5 top garden design tips - and 2 mistakes to avoid! Plus 'before' and 'after' shots

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Top garden design ideas from the award-winning Charlotte Rowe Garden Design company. Charlotte and Design Director Tomoko Kawauchi tell us some of the design secrets that has made the company so successful. And check some fascinating 'before' and 'after' shots of some of their gardens.
For Charlotte Rowe Garden Design: www.charlotterowe.com/
00:00 Introduction
00:13 Charlotte Rowe and Design Director, Tomoko Kawauchi
01:02 The three things that are important when designing your garden
01:33 Tip 1 - make a list of everything you do, use and see in your garden
01:59 Look at the light - where the sun falls
02:13 What's already on site, in your garden, is very important
03:49 Draw out a rough 'bubble' map on a piece of paper
04:19 Tip 2 - think laterally (across the garden)
05:52 Tip 3 - paint fencing, walls or trellis dark
07:04 Tip 4 - plant close to the house
07:49 Tip 5 - plant mainly evergreens in small gardens
09:02 Garden design mistake 1 - don't 'centre' the garden
11:05 Garden design mistake 2 - don't make your borders too small
12:07 What garden designers and landscapers do
12:53 The Society of Garden Designers in the UK: www.sgd.org.uk/
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@Hope-uq1vn Жыл бұрын

The after photo of the Chiswick garden is incredible. What an astounding difference.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden Жыл бұрын

It is great, Charlotte is so talented.

@norinenagle6730 2 жыл бұрын

I especially liked how you broke up the interview so there was more time to absorb the ideas. Thanks.

@folee_edge 2 жыл бұрын

This channel is quickly becoming my favorite!

@Lee-up5qf 2 жыл бұрын

It already is mine! 😄

@NellBridges 2 жыл бұрын

@@Lee-up5qf And mine 😊

@amandadavies4418 2 жыл бұрын

Very useful video. Thank you!

@66REDD66 2 жыл бұрын

It’s fabulous. I love this channel too. ❤️❤️☀️☀️❤️❤️

@christinezarvis4761 2 жыл бұрын

The Chiswick redesign is incredible!

@Rodoriginal101 2 жыл бұрын

of course it helps with those plywood boards gone, too.

@matthewgould4464 2 жыл бұрын

What a great video, as a 45yr old chap with absolutely no clue on gardens this has helped thank you!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

@lloydharris1272 2 жыл бұрын

The Chiswick before and after photos really do illustrate the point made exceptionally well.

@christophschneider7483 7 ай бұрын

Bestes Beratungsvideo, das ich bislang zu diesem Thema gesehen habe. Top, Danke!

@harvindersinghuppal2162 2 жыл бұрын

Really interesting and some very good common sense points ... we often watch gardening shows as well as garden centre visits and jump in without thinking of the holistics of what the garden can deliver..... even watching the show gardens at Chelsea etc are inspiring but they don't have a house attached to them with the orientation of your house and garden scape as well as the important point of the neighbouring garden scape from which we either want to either borrow or screen.

@maryanna6302 2 жыл бұрын

The reasoning and principles that guide their garden designs are explained very well in this interview, thank you!

@welvinzabala1741 2 жыл бұрын

I have been gardening for years now myself and sometimes I feel there is still something missing in my yard as I try to figure out where to plant this and that. But in the end, it is the design and the journey that would take you to how you want your garden to look. Gardening always take patience and passion and guts to make changes in your yard. Redesigning is always that first step! Thanks for the tips!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@dawnb7457 9 ай бұрын

I've never thought about a dark fence. Thank you for this advice!

@eileenchang2173 2 жыл бұрын

Alexandra, the ideas and tips you bring forward are invaluable! Thank you🌸❤️🇨🇦

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@canuckviolet3322 2 жыл бұрын

Another excellent video. You are so good at gleaning the best from your interviews and packaging it for the rest of us. Thank you!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@juliabinford6500 2 жыл бұрын

So helpful! Thank you! I love learning design principles. You go above and beyond with your interviews and garden tours.

@rosejohnson973 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video and very helpful - never thought about black fencing and that it recedes!!

@Marie0306 2 жыл бұрын

Super advice. It would be great to have a video on good evergreen plants of different sizes to use in our gardens.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent idea!

