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ooooh, maybe they're out somewhere on an oil rig far from the coast ?

Not really. In real life, America does have fallout shelters that were set up during the late 50s or early 60s by the Civil Defense. By and large, though, Citizens were encouraged to build their own fallout shelter so the government doesn't have to invest in it. But obviously, the government under Eisenhower would build the Whitespring Bunker and Raven Rock in the 50's in case of nuclear attack. I'm betting that in Metro's Universitie it was the same case. Which means Metro's America would be more lawless then Fallout's America.

And I'm the 76th like

@@someguy9293 i think he was messing around

I presume the interior. Wouldn't be shocked if American governmental command moved to somewhere like Wichita or Cheyenne.

Yeah they were targeted on the follow up strikes, they destroyed and then destroyed what was left

@lostonearth7856 maybe because they see how bad Russia and China fared and just thought they have zero way to retaliate again. Or it's just a local people taking control and not thinking about possible retaliation.

​@@joseavila5747idk about that, they are reports that they are still active surprising the russians. They still think that war is up since the interior of America is active even until exodus it still hinted that there are American cities up and running

@@joseavila5747that doesn’t make sense cause they said after the war lol

Wait so russia got screwed and China, but America was fine? Wtf

Saw it too, I assumed that's the reason why Russian high command in Moscow is scared since most of US is still active fearing follow up strikes

That was a lie propagated by The Unseen Observers to maintain control over the Metro.

Regardless with America's defences the worst that'll happen is the coastlines being hit by maybe a few rockets

@@generic_tough_guy.4830 that really depends on how many nukes were launched. No one, especially during 2013 had enough defences to stop hundreds or a thousand plus nukes.

Oh dear

@@concept5631 That would be one hell of a plot twist.

@@silentecho92able It would indeed

The enclave welcomed them they showed them they’re intentions these were the enclave members who were sent to Alaska the commanding officers there discovered Edens intentions and the FEV they betrayed the enclave and built the “United States of the enclave” the rangers discovered that people from Russia and Canada found Alaska and were recruited from the Alaskan enclave they were elite soldiers who were trained for freezing temperatures artyom and the rest brung some of the enclave members to the aurora to allow them to explore the Russian wastes… the Russian enclave expeditionary force returned with even more people… they spoke of horrid things like yamantou… and the dark city but they were happy to see people even if they were aggressive bandits… now polis and the Alaskan enclave were Allies and the alliance went to the oil rig where the war against edens enclave began… war war never changes

I heard that this enclave doesnt like commies.

or Australia turned into a utopia

@@Crimsomreaf5555 It already is

If it was untouched, it wouldn’t become a mad max wasteland.

Nah dude, that place is already a wasteland, they’ve already got mutated spiders and shi 😂

Fucking kangaroos.

I mean, it seems like a Moskva-level incident. If you need the strategic rocket forces as a Russian, we are all doomed anyway.

they reckon most nukes in the use arsenal (about 50%) are in disrepair. Can't imagine Russia's in 2013 would have been better.

​@@rear9259even 50% is enough to wipe earth off several times.

Don’t forget Russia has the deadman switch. It’s completely reasonable for Russia to launch missiles after being struck.

@@quintrapnell3605 the problem is even with dead man's switch does the systems factor some silos that is in state of repair or disrepair? Did it factor other launch areas got hit first and have the launch sequence neutralize or destroy?

That is honestly a decent argument for the sub being a 3rd party actor who nuked part of Russia to force the US and Russia to make split second decisions to launch or risk a full arsenal exchange on both sides, and the US opted for there is no way Russia won't blame us, and took the initiative.

