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Sinnis Terrain In-depth Review - What's it like to live with?
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Күн бұрынI've been riding the SInnis Terrain for a few weeks now and feel I've got a pretty good measure of the motorcycle. In this review I pass on my in-depth findings of the bike from what it's like to ride in different conditions, to how much it'll cost you to own and run.
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@ridingfromreality287 4 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up for anyone wondering if these can go long distance/last any amount of time. Yes. We drove two of them to Mongolia, over 10,000 miles (only bothered to service them twice on the way) and they are still going, I use mine as my everyday bike in London because I love it. They handled foot deep mud, off road, sand, river crossings up to the numberplate, and too many miles of motorway through europe. They carried us and all of our gear including some off road tyres and we still managed to get 250 miles per tank (which never ran fully dry). Sinnis youtube has our post Mongol Rally interview if you want to see more =D
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Nice one....
@steventhompson3507 Жыл бұрын
That's fantastic thanks for the heads up. I've got one coming next week and I can't wait. But how on earth do you cope with the running In period at reduced revs. I've never had a new vehicle before and I'm a little a little apprehensive about that part.
@ADAM00717 Жыл бұрын
I'm Sold😀
@paulplus3830 5 жыл бұрын
What a strange name - Sinister Rain.... must be a forgotten song by Prince. :)
@henrya3530 5 жыл бұрын
Some things you forgot to mention... Electrical system and instrument pod made by Siemens AG. Has separate fuses for mains, lights, ignition + spares. LED indicators, tail light + running light. Fuel injection made by Delphi. Comes with adaptor cable to connect ECU to any standard diagnostic computer. Uses standard error codes too so no problems finding someone to work on it. Centre stand means doing home maintenance is a doddle. Takes about 10 minutes to correctly adjust the chain. Rear mono-shock is adjustable for preload and damping. Regular applications of ACF-50 inhibits all corrosion. High level exhaust and air intake (under the seat) means you can ford streams/rivers/flooded roads. If disaster strikes and the airbox gets flooded there's a drain by the mono-shock. Very handy if this happens while adventuring in the middle-of-nowhere ;-) Only thing I felt necessary to change on mine was to add a magnetic sump plug. The best ones are made by Dimple and I use them on all my bikes.
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one - cheers Henry!
@kwak1k 5 жыл бұрын
Do you work in a Sinnis dealership Harry?
@henrya3530 5 жыл бұрын
@@kwak1k No, and my name is NOT Harry.
@andytyler1140 5 жыл бұрын
Henry A lol
@ianburg9905 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent information Henry. Thanks for posting.
@winteronice 4 жыл бұрын
Honda Varadero, Derpbi Terra, Malagutti Dune, Zündapp Adventure TT, and still more 125cc adventure bikes out there. So, Sinnis in not the only one. Nice vid, really liked how much information you give especially since you rode it for a month. Gives the info real value.
@Alexnikpo 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame the Varadero is discontinued. It was fantastic for a 125.
@RawTopShot 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alexnikpo Decent physical size too.
@Sam-mh9sz 5 жыл бұрын
The Terrain is a Great little Bike, I bought one in May 2018, Mainly as a bike to get me back on the road after 25 years . I've used it every day to commute to and from work , Even through winter, Not had a Single issue at all with it, Keep it well maintained with the usual weekly checks and maintenance. Had a week solo camping on it late summer last year up The NYM, Enjoyed it Thouroughly, Cracking little bike , Great Honest Review as Always TMF.
@marticon9286 4 жыл бұрын
Sam how does it cope with Hills and gradients?
@jackladd4332 3 жыл бұрын
@@marticon9286 My RSX EFi is rubbish on hills and gradients. I still wouldn"t have any other 125. Top speed is 68. Another poor fact but i accept these 2 negs. Uphill i get 44 to 58mph. Could be worse. It vibrates like hell at top speed too but ok with earplugs. I'd still recommend it. I absolutely love mine. I've never been able to lean so much doing left and right turns. It's like laying in bed and rolling over to have another mouthful of brown ale while you're watching the snooker on a projector.
@marticon9286 3 жыл бұрын
Jack Ladd cheers for the tips mate!
