Your comment had me in stitches 🤣🤣🇬🇧

If you need to drive from John O'Groats to Land's End regularly, quite right, don't buy an EV. At least not yet, until longer ranges and faster charging are available. But if you're an ordinary driver doing a few hundred miles a week, they're a no-brainer.

Complete BS!

Lololol, come on, get a grip, he uses headlines like this as click bate to get "likes" from the members of the "Single functioning Brain Cell Society". What kind of engineer are you that you would accept this tripe without thinking about it.

@@alexanderforson299 it's bait. Get that wrong in a different context and it's possibly the difference between pleasuring yourself and being a good fisherman....

@@alexanderforson299 a single functioning brain cell would be smarter than you!

The video deliberately singles out potential problems rather than the norm and tells only one side of the story. For example, it is possible to drive j'o'g to le in just over 15 hours in an EV. It's been done, observing the national speed limits, with a total of 100 minutes en route charging time. The majority of UK drivers never do journeys that long and, on average, would only need to charge their EV batteries once a week, which is hardly a hardship, especially as charging infrastructure is improving all the time. At the moment, there is roughly 1 public charger for every 20 EVs in the UK, plus another 400k home chargers. New multi rapid charger sites are opening up all the time on major routes. I have recommended apps to Lee that will plan his journey complete with charging stops and times, but he refuses to use them, claiming you "shouldn't need to plan your journey." It's his maverick attitude and determination to treat his EV like it was an ICEV that leads him into so much trouble. Deliberately or not? I'll let you decide..

@@FullFact548 "For example, it is possible to drive j'o'g to le in just over 15 hours in an EV. It's been done, observing the national speed limits, with a total of 100 minutes en route charging time." Let me guess, they did it at night when all the roads were empty. With a diesel ICE they would have spent 10 minutes filling up not 100. An hour and a half wasted! "The majority of UK drivers never do journeys that long..." They still travel hundreds of miles on holiday usually fully laden and aren't keen on wasting it waiting around for a charger to become free. "At the moment, there is roughly 1 public charger for every 20 EVs in the UK, plus another 400k home chargers. New multi rapid charger sites are opening up all the time on major routes." Which is still woefully inadequate for a switch to ev. The goverment are nearly 100,000 charging points short of their 2030 target. People who can't charge at home can forget it. "I have recommended apps to Lee that will plan his journey complete with charging stops and times, but he refuses to use them, claiming you "shouldn't need to plan your journey." You shouldn't. That'sthe freedom that the ICE has given us. What if you "plan your journey" and you get held up in traffic or have to take a detour due to an accident. Is the coverage so woeful you can't deviate from your route or you risk getting stranded? "It's his maverick attitude and determination to treat his EV like it was an ICEV that leads him into so much trouble." You mean you can't treat EVs as a thing of convenience and instead have to plan your every move or they become a complete liability. All you've managed to do is confirm that EVs are a complete pile of manure for anything other than pootling around town and doing the shopping. I congratulate you!

They're going to do to ICE cars what the digital camera did to 35 mm film. And for much the same reasons.

EVs were aready in museums. They have been round since the 1850's. So more of a failed experiment 19th Centrury.

Yeah, he screwed it up on purpose for clicks and giggles. The reality is way different.

😮how much did that cost, I’d need a mortgage.

Hateful things that sound like tractors, stink and set fire to car parks.

@@st200ol about £85. But 700 miles lasts me a month. And I have a big fast comfortable car that costs a lot less than an EV would.

I don't know what the charging network is like in the USA. If they lady says "no problem" she probably knows it's fine. In Norway and France in particular you just rock up where you like, get an ultra-rapid charge, and get on your way. Britain is lagging behind because the government isn't doing what it should, but even so it's not nearly as bad as Lee pretends it is.

She probably left out the parts where she had to wait around while charging. I’m on the east coast and I’ve driven by charging stations with people waiting in/by the cars. I’ll go to several stores for over an hour’s time. When I’m done some are still waiting there😳🙄 Must be nice to have all that free time🫤 Not for me,I’ve got things to do.

You are off your head Morag!!! LOL Don't listen to this nutter! LOL I'm screenshotting all Morag's replies to make a response video to show what nutters these EVangelists are.

Morag, I follow another KZfaq channel (Endless Adventure) they are an American couple who rented an electric travel van (during the pandemic a couple of years ago) and they had issues getting a charge. I believe they were in the Alps. Several times the charging stations were either broken or extremely slow. I think Lee’s experience is more common than most people realize.