​@@anvos658There's also the possibility of rogue actors and spies within the government of Russia and US launching the nukes and/or doing sabotage. Russia's failure to launch their nukes before the US might also due to ongoing diplomatic actions that were taken to stop full out nuclear war. I mean, Russia would have detected the US launch and plotted it's trajectory so the only question is why didn't they launch theirs in retaliation until US's nuke had crossed their airspace/literally detonated on their cities. So the sequence of events might be: 1) nukes we launched in the middle east 2) Both governments go into panic mode and start calling each other on what happen and what to do 3) Somehow, someone in US launches nukes to Russia which when detected, cause Russia to put their Army on standby until further confirmation 4) Panic in other world government 5) US communicated to Russia that the launch was a mistake and that they're trying to disarm/intercept the launched nukes (while probably under internal attack by rogue actors/spies) 6) Russia's government got paralyzed either due to sabotage, rogue actors or bio attack 7) By the time the nukes cross their airspace and assuming the chain of command in Russia has been restored, it's already too late so they launch their own nukes Not saying there's a hidden group operating behind the scene like Hydra but it's possible that in the chaos, the espionage assets of both countries were mobilised in an effort to gain further information on what really happened and along the way, cause an escalation in misunderstanding and sabotage action.

America is not a country, its a continent. Learn how to speak before doing it.

@@anvos658 Sebastian Shaw obviously did it. Dang mutants.

​@@anvos658it sounds like what a certain Battlefield 3 character would do...

I like it, they can also recreate the battle of Alamo with surviving American militia and remnants of police and national guard fought against the onslaught of the bloodthirsty Mexican empire. That will also be in theme with the metro theme of recreating history.

+@@sunshineskystar+ That could be like the Final Battle of the game that take place after a long quest down the coast and climaxes with the 8th Air Force unleashing a relentless bombing run and the reconstituted 1st Armored Divison encircles and annihilates the enemy.

I think that's actually fairly plausible, the one bit I would add is the potential of 3rd party groups (state governments, rogue military assets, religions groups) taking over and forming legitimate nation-states or warlord-states in some areas of the country. For example, the LDS church forming a new nation in Utah and the western Rockies, the State of Texas surviving mostly intact and doing ok, or a few divisions of the US army setting up a new military clique in Kentucky or something. Just a thought though, but I do like your ideas a lot.

So it was true that the gringos say a lot of stupidity. Product of your mental fantasies

@@rexwyatt3066Maybe we can have something kinda like the Monolith of STALKER.

It starts by Iran launching a missile at Israel, Israel retaliates, the someone starts firing missiles at both Israel and Iran from the Indian Ocean. That could be MAD in effect as Israeli and Iranian subs carry out their respective “Samson Option” protocol, or someone else joining in. At that point it turns into a general exchange.

@@richardsimms279 And it's pretty scary that something like that can happen any day. If one nuke gonna be used then high chance somebody gonna answer with another one and beacuse almost everyone is supporting somebody then we will have nuclear war (mostly of course between NATO, Russia and China).

​@@richardsimms279It would be Pakistan, they could be the ones who send the Nukes to the two nations. Either they launch it because of some recent dealings with Iran that are heard from the news.

@@warhammer8867 Consider: Chinese SSBN firing at a Caucasus country (Georgia or Azerbaijan), fallout spilling over into Georgia/Turkey which are NATO members, invoking Article 5 and a full-scale retaliation against China/Russia?

@@warhammer8867 Wouldn't Pakistan nuke India first?

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That might’ve been why it was so late that is a good reason

Yeah, the Russian operators would be extremely reluctant to srike untill they'd see american rockets hitting their own targets in Russia.

either nuclear reactor or using the stockpiles of coal and coal being mined to fuel generators.

It can also be radio signals, the subway has power and electricity but it is a different story.

@@darioestebaneliztrado4641 Wait, I read all 3 books like 5-6 times and played all 3 games 3-4 times, never heard about murican subway. This information is from some fan-novel right?

thing about the US is it's habitable coast to coast very easily. The entire north american continent for the most part except for the extreme north is very temperate. so if you lived away from the big big cities, and not near the nuclear missile fields in montana and the dakotas... the chances of surviving isn't that bad.

Bro is casually like 300 years old

@@trainknutit makes sense think about it the courier default character looks like the most generic American

AAAAAAND the courier makes snappy "I'll kill you all" one liners.

​@@trainknutCausally, you ever just come across a 300 year old guy survive a headshot?

Yes, but even then planners assumed the USSR counterstrike would also do untold damage in return, and likely they would see the nukes coming due to satellites and observations, and begin firing their own back.