@JLOSTAFF1 5 жыл бұрын
No-one can ever accuse you of not giving us a broad range of motorcycles to consider - Gold Wing to Sinnis!!
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
I try and cover as much breadth as I can!
@chrisj1863 5 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these for the current wife to learn on. Cracking little bike and once she'd passed all the tests, we sold it for not a great deal less than we'd paid. Now she's on a Tiger 800. It drew a lot of looks due to its size and style I have to say. Spare parts were widely available and dirt cheap. Didn't find the back brake grabby though. Another really honest and accurate review TMF. Thanks
@mattmuttley 5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Happy to see more "small" bikes being reviewed. Would always welcome more.
@neilharrison1203 5 жыл бұрын
Nice review, I can’t be bothered with big machines any more and subsequently am becoming a big fan of smaller machines much like yourself. Why not? Most do nearly everything you might need to do and are cheap as a bag of chips. What’s not to like? Thanks
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@fabianobenedetti6692 5 жыл бұрын
I think nylon is mentioned as the material used for binding the tyre structure... The tyre itself is actually made of rubber, don't worry...
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yes someone else mentioned that - my bad....
@katana258 5 жыл бұрын
ya this guy does not seem to know anything ..
@edwardfrench9925 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a 44 new rider on a CBT and just picked up a 2021 water cooled one of these for a smidge over 2k. It had 230 miles on the clock so still running it in. I’m 6ft4 and 13 stone and currently the bike does seem a bit limited on power at the higher speeds. I understand the speedometer significantly over reads too. That said I’m really enjoying it and plan to take it on a tour of the UK before progressing to bigger bikes. I saw a year old one that didn’t get too well cared for and a number of bolts were corroded. I’ve liberally applied ACF50 as per TMFs tutorial and it has come up very well. Despite the numerous naysayers the fact a pair did the Mongolian rally with no issues and teapotone did a uk tour ok speaks volumes for reliability. The service interval is disappointing but will only be an issue for the tour and I’ll talk to Sinnis beforehand about how to manage this. I haven’t been more than 60 miles yet but will gently build the distance. Wild camping will be fine and it’ll make a change for a machine to carry the weight instead of humping it all myself. Tent, kip mat, sleeping bag, odds and sods, stove, porridge, water and brew kit. Should be epic
@greenxtian 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 41 6'7" And 19&1/2 stone. Was thinking of getting my CBT, and was looking at the terrain. Do you have enough room?
@edwardfrench9925 2 жыл бұрын
@@greenxtian Hi James, I did the trip and the bike did really well. I’ve fitted Metzeler Roadtecs and upgraded the battery to a 11Amp AGM. The bike carried me (6’4”, 14 stone) plus all the clobber for something like 1500miles over four days. 9000rpm all day long. To be fair it struggled on hills but it was such a lovely ride. To focus on your specific question I found my knees would ache after two hours in the saddle. The remedy is a break every 1.5hrs or so. Attention to posture prevented my neck aching too much. My understanding is the terrain is on the larger side of 125s and others recommended a Honda Varadero for taller riders. I have my big bike course in a couple of weeks so obviously I had a 748 delivered today, lol. At my height, god loves a trier thinking he will be able to ride that… I encountered many naysayers over the terrain and Having put 3000miles on mine in six months, I’d happily recommend it, even at 6’7”!
@wavr_734 5 жыл бұрын
Great review as always TMF, your Duke 390 review led me to buy one. Keep up the good work!
@onecho2261 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best reviews I've watched on this bike. Thank you so much!! I'm thinking on buying my first motorcycle and I'm highly considering this one.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@willf1175 5 жыл бұрын
Got mine today, only done 35 miles so far and it's not easy keeping it below 6500 revs for the running in period. Seems quite nippy and manoeuvrable and at 6'5" it's a tall enough 125 that I don't look completely ridiculous.
@rafalcejrowski4488 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely an amazing interview!!! Straight to the point with everything! Very grateful for that. Thank you
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@LIKWID 5 жыл бұрын
Breakfast and brew at the ready. Looking forward to this. Love the looks of what they've done with it.
@tomtilley3162 5 жыл бұрын
really like your reviews ...completely honest pointing out good and bad points ....always good to follow your channel thanks for doing what you do ...ps it's about time we had another flying video
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
...stay tuned Tom!
