What would happen if the Master from the original Fallout game was victorious in defeating the vault dweller and raiding vault 13?
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@James-mi5qt3 жыл бұрын
Imagine waking up as Mr House about 170 years after the bombs dropped, only to find out all of Vegas is filled with mutants.
@MidoriOfTheShuinsen3 жыл бұрын
"Oh, what the hell happened while I was out?!"
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I think he woke up before Fallout 1 takes place.
@demondeity98163 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I can't remember exactly but I thing he would basically slip in and out of consciousness for decades until he managed to roll back his systems to an earlier version. By that time vegas was already in ruin.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@demondeity9816 I'm pretty sure he fully woke up before Fallout 1 though.
@demondeity98163 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative maybe, but I have a feeling it was later. House mentioned that Vegas was inhabited by tribals when he work up and we didn't really see tribes forming up until fallout 2. (Edit) Forgot there were tribes in tactics
@LachroxGamer3 жыл бұрын
I love the irony with this ending in relation to the master's plans. The master wanted to unify people under a new race, but by becoming a threat to humanity, he's inadvertently unified everyone against him. He achieved his goal, just not the way he wanted.
@rbkdestroyer39292 жыл бұрын
👁👄👁👍
@Commrade-DOGE2 жыл бұрын
the master: I'm already a demon
@JoshuaPrime2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, that why I love the Fallout lore, there are so much endless possibilities which I think should be explored, great comment by the way
@tundcwe123 Жыл бұрын
And not as strong as he wanted. Master wanted everyone to unite to live better, not kill some mutants
@creatureman5636 Жыл бұрын
@@Commrade-DOGE 💎🐶
@dzmitrymarenich5003 жыл бұрын
An alternate history of alternate history. *Now* you're thinking with portals.
@Benjumanjo3 жыл бұрын
It’s amusing how fallout is what people in the 90s thought people in the 60s expected the year 2070 to be like, 50 years after a nuclear war, in a pulpy sci-fi Mad-Max anarchistic hellscape that slowly returns to civilization. And this time with more Hulk mutants and less humans.
@PretzelSage3 жыл бұрын
@@Benjumanjo such a crazy story its hard to believe it takes place on earth
@michaelweiske7024 ай бұрын
Hate to necro-post, but this isn't even alternate history. It's more like the alternate history of a possible future, based on an alternate history. It's a different past from the perspective of a different future based on a different past.
@blacknwhitegaming3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early the Enclave still had Raven Rock
God bless the encl-oh what the fu. Gets absolutely destroyed by a football nuke
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@aubergineman3299 Nuclear bunker designed to survive nuclear strikes: gets destroyed by glorified propane tanks Bethesda: makes sense
@ArroDime_3 жыл бұрын
A similar scenario could occur if vault 13 never had a problem with the water chip. In fallout 2 it’s mentioned in vault 8’s computer records that vault 8 was supplied with a surplus of water chips due to some kind of shipment error. If the water chips were distributed evenly between the vaults as intended then it could also result in this alternate history scenario.
@dinowizard02133 жыл бұрын
Isn’t that also why Vault 13 had 2 GECKs?
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@dinowizard0213 I remember vault 13 having 1 geck, but it was supposed to be vault 8's secondary geck.
@nern60053 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I think vault 13 has 2 gecks, the one they supposed to have and the second one the Vault 8 should have received
@VannMunson3 жыл бұрын
The thing is the Master sought out vault dwellers due to their status as "prime normals" who are completely untouched from radiation or trace exposure to FEV in the wasteland. Mutants made from this breed of humans are much much more capable and intelligent. It stands to reason if the water chip never broke the master wouldn't find the vault in time to give his army the strength it needs.
@UlyssesCrab3 жыл бұрын
@@VannMunson very true. If the water chip never gave out Jacorean wouldn’t have been sending other VD’s out either. So there’s less chance of someone else realising they had seen people with a 13 on their backs. Essentially if not for the water chip Vault 13 may have remained totally isolated and hidden.
@hunter24703 жыл бұрын
Mr House might wake up if the Master’s army entered Nevada. I believe he said the reason why he went online is because he detected the NCR entering Vegas and knew he had to greet them and show them he was not something they could just conquer.
@BelegornHK Жыл бұрын
the problem is House would really need to upgrade quickly as F his army since they are really underpowered against this kind of massive treat :s, the moment house lose this, is game over for Vegas, if House is able to upgrade his army, is game over for the master
@johnwatsoniv384 Жыл бұрын
@@BelegornHK if House were awoken due to an influx of mutants, chances are he could trick some of them into giving him the chip and helping him upgrade the securitrons without anyone ever knowing.