Every nuclear scenario with first strike in mind by the power who does first strike is optimistic at best because they have the hope that the enemy gets destroyed before counter strike

@@voxpopuli7910 Exactly. the problem with the first strike idea is that, well your first strike still needs time to reach your enemy, in which time they will likely have detected your incoming barrage and well fire their own back as one last act of defiance.

​@@Historyfan476ADEven if it does, Nuclear submarines are able to operate for years unaided. I know both sides map each others submarine positions, but strategists and captains probably have plans to slip through cracks and counteract this. They could still come out after even if dead hand systems like Perimeter don't activate.

@@mspaintbesteditor9417 Exactly, the Nuclear Subs will last at least long enough to get their missiles off for a retaliation strike. What angers me is when people keep talking about first striking will win the war before the USSR or Russia could react back. This often now popping up very often due to the recent politics around Ukraine. To be honest with you this type of talk scares me, because it means some people don't want a nuclear or don't see the true danger in one beginning. They seem to be under some very fatal illusions like: Somehow shooting down all the Missiles, or magically all of Russia's will not work or fire. Or worse of all A US/NATO first strike will somehow eliminate the Russian threat of nukes before launch, be it this first strike be either aircraft and missile attacks or a nuclear strike. I think too many people are not aware of how Nuclear war would actually happen. We have some people who literally say the USA should just bomb or fire missiles at Russian nuclear assets to prevent them firing nukes, during the Ukraine war. None of these people understand that if you fire on a Nation's nuclear assets they will interpret that as a prelude attack on their nuclear capabilities , just before your main nuclear attack.

Sam's story could honestly be it's own entire game. That said I would like to see both.

@@trainknut yeah, the whole plot of the new Sam's game will be about him being astonished by the view of a flag with a two-headed bear at the center of San-Fran

More than Sam continuing story would be How Sam as a US Marine joined the spartans

Sams story was great!

There were many situations like that during cold war, other time station detected rockets flying from east of Soviet Union and workers of station were thinking that USA decided to start war and nuke Soviet Union, luckily worker of station decided that it was false alarm and he was right but if he decided to call Moscow and inform about "attack" then Soviet Union would probably nuke both USA and western Europe starting war.

Guess you've never heard the one about the USA going to DEFCON 1 over a flock of seagulls

Maybe they didn't want to doom millions of people and refused orders to launch, at least some of the people running the silos. There's probably multiple factors though.

99 red balloons go by

Able Archer was a different incident than the false launch indication. The former was in Soviet times…Andropov and his minions got the idea the exercise was a cover for a real attack, and refused to believe their spies who told them it was nonsense. Reagan was on a State visit to South Korea at the time, there is no way he’d be that far from CONUS if a first strike was even being contemplated. The false alarm was post Soviet, when Yeltsin was President. The Norwegians launched a science experiment and the Russians mistook it for a missile, even though they were notified the launch was taking place well before.

Definitely with a US using the first strike option. If Soviet middle defenses aren’t put up in time or some of them unfortunately don’t work it, then it would explain why the Soviet Unions retaliation was far less grand considering the US doctrine targets strategic assets predominantly other known nuclear silos and places of government power. Thus giving the US ample time to prepare ICBM countermeasures to do deal with any remaining nuclear response. But some would eventually get through and hit major population centers such as the east and west coasts

The coasts would get hit, but actually the Midwest is the primary target, most nukes are targeting other nukes, so all the ICBM fields in the Midwest are the primary target.

​@@duitkYes. In a realistic scenario, the Midwest would likely be wiped out. Not to mention we have a lot of military installations.

@@kingtigertheheavy2708 yes, there are fallout maps from the cold war, that show the most fallout in the Midwest. I know fallout isn't quite as bad as the movies but the entire area would be utterly deadly for a out two weeks.

Watch Threads. After seeing that movie, I'd say Artiom and his friends are doing pretty good. Pretty fucking good. "Gib sum!"