@axleg1254 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video, l got mine recently. It is a 2020. I agree with all your comments. I love my sinnis. Thanks again.
@guypotter2301 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative as ever, I watch all your videos, thanks
@ngilaeric2487 5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to our review of the Benelli Leoncino 500cc. Awesome review as always.
@petermurphy75able 5 жыл бұрын
Decent effort from sinnis. The service interval is a strange one but definitely an option for shorter commutes.
@jeremycubs8331 5 жыл бұрын
In my own humble opinion, Any 125cc should be able to reach 70mph, I can't believe the government hasn't made this obligatory to all manufacturers in the UK, reason being to keep up with maximum speed limit on dual or motorways.
@FuchsiaShock 5 жыл бұрын
Just think though, it's legal to ride a 50cc on the motorway!
@ianburg9905 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, no you cannot. It's against the law to ride a 50cc bike on the motorways in the UK.
@hairyneil 4 жыл бұрын
Could you not just....use othe roads?
@kevinwyatt9771 4 жыл бұрын
@@hairyneil If you need to get anywhere quickly, the motorways were designed for that purpose, albeit always under construction/repair. The older roads that they replace are often resigned to servicing housing estates etc. and normally have much lower speed limits and other delaying street furniture, like traffic lights. And of course roadworks to install such kit
@Jim553just 3 жыл бұрын
@@hairyneil The government are reconsidering the limit for bikes on a CBT, with a view to raising the capacity.
@takecare6832 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks TMF ---- you have a wonderful channel.
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@sproutandkidneysoup2296 5 жыл бұрын
Back in the day I toured around Europe on a Yamaha RS125, and while I was in France, I met a couple touring 2 up on a Yamaha FS1E moped. You can tour on anything if you want to. As an aside, can you please include the seat height in your reviews. I'm an inch taller than you, but my short legs mean if you can't flat foot a bike, I can't touch the ground. It's the first spec I look at before yet again ruling out another machine I can't ride.
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yep - I included the seat height in my first ride/initial impressions review of this bike, as well as the other specs in general....
@ancienttractorbuoy 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer I wish all reviewers showed the bikes from the side with them seated with feet on the pegs. I can't ride a bike with my knees bent more than about 85 degrees. I imagine other people would appreciate the view.
@mowterbike4316 3 жыл бұрын
great review, honest and informative as usual, thinking of getting this for my wife. love it
@geoffozevans4500 5 жыл бұрын
Good value as a hack around town, looks ok too 👍😎
@nearlyretired6440 5 жыл бұрын
If I was setting up a courier business in a big city - this bike would totally fit the bill.
@DJShadow1966 5 жыл бұрын
CST stands for Cheng Shin Tyre Co, well respected Chinese tyre brand. Just a side note, a lot of Bridgestone bike tyres used to be made in China in the early days, and they were always fine. Good video, and nice honest review, keep them coming Sir!
@MM-ts5ml 4 жыл бұрын
So far best review for bike, thanks alot👍🏽✌🏽
@saddle8bag 5 жыл бұрын
They source their rearview mirrors from the same place Kawasaki does. I saw a vid of a guy in the UK riding a '19 Honda CB500X. That looks like an awesome bike. It's got a nice 19" front tire which gives good off road stability and a lot of tire choices. It's also light and goes like a rocket on the backroads. If you're looking for something different to review, that would be a great one.
@terryblack2219 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you... Not my thing but you help me keep up with things. Servicing seems crazy although once out of warranty it would be a doddle to do yourself. Although The Chinese will do the same as the Japanese did once they move into the 250-500 market... this one you tested is incredible for less then £3000.
@scottspeirs1889 5 жыл бұрын
TMF... Just passed my cbt at 50 years old and bought one, I've been told it's a susuki engine and built in brighton, you can change the dash from blue to orange, sinnis have sold so much of these bikes that a 380cc is due out very soon with the same headlights as your bmw gs1200, looking forward to your review of it... Thanks for a great review, the only downside as you say is going up a long hill it drops power but all in all its a great bike to commute or grab some messages on the way home from work!
