Our Horribly Unpopular Watch Opinions (Rolex, Tudor, JLC).

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Unpopular watch opinions? We got em! Step right up and let's get unpopular! Today the boys are diving into some juicy hot gos we've heard in the watch world. What do you think? Is Tudor more boring than Rolex or are they both boring? Is JLC a mall watch? Do watches without bezels look like Michael's forehead?!
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@dorningarts Жыл бұрын

I almost spit my coffee out when you were describing the people who wear Richard Mille, priceless!

@dariag505 Жыл бұрын

haha - funny, specially coming from a couple of petit men who get off on wearing 34mm watches and doing curls with 10lb dumbbells. that said - don’t disagree with their judgement. old fat guy with no richard milly

@rmoore6858 Жыл бұрын

If they do a best of 2022, that clip should be in it!

@jeanlefranc3817 Жыл бұрын

Richard Mille is the exact definition of Nouveaux Riches in watch world. And that’s a good thing, because it draws a clear line between Old Money (non Genta Pateks) and Nouveaux Riches.

@jeanlefranc3817 Жыл бұрын

I will go with my own favorite unpopular opinion : Genta inspired (non round bezel, integrated bracelets) watches are ugly and should disappear. They are ugly because : 1) Style from the 40’s and the 50’s was 20th century acme. It only went downhill from there 2) they are symbols of the 1970’s (and 80’s) which will be remembered as the time when the Western World had a stroke and never recovered. Nothing to celebrate about.

@NCSheriff7 10 ай бұрын

The People that are complaining about RM wearers are also the one hating on rolex and them owners, because they cant afford or get one.

@dooks85 Жыл бұрын

I was at a wedding wearing a 39mm royal oak. Someone else at the wedding was wearing a modded steel cased casioak. We were talking about the design for a few minutes throughout the wedding and how cool we both thought the shape of the watch was. I admired his casioak and he never noticed that mine was similar but different. Nor did it matter for me to tell him. I like the design of the RO more than the name itself. I thought it was interesting that casio sort of integrated the RO design and that people wearing it have no idea where the design came from. 😃

@timeisahumanconstruct9251 Жыл бұрын

pure class, my friend!

@radiospank Жыл бұрын

as much as i like casio, I woulda pointed it out just not to flex but just to educate which i think is fine too

@navboi12 Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure people interested enough are clued up on where the 'casioak' draws design inspiration.

@logantidwell8226 Жыл бұрын

RM really just is Hublot for people who need an even more expensive gaudy status symbol. Sure, there's a certain amount of impressive technology built into them, but the most important feature of any RM is it's price tag.

@dragus7033 Жыл бұрын

I feel like I’m the only person on earth who wants one only because of the engineering and design 😂. It almost turns me off from them, since if I ever did get one, people would all think the only point was to flex. Hublot is trash because they put 200$ movements in $30k watches. But RM design every single part down to the tiniest screws from scratch for every watch, it’s mind blowing IMO.

@sultanofmultan2012 Жыл бұрын

What color is your Bugatti?

@tyarnold4088 7 ай бұрын

@@sultanofmultan2012my Bugatti is red Andrew.

@brandonchaseyaraghi Жыл бұрын

just so you know.. you should never do shows without one another.. this is a great duo

@spa2damax Жыл бұрын

Michael's own KZfaq is one of my favourites

@TuTran-kr2yk Жыл бұрын

@@spa2damax lol I dont even watch it for the contents, I just like this personality

@anthonyjackson31 Жыл бұрын

100%

@BilHager Жыл бұрын

A JLC Polaris looks like a mall watch in the same way that a submariner looks like an invicta , a Patek looks like a DW, or how the Beatles sound like the monkees. Don’t confuse the originals with the copies.

@walkerb1734 Жыл бұрын

I own and daily wear a JLC Geophysic 1958. It’s simple, minimalistic, and not ostentatious in any way. You could easily confuse that for a ‘mall watch’ in spite of it being a heavy hitter from a horology perspective. Remember, something doesn’t have to be all iced out to be extreme quality

@andrewbridger4826 Жыл бұрын

My daily is a Polaris and the Geophysic 1958 is the next JLC I want to buy, love that watch

@danelmer4306 Жыл бұрын

That's a beautiful watch. A watch says a lot about one's personality. I prefer subtle substance myself as well.

@oysterman962 Жыл бұрын

People who make the comment that JLC looks like a mall watch obviously is a newbie to the hobby. They've never held a real handmade timepiece. You could make the same comment about all of Patek dress watches without knowing the quality. Geez there are a lot of ignorant people out there.

