Dynasty Warriors - Top 10 Rivalries

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The Nightowl

The Nightowl

Күн бұрын

Counting down the top10 rivalries within the Dynasty Warriors/Three Kingdoms period. These are my picks of the 10 most prevalent rivalries within the game, let me know what you think down below!
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@dylanwoodward5256
@dylanwoodward5256 Жыл бұрын
I always felt like Koei had trouble with Ma Chao when it came to Wang Yi. He wants revenge and tries to kill Cao Cao a number of times claiming its justice, but acts like Wang is unreasonable in her desire for vengeance to kill him. Did they really want him to seem like an egotistical villian???
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
Yeah Im not sure lol but hopefully they buildon it cause both characters need more content. Ma Chao had one cutscene in DW9, crazy
@ShadowOfCicero
@ShadowOfCicero 3 ай бұрын
The only way it works is if you claim Ma Chao as a legitimate authority but Cao Cao as an illegitimate one. Accepting this premise, Cao Cao's actions were atrocities, while Ma Chao's merely necessary evils. That's probably giving it far more thought than they gave it. I think they bet everything on "Green man good, blue man evil," and hoped you didn't dig deeper.
@Banditlord52
@Banditlord52 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's my problem with Ma Chao. He comes off as a massive hypocrite as he's basically hating Cao Cao for destroying his village, but he did the same thing to Wang Yi's village, too. Doesn't help that I can't tell if Koei intended this or not because they barely touch on the subject.
@ShadowOfCicero
@ShadowOfCicero 2 ай бұрын
Having now read most of ROTK, the secret sauce is... the Girdle Edict. The Emperor had ordered Cao Cao's assassination, and Ma Teng, among others, had answered the call. Cao Cao used treachery to strike first. So Ma Chao is simply finishing what his father started, while Wang Yi has defied the will of the Emperor by siding with Cao Cao as the enemy of her enemy.
@djblue056
@djblue056 Жыл бұрын
Love your content! I always felt like Lu Bu against the three brothers should be on here somewhere. I know it’s too much to ask but I always wished Koei would flesh out more of these like they did with the number 1, 2, and 3 on your list. But I know nowadays that’s impossible. There’s way too many characters in the series now. Now it’s pretty much kingdom based. I liked having new characters but I always was disappointed that it came at the cost of fleshing out more characters. I’d love to see Ma Chao having a conversation with Zhao Yun about Wang Yi. In earlier games they did a lot of that.
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel this 100% I think there are enough characters and the story is pretty well done, they just need to now develop the underdevelop characters along with their relationship dynamics and parts in the story, respectively. And they've added lots of fictional elements so as long as it isnt anything that deviates to far away from the story or characters, im game for any and all improvements for the underdeveloped characters
@djblue056
@djblue056 Жыл бұрын
@@TheNightowlGaming preach! Hopefully 10 does that for us whenever it comes out
@ShadowOfCicero
@ShadowOfCicero 3 ай бұрын
But then they would have to admit what Ma Chao did: took hostages to try to force a rival's surrender and killed them when it didn't work. "Hello. My name is Wang Yi. You killed my son. Prepare to die."
@nathanhamrick1757
@nathanhamrick1757 Жыл бұрын
NightOwl I love the work that you do because it connects me to my childhood. The music, the characters, the stories; thank you for bringing my past back with your videos!
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words!!! 🙏
@thane3186
@thane3186 10 ай бұрын
One rivalry that I believe a lot of people tend to overlook was Cao Pi vs. Sun Quan, maybe not as much in the early DW games but after they made Cao Pi playable in DW5. You get to see how similar in status they are within their kingdoms, mostly during the last series of battles for Wu. They attempt to lead their home kingdom with very different ideals. Sun Quan values and shows appreciation for his dad’s motivation and ideology, while Cao Pi disregards Cao Cao’s, with him stating so right off the bat. Plus their wives Zhenji and Lianshi also duel one another throughout the games. Wouldn’t say that this is the most significant rivalry but Cao Pi basically became the “final boss” for Wu’s story in battles like Dongkou (222) and sometimes He Fei Castle (234).