@scottspeirs1889 5 жыл бұрын
Forgot to ask if you have spare time could you do a review of the kawasaki vulcan 650s as it's meant to b a good beginner bike and at this age with not much experience it's not pure power am looking for, BTW your reviews are great, thanks mate!
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott - will see what I can do!
@dsimon9s29 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting. Unfortunately, the bike is not sold in the USA. I can see it being a nice competitor against the Royal Enfield. In the years to come, Sinnis increasing the displacement of the engine and making it more highway friendly would be great.
@lamaramav3 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video. On lockdown I’m catching up with these videos. Thinking about getting a bike, haven’t ridden since 17, now 46. Back then it was all about the AR50, TZR125 etc for me but I’ve been really imprsssed with sinnis bikes. Not sure whether to go for something like this or cafe racer or scrambler type bike, 6ft 2 big build and a problem with my spine will probably dictate what I get. 😕
@beastman.330 4 жыл бұрын
Ah the good old days when I had my blue and white TZR125 back in 1994 .it was one of the fastest 125.. I got 98 mph out of it on the a45 going from Birmingham to Coventry.
@petethompson1282 3 жыл бұрын
@@beastman.330 derestricted mine, wont say how fas ti got... but miss the fact all these new ones cant hit 60 and the chines just throw in rubbish 10hp engines
@andrewparry814 3 жыл бұрын
I rode mine to Slovenia and back in 2018. No problems at all. Made sure I had it serviced once I got there and again on my return.
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@Sairus. 5 жыл бұрын
An Excellent in-depth honset review of the sinnis Terrain . Really Great video.. thank you 👍👍
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :0)
@iangrozier7877 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love you to get hold of the new Zontes ZT 125 U1 and compare it to this. Im holding on to my 2015 cbr repsol at the moment until I find out more about it. Was about to sell it and get a terrain then spotted the Zontes. No baggage on it granted but it's got abs, sport or eco modes, hand guards, crash bars, keyless security, etc and looks gorgeous and all for 29 hundred. Take a look on Zontes UK then demand they give you one to review lol
@seeker7679 5 жыл бұрын
I must confess I'm rather envious of the choice of smaller bikes you have in the U.K. Over here in Canada we don't have nearly as many, although the short service intervals are a little bit of a turn off. Thanks for the review TMF, excellent as usual. All the best!
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Seeker!
@user-fo6mo8ch9v 2 жыл бұрын
Every review of this bike no one has ever opened the storage to show us how big 😂
@TheCaretaker555 5 жыл бұрын
TMF ...i like the look of this bike and for a commuter bike like you say its perfect with the luggage etc , however when i passed my test my first bike was a brand new 2007 Honda XL125V Varadero with a speed of around 70-75 once the engine had been run in :) which i would still have over this .....good review mate and conclusion
@Zoltan-xm9dw 5 жыл бұрын
Honda XL125V Varadero. Best learner legal bike ever made ,bullet proof aswell .
@davidt343 5 жыл бұрын
I did 14000 mile around europe on a honda varadero 125. Fantastic bike. Even when load up with luggage can still get 70 out of a run in one. Plus the millage and confort is outstanding
@Lhawk2107 5 жыл бұрын
only there are no new Honda XL125V Varadero nowadays, Honda stop making them years back...
@shaneweightman 5 жыл бұрын
My son has had two sinnis apaches, first one got stolen , and he abuses his , never looks after it, and it has never let him down, even ran into the back off a car and ended up on the roof , of the car that reversed fast from a driveway, great little bikes for the money 💰 cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think (for what they are - ie built to a price) they are great little bikes......
@Jim553just 4 жыл бұрын
A wholesome review, with recommendations. Are we being taken 'for a ride' by established manufacturers? They often do not provide even USB connections, no justification at all for that. Who really deserves our patronage? Aren't we to blame?
@derekm6236 3 жыл бұрын
" Are we being taken 'for a ride' by established manufacturers? " Yes! " Who really deserves our patronage? " Should be obvious, but the majority will still keep on bending over. " Aren't we to blame?" As a nation, yes!
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the 125 Varadero I owned. The Varadero was bulletproof, albeit not overly great at long distance commuting involving any higher speed roads as was a little lacking in power, but I would be interested to see if the Sinnis is still running in five years time, or if it has turned into a pile of corroded metal....