@loweewolwed9834 Жыл бұрын

A watch collecting cycle is never really complete without a JLC. My next one will therefore be the Reverso Medium Manual. A watch that simply epitomizes class.

@LlyleHunter Жыл бұрын

Bovet and NOMOS are two watchmakers that I can think of with signature watches that have no bezels and some digital watches haven’t any.

@tehb1726 Жыл бұрын

junghaus also

@andyt6819 Жыл бұрын

I have came full circle on Theo and Harris, loved it when I first got into watches then didn’t. Now I enjoy the positive energy

@derekeboyd Жыл бұрын

When Tudor does exciting stuff it's always weird, like the North Flag and and the P-01.

@1inchlegendaka.icebrrg156 Жыл бұрын

The Grand Seiko SBGA413 also doesnt really have a bezel just a very raised crystal

@kahuhipajae4088 Жыл бұрын

Another great show guys. Christian that Cartier looks amazing on ya. Pure Classss

@stevelangsdorf7307 Жыл бұрын

When I was in sales I learned early on not to judge anyone by anything, especially there watch. Once you form an opinion based on something so trivial you have loss all sence of direction .

@nerychristian 9 ай бұрын

But I think that having good taste in watches shows that you are an intelligent and thoughtful person.

@vintageswiss9096 Жыл бұрын

I own a BB P01 and I absolutely love it. It's a legit tank of a watch, and I've never met someone else wearing one. I bump into people wearing a Rolex when I'm wearing my DJ and it boils down to "what dial do you have?..." I love the uniqueness of my P01.

@danchapman5944 Жыл бұрын

Whether an unpopular take or not, here in the UK, this is my favourite watch channel of 2022. Merry Xmas guys…

@dragus7033 Жыл бұрын

With the IWC point, I think this sort of happens with other things outside of watches too. Often the innovator of something doesn’t end up being the most famous, so while an IWC may look like some cheaper design, it’s actually that the cheaper watch took the design from IWC. People see the mall watch first, then the IWC, and assume the order they discovered them in is the same as the order in which they were designed. Very interesting to talk about for sure.

@MrNeeHee Жыл бұрын

Grand Seiko Seasons collection is a good example of a watch with no bezel

@Judah.Rosenthal Жыл бұрын

Thought same. But honestly that case is both classic and unique. I love them.

@kurtnunn6116 Жыл бұрын

Some Zenith El Primero models, Heuer Carrera chronos reissues (160 year Ann.) have minimal bezels, which I love. The dome crystal distorting the perimeter is a look I prefer

@markrhode5069 Жыл бұрын

Watch without a bezel, Jung Hans Max Bill.

@DealerIgnition Жыл бұрын

Great example! Less is More. When true Bauhaus design is executed…anything is possible 👏

@dibs6579 Жыл бұрын

I made that insta comment!! 😂😂. Was a great convo and cool to hear my comment you boys are the best !

@jameskwon7617 Жыл бұрын

Ressence has no bezel. Some Sinns have no bezel. If you are making a distinction between case bezel and an internal bezel, AP Code 11.59s have no case bezel (I guess they have an internal one, although I wonder if that is more a rehaut).

@WallaceNine Жыл бұрын

No Bezel Watch Examples: Grand Seiko Four Seasons SBGA413 and SBGA415 with 62GS case that has bezel-free construction.

@aaronmichael1022 Жыл бұрын

A lot of the cheap/mall watches base their designs on high end brands. Does that make all high end watches "mall watches?"

@markrhode5069 Жыл бұрын

Tudor just introduced watches with silver cases and bronze cases. That doesn’t sound boring to me.

@doperdr Жыл бұрын

it is because bronze watches were introduced 12 years back and silver watches are centuries old. but i get it, for you watches dont exist beyond rolex and tudor 🤣

@elefantrising Жыл бұрын

@@doperdr you forgot opened case backs :)

@doperdr Жыл бұрын

@@elefantrising wow so exciting. never saw such watches.

@tyarnold4088 7 ай бұрын

@@doperdrwhat watch brands do you wear?

@doperdr 7 ай бұрын

@@tyarnold4088 before answering i would like to know why you ask

@SimRacingEnthusiastJakub Жыл бұрын

Guys, I love Your videos! Can I suggest one thing? Can You move text from Michael face to maybe one of lower corners? I think the difference will be noticible :)

@424dsfdsfdsfs Жыл бұрын

JLC Master Control looks unbelievably expensive in reality. You just realize immediately this is a luxury watch. My own experience when I noticed one on my female bosses arm, was not into watches at all at the time.

