Top 10 Most Broken Blue Cards in MTG

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Blue is infamous amongst all of the colors of Magic for having a very complex history in terms of balance. The color was initially very overtuned, to the point that the earliest years of the game were almost entirely dominated by Blue cards and decks. While this has since been corrected, in eternal formats, Blue still has access to some of the strongest cards the game has ever seen. Today, we’re going to go over not only some of Blue’s best cards, but some of the most broken pieces of cardboard Wizards has ever released.
Script by Pumkinswift
Editing by SL
├ The List
Intro: (0:00)
10: Timetwister: (0:27)
9: Force of Will: (2:00)
8: Daze: (4:00)
7: Mystical Tutor: (5:45)
6: Mental Misstep: (7:20)
5: Brainstorm: (9:12)
4: Gush: (10:28)
3: Tinker: (11:58)
2: Time Walk: (13:33)
1: Ancestral Recall: (15:15)
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(Just a note, we have people who actually know the game very well making the scripts for this channel. As the owner of the channel (Theduellogs/hirumaredx) is a total newbie to the game.)

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@jameshonaker585 8 ай бұрын

Concerning Ancestral Recall back in Alpha, it was the only member of the "boon cycle" that was printed at rare (the other four were at common); they knew it was powerful, so they wanted to keep its prevalence lower, but they also never envisioned Magic becoming what it became and so having those rare, high-impact cards was something they were fine with.

@BeaglzRok1 8 ай бұрын

I sometimes wonder what a reimagined boon cycle would be like. Black could get something like "target creature gets -0/-3 and you gain 3 life," Blue could get "Scry 3," and White could get "tap three nonland permanents," Green could have "Put 3 +1/+1 counters on target creature," and Red could have... Dark Ritual but R -> RRR.

@sontaranmc2109 8 ай бұрын

⁠@@BeaglzRok1R would still be way too strong, and green giving counters would make it busted.

@The_Abhy 8 ай бұрын

@BeaglzRok1 I love idea of scry 3 or tap 3 target permanets, +3/+3 is amazing idea too, but it must be in sorcery speed or it would be busted. Black feels underwhelming and Red is busted. Red should have like exile 3 cards and cast 1 of them.

@enlongjones2394 8 ай бұрын

And on the other side of things, that same cycle had Healing Salve. One of the worst cards ever printed, as I understand it. 3 life is nowhere near the same power level as 3 power, 3 damage, 3 mana, or 3 cards.

@asmith587 6 ай бұрын

Dark ritual would have been cool with giving 3B for 1B and 3 life.

@UnuUO 8 ай бұрын

I feel like FoW should’ve been in the top 5 at least. It literally holds formats together, and the only reason it isn’t banned is BECAUSE it holds formats together.

@Xepscern 8 ай бұрын

To sorta counter that, Force of Will is actually kinda worse in more "fair" Magic with much less card draw and less one turn combos. 5 mana counter that could be cast for free but only if you two-for-one yourself would be strong but also force you to be very much in Blue, something you can only get away with in Legacy The reason Force of Will dominates in Legacy is the context, both in the presence of that one turn combos that need FoW to hold the format together, and the far higher quality of Blue cards, especially Blue draw spells. Force is strong, but the context of Legacy is where is really shines. Plus there's just so many utterly busted Blue cards that even FoW has competition.

@ecpracticesquad4674 8 ай бұрын

@@Xepscern5 mana pitch spells are currently one of the biggest complaints in modern. Yes, Fury and Solitude come with bodies in the right situation, but they still see play in all formats they are legal in because of their evoke. And unless you’re specifically trying to go full pitch in a 5c list, the balance of cards needed to pitch to FoW consistently isn’t that hard to find, even without all of Legacy’s cantrips.

@roguebanshee 8 ай бұрын

Without FoW both Legacy and Vintage would have a much higher concentration of all-in Turn 1 combos. It prevents both formats from being _too_ broken simply by existing, even if it's hard to get a full playset you always have to consider the existence of the card, making all-in plays a lot less attractive (even if they're still possible). Especially in comparison to Daze. While Daze changes how Legacy and Vintage can play out, FoW allows the formats to _exist_ in the first place.