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming 10 ай бұрын
I can definitely see that and potentially a good honorable mention for sure
@smproductionswrestling3667
@smproductionswrestling3667 Жыл бұрын
Great list again dude! There are two (friendly) rivalries I kinda wish the games touch on more though. And they basically haven't touch on them at all since DW4. (I'm not sure if it was in DW9 or not cause I've played and watched very little of it) And those are Huang Zhong vs Guan Yu and Ma Chao vs Zhang Fei. Both these duos dueled eachother and was the reason for both Huang Zhong and Ma Chao joining Liu Bei in the end. I love that in DW4 some battles have some kind of unique dialogue for these two pairs interacting. I recall playing Ma Chao at Tong Gate once and Zhang Fei (for some reason) showed up as reinforcements with Pang Tong (which is pretty weird in context but anyways) and Zhang Fei would say something like "What's wrong Ma Chao? You're tired already?" or something like that LOL. The games also don't touch on Zhang Fei's duel with Ma Chao anymore, in DW4 at Liu Bei's campaign for Chengdu if you play as someone else and let the AIs of Zhang Fei and Ma Chao fight for a while(and yes, they are scripted to meet eachother in battle) there were lines of them acknowledging eachother as great fighters as well. Even in some of the made up stages for the Others characters like in "Campaign against Liu Bei, once you beat Guan Yu, Huang Zhong shows up for revenge and if you beat Zhang Fei, Ma Chao shows up. Which is honestly pretty darn cool. There are a few cutscenes with Guan Yu and Huang Zhong in DW7 but outside of those they don't really interact very often. I hope they bring these up more in future games, it would give even more of a sense bond and respect between these Shu officers and really make them feel like they're actually a team. Comparing these characters to ones in Wei and Wu and they feel very weak and pretty unrelated. I mean in DW8XL Yu Jin and Pang De have unique dialogues praising eachother despite they don't even have that much to do with eachother outside of Fan Castle. Yet we get basically nothing for those Shu officers and I've always find that pretty funny. XD
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
What an interesting read, appreciate the love! Yeah I totally agree, I read that Ma Chao and Zhang Fei dueled and talked about it in both his video and the strongest DW vid. It would be cool if they expanded on the relationship dynamics between most of the characters and really flesh and really well bonding kind of moment for the characters for the game. I talked about it with someone else in another comment, but 100% agree there's so much more they can flesh out with the characters and their relationships with one another
@tonys9397
@tonys9397 5 ай бұрын
I was just about to mention this. Ofc it also because 4 was the best game (only partially kidding)
@thewayweallgo2614
@thewayweallgo2614 Жыл бұрын
Impressive work, I think you can put everyone who dueled at the end of the DW7 like Zhang Fei/Lu Bu, Taishi Ci/Sun Ce, Jiang Wei/Deng Ai along with others in honorable mentions.
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words! and I 100% agree
@proxythefool
@proxythefool Жыл бұрын
Wow it's crazy that this was recommended to me. I've never played a Dynasty Warriors game before, but I'm considering it. As someone who is recently becoming more interested in historical Chinese wars and the historical fantasy genre in general, but isn't a fan of the more simple minded hack and slash gameplay of DW, is it worth getting into this series?
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
Wow thats amazing that this was recommended to you, so cool to hear! I think the best game to play would be Dynasty Warriors 8 Extreme Legends: Complete Edition. Now I havent played it personally yet cause I dont own it, but its probably the best dynasty warriors game to date because it has both historical and hypothetical routes you can take along with some extra content and dialogue for some of the others (dont quote me 100% on that, but from comments I've read that seems to be the case). So glad you clicked on the video, hope you enjoyed it!
@oceanvibes9701
@oceanvibes9701 Жыл бұрын
I agree with these! Great video once again my guy🔥🔥
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it so much!
