FIXING THE HARLEY BENTON JA20 HH & VICTORY V SBK SERIES GUITARS

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This is how you fix the nasty grounding issue on Harley Benton's new SBK series guitars! Easy fix but unacceptable from the brand!!
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0:00 - Intro
1:04 - Testing the guitars
4:08 - Comparing other guitars
5:25 - JA20 HH Stating the Problem / Fix
5:58 - Taking the bridge off
6:12 - Close up on the bridge and the fix
6:45 - Understanding Basic Electricity & Circuits
7:57 - HOW TO FIX THE JA
8:18 - DON'T DO THIS
8:50 - Final thoughts on fixing the JA
9:23 - Testing the JA
10:22 - Victory V Overview & First Thoughts
11:32 - Close up on the tailpiece screw & insert
13:07 - Victory V Test 1
13:44 - Tailpiece Insert & Removing it
14:53 - Comment on Glenn Fricker's Video & Real World Situations
17:20 - Victory V Test 2
19:00 - Outro & Final Thoughts
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@FedericoT Жыл бұрын

Thank you for showing the difference between a normal noise level and not, this was super informative for fixing grounding issues!

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@OneEightNate 28 күн бұрын

I love how on the JA20 you spent 10 min talking about the fix but then cut before actually showing it.

@WholeLottaBulldog Жыл бұрын

What an awesome channel, Eric. Cheers brother

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words!

@M8ImRekt Жыл бұрын

@Eric Morettin Glenn's video was hilarious, but yours presents a solution without having to go the extra mile of getting more hardware for the V. Very informative, and well edited. Got a sub out of me!

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I wanted to take the approach of fixing it with the OG hardware and it's possible!

@everardofrancocortes9529 7 ай бұрын

Helped a lot with my ST 20HH...Thanks from Mexico!

@EricMorettin 7 ай бұрын

Glad it helped! You're welcome!

@Durnsx Жыл бұрын

Loved the bridge post puller trick!

@Alfredo78666 Жыл бұрын

Well done, Lio Messi 😜🤘 BTW, congrats for the qualification

@Deathslinger666 Жыл бұрын

Great job keep it up enjoyed the video and helped a lot with the Victory model witch I'm planning on buying and fixing it.🍻

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

Cheers! Thanks for watching and good luck with the repair!

@diegofiorillo6412 Жыл бұрын

This is the best guitar related video on KZfaq

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@NordLydBGN Жыл бұрын

I think you’re the first KZfaqr to say anything negative about Harley Benton😂. I’ve always wondered why everyone is so positive about this brand 🤔

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

You haven't seen Glenn Fricker's video on these then, haha.

@RX120D Жыл бұрын

@@EricMorettin I just bought one a few weeks ago as a cheap guitar while I'm overseas. Build quality - for ~200CAD is excellent. However, I have this same grounding issue as well. The only other problem is a high 11th fret that I'll deal with when I get home. Like you said, if this is someone's first guitar it's a huge problem. For anyone with experience with guitars, it's nothing (considering the price).

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

@@RX120D It's been said before, but if Harley Benton fixes these issues from the factory, puts a bit more TLC into the guitar, and even charges a bit more for the guitars, these will be straight up winners out of the box.

@NordLydBGN Жыл бұрын

I stopped watching videos about Harley Benton a while ago, Glenn probably had some interesting views on this brand though. I got bored with all the obviously sponsored videos, so it’s good to see when someone actually addresses some common issues with cheap guitars. Love the Washburn ❤ I’m dreaming of playing one of those one day 🤩

@Birkguitars Жыл бұрын

I think to be fair to Glen he has reviewed other HB's and loved them albeit they were at a higher price point - budget but not bargain. What I haven't seen yet is any response from Thomann.....