@UnuUO 8 ай бұрын

@@Xepscern there’s a reason they haven’t printed FoW into Modern. An all-purpose counterspell that only requires you to pitch a card is still incredibly broken, even if you’re losing card advantage. The ability to stop your opponent’s most impactful plays while not having to hold up mana can’t be understated. It is absurdly powerful

@dstreetz91 8 ай бұрын

Force really isn't broken if you aren't stopping combo's that give someone an instant win. Yes, it's zero mana to counter while pitching a card. If that was in standard it really wouldn't be amazing unless the environment had cards so powerful that resolving them meant you won on the spot and those cards had no other good answers. In legacy and vintage it's worthwhile because if you sit down for game 1 an opponent could be charbelchering you for 50 damage on turn 1 if you don't have force of will or using a lethal spellchain for tendrils of agony. If it didn't exist legacy and vintage still exist, however, the banlists for both formats would be far larger. Lion's eye diamond would easily be banned in legacy for example. They didn't print FoW into modern because they made an alternative version to stop combo decks. Force of negation is basically the same as force of will for stopping combo unless the combo consists of only creatures, but purely creature based combo doesn't really exist in competitive formats like modern.

@radlee13 8 ай бұрын

Yeah Ancestral Recall's pretty good but it's no pay 1 white for 3 whole life

@asmith587 6 ай бұрын

Hey, also the option to prevent 3 damage to a creature. Think you can bolt my white knight? Fuck outta here with that.

@Xineombine 8 ай бұрын

For Gush, you could it's bounce effect on Mystic Sanctuary, a non-basic Island that enters tapped unless you control 3 other islands, but if it enters untapped, you return an instant or sorcery from your graveyard to the top of your deck. This would allow you to infinitely recur gush so long as you never dip below 3 islands on board, and if you bounced other sanctuaries, well, you get the Idea...

@reyntime8735 8 ай бұрын

This is most effective if you have additional land drops. Add a Vedalken Orrery or splash into green to make the best of it

@EastCoastMikeP 8 ай бұрын

I personally consider Ancestral Recall to be the best card ever printed for one reason: There is never a time in the game where it isn't useful. Drawing three cards for one mana is obscenely powerful, and it's one of those spells where as soon as you draw it, you play it because the value you get is impossible for any other card to replicate. And before anyone says, "It wouldn't be useful if casting it will deck you out", be honest: How often will that happen? So infrequently that it might as well be an instance where it'll never happen.

@fluffyninja3467 8 ай бұрын

Sounds like somebody's never played against a mill deck. Or a burn mill deck

@EastCoastMikeP 8 ай бұрын

@@fluffyninja3467 Any mill deck that would make Ancestral Recall useless is one that'd mill you out in one turn anyway. My point still stands.

@alexherrington9142 8 ай бұрын

"There is never a time in the game where it isn't useful" That is mostly true, but the are times, and even games that you don't want to cast Recall. "Delta, Lotus, go" is a HUGE red flag. That's Hullbreacher mana showing Fluster/Pierce backup and fighting over would lose you the game.

@celtifox8274 8 ай бұрын

Sheoldred+bowmasters would disagree

@dstreetz91 8 ай бұрын

Oh people have decked people out by targeting opponents with ancestral in vintage particularly oath of druid decks. Besides that there are bad times to draw ancestral in vintage. If you have no other blue cards it is now a target for pyroblast. Always a nice mental misstep target too. It also quickly becomes worse the more tax effects are on the field like sphere of resistance, thorn of amethyst, and trinisphere. 2 mana to draw 3 is still good, but once you get to 3 mana to draw 3 that is remarkably fair in vintage. No one is in a rush to merchant scroll for ancestral recall.

@metalthrashingnerdpodcast9864 8 ай бұрын

One of the best upsides of time walk is also that it doesn't exile itself. Most extra turn cards exile themselves. This can lead to recurring or copying the spell from the graveyard.

@memnarch129 Ай бұрын

Or more specifically pairing it with another card on the list, Time Twister. Twister Walk has been a pairing for a LONG while to get lots of extra turns.

@Darkorinth1 8 ай бұрын

It says something that I knew 1 and 2 before clicking the video. It also says something that all of them are instants or sorceries,

@catcryt1765 8 ай бұрын

yay, new video! i love your top 10 stuff, dude!