@Bourne1984 Жыл бұрын

Which one of you two is the Tudor and who is the Rolex? Incidentally I just today bought a 34mm JLC MUT from 2005, it’s incredible with the exhibition case back and the hand finished ultra thin 849 movement which is another level of amazing. Great vid as always guys, you have such great chemistry. Happy Christmas

@Henrik2000 Жыл бұрын

The Grand Seiko 62GS is a good example of watches without a bezel.

@Burton82190 Жыл бұрын

The first thing I thought of when you said watches with no bezels was Ressence, but I think most all of them look really great.

@Judah.Rosenthal Жыл бұрын

I really shouldn’t like these videos as much as I do. Theo and Harris brand / personality has grown quite a bit over the past few years but still feels genuine.

@supremegalacticcommander2783 Жыл бұрын

My vintage Seiko 6139-8020 Speedtimer doesn’t have a bezel and it’s are why I think it looks so cool.

@marcog.3488 Жыл бұрын

I agree with most opinions but the RM one. Tbf, at a much lower scale, I personally own and wear a Cartier Tank, a 36mm Explorer 1, and a "CasiOak" depending on what I'm wearing or where I'm going. Who says a person that wear a RM one day can't wear a Daydate 36 the next day and a Santos the next one? I think we are quick to judge a person that wears a RM because they're expensive and very "in your face" watches, but maybe for that person it's just their "fun" summer watch and they have much classier understaded pieces in their collection. Who knows :)

@tyarnold4088 7 ай бұрын

Of course your right. They are just making content. You have to read between the lines.

@benjamindinunzio8687 8 ай бұрын

What do you think of the bulova curv 2 all grey as the handsome alternative to RM?

@knight0924 Жыл бұрын

I liked the old transition music! The one you’re using now is the same that fratello uses Also, would you say the Nomos club campus has no bezel?

@AndyMccllgh Жыл бұрын

Ressence has some watches (maybe most/all?) without bezels. It does look a little off but their design integrates better than most others!

@KLucero22 Жыл бұрын

Grand Seiko 62GS case has no bezel but it’s beautiful imo

@sway101 Жыл бұрын

You just described the only guy I know personally, who owns multiple RMs, 100% on the nose with that description! 😂

@marcozueblin3864 Жыл бұрын

in the years rolex has increasingly become flashy and ostentastious, a watch for soccer players, rappers, boxers, nouveau richies and tastless people (like richard mille, which is born for those peoples). tudor may be boring, but it's catching up with what rolex used to do and to be and what was the basic reason of its success in the past. i say this as a both tudor and rolex collector.

@Bisley1 Жыл бұрын

I agree. Prefer the sleekness of the 5 digit models over all of the newer 6 digit and ceramic bezel models (though the ceramic at least adds function / durability). And while the Datejusts still have nice cases and no maxicases, their fluted bezels and jubilée bracelets are just so flashy, that they remind me of jewelry

@nerychristian 9 ай бұрын

Kind of like Steinhart watches

@tyarnold4088 7 ай бұрын

You are describing the path of any successful luxury brand. Your overthinking the overall situation.

@nerychristian 7 ай бұрын

@@tyarnold4088 I prefer Grand Seikos. For around 4 grand, you can get a watch that is finished better than most luxury watches.

@jamesbwaterman Жыл бұрын

My favorite part of this discussion was when watches and cars actually DO matter because one's self IS one's brand. A residential real estate agent, for example really does need a nice car and watch to be taken seriously as a top professional. Also, these two hosts NEED to have nice watches and nice clothes to be taken seriously. I took a screenwriting class from one of the writers of Toy Story 2 and he said agents in Hollywood didn't take him seriously as a writer until he started dressing terribly for meetings. The industry's association with successful writers is that they live in sweatpants and don't shave. It's about meeting client's specific expectations of "professional".

@briefhumanhistory Жыл бұрын

I think excellent examples of round watches without bezels would be most things from Ressence ...

@williamwong1902 Жыл бұрын

Many dress watches don't have bezels. Are bezels required for sports and toll watches?

@Mall_Watch Жыл бұрын

No bezel is the only part of the case design of the audemars 11.59 that I don't like.. now since it's lack of bezel is one of the main apsects of the case you are stuck looking at when wearing it is a problem for me.

@MDSkai Жыл бұрын

I work with teenagers sometimes and it seems RMs are also popular with that crowd. Teenagers want a “Richard Milly”. Not sure if its just because song writers told them so, or they actually like the designs

@RunawayYe Жыл бұрын

If they say "Milly" you know it's cause they heard it in rap.

@DealerIgnition Жыл бұрын

The bezel works as the frame. Like how a picture frame completes a painting, a bezel finishes the watch.