@jthor3097 2 жыл бұрын

Wonderful advice. I’m redoing my High Desert front yard. Now I have some great ideas. Thank you so much. ❤️

@kathyraidt16 2 жыл бұрын

Loved this!

@meredith3588 2 жыл бұрын

Great tips, thank you, Alexandra. I'll have to watch again, I'm sure. I only recently have been able to think more of the garden as a whole. I find that more challenging. Guess that is why it works to have the assistance of a garden designer.

@mt2766 2 жыл бұрын

I always watch Alexandra’s interviews at least twice! So many great tips and practical reminders. 🌺

@AllysonPrizeman 2 ай бұрын

Excellent - I've just learnt so much. Feeling more confident about my plans for my garden.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 ай бұрын

Hope it goes well!

@TerriBingham 2 жыл бұрын

Love the dark grey backgrounds and vertical/across garden idea.

@MiAnge1ito 2 жыл бұрын

excellent just what i needed 🌿🌺 to make my garden so pretty again

@adrabruzzese7610 2 жыл бұрын

Great tips Alexandra, thank you.

@tanyastephens3187 2 жыл бұрын

I will send this link to my daughter as she has just moved into a town house with a tiny garden.....some really good tips here.Thanks.

@ThreeRunHomer 2 жыл бұрын

I just bought a house with a large yard. The idea of plantings arranged laterally across the space is fascinating and I’m now eager to give it a try. (I do plan to work with a landscape architect). Thanks for the great tips!

@trevorchong8884 2 ай бұрын

Thanks, that was such an informative video.

@josephinebrevig8748 2 жыл бұрын

Great tips. Thank you. If you can’t afford a garden designer do it yourself, and if need be get some support from a landscaper.

@heathermcelroy7171 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this helpful interview with garden designers. I loved to hear what they said and all you said to explain and expand the points. This is just the sort of information I need! Thank you again!!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@maple5224 2 жыл бұрын

Really excellent advice here. Thanks Alexandra 👍🏼

@joannasz2345 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing. Very informative.

@pamelacallaway3922 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this excellent advice!

@HouseFairyDIY 2 жыл бұрын

Aligning the garden with the back door is such a good tip! I never thought of that.

@convinth 2 жыл бұрын

A lot of good common-sense here. All I need now is a blank canvas - alas, a bit late for that!

@sarahmarti141 2 жыл бұрын

Really useful information. And you’re getting close to 100,000 subscribers Alexandra!

@alexm9148 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative and well structured presentation. Thank you Alexandra, you delivered again 👌✅

@dianahall8069 2 жыл бұрын

This video popped up on my home page and happened to address the one struggle I was having with placement of a small tree. Replaced a good portion of my front lawn with a large bed. Planted the tree off to one side to keep the foundation plantings from looking too symmetrical, look good from inside, and also as a benefit, obscure the view of my neighbors driveway across the street. Questioned whether I should move it to the center of the bed. Now I feel happy with the placement. Thank you!

@kneadysetgrow3220 Жыл бұрын

Very helpful, thank you very much!

@3lightsteps 2 жыл бұрын

Great Tips, lovely small gardens and you looked lovely today too!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! 😊

@CP80416 Жыл бұрын

Your channel is SO helpful in its resources and knowledge and presentation. Thank you!

@foreststream818 2 жыл бұрын

Really helpful video, Alexandra! In-depth resource that I will go to again and again as I plan my garden. Thank you!!!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@basudhamisra2686 2 жыл бұрын

I have learned so much about gardening watching your video Alexandra. Thanks a lot. The best qualities of your videos are they are pleasant, full of information yet not too long and they have an universal appeal no matter in which country we are residing in. Can you please make a video on how to plan for setting up irrigation, electrical connection for a size of garden similar to yours? Would like to know what things we must keep when the garden is an empty canvas and what we can add later as the garden develops over time. Thanks for inspiring us to do gardening in an efficient way.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting collection of topics! Though I am not the right channel for talking about setting up irrigation systems and electrical connections, I fear, probably better to check that out with a channel that does really practical DIY and electrical videos. Everything I've ever heard about irrigation systems has led me to think it would be best to pay a professional company to install one! The empty canvas garden is certainly an interesting one and I will think about that.