@Metallicity 8 ай бұрын

This channel will never recover from that time Yugioh twitter discovered the Gush book some guy wrote back in 2010 for a format that basically doesn't exist anymore. Gush is a strong card. It should not be unbanned in Legacy, and unrestricting in Vintage is also somewhat questionable. But there are a *lot* of restricted blue cards in Vintage, plus plenty of unrestricted blue cards that see way more play than Gush (Mindbreak Trap, Flusterstorm, and most recently Lorien Revealed, are all top 20 Vintage spells that get zero mention here, while Gush doesn't break the top 50). It's hard to argue that Gush is one of the strongest draw spells in the game when basically every Vintage deck will choose to run Ancestral/Dig Through Time/Treasure Cruise/Narset/various tutors and cantrips instead, leaving Gush as just a glorified 2nd copy of Gitaxian Probe/5th copy of Street Wraith in Doomsday alone (except those other cards can actually win the game for Doomsday on turn 1).

@dstreetz91 8 ай бұрын

Here's the deal with gush. It has been restricted, unrestricted, restricted, and unrestricted multiple times because of how stupid the card is. As a 1 of it is held back because you can't build around 1 of cards usually unless they are just that powerful like yawg's will or something. As a 4 of it fundamentally changes vintage and how people build decks. People run dig through time and such over it because you don't really have to build around them just use fetchlands and stuff and it's castable, which is enough. In some deck not designed to abuse gush it's mediocre in comparison. In a deck that is trying to abuse gush though it is pretty dumb what zero mana draw 2 can do.

@brandont9119 8 ай бұрын

This is a great list. My only quibble is a card like Mystical Tutor prob shouldn't make the list, even for nostalgia reasons. This could make room for a card like Treasure Cruise/Dig Through Time, that was broken in all formats (well it was just okay in Standard but absurd in Modern and still broken on the B&R List, or something like Counterbalance that was broken in Modern/Legacy

@dstreetz91 8 ай бұрын

Mystical tutor is that powerful though. It tutors for almost anything in combo decks besides lion's eye diamond/black lotus for a single mana and that is often all a combo deck requires to go off. The versatility can't be understated either because it can be engine cards, protection cards, or fast mana.

@angst_ 8 ай бұрын

I noticed a lot of these cards are banned or not legal in certain formats. I'd love to see versions of this video like: "top ten blue cards LEGAL in legacy/modern etc." which take into account bans and legality. It seems like it would be a completely different list at this point!

@user-bj2iw3gt3u 8 ай бұрын

TBH, I'd argue Counterspell (yes, the UU one) should've gotten a mention here, even as a simple honorable mention. If you consider it as removal, look at what it's up against from other colors: Black can kill a creature for the same price, but those cards usually have a downside (for instance, Doom Blade (1B) only hits non-black creatures), or for less with a significant drawback (You Are Already Dead (B) requires the creature to already be damaged). White can exile a creature for less, but its controller gains something in return (Path to Exile, it's literally free ramp. I've won because opponents have path'd me before). Green can remove specifically an artifact or enchantment at that price (Naturalize, (1G)). For that same price, Blue can remove... *Literally any card type with no downside to speak of*. That's insane. Before anyone says "but muh timing restrictions", you want to interact at instant speed anyway, never at sorcery speed if you can avoid it, so Counterspell is literally just removal that also reads "this card's ETB effects are cancelled. because FUCK YOU.".

@simanolastname2399 8 ай бұрын

Counterspell isn't even the best UU counterspell. Mana Drain is

@martinrosschou 8 ай бұрын

@@simanolastname2399 by a lot

@bobjones4469 8 ай бұрын

But what does Ancestral Recall do?

@noahjwhitney3040 8 ай бұрын

I always forget how many absurdly busted cards there are in Magic. Honorable mentions to: - Ponder - Gitaxian Probe - Intuition - Thassa's Oracle - Hullbreacher and probably more I'm forgetting

@cerealamog 8 ай бұрын

blue has the best philosophy...they bought 60(100) cards. We better be allowed to use all of them. but only us...not the other players...ill force of will their life

@Pathfinderyx 7 ай бұрын

What

@aws08barbatos 8 ай бұрын

So I think chain of vapor is a seriously underrated counter spell with fun interaction

@memnarch129 Ай бұрын

Specifically Brainstorm was Wizards trying to print a FIXED Ancestral Recall. People wanted Recall but due to the Reserve list and it being just TOO powerful they knew they couldnt, hence Brainstorm that was STILL insanely good to see play in every format. Concentrate is probably the closest they get to a actually fixed/balanced Recall, and it sucks cause Recall and Brainstorm exist.