@Propofol001 Жыл бұрын

I live in Miami, and going to Brickell City Centre I always laugh at RM cuz I just dislike their designs so much. I’m more of a Longines, omega, Tissot guy 😂 but you know what, I’m glad RM exist. They bring diversity to the watch crowd. They have these insane designs, much like Hublot and I’m happy for the variety they have brought into the watch world ❤️ there’s something for everyone and that’s the coolest thing ever to me

@jagejg7239 Жыл бұрын

I’d love to see a design critique of the Nordstrom Rack clearance section.

@swstein Жыл бұрын

This channel is the perfect reason why I would never pay for KZfaq premium. Even if you do, you still get minutes of ads half way through your video ..

@adamcrossfire4747 Жыл бұрын

JLC - It’s only when you get up close that you see how razor sharp the finishing is on both dial and movement. I do agree though that some of JLCs dials can be a little boring…the Master Ultra thin in white and blue are worlds apart….the blue dial version is incredible

@atthelord Жыл бұрын

so is the black version!

@Bisley1 Жыл бұрын

Personally I only really like the cream dial on the rose gold version of the ultra thin moon. Pertty, because it makes it twice as expensive. Well, the white dial is nice, but beside the cream one, it just lost for me

@lewisjones3345 Жыл бұрын

I saw someone wearing a white dial one out at the bar recently, and I thought it looked great.

@GeordsYouTube Жыл бұрын

Tudor is a Rolex without the hate

@canadianwatchmonkey3992 Жыл бұрын

No Bezel would be like NOMOS or Junghans Max Bill ( Bauhaus ) which happens to look amazing as I stare at my Nomos Orion having my morning coffee.

@brendanallen3759 Жыл бұрын

Watch without a bezel: Citizen Nighthawk gen 1. Looks huge and mineral crystal is a scratch magnet.

@mattlambert5079 Жыл бұрын

That commenter must think a G63 is “just a jeep.” 🥴

@andrewstone3502 Жыл бұрын

JLC a mall watch? Mall in downtown SF has a rolex AD so...... compliment.

@mrbkkt1 Жыл бұрын

62 GS Grand Seiko cases (winter, spring, etc.) all have no bezel. They do have a chapter ring however, which king of completes the look.

@justinfletcher7630 10 ай бұрын

The master ultra thin I think is absolutely perfect IDC I love that style

@DavisAB4 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely love getting this notification right in the morning!

@GoKnowhere Жыл бұрын

Junghans Maxbill Chronoscrope is a great looking watch without a bezel

@D0GG_ Жыл бұрын

Hahaha. I love that first joke, I watch these videos at 8 am.

@Lillee1969 Жыл бұрын

Junghans Max Bill - No Bezel, does not look weird at all guys (and practically any Bauhaus design watches)

@jamesmaze3841 Жыл бұрын

My Sinn Audi Design Circle Chronograph has no bezel and it's my daily wearer.

@MrAumbra Жыл бұрын

I understand I’m older and at at a certain level in my life so I don’t have to be as concerned with social standing but I disagree. My advice, don’t buy watches based on what other people think. Doesn’t really matter what “they” think. It matters what YOU think of it and how it makes you feel. That’s how I have built and continue to build out my collection. That’s what I’m handing down to my boys. Hopefully they remember the significance the piece had to me during my lifetime and it brings them enjoyment when they think of me.

@keyboardbw Жыл бұрын

So many watches without bezels: junghans, some Nomos models, Sinn 556, etc

@HSalamista Жыл бұрын

Watch without a bezel is e.g. Junghans Chronoghraph or a 3hander in a Bauhaus design with almost all glass and no steel around it.

@docfluty Жыл бұрын

Grand Seikos such as the SBGA413, SBGH271 and others don’t have bezels and look awesome.

@canadianwatchmonkey3992 Жыл бұрын

Also NOMOS After putting my comment I scrolled down and seen your reply. Great minds think a like

@docfluty Жыл бұрын

@@canadianwatchmonkey3992 I’m surprised they, of all watch KZfaqrs, didn’t think of them

@canadianwatchmonkey3992 Жыл бұрын

@@docfluty must have been a brain fart lol

@WestCoastAce27 Жыл бұрын

The 🤡 who made the JLC claim should have all their watches confiscated. Happy Xmas watch men!

@derekhoward5924 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely terrible take on the JLC ultra thin. That piece is absolutely class.