@rickp9946 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair my CRF250L spokes are rusting and pitted after 3 months use (never ridden in rain/wet and washed after use whenever there's been salt on the road, dried with a motorcycle dryer and liberally doused with ACF50). So the other manufacturers have their problems too.
@AJBAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Love the look of the sinnis terrain, as a first bike it's between this and a supermoto style bike in the coming months 👍
@brakenoodle105 Жыл бұрын
Nice review. BTW, CST on the tyres is Cheng Shin Tyre (company).
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that!
@tomg7237 5 жыл бұрын
Sinnis isn't the only company with the AA coverage. Suzuki do the exact same, except it's known as Suzuki assistance. But it covers all the exact same points as the sinnis AA does.
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
....as does Royal Enfield (may not be the AA but euro wide roadside recovery included for three years)....
@ianallso2541 5 жыл бұрын
I have just ridden a Sym GTS 300i which has the same characteristic regarding the linked breaks, having previously ridden the Honda PCX150 which doesn't have linked brakes, the front end dipping when I applied the rear break (on the Sym), came as a surprise.
@jeffgravitt3732 5 жыл бұрын
I'll have to pile on with the short service intervals. Seriously, if this were my bike, that sort of mileage would see me in the shop roughly every two months, and the cost per annum begins to rise on a *really* steep curve. Having said that, I live in Northern California, so my riding season is more or less year round (although we're certainly getting pounded with rain and snow this year). Here's another consideration - at some point, most vehicles seem to have a "major" service after a certain mileage is reached, and that service can often be a pretty large lump of lucre, so if this little bike requires servicing at such short intervals, when is that major service required and how much is the cost of it? A serious rider might hit the major service once a year!
@jonathanburton1207 5 жыл бұрын
I like the looks of this bike - it's so cute! Slightly worrying that Sinnis simply forgot to tell you it was broken though; it doesn't do Chinese bikes any favours! Great review as always.
@scootyman2974 4 жыл бұрын
CST is a brand name for Cheng Shin Tyres. Remember those tyres you had on your Raleigh Burner BMX in the 80’s? Yep you guessed it, they made them. I believe they also have a link with Maxxis which makes tyres for performance bikes too. I have a set of CST tyres on my Honda Vision 110 as standard from the factory and in their defence, I have to say they are fine. They last about 50% longer on the rear than Michelin’s and sure, you have to be more careful as they wear down but they are fine. I wouldn’t put them in the bad category by any means like maybe the TVS tyres on the CBF125 when new. Now they were incredibly bad and seemingly made of solid nylon.
@Roy_Godiksen 5 жыл бұрын
Have to say, it looks Really cool. If i were 16 years old and wanted a bike for trips around the country (Norway), i would definitively consider this bike. Having a A licence, i would want at least a 500cc bike though. Hard to do serious touring with a 125cc. That said, for riding to your buddies and school, i'd say it's a good alternative if you're more into practicality then hooligan riding.
@stevenhill6214 5 жыл бұрын
Saw this at the show last month, visually impressive and you seem to get a lot for your money.
@cloggsy1971 5 жыл бұрын
Does look a bargain machine, although VERY short service intervals 😳 My lad is interested in starting to learn to ride. I’d point him in the direction of one of these 👍🏻
@Bikerbug2020 5 жыл бұрын
TMF - 2000 miles doesn’t seem like a reasonable annum value, if people will use as a commuter giving 20 miles round trip per day and 20 work days is 400 per month or 4800 a year. For the UK. That should double your service calculation...
@chrisredfield3240 5 жыл бұрын
Even at 4800miles per annum, bike servicing would end up costing so much it would be more than a car by a big margin. Most cars/vans have 20k service intervals, compared with motorcycles it makes changing your own oil a must if commuting.
@adrianmcardle85 3 жыл бұрын
Great looking bike
@stuarthunter7559 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing you do a review of the T380
@_zzpza 5 жыл бұрын
I thought "man handle" was short for "manual handling".
@jag1970s 5 жыл бұрын
That’s ‘womanual handling’, surely? On second thoughts...