@marcoottina654 8 ай бұрын

Idea for next video: more effects or mechanics in white that could be enhanced or developed. Like: -) finding auras and equips -) lifegain payoff: "gain X -> put X charge counters ; remove 5 counters: draw" ; "power up creatures upon gaining life" ; "fetch plains" ; "resurrect creatures" ; "add W to the mana pool" ; "untap creatures " -) resurrect creatures, especially upon gaining lots of life in batch or tandem -) tap clerics to gain life, distribute +1/+1 counters or fetching plains

@williamdrum9899 8 ай бұрын

Honestly I think White should get the ability to make mana rocks. Here's a card idea. Mox Oyster 1W Creature - Oyster Defender When Mox Oyster dies, create a token copy of Mox Pearl. (It's an artifact with "Tap: Add W")

@marcoottina654 8 ай бұрын

@@williamdrum9899 nice :D a "TAPped Pearl token" would be better imho also, White could take advantage of the "prayer" side by making "mana enchantments", i.e. spirits with "TAP: add W"

@7Alberto7 8 ай бұрын

Amazing 😍🤩🤩🤩🤩

@derHexenhammer 8 ай бұрын

When tinker was first printed, I used it to get colossus of sardia. I used voltaic key to untap it. Lol

@baconsir1159 8 ай бұрын

Definitely feels like FoW is too low

@poiri 8 ай бұрын

The only 2 cards above it that aren’t banned in vintage are Daze and Brainstorm, so I could see arguments for being higher than those, but not the rest. While Daze is more narrow in its use its effect is better for the cost (though the two being at no.9 and no.8 are essentially interchangeable). Brainstorm too is far more proactive while having great defensive utility. Overall while FoW is incredibly important, it’s just not as strong as the rest of the list above it.

@dstreetz91 8 ай бұрын

@@poiriI would put it above daze instantly. Daze is weaker than gitaxian probe too I don't get why probe isn't here and crappy daze is. Brainstorm beats daze and force of will no contest, fixed ancestral recall is still the best card in legacy to this day and that will never change because it's obviously not getting banned though by all metrics should be banned in legacy for dominating the field.

@The_Abhy 8 ай бұрын

Pauper Ban list explained 👌

@juliettemoss5048 8 ай бұрын

Initially!

@T4N7 8 ай бұрын

Ancestral Recall has even more upsides that no one ever mentions. Sure, u say it take 5 mana for the same effect or 4 at sorcery speed but Jace’s Ingenuity n Concentrate lack something Ancestral Recall has that can be an upside or even a downside; it is “target player” so in a multiplayer format u can u it for an ally or another player that u need to help u beat the main threat. Or u can use it to finish off someone with mill if they get too low on cards like some anti Doomsday tech or something. But u also can’t use Ancestral Recall if u have an effect that is giving u shroud… but I can only think of 1 creature off the top of my head that does that n I can think of a few things that give hexproof so just use those n boom, no downsides

@johncouzens5321 8 ай бұрын

Look up misdirect

@LordQuintix 8 ай бұрын

There are 2 cards I know that are pretty broken, but not THAT level of crazy, lol. 1: Mind's Desire - in the right deck configuration, this card can put your strongest cards into play. Performing such a combo with Storm is unquestionably difficult, but the reward usually outweighs the costs it takes to kick it off. 2: Gitaxian Probe - "There is no Knowledge that is not Power." This card is the epitome of this saying. The first step-cousin of Thoughtsieze and Mental Missteps' twin-brother, both were born ready to break the game, this one allows you to know what is going to happen ahead of time and puts you ahead by letting you draw a card, paying for itself each time you use it! What could possibly go wrong!? Fun Combo: Mana Severance + Mind's Desire Set-up: after you achieve a high Storm County, play Mana Severance and remove all the land cards from your deck, seeing as well what you have to play. Then, play Mind's Desire to bring out everything your deck has!

@satansamael666 8 ай бұрын

Probe is easily the most busted card arguably more than Recall. Free vs 1 mana is huge and the information gained is just unnecessary gravy they added just because. Desire is kinda ok considering just how much mana it costs, a 6 cost should just win the game. The cards I’m surprised not being on the list is Thoracle. Like the cheapest win con that is easy to set up and no preconditions needed to worry about is just awesome. Like it’s so good it warps a lot of formats, especially very powerful formats where curves are already low and mana is easy to rush out.