@michalkysel4351 Жыл бұрын

Great video! And, if you need supress level of the noise even lower, to level of EMGs, I recommend complete shielding of all cavities with electronics, including pickup cavities! You will be surprised, how clean can be these HBZs! Reason is, that EMGs including internal shielding of pickup’s case, but these HBZs are from plastic without any conductive layer inside. After shielding, noise level will decrease by big amount, even if you not touching the strings! Tested on my HB guitar SC-1000 with the same pickup set.

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Copper tape on the cavities definitely can go a long way, but changing the pickups on this would be my first real hardware mod. I've done that before and it's worked or left me with the same results as before.

@taylormoorhead718 6 ай бұрын

Great video man! Definitely been looking at grabbing that JA 20HH or TE 20HH. Seems to be a common thing with them

@EricMorettin 6 ай бұрын

Thanks man! If anything changes these pickups to EMGs since they don't need a ground wire to operate and that should help immensely

@taylormoorhead718 6 ай бұрын

@@EricMorettin for sure! Definitely love those Jim root fenders especially the jazz master. So I’ll probably throw EMGs in there for sure

@alekstan 8 ай бұрын

Good idea for not wanting to throw parts at the guitar to fix the problem. It’s good to see you can do it with some time and elbow grease. I agree you shouldn’t have to. Fix this HB

@EricMorettin 8 ай бұрын

That's the thing; you don't need to spend a fortune to get a guitar working properly. Just a bit of TLC and research go a long way.

@forkless Жыл бұрын

I would suggest puncturing the ground wire through the copper tape and let it connect on the top surface, reason being that some glues on the cheaper copper tapes aren't always as conductive -- they may work to some degree, but having the ground actually touch the copper may improve conductivity even more. (having a digital or analog multimeter is an easy way to check)

@chadstickler4595 Жыл бұрын

I like the one in your left hand I play transformers anatomy songs I use 3 or 4 strings I don't have anywhere to put it through

@mooreoutdoor9841 Жыл бұрын

Do you know if Harley Benton now knows about the issue and is making sure it is corrected? Thanks for the video! I was looking at the V

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

I believe they are aware of the issue now! Not sure what they're doing about it though.

@blacksaona Жыл бұрын

So, Does the ground cable is always going to be connected to the bridge? Where do the ground cable starts?

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

Yes and it usually can be found going from the tone control into the body close to the bridge

@Andre.A.C.Oliveira Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, instead of scrubbing the paint off, wouldn't acetone also do the trick?

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

Not sure since I don't have any!

@moosabutt9563 6 ай бұрын

CAN WE USE A THINNER TO REMOVE THE PAINT RATHER THAN SANDING?

@EricMorettin 6 ай бұрын

I haven't tried that but be my guest!

@fede.chachagua Жыл бұрын

Does the ST (Jim Root copy) have the same problem?

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

No idea because I haven't played it. I'd assume so

@Battle941 Жыл бұрын

Yes, mine did.

@tatocta Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Does the ST version of this model have this issue?

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

Haven't tried it so I can't comment on that!

@RX120D Жыл бұрын

Yes. It does. At least mine does.

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

@@RX120D your fix should be like the JA in my video then

@tatocta Жыл бұрын

@@RX120D Did you manage to fix it? I want to order one.

@RX120D Жыл бұрын

@@tatocta I haven't bothered yet. I'm overseas right now so I have no tools. I might go out and get some this weekend.

@TheRobphobos Жыл бұрын

Might just be easier to put this stuff in a little bit of paint stripper.

@Skwisgaarz666 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know if Squier/Fender necks are compatible with these guitars?

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

A lot of it depends on the neck pocket and if it will fit. No other way to figure that out than buying the guitar and trying for yourself.

@Skwisgaarz666 Жыл бұрын

@@EricMorettin yup it doesn’t lineup up with the body. There is a little gap on each side because the stock neck is wider than the Squier one I bought on eBay. I returned the neck. Put Jim Root EMGs and locking Grover tuners and the thing is true shred machine.