Don't believe Lee's act. If you're driving distances you choose a car with a fast charge speed (his has that) and chargers that can deliver that speed (he chose chargers that couldn't - old ones waiting for an upgrade). Your car will probably take 20 minutes to charge, not 40. This after three hours driving. If you can't deal with a 20-minute rest after three hours of driving you probably shouldn't be on the road in the first place.

​@@moragkerr9577when the charger works....and when there isn't a queue for it. I'll stick with petrol mate. You're all mental

​@@moragkerr9577but by all means....make a video...show us all how easy it is with your 20 min stops every 3 hours....I'll be waiting to watch that

@@blahmcblahface3965 Every time I've gone on a long journey I've nearly always been able to drive straight on to a charger, and it has worked. Couple of times a ten-minute wait. This is normal. Those of us who actually do it can see the time-wasting tricks Lee pulls every single time.

@@blahmcblahface3965 Well, since my car has a shorter range than Lee's, and charges slower, then no you wouldn't. I'm not made of money like he is. I also don't have a KZfaq channel. But lots of people have made such videos. You could watch them.

And the mental cost of spending so much time in those horrible places. Spend my time avoiding them at all costs.

I disagree I can stop for petrol without buying a coffee and sandwich if I don't have to wait 40 minutes !@@user-bw8nw5xd5g

Also all that power needed to make the coffee and thank God for diesel powered lorries needed to deliver everything to keep the EV - NPC's filled up with food and hot drinks.

😂

First, that's only for days when you don't need the range. If you're going to drive a long way, of course you fill it to 100%. Indeed, the issue is simply that you don't leave the car *sitting for several days* at 100%. (And even if you do, relax, you haven't done much damage.) It's not hard to organise. Second, that doesn't apply to LFP batteries like I have. Get a car with an LFP battery and whack it up tp 100% and let it sit there any time you like. But it's always a good line for people who want to make it sound harder than it is.

Price of petrol or diesel, most people can only afford to fill to

@moragkerr9577 ! you want have to worrie about charging soon, as blackout are coming lol ,you want be able to charge EV are a joke lol

@@nigelsmith737 I don't think they're going to black out the sun, you know. But if nobody has any electricity, then driving one's car is likely to be the least of anyone's worries. Good luck getting fossil fuels in that event anyway. EVs are great cars to drive. Have you tried one? Have you listened to Lee when his mask slips enough to show how much he likes his car? His entire gripe is with the UK public rapid-charging network, not with the cars at all.

He's having an affair :)

If he has a Tesla, it's an affair. Any other make of EV, it charging!!

😂 an affair with cheap coffee and crisps

Are you really that stupid? Think about it? How many sane people race every day from Lands End to John O Groats or vice versa. His journey is not representative the daily distance travelled by any car. I would suggest that this year there has been only two nutters who have attempted this pointless exercise. The majority of cars travel less than 20 miles a day.

Ahhhhhh! "project" "failed" Only if the project was to provide clean, efficient, affordable transport to the masses. Let us just put the tin foil on me edd and suggest the "project" aim, is to trap us all in our neighbourhood! Project is a massive success!

@@MStanleyRoss😴💤

@@MStanleyRoss yup, the aim of the whole scheme. To stop private car ownership. Those that can't afford this lunacy will go without a car at all, while the rest can only travel around their own towns, and only if their environmental credit score allows.

You don't know anything, you think you do.

I can’t get over those Gridserve charging points with no info on what you’re gonna be charged for days. Imagine going to a petrol pump and the staff saying “just handover your credit card details and we’ll let you know what you’ve been charged in a few days….” Geee thanks, jolly decent of you lol… It’s like handing out blank cheques to people you don’t trust.

@@nsweeney3970 Exactly, and what happens when you only have a tenner in cash? No charge for you...

They haven't even installed the ones at the petrol station they revamped by me.

You may get a brilliant bonfire night.

Lee certainly plans! It takes real planning to find the absolute worst way to charge at every point on the route.

I suppose that does depend on how many miles you have driven your car in the last 10 years. Normal cars don’t produce any emissions unless they are driven.

They're paid and their advertiser's are legacy ICE manufacturers who are merely making compliance cars, based on ICE chassis and none of them make a profit on a single EV. If those journo's say bad words, they don't get the next press car to drive and that's the end of their income. Simple really!