@dstreetz91 8 ай бұрын

@@satansamael666I can get thassa's oracle not being here because it's the payoff, not the enabler. The enabler usually being doomsday, but it depends on format. Probe though I would slam on this list over daze. It isn't even close daze has never been banned anywhere or considered to be banned, but probe got banned everywhere and restricted in vintage. The weirdest thing is how long it took because I remember playing the card and it felt like cheating. Just oh see you have nothing you're dead. Oh see you have some countermagic? Well now I know to play around it. All for 2 life. Mind's desire certainly not top 10 though as much as I love the card the UU in the cost holds it back. At 5U I could definitely see it though because then it's castable off something like a single lotus petal or land.

@williamdrum9899 8 ай бұрын

Probe is essentially reducing your deck size before the game starts. It literally has infinite value since it draws a card

@kennethbatchler737 8 ай бұрын

Agree with the cards in this list but not the order.

@stephenbyers6173 Ай бұрын

My favourite blue card is "Omniscience", i always run it in my izzet card draw even though its not really worth it lol

@Master00Ra 8 ай бұрын

2:37 That's a weird version of "Channel" I've seen...

@macadoo1588 2 ай бұрын

You know it's gonna be a rough list when Timetwister is #10

@Atmapalazzo 8 ай бұрын

I think it's important to note that Timetwister is by far the weakest member of the power 9

@bertilandersson6606 6 ай бұрын

Play against a deck running 4 black lotuses and 4 time twister. They restricted it because it made the game ridiculous

@theemathas 8 ай бұрын

Dig Through Time and Treasure Cruise are notably absent from the list.

@travisbrown9936 8 ай бұрын

Well multiple cards not banned in legacy also beat one of the power nine

@jaystapes3086 Ай бұрын

Soooo Ancestral Recall is MTG's Pot of Greed. Got it.

@podgemac459 8 ай бұрын

Meanwhile Oracle of the Alpha makes all mox gems, black lotus, time walk and ancestral recall useable in the formats you can play Oracle in. The amount of Alchemy format games I get where if I don't immediately counter Oracle, I just lose. Do they even care for balance. There was a reason these were busyed asf.

@fortnitekiddy3086 3 ай бұрын

I think Show and Tell should be in this list

@Psyman2 8 ай бұрын

Gush is a fascinating card in that someone wrote a 350-page book about strategies and ideas around it. Imagine having that level of dedication for anything.

@androthsatyr 8 ай бұрын

Holy fucking shit, by any chance do you know what it's called or where the book can be found? This is hilarious, I'd love to give that a read sometime!

@SomeGuy712x 8 ай бұрын

(11:11) Umm... Wasteland can't destroy Islands. It can only hit nonbasic lands. Did you mean something like Strip Mine there?

@theemathas 8 ай бұрын

Wasteland can destroy dual lands that are islands.

@SomeGuy712x 8 ай бұрын

@@theemathas That is true, but TheDuelLogs just said Islands there, which implies the basic land version.

@martinrosschou 8 ай бұрын

Daze > Force of Will and Mana Drain?

@GreatgoatonFire 8 ай бұрын

Time to make Ancestral Pot, the most busted card draw in TCG history.

@scheikundeiscool4086 8 ай бұрын

It's still kind of crazy the the most powerfull card in the game comes from the first set.

@doctorwhouse3881 8 ай бұрын

Pot of Greed also is in the first TCG set.

@dstreetz91 8 ай бұрын

Not really strange though. When a game is first created the creators will not identify every broken card just like how WotC didn't realize skullclamp would be broken 10 years later when they made it +1/-1 and it got sent to the printers. Or Oko, thief of crowns no one knew it would be that stupid good then lo and behold it's the best planeswalker ever made.

@UnuUO 8 ай бұрын

@@dstreetz91 Oko happened in like 2019, and Eldraine in general was an incredibly unbalanced set for Standard. No idea what the playtesters were on for that set

@astraltophat_at 8 ай бұрын

how about cards that break the color wheel

@polsenOO7 Ай бұрын

Dude throws a lot shade at Daze.

@j.walker6845 7 ай бұрын

I was expecting Jin-Gataxis, Core Augur, Enter the Infinite, Mind's Desire, Omniscience... things like that. Not these value engines.