@michaelbandada8330
@michaelbandada8330 Жыл бұрын
The Top Three Rivalries in the Dynasty Warriors Series Cao Cao vs Liu Bei- these two guys have different ideologies which made them go against each other every time they face off in the battlefield. Even though Wu is part of the Three Kingdoms, it’s Wei and Shu Han who always try to beat the living crap out of each other and their respective hypothetical routes in Dynasty Warriors 8 depict the final battle between Liu Bei and Cao Cao Zhuge Liang vs Sima Yi- a clash of brilliance between two men who are intellectualy dominant with both of them trying to outsmart each other and neither man wants to be overshadowed by the other Guan Yu vs Xiahou Dun- the two of them are always at each other’s throats with Xiahou Dun showing jealousy towards Guan Yu due to Cao Cao’s obsession towards him and despite not being involved in Guan Yu’s fall at Fan Castle in both real life and in Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Xiahou Dun doesn’t give a crap, all he wants is to kill Guan Yu, period!
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
Couldnt have said it better myself, glad to see agreeance on the top 3 😁
@michaelbandada8330
@michaelbandada8330 Жыл бұрын
@@TheNightowlGaming Cao Cao and Liu Bei are two men who are completely opposite of each other and they are destined to be rivals, fighting for total control of the land with Wu stuck in the middle like a third wheel in the Wei-Shu Han feud although if Sun Ce didn’t get killed way too soon, he wouldn’t like the idea of being considered the third wheel and he would try to pick a fight with both Cao Cao and Liu Bei in order to establish his kingdom’s supremacy Cao Cao: You are a threat to my ambition, Liu Bei! You either acknowledge my authority or get crushed! Liu Bei: I shall not let your power hungry ways compromise the lives of the people here in this land! I shall create a land where everyone are able to live peacefully without being harassed by war! Cao Cao: Your silly idealism will get you killed one of these days, Liu Bei! Sun Ce: SHADDUP! We are sick and tired of you guys making this whole conflict centered on the two of you! You know what, I challenge you both to a fight! Cao Cao, Liu Bei and Sun Ce, a three way battle to secure total control of China! Bring it on, losers!
@drasticmeasures4136
@drasticmeasures4136 6 ай бұрын
I don’t hate Xiahou Dun but this rivalry is what makes me dislike him. His disdain makes him unlikable to me, his personality just aint it. Still love the rivalry though, Guan Yu just for being a living legend alone barely even acknowledging that himself made so many enemies
@NoelJohnCarlo
@NoelJohnCarlo Ай бұрын
​@@michaelbandada8330 HAHAHAHA!!! I read that with DW6-DW8 English Voices! XD
@Azzaroni
@Azzaroni Жыл бұрын
Such a good video 🔥
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
Yezzzirrrr
@tommydixon4871
@tommydixon4871 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video and my favorites rivals in dynasty warriors are sima yi the sleeping dragon the battle they with insight is so famous
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words and totally agree!
@tommydixon4871
@tommydixon4871 Жыл бұрын
@@TheNightowlGaming anytime and dynasty warriors will always be my favorite game ❤️
@leonardostevensen77
@leonardostevensen77 Жыл бұрын
i can only imagined if zhuge liang and sima yi or zhou yu playing chess with each other😂
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
lol it would be like that arc from Hunter x Hunter but yeah it'd be interesting lol
@CoachSMETAGaming
@CoachSMETAGaming Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥
@rlgb3945
@rlgb3945 Жыл бұрын
I’m making a prediction before I even watch this whole thing. If it’s not Simi Yi & Zhuge Liang or Guan Yu & Dun this list is a lie & flawed
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
They were 2 and 3! Liu Bei and Cao Cao are the only ones that have such a strong, direct confrontation that also 100% acknowledge as not only threats but worthy rivals of talent. Hope that makes sense, Osu!