No, it's not like that. Indeed, the passion here seems all to be on the anti-EV side. I might even go so far as to observe that it's frequently vitriolic, for no reason I can see. The cars are great to drive, very economical to run and maintain, and extremely convenient to charge under normal day-to-day circumstances. They have their weak points, such as towing caravans or horseboxes, but for regular family motoring they're great. Have you tried one? Even an ordinary EV has instant torque that will leave most things standing at the lights. The thing is, people get tired of Lee's constant performance art at the rapid chargers, because it's not the fault of the car if he keeps going to chargers that are busy, or broken, or slow. Listen to Lee when he actually talks about the car itself. He loves it. What he hates is the public rapid charger network, and he's not alone in that. The dishonesty is to behave as if that is the only way to charge your car, when obviously it's not, and indeed most EV drivers never use it, and as if it's the fault of the cars that the network is inadequate. In fact the network isn't as bad as he makes it out to be. He was quite obviously deliberately making unwise choices of which chargers to go for, so he could do his big hair-tearing act as often as possible. Nevertheless there is a real issue here, particularly at busy times. (I am not looking forward to 23rd December, when I will need to use it.) The solution is to do one's nut at the *government*, who are dragging their heels allocating the money they earmarked three years ago to upgrade the electricity supplies to the sites that needed it - not at the poor innocent cars. I bought my EV almost on an impulse in the spring, when a BMW driver (probably a diesel!) ran into the side of my GTi and wrote it off. I knew virtually nothing about the things, and my main reason was that I live nine miles from the nearest petrol station, but have a good electricity supply in my garage. It has worked out better than I could have imagined. No more finding a petrol station on cold winter nights. Every morning, my car has a full "tank". It drives like a dream, so much so that I don't really miss the GTi as I thought I would. And on the couple of occasions I've done long road trips I've had no trouble getting right on to rapid chargers whenever I needed them. So no, I haven't fucked up at all. I'm very happy. I acknowledge that not everyone would find it so easy to run an EV at the moment (people in flats or terrace houses), but that doesn't mean the cars themselves are bad, or that people who are ideally suited to running an EV shouldn't be doing it or have made some sort of mistake. I'm seeing more and more EVs in the village here, presumably more people fed up with the lack of nearby petrol stations. Everybody looks pretty pleased with their purchases.

Save your sympathy. It's all a contrived act for clicks and likes. He could have done that journey with sensible, planned breaks and no stress, but that wasn't the agenda. It's as real as WWF wrestling. Look for the other videos of EV drivers doing the route - it's not a problem unless you make it into one.

Thank You.

Good move!

Long run being anything over 100 miles.

Same here, I am 79, and have a hybrid, which is great!!

@@hornslane I was talking EV not Hybrid

Jaguar are losing money on the I-Pace.

Peugeot keeps advertising the 2008 EV and asking the question who do you trust. Well I don't trust the car magazines, Fully Charred or Electric Viking and the EVangelist cult.

@@kjelle5350Yes dead right. People who buy one are losing a lot of money too! New cost £72k. After one year and 6000 miles on forecourt for £48k. So what did that poor dupe get for the trade in price? £40k if they were lucky? So that’s £32k in a year. I traded in my 6000 mile F Pace after a year (I needed a 550 hp V8 you see) for £51 k a loss of £8k from the new price. At the time of writing my local Jag dealer has 50 cars for sale 14 of them iPace. No one wants used EVs even though they are cheaper than the petrol equivalent . Strange but seems to be true!

@@bentullett6068. Dead right. Would you buy a full EV made with French electrics??? Talk about bonfire night!

Clearly obvious that any of this has not been thought through. The powers that be are just pandering to the Attenborough brigade. Get with the Bellamy brigade and live properly.

Actually the UK grid needs major upgrades over the next 2 decades anyway. The gas is running out, the government's "genius" idea of replacing it with hydrogen is finally being understood to be nonsense, and that leaves everyone moving to electricity for heating and cooking. I can comment that for Norway where i live the rollout of EVs has been accompanied by considerable infrastructure investment, both of the grid and the charger network. They didn't make a big song and dance about the grid upgrades, they just knuckled down and did it. The charging network expansion was done by the private sector with public incentives (especially in more out of the way locations).