@Shoyro 8 ай бұрын

Here's something scary: Blue is not seen as the strongest color of Commander. People will dismiss this, but Green has overtaken its place, as it got so much going for it besides Ramp. Stax? Collector Ouphe. Draw? Regal Force. Artifact Destruction? Naturalize. Treasure? Bootleggers' Stash Name a deck strategy, and there's likely a card in Green. Blue really hasn't gotten much new support that doesn't rely on another color. Practically bread crumbs compared to the other colors. Red and White got support to cover their weaknesses in Impulse Draw and cards like Esper Sentinel and Smothering Tithe. Is there ramp available that's for Mono Blue that isn't an artifact that's generic or relies on Artifacts? Edit: forgot to add, besides counterspells, is there ANY gimmick in Blue that isn't covered in a different color? I know White has a few counters, but it's few in comparison to Blue

@fatch3353 8 ай бұрын

blue is not "seen: as the strongest color in commander but without fail it remains the actual strongest color lmao. ramp is significantly worse than simply hitting land drops which blue is great at. it is the only color which can interact with every single type of card even if it has an ETB. it is still the best at drawing cards no matter what mtggoldfish tells you also your examples are just the most garbage shit almost none of the cards you mentioned are actually impactful besides collector ouphe in highly competitive tables. frankly green is the most overrated color by quite a lot in commander all of their card draw and game finishers are realllllly overcosted. tbh blue players are just angry that their color isnt undisputed #1 anymore and its pretty funny

@Shoyro 8 ай бұрын

@@fatch3353 I have noticed at my LGS that Golgari Stax has really been an issue. I'm full on casual, and don't bother with cedh. It's a different case for casual vs competitive. Golos is a good example. It's seen as not worth it in cedh, but for casual, he almost made Commander a Golos Only format, regardless of the synergy and deck strategy. You'd think of just WUBRG Goodstuff, but he appeared in even mono colored decks like Elfball in casual. 5 generic and fetch any land, even if it's not spammed. Glad he got banned

@damo9961 8 ай бұрын

No, in cedh blue is def seen as strongest, and any player playing casual who has been playing 5 plus years agree blue is strongest

@Shoyro 8 ай бұрын

@damo9961 I play all colors that aren't 4 colors, and my LGS doesn't really play Blue, but mostly Green in various combos with it like Golgari or Selesnya. Otherwise, they do Mardu. It's because it's that Blue is not fun, but I feel oppressed way more by Gruul or Golgari than any color with blue.

@UnuUO 8 ай бұрын

it is absolutely the strongest color in CEDH, you get access to the easiest win in Thoracle combos alongside a multitude of other cards. Green is arguably the worst color in CEDH because most of its wincons either aren’t fast enough or aren’t good enough, and it hasn’t gotten the same amount of insane pushed cards that other colors have gotten in recent years. Ramp is also less of a factor when games generally last fewer turns.

@eclipse1201 7 ай бұрын

No flash is crazy 😂

@overtonwindowshopper 29 күн бұрын

Force should be much higher

@unclerobbieslug 8 ай бұрын

Storm crow?!?

@TheKyleBrah 8 ай бұрын

Ancestral Recall? But what does it even do??

@TheSmartestManonEarth 8 ай бұрын

Counterspell is better than force of will. And im gonna prove it

@fwmlp 8 ай бұрын

Jace the Mindsculptor, the main card responsible for me giving up Magic in 2011 and coming back only this year thanks to LOTR, not even been mentioned shows how broken Wizards always make blue cards.

@joebaumgart1146 8 ай бұрын

Jace sucks now. Legacy and Vintage never even bother playing him. He's way too slow and a simple bolt will take care of him.

@fwmlp 8 ай бұрын

@@joebaumgart1146 Jace might suck now, pretty much like every other card released 10+ years ago that was a staple on decks, but the fact that it has a built in Brainstorm and can lock your game alone is very powerful, not considering that blue decks have all sorts of counterspells for bolts

@brokenmousegamingreactions956 8 ай бұрын

First!

@Goten40373 8 ай бұрын

every blue card is the most broken blue card.

@solomongrundey 8 ай бұрын

Misstep should not be banned, how they ban misstep but thoughtsiese and Ragavon are around

@williamdrum9899 8 ай бұрын

Misstep being able to counter Misstep is why it's banned. The game devolves into who drew more copies of it

@solomongrundey 8 ай бұрын

@@williamdrum9899 that's nonsense, I rather be able to say hey I tried to counter a turn 1 F U spell like rag, or thought seize then not be able to at all and completely get wrecked.