@petahmcdee6869 2 жыл бұрын

I just love your show!

@kathrynmettelka7216 2 жыл бұрын

The principles make sense wherever one gardens. Rational and beautiful! Thank you.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

@kimjapinga6550 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video-great information. You do such a beautiful job of interviewing people and synthesizing the information for us. Thank you!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@BeautifulOaks 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent Video, Alexandra! It has a wealth of useful guidance, great before and after examples and good interviews. I think I have watched this three times and will refer to it often. I also think the designers’ clients really got their money’s worth in those eye pleasing gardens.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@vickimaiorano5763 Жыл бұрын

Very helpful video. Lots of ideas for my long and narrow garden . Thank you

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 10 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@VanessaTJ 2 жыл бұрын

I adore this channel! Thank you

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

@agnespm4181 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. This has given me lots of ideas for my garden and helped me to understand good design principles. It is all a great learning experience.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@MK-wm6gu 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all the useful information!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@AnnMarieKing 2 жыл бұрын

So wonderful to watch this video! Great tips and inspiration.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@tendo102 Жыл бұрын

The advice in this video were a game changer for me. I was struggling with the layout of my garden but now I know exactly how to make it work, thank you!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden Жыл бұрын

So nice to hear!

@adoniscomplexj 2 жыл бұрын

I love this video, It gave unthinkable useful tips and precaution of mistakes that are not known to an ordinary gardener. Good job, Alexandra! I also highly appreciated Charlotte Rowe's works.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@hazelyep3519 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the very useful tips! I have been waiting for this video and happily the coverage is very helpful 👍😊. The new "after" Chiswick garden looks great!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@glgardener4972 Жыл бұрын

Very informative.

@ourlifeedited6441 2 жыл бұрын

This was so helpful. Thank you! Now drawing up plans to make my borders larger. 😁

@monikabarry6509 2 жыл бұрын

So helpful

@eliev7844 2 жыл бұрын

Such a helpful video, Alexandra. Very handy, as we will be moving into a new-build with a practically empty garden, so need lots of design guidance. Thank you for your fantastic videos xx

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Hope it all goes well, exciting to have a new project

@jeromegagnon8335 2 жыл бұрын

You inspire me. Thank you

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@dougandcandacebishop7259 2 жыл бұрын

Alexandra, I SO appreciate your videos. They give me hope that i might be able to do something with my garden mess one day. Hugs!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! And we all have mess in our garden...

@TheSuburbanGardenista Жыл бұрын

So many great points - thanks for sharing 💚

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 10 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@mikeq6384 2 жыл бұрын

GREAT VIDEO as always ! Very informative

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@Gtumrths 5 ай бұрын

Very very Hd tips!!! Very logical! Thank you!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@cindysayavong8513 2 жыл бұрын

I really love Chriswick’s after garden. Its Amazing ! Now I have an idea to cover the fence with plants. Thank you for showing.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

@janetcorey5102 2 жыл бұрын

Very good advice to consider!

@JerriBerriW 2 жыл бұрын

comment from another continent: thanks for introducing this great garden design studio and its works along with great tips to me in this video! super informative and helpful!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@adeleamorosi852 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting episode.I appreciated very much.Thanks Alexandra for your explanations.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! Thank you.

@MartinDoms 2 жыл бұрын

This is such a valuable video, thanks so much! I have found the most challenging thing as a new gardener is having the courage to break up that big central area that most of us keep as "the lawn". These kinds of tips are so useful. Thank you!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Hope your new gardening continues to go well.

@66REDD66 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve shrunk my lawn. My father had it lovely years ago , but a long rectangle. It’s getting too much for me to mow it now. So I’ve made massive borders after getting inspiration from Alexandra’s videos. Be brave and go for it. Shrink those boring lawns. 😍☀️🌸🌼🌻🌻🌷

@StarryHorizon 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, very helpful, giving us an idea of what we should look for ❤️

@TheMiddlesizedGarden Жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

@ashn9172 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant brilliant channel. Thanks for all the videos!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

@YalisCommunity 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome tips! Thank you for sharing, it is wonderful to see how a Garden designer plans ahead and utilizes the space.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@jennifer-threedogsinagarde8265 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative video on design. Really enjoyed the wealth of garden examples and the before and afters.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@helloplantlovers 2 жыл бұрын

Fabulous video Alexandra - thank you! I'm in mid planning as we speak! Great tips!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to seeing it one day! If we're ever all let out again.