@Spicystachegamer Жыл бұрын
@@BelegornHKI don't know about that bt this point the master has conqueored a largee chunk of america and has been growing his army for over a century at this point. Its not gonnna just crumble justcause he gets the platinum chip.
@lordpumpkinhead265 Жыл бұрын
@@Spicystachegamer The Master's army wouldn't crumble, but having Mk. 2 Securitrons would make conquering Nevada an absolute nightmare. Assuming the securitrons are re-awakened at the Fort and are all upgraded to the Mk. 2 model, The Master would be stuck in a logistical hellhole as he has to deal with both the Brotherhood and the Enclave's alliance while their forces in the south have to fight off Securitrons armed with explosive ordinance, and lots of them. He could try to brute force House and his Securitrons, but it'd be extremely costly and would likely leave them vulnerable to an attack from an outside force such as the Enclave/BoS alliance. His best option would be to employ stealth and try to attack covertly, but The Master only has so many intelligent mutants at his disposal to carry out such attacks, and the Nightkin are unreliable at best. House, who would most likely have calculated all the odds if he can get a feel for the numbers on The Master's side, would expect either outcome and be prepared for each. It'd just be a bad situation in general for The Master when your enemy doesn't feel the loss of numbers that heavily and can repair itself mid-battle.
@trutwhut655011 ай бұрын
@@lordpumpkinhead265that's always what's so strong about house, his near infinite army that let's him feel minimal losses from long term wars.
@VarnasL3 жыл бұрын
One goal, one purpose, one people. Unity
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
We will not surrender
@skylordthe1st3 жыл бұрын
Enclave soldier: UNIFY THIS GREEN BASTERD *throws plasma grenade*
@ukaszzach85523 жыл бұрын
Your weapons can't hurt me puny human!
@skylordthe1st3 жыл бұрын
@@ukaszzach8552 Enclave soldier: ooh shit
@DWG_3 жыл бұрын
@@skylordthe1st *spins miningun with malicious intent*
@Sheogorath20773 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of a Enclave-Brotherhood alliance
@rhett50583 жыл бұрын
The reconciliation of the followers of Captain Rodger Maxon and the U.S. government. Healing a generation rift. Based
@Dripularstein3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that
@brnhmorrhage3 жыл бұрын
You can recruit the Enclave remnants and the Brotherhood if Steel to fight alongside you at the second battle of Hoover Dam.
@MrMadre3 жыл бұрын
It would never last though, when the BoS learn the enclaves mission they would stop the helping them. Unless they can convince the entire enclave that their mission is wrong
@Dakirran3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMadre I feel like they’d be able to convince some of them but not all turning it into a civil war within the enclave since not all of the enclave was bad
@szymonbollin50743 жыл бұрын
Enclave-Brotherhood Alliance just sounds so good for some reason
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Two most powerful factions
@szymonbollin50743 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative Yep
@MidoriOfTheShuinsen3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative add in the Institute for maximum hilarity.
@scarecrow_jones58553 жыл бұрын
Fuck it, one struggle
@szymonbollin50743 жыл бұрын
@@scarecrow_jones5855 No more brother wars!
@Zanelander3 жыл бұрын
Remember this, the Enclave have access to ICBM's and a space laser. There is no doubt in my mind they would end the world a second time.
@kang81712 жыл бұрын
Liberty prime
@freki35452 жыл бұрын
@@kang8171 liberty prime would die in less than a second to either one icbm or a single laser blast
@tostbutyoutube72042 жыл бұрын
@@freki3545 fun fact: The crawler at the enclave base in the airport was destroyed by what is quite seriously nukes, how the player survived even from that distance is a miracle
@flamingdeathbanana2 жыл бұрын
They'd also immediately start releasing Deathclaw slaves and probably start taking over strategic places like Big Mt and using their experimental weaponry.
@jakespacepiratee37402 жыл бұрын
@President Richardson Based in murdering innocents
@AImpatientMan3 жыл бұрын
The hopeful ending in a nutshell The master:your already a mutant, ready to join us Frank horrigan:time to die mutie The master and 5 other super mutants: *do 500 damage in a turn* Frank horrigan: *laughs* that tickled *one shots the master with his hands*
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Frank Horrigan wouldn't be born for another 60 years.
@AImpatientMan3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative comment was satire In all honesty, the master probably would of ran out of FEV before he could of found a way to fix the sterilization problem. The way it makes males sterile is fev will target every cell including the DNA when males reproduce. He would run out of fev, then dumb mutants, then the smart ones would probably disband/make a community when things hit the shitter. Once he runs out of FEV, its just going to be a slow death for the unity because even though they can't die of old age/rads/disease, whatever is in the wasteland will slowly pick them off
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@AImpatientMan He would also most likely figure out how to make more FEV before he runs out of it.