@dstreetz91 8 ай бұрын

Thoughtseize is far, far worse than misstep. Zero mana counterspell in formats that revolve around 1 mana spells for the most part is stupid broken. Paying 1 mana to make someone discard something that they invest no mana in is far, far worse in terms of powerlevel.

@williamdrum9899 8 ай бұрын

People complain about Ragavan so much, yet I seem to remember 'dies to Bolt' being the litmus test for creatures' viability...

@Hmongboi228 8 ай бұрын

Show and Tell? 🤔

@thomasbuchovecky171 3 ай бұрын

Timetwister is so overrated it's crazy. It's not even used in Vintage anymore

@ReederMG 8 ай бұрын

Top 10 Elves

@casualcrusader1547 8 ай бұрын

you couldve probably just listed off every blue card ever made and it would probably be fairly accurate /s

@xIKeepaIx 8 ай бұрын

The most broken blue card is of course Island, they should ban it already.

@4137Swords 8 ай бұрын

How is Time Twister, one of the Power 9, so low on here?

@fernandobanda5734 8 ай бұрын

Timetwister is notoriously not as broken as the rest of the power 9, to the point a lot of people think it shouldn't be part of it.

@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 8 ай бұрын

Because it's one of the most obvious inclusions, it's been in the game for decades, and it's been banned everywhere for ages. It's just not interesting.

@xXSamir44Xx 8 ай бұрын

@@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 It's also just worse than the other cards on the list.

@neroneroren6788 8 ай бұрын

Only 10?

@liampierce8607 8 ай бұрын

Ok I’m a tournament focused CEDH player but I haven’t played any other formats competitively. This list is WILD to me. Daze wouldn’t even be close to making the list.

@julioazevedo8488 8 ай бұрын

Daze is extremely busted. You have no clue how powerful it is until you begin to see legacy gameplays

@Jacob-km4yb 8 ай бұрын

Daze is good in cEDH too imo I like it in yuriko and other low to the ground decks

@chaosky9 8 ай бұрын

Daze is possibly the best counterspell in legacy and would be too in vintage if moxens didn’t exist. Basically daze is broken in formats that don’t play tons of fast mana

@liampierce8607 8 ай бұрын

@@chaosky9 see this is what I’m talking about. I haven’t ever played legacy. But cedh is a really powerful format. The force spike effect just really isn’t impactful enough even if u get it for free

@liampierce8607 8 ай бұрын

@@chaosky9 also because we can’t run multiple fetches, shocks, and duels getting the island is two unreliable

@DaniDoyle 5 ай бұрын

Hey, long time legacy and vintage player here, and I think you really fail to understand FoW. Despite seeing tons of play in decks that can afford to run it, it's really not a "good" card so much as a nessicary evil. Forces purpose is stoping turn 1 or 2 combos from winning the game (or helping them win the game), but that's about it. Against non-combo/"fair" decks, they are a near automatic board out. 2 for 1ing yourself is almost always a bad play, as card advantage is increasingly valuable in okder formats, due to the higher strength of individual cards. Using force to stop a removal spell is a noobie trap, unless you are truly desperate (at which point you've likely lost the game anyway).

@SirBenthr 8 ай бұрын

Blue doesn't like when their opponent does... anything. So stop doing things while they pay no mana.

@jaggedsigns3O11 8 ай бұрын

ah new ManaLogs video, wonder which card will be intentionally mispronounced this time.

@assault410 8 ай бұрын

FoW is way better than daze

@joebaumgart1146 8 ай бұрын

#UnbanAncestralRecall But don't unreserve it. You play it only if you can pay it!

@escapees 8 ай бұрын

Yikes, makes magic even MORE pay 2 win

@doctorwhouse3881 8 ай бұрын

The reserve list is stupid.

@names_are.uselessyt7908 8 ай бұрын

ffs, your lists get worse every time. you took the easy way & reguritated the "power nine" as most broken. that's what day 1 noobs trying to sound like the know m:tg would do. FoW should be higher, timetwister shouldn't be on the list. Show & Tell, Dream Halls, & Time Spiral all deserve spots over this list. mental misstep is the king of being sideboarded out bc your opponent outsmarted you. it's like you looked at 1-2 decklists and just picked their free spells.