@springy-2112 5 жыл бұрын
@@jag1970s or Biannual handling if you're not sure !!👍🏻☮❤
@mattmuttley 5 жыл бұрын
@@springy-2112 You're only going to move it twice a year? 😉
@springy-2112 5 жыл бұрын
@@mattmuttley I'm also bilingual , I can't speak French in two languages 👍🏻Boooooo!!
@andytyler1140 5 жыл бұрын
zzpza you get the point.
@robedmunds7163 3 жыл бұрын
Who thought up that linked brake idea. Just what you want, the front grabbing on as you come up to a diesel covered roundabout.
@deadlyrasberry 5 жыл бұрын
How about a top gear style leaderboard for the cost of ownership? It would be nice to have a bit more of a reference point.
@FunAllDayLong4353 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea!!
@pete8222 4 жыл бұрын
Been considering a maxi scooter 125 honda or Yamaha at nearly 5 grand. But now I've seen this definitely a contender
@lucywucyyy 2 жыл бұрын
finally an adventure bike i could actually pick back up if i dropped it
@adammoorby99 5 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend this bike for a Learner? I was looking at sports bikes but i like the look of this bike for commuting and also short camping trips
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yes for sure.....perfect!
@adammoorby99 5 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer awesome i want to go camping but not sure panniers and tail bags would suit a sports bike 😂😂
@allanmethven9238 5 жыл бұрын
125s are great fun I’ve been riding over1000cc bikes for 30 years .And every time I jump on a 125 it brings a smile to my face ..great review TMF but I’d stick with a Honda 125 .only my opinion sir ..
@Jim553just 4 жыл бұрын
It's getting a big brother soon. Go on - you know you want to, it would be v interesting.
@geoffsaunderson5766 4 жыл бұрын
Jim really interested to see the new one, it’s a 350 I think?
@matbiker5460 5 жыл бұрын
Great review TMF looks like an interesting bike if you need a small run around. It would be interesting to see you do a review of the Versys 300 which I think could be an upgrade for someone moving from a bike like this. as always keep up the good work and Ride safe
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers as ever Mat!
@justdad53 5 жыл бұрын
Beat my expectations for this bike. EU rules on linked brakes..argh! Quality better than expected. Big question for me would be service interval. In the right situation it works for me.
@davidhamer2300 5 жыл бұрын
Taking delivery of mine today.
@Dan-fd8pd 5 жыл бұрын
@Mike just wondering why we should not support China ? should we support Japan ? Or Taiwan ?
@jonnycando 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dan-fd8pd Yes, I would much rather support Japan and Taiwan!
@Dan-fd8pd 5 жыл бұрын
@@jonnycando Ok 😎👍
@kyotosal 5 жыл бұрын
I would never buy this bike if I had to take it in for service every 1250 miles. That kills it for me. Thanks again for another good video Sir.........Sal : )
@henrya3530 5 жыл бұрын
Servicing this bike mainly involves changing the oil, checking tyre pressure, and tensioning the chain. It has a centre stand so these are all easy tasks you can do yourself :-)
@barnbersonol 5 жыл бұрын
It needs nothing of the sort but that's how dealers sell a cheap bike with an expensive warranty.
@purplealienjez 5 жыл бұрын
I think the 'Nylon' on the tyres may mean the reinforcing is nylon bands not steel. I use CST here in the Philippines, on my KLX. They seem pretty fine. I ride in all weathers including the rainy season. Not had a problem so far. lol.
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
..ah good point re the Nylon band, I hadn't thought of that!
@craigallsop6624 5 жыл бұрын
i just ordered mine
@x66Hawk66x 2 жыл бұрын
The Kymco Stryker 125 had the Adventure vibe to it. almost a KLE500 for looks
@andrewhoult 5 жыл бұрын
Bought a 67 plate terrain for my lad to ride when he turned 17 in sept 2017 and he's got 4560 or so miles on his now. The service interval is short but whateverwheels have warrantied it for 5 years. He even got featured on the new sinnis website video, full clip on his yt chan- kzfaq.info/love/GQN3npFDegoIAROPsM4-2A As a parent the crash bars definitely appealed to me, he's had to change the rear tyre now and fitted a metzeler tourance which has been great. No issues really, I nick it off him now and then to go into work :)
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Great little bikes aren't they!