@dukes70 Жыл бұрын

GS 62GS case design doesn’t have a bezel. Ex is model SBGA413

@malekbatterjee9094 4 ай бұрын

Jaeger-Lecoultre is such an underrated brand and this is the hill I will die on. Saying that a cheaper watch could look like a more expensive one and thats why you're not buying it is ridiculous. Knock-offs are a thing for a reason. The mall watch looks like that because of the luxury watch, not the other way around.

@daniel_anthony_k 11 ай бұрын

Grand Seiko makes watches without bezels. Tag Heuer recently came out with the Glassbox Carrera that doesn't have a bezel.

@pjyothi6533 Жыл бұрын

I know you’ve been asked before but is that a Leoville Poyferre bottle behind you?

@anthonyjackson31 Жыл бұрын

LOLd so many times during this vid. 😂👏🏼

@loweewolwed9834 Жыл бұрын

Take away Tudors strong family ties to Rolex and only a handful of people would even look at them and disappearingly few could ever consider buying them.

@Hippie_Pa Жыл бұрын

What about the Aqua Terra? That watch looks great without a bezel

@fawaka6664 Жыл бұрын

Meister singer has some models without bezels like the Neo.. .. Looks great!!

@fawaka6664 Жыл бұрын

@OfficialTheoAndHarris Thx!!

@brunoulmkalns7187 Жыл бұрын

The round watch with out a bezel could be a grand seiko sbga 413

@jonhernandez1200 Жыл бұрын

Grand Seiko has watches with no bezel. Four seasons series as an example. CYS Historiador no bezel.

@PanditaP Жыл бұрын

Timex weekender has no bezel?

@ctrlplusg Жыл бұрын

Round watch without a bezel: Junghans Max Bill Chrono

@DC-wz9gp Жыл бұрын

Check out orient bambino for no bezel watch

@frank327 Жыл бұрын

For no bezel, what about the AP Code 11.59!

@rogerchandler9737 Жыл бұрын

"Kind of strong".......you guys got me right there......WOW :)

@Valera_Scotland Жыл бұрын

Hamilton khaki pilot pioneer has no bezel... great watch. And many casios!

@mrcom4359 Жыл бұрын

Caffeine isn't worth it. I quit for several months and found that I had more and better overall energy. The convenience is addictive (in addition to the actual addictive qualities). To be able to choose when you don't feel tired, and to be able to displace your need for sleep at times when sleep isn't as much of an option. The effectiveness wears off though, and you are left with less energy overall. I admit that I have found that other people have different experiences and that it is dependent on the person.

@chojinnppp Жыл бұрын

It sounds like you need a cup of coffee.

@zynetik Жыл бұрын

I’m autistic and have POTS. I need coffee to get rid of brain fog in the morning and to regulate my bloop pressure. Also high doses of caffeine make me VERY sleepy.

@mrcom4359 Жыл бұрын

@@chojinnppp Really all I'm trying to say here is that I need a cup of coffee.

@mrcom4359 Жыл бұрын

@@zynetik It makes me tired too when I have too much. That is cool though that you have found a way to make it work for you.

@SuperYova Жыл бұрын

Watch without a bezel example: Junghans Max Bill?

@thatpiffva9455 Жыл бұрын

I think Tudor 1926 has some texture on the dial 😊

@Molloy1951 Күн бұрын

Christian, one of the reasons why you didn’t get more popular is because you mostly talked to Michael, not to the camera , your audience. A little media training would have helped you a lot. Talk to the camera. Look in the eyes of your interlocutor.

@georghelpenstein-michels6586 Жыл бұрын

"Ooooh, you are wearing a Rolex." One Moron perceiving another Moron in a business surounding.

@chasekemp4982 Жыл бұрын

The Richard Mille comment was spot on😂

@chrishennemeyer7276 Жыл бұрын

I own a Tudor Date-Day with a white mosaic dial, so they do sometimes do "textures". But I'm afraid I agree that they are nonetheless a bit boring.

@loevhagen6984 Жыл бұрын

Grand Seiko 62GS case is without bezel...

@edwardmcardle Жыл бұрын

Grand seiko seasons are great looking watches without bezels

@russellalfonso2962 Жыл бұрын

Every watch has a bezel since it is the ring frame that holds the crystal in place

@JJ-po5eb Жыл бұрын

I would say Tudor needs to be more creative in there designs. They dropped the ball in their 58 launch after the blue. They had another opportunity with the Ranger and dropped the ball again. There’s a few watches they should not have releases and then doubled down on creative designs for a few core watches including bezel and dial colors/patterns. Imho.

@zh90604 Жыл бұрын

Loved this (paraphrasing) - If you don't act like an intern or don't want to be treated like an intern - don't dress like one. That's simple and brilliant!