@zacharysimon2952 2 жыл бұрын

I’m getting to this video late (it’s been a busy past few weeks!), but I love all of your “garden design” videos. One of the things I’ve been curious about recently is permaculture design. The literature has a lot of intriguing ideas, like zones around the house, or guilds of plants that work well together. If you ever come across someone with that type of expertise, I would be thrilled to watch of you interviewing them! Thank you for another great video, the work you showed from those designers was excellent.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Good idea, I'll bear that in mind.

@carolynellis387 2 жыл бұрын

Diving in this is a timely video as I'm planning on restructuring my back garden and adding a path breaking up this awful non lawn I've got but keeping some green. Great ideas etc.

@michellebyrom6551 2 жыл бұрын

Have you considered replacing your nonlawn areas with evergreen ground cover? In your new plans, obviously. The green looks and feels good to the eye and foot. Less work than grass, especially once established. What you use depends on microclimate, placement and traffic. Some plants give seasonal flowers or colour which beats grass in my view. Mosses, chamomile, thyme, sedums, saxifrage, bugleweed, Veronica, phlox etc.

@judymiddleswart9350 2 жыл бұрын

Great ideas and info love your channel!! Thanks!!!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

That's lovely to hear, thank you!

@whitelight9516 2 жыл бұрын

Would be nice to see a video of how to design a modern garden or a minimalistic one. Thank you!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

This video may be helpful: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pp6TnbKcl7u3h6M.html although it's not necessarily minimalistic. I'll certainly keep an eye out for a good minimalistic garden, it would be interesting.

@sahabshraddha8453 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice tips🌴💚💚❤️❤️

@Tibetan2 2 жыл бұрын

Such an informative session packed with a wealth of helpful information! Just discovered your channel and will definitely stay tuned… Thanks so much for sharing.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@laura2842 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Alexandra!! the Chiswick garden after photo is beautiful and BTW stunning necklace you are wearing. cheers

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@patriciaevans7953 2 жыл бұрын

i will say i really enjoyed this video, thank you for putting on yt. i want to see more.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed making it too.

@jilladcock5648 2 жыл бұрын

Time to start some redesign…love these tips.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@nspector 2 жыл бұрын

Hello. Very useful as always! I would love to see a video on breaking the rules.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting! I will keep an eye out for rule-breakers!

@daiseegray9110 2 жыл бұрын

Great tips!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@smoothsailingmp 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@swsunsetseeker7285 2 жыл бұрын

Lots to think about. We are redoing our backyard and you gave us some good tips as to what to discuss with the designer/landscaper

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear!

@fullgardening 2 жыл бұрын

Very information🌱🌱 🌺🌺🌸🌸🙏🙏

@j.m.7056 2 жыл бұрын

Being mindful of views from inside my house has greatly improved my gardening choices. Thanks, Alexandra for all you do in making your videos. Did you get a new camera? You are crystal clear in the images of you talking.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! It's not a new camera, but in the last few videos I've been filming myself on my phone, which isn't quite as good as the camera. But now my husband is back doing the filming again, which is definitely an improvement (he hadn't been well)!

@helenpruzan6970 2 жыл бұрын

This was very helpful!!Just painted the house,next the foundation, then my medium sized backyard. My echinacea has "Aster Yellow"!!!!Didn't even know it was a thing.Ugh

@beckyscheller9358 2 жыл бұрын

Good video. Love the before and after photos. I have the opposite problem. Live on 2 acres surround by farm land USA central Indiana. Can you address how to best handle it. Also have a large red barn and “she shed”. Trying to add more trees and shrubs to lighten the work load as I age

@thebastardgift 2 жыл бұрын

How educational! I always thought landscapers per their work were garden designers and this video makes it acutely clear how that is just not so. I am also curious, a lot curious, about creating a dark wall in a garden. I would like to hear more about that concept.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

I'll definitely try to pull together more dark walls and fences if I can find them, as it's a really interesting concept. We have one dark wall in our kitchen, because I wanted to hide a TV (it 'disappears' on the dark wall) and it's been very effective. It doesn't make the kitchen darker, because it is the shadiest wall anyway and doesn't get any direct sun. To research it, I went onto Pinterest and searched 'one dark wall', so you might find it interesting to look up 'dark fence' on Pinterest. I've just checked it and some interesting examples come up.