@michaelbandada8330
@michaelbandada8330 Жыл бұрын
@@TheNightowlGaming Romance of the Three Kingdoms aka The Conflict Between Cao Cao and Liu Bei with Wu and Other Dudes Stuck in Between
@missxmettastars5740
@missxmettastars5740 Жыл бұрын
I really like your videos XD So yeah ofc my the rivals are funny Cao and Yuan Zhang and Gan Dun and Guan ( he really hates guan yu) XD
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the kind words so much!
@uraninezak
@uraninezak Жыл бұрын
This one was pretty meh in the first half but I like the top 5. I would've reordered it a bit, but I like them.
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
Interesting 👀 I appreciate it! 😁
@uraninezak
@uraninezak Жыл бұрын
@@TheNightowlGaming I think you're favorite rivalries are influenced hard by when you jumped into the series. I never cared for Huang Zhong and Xiahou Yuan until DW7. However, since DW6, the Cao Cao and Sima Yi dynamic is great
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
@@uraninezak Oh yeah I could see that, but I didnt include that because DW7 and on, Sima Yi is more of a loyal retainer then someone of opposition to Cao Cao. He actually seems to respect Cao Cao and Cao Pi for what they''ve built and the vision they had for the land :)
@Blahto_realToto
@Blahto_realToto 21 күн бұрын
Xu You and Zhang He vs the rest of Yuan Shao's incompetent officers xD Lu Bu and whoever he was serving xD There's some kind of mutual dislike between Gao Shun and Chen Gong. Cao Pi and Cao Zhi, actually might be one sided on Cao Pi's side.
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming 16 күн бұрын
haha some good ones yeah
@gk2370
@gk2370 20 күн бұрын
Some of my favourite rivalries not mentioned in the video. Sun Ce vs Taishi Ci = even though it's more of a one time moment, it's one of my favourite rivalries because of the mutual respect they have for one another. Deng Ai vs Jiang Wei = I always enjoyed that one
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming 16 күн бұрын
deng ai vs jiang wei was a good one, but the way Deng is portrayed in the games he doesnt seem to acknowledge it, in the novel for sure htough
@karabomafa5609
@karabomafa5609 Жыл бұрын
Wang Yi vs MA Chao should be number 1..just off the basis of Wang Yi's pure hatred for the guy 😂
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@cooperblackwell1392
@cooperblackwell1392 Жыл бұрын
Except Ma Chao is literally thanos in end game “I don’t even know who you are”
@djn6962
@djn6962 17 күн бұрын
Another good rivalry that is shared within a single kingdom is Deng Ai vs Zhong Hui. I don’t know that it is more prominent than anything on your list, as it doesn’t get fleshed out quite as well. Probably an honorable mention at best.
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming 16 күн бұрын
Deng Ai in the games also seems to not really acknowledge it, seems very oblivious to it
@djn6962
@djn6962 16 күн бұрын
@@TheNightowlGamingthat is pretty true. I guess it was more a historical/novelized rivalry, less reflected in the games. Probably to make Zhong Hui come off more as an annoyance people just tolerate haha
@storymaker2021
@storymaker2021 6 ай бұрын
Lu Bu vs Zhao Yun
@TheKingofAndrosica
@TheKingofAndrosica 8 ай бұрын
I agree with you
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming 8 ай бұрын
😎🔥
@bramp3914
@bramp3914 Жыл бұрын
On Mata Nui, I learned that no one stood alone. On Metru Nui, I learned that actions, not fate, defined a hero. On Voya Nui, I learned what it means to be determined, to face your fears. On Mahri Nui, I learned what sacrifice truly means. On Karda Nui, I learned to never give up, even in the darkest hour. On Bara Magna, I learned that anyone, anywhere, can be a hero. United in Duty, Bound in Destiny. That is the way of the Bionicle.
@dantles
@dantles Жыл бұрын
here is 2 interesting things, first one xiahou dun was not even soldier, he was politician and second one xiahou dun is favorite character of DW game creator, imagine that
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
Yup super interesting, its probably because he is the creators favorite he made him more badass than he ever was, which im not complaining!