@chenderson4969 5 жыл бұрын
I do like the instrument cluster!
@dannyracer25 5 жыл бұрын
Good review tmf .thanks Danny
@wickedcoolname399 5 жыл бұрын
One of my considerations when buying a bike is resale value. I'm guessing a used Sinnis 125 would bring almost enough cash to buy lunch but not much more. But I could be wrong. These things may turn out to be super reliable and durable which would do wonders for their value.
@mototommy5525 4 жыл бұрын
I have 1 with 20000 miles in the clock and it doesn't miss a beat!
@simonmcgreevy9944 2 жыл бұрын
Really Interesting video. I've been very tempted to buy one as a commuter HOWEVER the servicing intervals/costs are crazy. I would be doing 6800 miles every year so I would need 6 services in the first year alone! That's about £550!!! Sinnis and other "cheaper" bike brands seem to be employing the same marketing strategy as Computer Printer Manufacturers and Mens Razors. (The initial purchase of the item is cheap but the subsequent cartridges/blades/services are where the real money is made! Yes, you could do the servicing yourself but to maintain the warranty during the first 2 years you gotta get it done at a dealer. There is no such thing as a free meal, as they say!
@scotteger6271 3 жыл бұрын
Being a 125cc air cooled single cylinder I seriously doubt there's much to go wrong. Despite their recommended service interval I'm sure you could service it less often and easy to do yourself (assuming it takes commonly available oil filters, or maybe it has an internal screen type filter...like a scooter).
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm sure you can....
@BigJock0 4 жыл бұрын
That's the bike I'll be doing my CBT on.
@SteveInskip 5 жыл бұрын
Linking brakes is not for me as I use loads of back brake in rainy/slippy conditions and as little front as possible. Id say that was more dangerous. Ok if you need a cheap bike for commuting on flat roads. That young geezer in the Hovis advert would still be pushing that thing up the hill! 😉😉
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Before my time.... ;0)
@henrya3530 5 жыл бұрын
The linked brakes on the Terrain 125 work really well, especially on ice/snow/mud. I had no problems getting up (and down) twisty 1:4 inclines in the Trough of Bowland :-)
@Yelwas 5 жыл бұрын
Good review Mr TMF if I might add, I noted it had hazard lights, that has to be a plus, my G310GS is sadly lacking them. You are always saying you love small capacity bikes, but don't have one (the Honda is more off road) I have gone down that route, from powerfull top end sports bikes to a CT50 and G310GS so far not missing the pocket rockets.
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Well I count my CRF as my small cap bike (and coincidentally it’s also possibly the most fun!)
@simongoddard8490 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your small bike comment. After years of big bikes my new CRF250l is like rediscovering biking. After buying mainly for commuting i now use it for everything and dont see that changing. The question is what to do with my Triumph Thunderbird that i genuinely believed was a keeper? Those Sinnis service intervals though? Jeez makes a CRF450l look reasonable. Hoping that is on your list to test?
@stephenhadley2490 5 жыл бұрын
Lets hope you held up a white van on the motorway. I like this style of review you do, no interest in this bike but you’ve thought it through and it’s quite entertaining.
@FuchsiaShock 5 жыл бұрын
Been to Cornwall and back on mine, 5hrs each way. Did 76mph at one point :o
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one Justin!
@fazer12779 5 жыл бұрын
Which upright sport/commuter bikes have quickshifter gearboxes (clutchless gear changes)?
@jimbothejetset 5 жыл бұрын
The display sweep to 199 looks a tad ambitious. Too many compromises overall to make sense compared to Japanese fare.
@texrex4580 5 жыл бұрын
Hi MF, great review as always. I'm not sure if you mentioned the fuel economy of this bike. It's surely one of the strongest value features of these smaller engines. Apologies if I missed it. Finally, the camera used for the internal shots is focus hunting far more often than it should be given the stable lighting and minimal movement. Mabe time to invest in something more stable or consider changing the settings. Great work as always on your review, it's surely the most comprehensive and professional of any on-line video reviews. The bike manufacturers should consider offering you a role in their social media marketing efforts.
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
...I can think of few things worse!! :0)
@shaneweightman 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if they will change the link brakes , now we are not in the e u ?