I hope not. Metro setting is unique due to its post-soviet vibes that aren't represent much in western media. Tooking it out by moving setting into post-apocalyptic America sounds just really generic

@@Ocelot835 yea im still waiting if ever artyom and his mates will go back to Moscow and tell them the truth but what happens after that if they plan to make another story, as from the video shown apparently the US surface is safe for the most part and there are pockets of civilization but it would ruin the name metro I guess

@@nemo3029 I think best approach would be to discover what's going on in other post-soviet republics, especially those that had metro systems. Maybe make new protagonist in Kiyv or Minsk metro (both places actually have been explored in extended universe books although their canonicity are disputed), show how people live there and so on.

At that point it just becomes fallout

Nah, there are hundreds game with american protagonists and perspectives, leave Metro serie as is, please.

I do wonder what would happen to Arizona in this AU, we might've returned to a more medieval state using the canals for food, could be similar to how Egypt was for most of history, and I'd think We'd survive the mutants, maybe using gila monsters as a wall against em.

Rdr3 confirmed

Well, considering how big of a target Utah is in terms of nuclear war, I don't think the Rockies would be spared any less than other areas in the country

Well, Obama was President at the time…

trump lost goyper

@@guyuscoolius2326 What does trump have to do with a nuclear war in 2012?

@@thesteellegionnaire4570 there was a nuclear war in 2012?

@@guyuscoolius2326 It's a Metro 2033 video, what the hell do you think I'm talking about?

As an Alaskan can confirm the locations aren't really strategic, if we were to be nuked it would've been JBER/Anchorage itself and Eilson. Other than that it could be the ground based interceptors but I'm not sure as to where they are located. I've only lived in Anchorage after all.

@@weaselwolf8425 Probably nuclear silos were there in the Metro universe

during the Cold War the only major targets up here were the DEW line C&C, Anchorage, Fairbanks, and a few low KT yield tacticals aimed at airbases and such north of the Brooks Range. But considering the people making the game likely know little about Alaska or our population dispersion (hell, had three tourists over the past week ask if they could call the US from here, thinking Alaska was a foreign country) it's not surprising that they would have the targets in weird places

⁠@@BreandanOCiarraiI’ve never been to Alaska as I’m from the lower 48. But I think Alaska would make a cool setting for a metro/fallout game

As an Alaskan, I already was tormented by the bear in the taiga, I don’t want to do that again.

It may even improve things, like the enviorment.

Florida would've improved

Nah, we goin to Texas when the apocalypse hits

@@TheOmegaInitiativeDamm right 🤠

Arizonian here guess I’m dying but I live in a copper mine not like we’re much use.

Why was it when I was reading this my first thought was “elder statesmen George bush.”

while the nations of the world not hit by nuclear strikes would survive they would be facing starvation/ strife & possible societal collapse. most countries cant sustain their population without trade which in the metro universe is effectively gone.

Not really. Many of those countries (like India) which are major powers are quite self-reliant as far as food supplies and concerned and are in fact net exporters of several essential crops.

Even countries that weren’t hit by nukes would still be heavy effected in some capacity- The global economy is effectively annihilated, political & social unrest would ensue from the crisis, and the international order & geopolitics are irreparably changed.

As others mentioned many would economically collapse due to the global trade system falling apart. Irl if the US, China, or India were to collapse MANY nations would indirectly collapse with them.

Those countries would have to deal with the fallout, and if they managed to survive through that, they'll essentially be the new "superpowers" of the new era. My guess is that they're refraining from any contact with those that launched the nukes, likely because the sheer bad blood caused by the nuclear war.

And this was a common occurrence especially during the Cold War a lot of satellites would malfunction indicating nukes had been launches but in reality it was just an error

energy gun Ghoul etc

So basically just Fallout 1 and 2 but without the vaults.

@@abnerdoon4902 Or STALKER without Fantasy thing

people like you irritate me the most

Remember: Sam has canonically played Fallout 3

Oh hell nah, I ain't spending 10 hours walking from station to the next.

@@TheOmegaInitiative you don't want the full Dayz Metro experience?

@@tarkov666 DayZ Metro experience? Hm, I would play such a game, tbh.