@dantles
@dantles Жыл бұрын
@@TheNightowlGaming yeah I haven't seen anyone that don't like him, xiahou dun is popular character
@karabomafa5609
@karabomafa5609 Жыл бұрын
I think people make the mistake of referencing historical documents and forget that Dynasty Warriors is mostly based off the fictional Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel
@ninjareema9803
@ninjareema9803 15 күн бұрын
My fav is ling ton vs ganing And I respect Sima yi vs zhuge liang Zhu ran vs lu xun
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming 14 күн бұрын
some good ones!
@tonys9397
@tonys9397 5 ай бұрын
For a few friendly ones from the book Pang Tong and Zhuge Liang both studied with Sima hui and the tv series implies Pang Tong got himself killed to prove he was better Huang Zhong and Guan Yu they duel and earn each others respect
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming 5 ай бұрын
Oh nice! I can appreciate the nice ones
@allenaju1856
@allenaju1856 18 күн бұрын
With the new Dynasty Warriors Origins we might see character development and characteristics change. The new game looks like a revive for the game.
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming 15 күн бұрын
definitely looks interesting!
@michaelay4900
@michaelay4900 Жыл бұрын
Taishi Ci VS Sun Ce deserve a shout
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
I could see the argument for it, but the rivalry didnt last very long haha
@dokuganryu1565
@dokuganryu1565 4 ай бұрын
Maybe for Top 10 Bromances. I'd add to that "Sun Ce and Zhou You" and "Sun Quan and Zhou Tai"
@nigartarikh4354
@nigartarikh4354 Жыл бұрын
Cao Pi VS Sun Quan
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
Yeah thats a good one!
@JoobyMcGee
@JoobyMcGee 8 ай бұрын
I apologize in advance but am I crazy or did Koei deliberately make a few of Wang Yi lines sound like she's straddling the line between wanting to kill him and wanting to F**k him. I genuinely don't mean to sound creepy, but some of her lines straight up sound like she's getting off on the idea of kill him. I'm not crazy am i? Someone else hears it too, right?
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming 8 ай бұрын
Definitely teetering that line lol
@iangenuine
@iangenuine Жыл бұрын
Do an armies video
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
Top 10 armies? what do you mean like factions? Kingdoms?
@danielgaines9935
@danielgaines9935 4 ай бұрын
The books go into more detail about Zhou Yu and Kongming. Kongming makes him look pathetic many times over.
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming 4 ай бұрын
thats tough
@TheKingofAndrosica
@TheKingofAndrosica 8 ай бұрын
Lubu and Dong Bai
@charlesfarley28
@charlesfarley28 Жыл бұрын
I dig your stuff but man does "I think it's a solid choice for the spot." get old after hearing it on each and every entry.
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
True true, they're comfort filler words when I record audio for the vids, working on it, appreciate it tho 🤙
@cubemaster2007
@cubemaster2007 Жыл бұрын
Kinda shocked they didnt ship Ma Chao and Wang Yi, when it first popped up, i thought thats where it was going but nope. Disappointed sadly
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming Жыл бұрын
Yeah they really should build on it, I talk about it in both of their analysis videos that Ma Chao doesn't seem to notice this woman is trying to kill him intensely lol
@FnRenner
@FnRenner 8 күн бұрын
#1 should be Guan Yu VS life
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming 4 күн бұрын
Haha nicee
@animathehallowed1380
@animathehallowed1380 13 күн бұрын
OK, I’m just starting the video. If Gan Ning and Ling Tong ain’t #1 this entire ranking is invalid.
@animathehallowed1380
@animathehallowed1380 13 күн бұрын
Whattttttt, #4? No way
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming 13 күн бұрын
👀😁
@danielbudiono7232
@danielbudiono7232 10 ай бұрын
ma chao vs cao cao should not be on the list because of how one sided it is.
@TheNightowlGaming
@TheNightowlGaming 10 ай бұрын
I guess I could see that, what would it be replaced with?
@rlgb3945
@rlgb3945 Жыл бұрын
No I don’t agree
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