@thebastardgift 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMiddlesizedGarden , thank you! I know you did another video where a gardener had a darken wall that appeared as if the path was leading somewhere when it didn't and I love that idea of darkness in a garden so seeing it again in this video, I HAD to ask. I would have never thought about making a dark wall where the TV is and how smart it that! I will check out Pinterest and thank you for the that compass.

@Pajoe827 Жыл бұрын

I love these lady's.

@pippamac2262 Жыл бұрын

This is very useful and helpful, thank you............lots to think about. My garden is small but is wider than it is long which seems to be unusual ~ do you have any ideas for it please? It is approximately 50 feet wide - a little wider than the house and then the back fence is roughly 36 feet away from the house. [It is north facing]

@mauracurran3270 2 жыл бұрын

Love your tips for better design, maybe you could do similar for a country garden of about half an acre. Thanks in advance.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Will definitely look out for a good garden to feature, but it's worth remembering that Tip 1 applies to all gardens of any size and shape and is the key starting point for all garden design. Once you've listed everything you want from your garden, everything you want to do there, everything that is there and has to stay, plus where the light and the views are, you have your starting point for a half acre garden. The next point for a half acre garden would be to divide it up into 'rooms' or zones, each of which can then be treated as smaller gardens within themselves (each might have a focal point, somewhere to sit etc). Generally, also if it's a larger country garden, the more formal, planned areas, 'rooms' or zones are nearest the house, with less formal or wilder areas further away.

@fulviawalton7806 Ай бұрын

Incredible Channel. Love the content. I am interested in alternative options for boxwood. Ours have been destroyed in Toronto Canada. I didn’t see the link for this. Thank you.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden Ай бұрын

It's this video, although the title isn't very clear, I may re-name it! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h92EhZqHz7bTm3k.html

@brendasaunders325 2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed watching this particularly the bit about the house structure. I have a 1970s mid-terrace house. The back door is flanked by windows either side and the garden path runs in line from the back door to the garden gate so the house and garden are symmetrical I would love to know how I can make it look less 'formal' and take the focus away from the garden gate.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting problem. What about designing it from one of the windows - the one you look out of most often? Quite a few designers design 'on the diagonal' - as if you'd turned the garden 45 degrees to the right or left. Or you could take the eye upwards, perhaps, with an arch or pergola... sorry these are probably not very good ideas, but it's always difficult to envisage.

@jamesnunn7181 2 жыл бұрын

Your videos have helped my career and business and inspired me so much - thank you - wholeheartedly , from Rachael Taylor LoveGardens x

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@opprrersw.i.p.864 2 жыл бұрын

This is great information! I have a house with @ a third of an acre (or @ .12 hectare) and struggle with how to design my garden.

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.

@oburns1988 Ай бұрын

This is brilliant! What brand and colour is that dark grey paint?

@karinmollemans 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if you could make a video on working this an making design changes in an existing garden... how to know what to keep and what to get rid of... how to keep ahead of weeds while the garden is in the process of being changed. We decided after weeds we taking over an empty space (where chickens used to run free) to start a lawn/meadow. But there maybe more clever ways. I have no idea if such a blog is possible, but since you asked ;-). Thanks for the lovely videoa and the super usefull, practical info in all of the them!

@TheMiddlesizedGarden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you - design changes to an existing garden is an interesting one. I don't know if you saw one of the recent videos, where they faced this very problem, you may find it helpful: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a51kl9Sizpyqgpc.html Keeping on top of weeds while the garden is being changed is difficult, but if you're not planting for a season or two, cover the area with black horticultural plastic or cardboard and this helps kill the weeds (they do pop out around the edges though, so you still have to weed.) There's a bit more about this in the No Dig Flower Borders with Charles Dowding: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9eWebKV2tach5c.html And I will be doing some more on meadow grasses quite soon.