Brb gonna go travel to America to see for myself

@@magicaltides283 Think you are going to be quite lost then....

i think no because metro war happed in 2013 fallout war happed in 1960s its different timeline

@@vixonvieeYou’re not wrong, but the Great War in Fallout happened at 2077.

@@LegoMyEgos sooo, he IS wrong actually.

I hate the Institute 😡

​@@TheOmegaInitiativebased

@@TheOmegaInitiative based

@@TheOmegaInitiative if you ever get the chance. Can you do a video of Texas in fallout that would be awesome 😊

Might be the British airbase on Ascension Island

Whoever created that map doesn’t have a clue about the world’s strategic forces. US ICBMs are going to come from ND and that area, or from sea. The rest were on bombers.

That last one is not very likely, such a strike would cripple the USA still, and in peace time the government is incompetent at rescue. Imagine post nuclear war.

No um money wont save you from radiation unless you are the rich class that can afford bunkers and endless food lol. Citizens are almost secondary completely they would have had the same reaction as the russians did trying to rush to safety and if we are talking about russian ICBM'S they carry like minitature warheads if you going from reality thats a lot of nukes for one icbm to launch in 1 volley since its 50 peices or so, very hard to shoot down even with patriots. But it is game lore so the government could have survived but many civillain infrastructures must be destroyed as you seen with that golden state bridge which is part of larges cities so many cities had to be targeted. Realisticly not even talking about the nuclear winter and the lack of many grains that can't be growned outside now. So alot becomes more like russia in metro with different factions, perhaps even cartel being around now more or so would not be suprising. However its strange in metro that china does nothing I guess we need more information.

​@@Historyfan476ADIf you think about it, every war after 1945 is a post nuclear war, just the nukes were on a lot smaller scale

@@kingtigertheheavy2708 Not really since no nuclear weapons were used.

@@Historyfan476AD You're actually wrong, look up the bombings of Nagasaki snd Hiroshima

It more appears that sub caused things to escalate to a brinksmanship, and it hitting Russia pushed the US over the edge to preemptive strike, assuming MAD would go into effect, so they might as well strike first to save as much of the USA as possible.

Nuclear winter would mess a lot up, even if you didn't get nuked a lot of nations would die.

The Midwest being a wasteland makes zero sense. Both the east and west coast of the US are the prime targets for a nuclear strike. The original 13 colonies and California would be wiped off the map. Everything else is just a waste of a missile as the vast majority of the country is sparsely inhabited.

That's the joke

The southern hemisphere would also experience a global winter and mass chaos and dying.

Except they didn't, the southern hemisphere already lived in poverty long before the war. The destruction of the world's economy means their economy and civilization are severely affected. All of them depend on the First world for technology and food, they will go back to the stone age even if they aren't nuked. Even just during corona a lot of third world countries suffer from starvation and crisis after the first world stops their donation.

Australia and New Zealand would get by fine. Hell billionaires are building bunkers in New Zealand right now.

@@Mirokuofnite it’s about being able to grow food. It all depends on the fallout. Plus Australia is a target for China.

Almost all of the south hemisphere would be caos, with the best chance of surviving would be Brazil, chile, Argentina and Uruguay wich they would pass from being democratic countries to being forced by the situation into military dictatorships

the missiles you see in Moscow are not ICBMs, they are Anti ballistic Missiles, they are meant to intercept incoming nukes and prevent them from detonating by destroying them in flight

Always have to be one guy critising Russia eith nothing to back it up 😂

Uh no? The ICBMs and overall all the Russian nuclear trifecta. It has to go through a bunch of check ups from the military chain of command. Which are only required if it’s a first strike, not a retaliation strike, like it is shown in the Metro Novels.

and if its not DFW likely its one of the many cities west of DFW maybe Abilene?

​@@areyouserious866I doubt it's either one. If it's Abilene than cities such as Odessa, Lubbock, Midland, San Angelo ect would've survived and even them that's questionable.

Dude it's just footage of the slightly modded Defcon game from 2006. I'm 110% sure it's a fake footage claimed to be associated with Metro franchise, or Metro devs were that lazy they recycled another game footage.

It would take more work to mod the game to look like that than it would to make that simple animation.