@brettcunningham7812 2 жыл бұрын
Hi the CBF125 won’t run with the side stand down but you get used to it
@kevindaly5093 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly enjoyed this surprisingly lengthy review for a small capacity Asian import. That said I'm perplexed why a motorcycle you describe as an adventure bike, the name of which is "Terrain", was not at all ridden by off road. You even showed us how to wash it but there was no dirt on it. Tell me there's a Part 3 when the Terrain will actually see some terrain.
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
:0)
@loki1066 5 жыл бұрын
Went in to Krazy horse customs yesterday, lots of exotic, expensive stuff but the Fantic 250 enduro casa caught my eye, 28 bhp , only 104kg and not too pricey. Thought it might be right up your straza 😉
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
...indeed they are - would like a go on one....
@eskimo427 5 жыл бұрын
If this could be tuned to do 70 up hill I'd buy one. Great review, thanks.
@Destide 5 жыл бұрын
For the cost of a power commander and tune you'd be better of getting a used weestrom or Wr250/125
@ianburg9905 4 жыл бұрын
If you add the Toro exhaust supplied and fitted on new Terrain bikes by Sinnis, it adds 1hp to the power output and lets the engine breath a bit better. Top speed seems to be around 65mph on bikes with the Toro as you can see from other KZfaq videos. Also don't forget, you need to get a couple of thousand miles on the clock to let the engine loosen up and properly conform before it produces full power.
@loki1066 5 жыл бұрын
The remarkable thing about the Chinese is their ability to listen to what people want and present a very attractive package at a good price. The service intervals are a bit steep - they may well be in line with Peugeot scooters, but you'd expect to do a few more miles on a bike than on a scoot. ( unless it's a big ole scoot)
@sharpbends 5 жыл бұрын
1st :-) Nice bike, although linking the rear brake to the front brake is a terrible idea.
@canturgan 5 жыл бұрын
Moto Guzzi had that system in the 70s and it was good. They also had a separate front disc brake as well.
@sharpbends 5 жыл бұрын
@@canturgan Yes I almost bought a 850 Le Mans II at the time ( until the financing fell through and I lost my deposit ! ) I don't mind linking front brake to a bit of rear brake on a larger road bike but not rear brake to the front on a small adventure bike that might be ridden offroad, if you can dial in the braking balance it might be ok...
@nicomonkeyboy 5 жыл бұрын
That's a smart Waitrose.
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Aren’t they all??
@alexsheriff3234 5 жыл бұрын
I didn’t think anything below 250cc was allowed on a M road. Iv done it myself many years ago and it’s not fun on a 125. Brilliant video as always 👌
@gordonLP 5 жыл бұрын
Highway code rule 253 says minimum cc is 50cc for a motorcycle.
@alexsheriff3234 5 жыл бұрын
Gordon Waltham ahh I must be wrong then!
@colindixon1541 5 жыл бұрын
What you might be getting confused with is no learner plates allowed on a motorway.
@Roub-Will 4 жыл бұрын
Grabby is such a great technical term
@scottmitchell6371 5 жыл бұрын
If they made a 250 or 300 and improved those panniers they'd make a killing!
@diegocella6791 5 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with the fake Vario case? They are hilarious!!!! The materialization of Cinesata!!!!
@Dan-fd8pd 5 жыл бұрын
They're bringing a 380 cc version of this some are testing it now
@jamiewebb3637 5 жыл бұрын
I'm torn between getting one of these or some sort of supermoto 🤔🤔
@andrewmillard5326 4 жыл бұрын
Yes got Bridgestone road tyres no good off road though.
@therealunclevanya 5 жыл бұрын
CST tyres is probably Cheng Sheng Tyres who made the nylon trailies on my Suzuki TS100 back in the 70s, they were famously hydrophobic 😁
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Oops! :0)
@therealunclevanya 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrKdr500 you clearly never rode Cheng Sheng tyres, they felt worse than nylon
@geoffhalsey2184 5 жыл бұрын
It was standard practice in the 70's to dump the tyres that came with Japanese bikes. Unfortunately , I didn't know then and ended up chucking the bike up the road the first time it rained. Now they are brilliant. I've got Bridgestone T30 Evos on my ST1100 and they've transform the handling of a pretty weighty bike.
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