@@15bit62 absolutely. But compare Norway to the UK - 5 million or so vehicles versus 33 million. And how many of these vehicles in Norway are buses, lorries etc. that still run on diesel? And of course Norway is the "poster child" of the EV revolution. Which is mostly based on hydroelectric power generation. Norway is a vast mountainous country with a small population - mostly concentrated in a few major population centres. The UK is vastly different - Scotland alone is the only part of the UK that is even similar to Norway - but it still doesn't have the geography to utilise hydroelectric energy on the scale that Norway can.

​@@pmkeith This is true, but also consider that a diluted population results in quite significant challenges also: Installing fast chargers in the middle of nowhere (which we have a lot of) requires significant grid-level work. Probably more than installing them in more population-dense regions where power lines already exist. I would agree that the whole Norway "Poster-Child" thing is sometimes overdone: We are a wealthy country with a different social outlook to places like the UK. But we do prove that electrification of the transport sector is totally possible, even though it might be expensive and take time and leadership to achieve. Long distance trucks in Norway are still diesel. But then they are mostly not Norwegian either - a lot of the long distance trucking here is done by eastern european companies. Local delivery lorries (7.5T class) are increasingly EV though, and some areas have had hydrogen pilot projects doing this for several years. For buses there has been a "green push" for many years, so city buses have been LPG for >10 years now, and they are beginning to add EVs to the fleet in the larger cities. Long distance coaches are still diesel.

@@15bit62 Yep, sounds idyllic. But Norway is not going to let us all come and live there - not that I could afford it.

Congratulations on achievement 👏

"Wonder what it'll do when it gets cold" with the heater on - 60 miles? but maybe 45 because you’re playing safe

They are designed to keep us locked into Technocratic zones that limit our travel to where,when and with who.

Not for the consumer. Only the energy companies.

100% accurate, no benefits whatsoever!

​@@andyb6120Could also say similar for those companies buying EVs for tax purposes who can tell their customers how responsible they are in saving the environment.

I think that that was the point of this agenda being pushed....get people out of private cars.

Most people just call break down then trek aimlessly in hope of finding fuel

I do love inhaling Castro R on race day,but not on the streets.

Me TOO! I Love the Smell of Castrol!@@stuartmitchell8736

Did you really own a Tesla? They are the easiest car in the world to live with and or Model Y is the best car I've ever owned for long journeys. If you got stressed with a Tesla you must get stressed getting out of bed in the morning.

Yes, 2020 model 3, waited 11 months for the privilege of owning it, kept it for 8, charging it wasn’t as stress free as filling a car with petrol. Oh BTW, do you really own a Tesla? Happy motoring.

Where did you charge when at home or work?

It's obviously getting better. Lots and lots of ultra-rapid chargers going in all over the place. I keep turning up to motorway service stations and exclaiming, where did these come from? It might be a long time before Killington Lake is a place to stop at though - and I think Lee knew that. And if you think a rest break every three hours driving is a bad idea, maybe you shouldn't be on the road.

Hey Morag. thanks for the NUTTY response again! Jeez you must be the head EVangelist. I bet your wife packs your sandwiches and cuts the crust off!

You actually think "the masses" drive more than 100 miles every day? What colour is the sky on your planet? And actually there are EVs with practical range over 300 miles, so depending on your requirements you can do a lot more than 100 miles a day. If you drive less than (say) 200 miles a day, if you can charge at home, if you don't tow a caravan or a horsebox, and you don't have a frequent requirement to travel cross country under time pressure, EV heaven has already arrived. I think that's most people actually, possibly apart from the "charge at home" part, and even there you might be surprised at what's possible.

This comment,👍💯

Thank you

Yes, now consider that there's about 50kWh in a dense gallon of diesel and 2/3rd of that is just gifted away as heat, doing nothing to move the vehicle. Puts energy into perspective.

Now compare that to a full tank of fuel which has over 600kw of energy. 450kw of that gets wasted straight into the atmosphere

Plus it's the amount of money which was spent on that journey. Our diesel car does 800 miles on a single tank, how is that uneconomic for a vehicle using very little fuel?

Wow mate! The longest I did on a reasonably frequent basis was Berwick upon Tweed to Bristol and then back to Swindon. Just short of four hundred miles, but the first lump 358 miles, I would do non stop.

Hi my Lexus NX 350 h would see it off😎🏁

Now that would be an interesting video 🤔

True. EV actually produces more total pollution. With the cost and loss of efficiency by the delivery of energy from power production to point of delivery accounted for.