@@TheOmegaInitiative Not really, the game is ancient.

@@harryshuman9637it really doesn't matter, most that watched the video don't care about Metro, just wanted some entertainment

would the survivors from cayenne mountain be able to set up operations in that area ? something along the lines of CoG / military personnel organizing civil defense and other survivor's into an emergency government soon after the bombs fell?

Edwards is in Cali, So probably Luke AFB/ Holloman AFB in either state. It could also be the Los Alamos National Laboratory. Los Alamos is actually a point on the Triangle too.

Same. The meds from Metro just look like mini stimpaks. all the mutated beasts from either game would fit right in. The Geiger counter sound is like nearly the same. It’s head canon for me that Fallout and Metro are connected. It’d make even more sense cause if Russia was surprised at americas launch of the bomb it’s probably because Vault Tec are the ones who started everything. Just my opinion lol

If he admits he was wrong then his arguement for the Cheyenne Mts. being a possible triangle falls through in 13:14.

@@vonkasper7130 Ok

​​@@TheOmegaInitiativeI hope my comment didn't come across as negative or insulting, just wanted to add to the discussion. I really enjoy your videos and love the dedication and hardwork you put into them. I loved all ideas, speculation, theories, and the summaries you had in the video. I do think that the Cheyenne complex could definitely be used as some sort of post-war bunker for what remains of the USA's government and senior members of the military. Overall, great videos and I am excited to see what videos you have in store for us in the future!

@@dansemacabre9550 Nah it's fine, I just couldn't really tell what was what because I think the map proportions might be a little stretched.

@@TheOmegaInitiative Even stretched out the state lines are clearly drawn and the line barely if even touches Kansas. Omitting basic geography there is an app on your phone that could have cleared this up in 2 seconds but as @vonkasper7130 stated I guess it wouldn't have lined up with your Cheyenne theory. That sarcastic ok was not needed from a guy who cant be bothered to look at map.

Cool, Last Light is definitely my favourite story and atmosphere, however Exodus has great gameplay, so there's a lot to look forward to.

It's called Raven Rock Mountain 💀. But good point 😃

I'm not really a lore guy

I'm not gonna say it 😶. But we all know

@@TheOmegaInitiative Yep... 2 nations start with an I...

Best guess would be Israel and Iran, due to the different religious and social climates, plus the fact it doesn't really make sense that Israel would be attacked by Iraq since Iraq was and is under U.S. control atleast in our universe which kinda mirrors Metro's. Also, Israel and Iran hate eachother mainly over political, religious and social beliefs.

Correct. Compare the vid with a world map and its crystal clear who the initial players are.

Still got a Vermont Air National Guard Base over in Burlington some few dozen miles away.

Technically, the first strike wouldve been the biological weapons they deployed to kill off Russian leadership. They did this so that, as a first strike, the Russian Federation would be too slow to gather its forces and retaliate with nuclear weapons. While the Russians were scrambling to launch their nukes, the U.S. had already launched while the Russians were too slow to retaliate, leading to many of their missile silos being blown to hell and only so many nukes being launched. So there are two ways to strike, a countervalue strike or a counterforce strike. It seems in the Metro Universe, America chose catastrophe rather than tactical. Meaning, they chose to kill millions of civilians -- which would be vilified upon -- rather than tactically striking all of Russia's silos. Countervalue is the act of basically genociding civilians with any weapon whether its nuclear, biological or chemical. Counterforce is strictly attacking only military targets.

the jammer was jamming ALL long range frequencies. indicating it was scanning for them and blocking incoming and outgoing messages.

Yes, a radioman talks about how there were some sub commanders that fired their missiles and some that didn't.

Switzerland must have survived. They have enough bunkers for their entire population. Even in the present day, Switzerland is only now somewhat pivoting from neutrality because of Ukraine. Nuclear fallout has a hard time traveling over mountains.

Probably they would fall into chaos and anarchy and start war over resources and survival. With big players either out of picture or crippled there would be no world economy, no contracts or deals, no help etc. Survival of the fittest.

Yeah, but Texans are incompetent, they would fall in a jiffy.

Texan try not to jerk off your state challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)