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

@@Skwisgaarz666 awesome! You must not have grounding issues with the EMGs as well.

@Skwisgaarz666 Жыл бұрын

@@EricMorettin oddly enough ti didn’t have the grounding issue when it was stock. No hun or buzz at all. I think enough people complained and they fixed it. I just got the guitar last week .

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

@@Skwisgaarz666 Good to know! Thanks!

@Aevyn Жыл бұрын

People keep referring to these guitars as being "under $200", am i missing something or is there a way to purchase these without having to pay nearly $100 extra for shipping to the US?

@ryant3600 Жыл бұрын

Nope. I do miss pre pandemic when it was 35 bucks for 100 pounds, now UPS charges so much however, I know when I ordered a bunch of stuff it was still around the same 100 dollar shipping, so might as well get your monies worth and get extra cheaper stuff to go w/ the guitar.

@chadstickler4595 Жыл бұрын

I only use the bass strings only 3 or 4 whenever I play

@adeptusslugusgaming 8 күн бұрын

Did HB ever address these issues?

@EricMorettin 8 күн бұрын

@@adeptusslugusgaming not sure! I hope so

@Alfredo78666 Жыл бұрын

Damn you righties!:-7

@snakebyte98 Жыл бұрын

Active pickups should not need a ground wire to the bridge, I have guitars with EMGs and they don't have any bridge ground wires

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

Fishman moderns need a ground wire believe it or not

@snakebyte98 Жыл бұрын

@@EricMorettin Well thats stupid another reason for me to dislike Fishman pickups,, in my opinion the EMGs are the only true classic active pickups

@csh9853 Жыл бұрын

A dremel would clean it up real nice.

@Ottophil Жыл бұрын

Funny how people complain about gibson quality, then complain about HB. People just like complaining

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

It's easier to point out the negatives rather than the positives unfortunately!

@djlehara Жыл бұрын

IMHO it seems like guitar builders usually go with chrome hardware in cases where black might LOOK better just because of issues like this. HMMMMM.

@Ponskippa Жыл бұрын

My Harley Benton looks nice, but the neck is horrible

@TJEvans98 Жыл бұрын

easiest fix.....just replace it with an ACTUAL hipshot bridge. Much better quality, much more weight, and they use conductive paint.

@who0icu812 5 ай бұрын

No biggy for the price. Just used a graphite paint mixture. Nothing expensive. 🤷

@hangman960 Жыл бұрын

its a grounding issue shouldnt of left the warehouse like that awful,shame as they look good

@randymiles904 Жыл бұрын

They test them on a clean channel at the factory.

@hangman960 Жыл бұрын

@@randymiles904 You would think they would test them on both

@randymiles904 Жыл бұрын

@@hangman960 well, usually there isn't a need. Either the pickups are working, or they aren't. This paint being an issue is a rarity for sure.

@Augrills Жыл бұрын

Bro you paid like 14 bucks for the guitars

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

I didn't buy them I just fixed them

@csh9853 Жыл бұрын

All my guitars are soldered not just laying under the bridge.

@EricMorettin Жыл бұрын

That's fine. As long as the wire makes contact with metal you're good

@csh9853 Жыл бұрын

@@EricMorettin correct I was just saying even on my cheaper guitars the are all soldered. I’ve never seen a ground wire just laying there but you learn something new everyday.

@WaleshiddenhistoryMD Жыл бұрын

Harley Benton don't have quality control.. you need to see what they sent me, a guitar with a neck pickup not working and a deep split in the neck.. send it back for a replacement, the replacement guitar they sent me needs one hell of a fret leveling job.. will not buy another HB guitar

@Bubblesofbliss1904 Жыл бұрын

Remove the background music.

@shagovthemutiny2591 Жыл бұрын

Glenn Fricker at @SpectreSounds found and fixed these issues on their channel about a week ago. If you want fearless gear reviews check out Spectre Studio .