@Destroyer_V03 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative Unless the means to produce the chemicals in it's construction are, well. Nuked.
@Falloutlover10112 жыл бұрын
@@AImpatientMan I mean, there are other sources of FEV in the wasteland. Less refined versions, but I’m sure the Master would be able to improve upon them.
@chrisamon45513 жыл бұрын
I’ve thought about this too and also concluded that the Brotherhood and the Enclave would team up eventually to take on the Master, with the two groups either becoming staunch allies or maybe turning on each other after the common threat had been eliminated.
@Thagomizer3 жыл бұрын
The Brotherhood would be gone long before the Enclave would have been alerted to anything. If you play Fallout 1 with the mutant invasions enabled, the Master's armies destroy absolutely everything if you take too long.
@chrisamon45513 жыл бұрын
@@Thagomizer well yeah sure, eventually. But we don’t know how much of a time jump there is from the failure end of the game to the super mutant army storming into Maxson. And I’m pretty sure that at the time the plot to Fallout 1 was written, they didn’t even have a clear concept of the Enclave Oil Rig and the base at Navarro. I would say it would take a while for the Super Mutants to break in. It would be a siege. The Enclave Vertibirds would see that these power armored soldiers would some of the last people resisting the mutants and come in with guns blazing. Or not. The Emclave are dicks.
@Thagomizer3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisamon4551 There's already a pretty definitive answer to how long they would last. You're supposed to get the bad Brotherhood ending if the Master is still alive after 170 days. The mutants will also find Vault 13 in 500 days, or 400 if you happen to share its location with the water merchants in the Hub. Of course, they could find it a lot sooner if the Vault Dweller surrenders to the Lieutenant immediately after reaching Necropolis, so exactly how the Vault Dweller fails in this scenario is relevant, too. I just assumed we were trying to construct a timeline in which the Vault Dweller's influence is excised as much as possible.
@smegleymunroe8632 жыл бұрын
I think it’d analogous to the Brotherhood and NCR around the time of Fallout 2. They allied together to defeat the Enclave, but had no reason to tolerate each other once the common threat was eliminated
@purpleelemental39552 жыл бұрын
I believe that BoS will integrate in the Enclave that way
@poromafia3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone actually notes where on the timeline X-01sits and why we don't see it in older games.
@arcanegamer2723 Жыл бұрын
i mean cerano armor plating would have been a no brainer for prewar scientists to research aswell and with the enclaves research making it easier to maintain and manufacture then im actually amazed no one thought of it before fallout 4 to implement it even as a really rare suit
@sussinhardrn10483 ай бұрын
I mean, I always looked at it as just a renaming for the advanced power armor for the 3D fallout universe. Like, giving it a proper production model naming scheme, since it's a similar jump in technology as T45 to T51. Maybe it's something like T45A vs. T45D. T-XX denotes a baseline design, and sub designations represent improvements upon the baseline design. So, enclave armor from the older games could be thought of as just X-0, and the design iteration that is accepted as the baseline for full-scale production and deployment ends up being X-01. Again though, I feel like it was initially just done to refresh the naming scheme to something that was more in line with the other power armors.
@dundervevo68423 жыл бұрын
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@sussurus3 жыл бұрын
tell me about it, so fed up of all these youtubers with fake australian accents!
@mkepioneet3 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff. My thoughts were simply "well it doesn't matter since the Enclave will just genocide everyone in 80 years" before this, but you've given me more to think about
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
They need Mariposa to create the virus.
@Jsipki2653 жыл бұрын
This enclave isn’t as powerful as in fallout 2
@theylivewesleep.51393 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative well if the Master expands production then it won’t become hard, when the time comes, for the Enclave to covertly grab themselves some FEV. The only thing they’ll be missing is the test subjects like those from arroyo village (which won’t exist) and a control vault (which may be accessible).
@8vantor87 ай бұрын
@@theylivewesleep.5139 plenty of control vaults are around, just need to fly to one
@gratefulguy41305 ай бұрын
@@Jsipki265 We never got a true sense of how powerful the Enclave was originally meant to be. Or what they may have been capable of digging up. It's possible they could have had cells/other groups. Had abandoned bases they could re-activate with useful toys. Something like a stealth bomber with a bunker-buster doesn't sound too far out of the realm of possibility. I mean from a F2 lore creation standpoint, though. By the time things get handed off to Bethesda it's hard for me to really see it as canon.
@Axl43253 жыл бұрын
Now, depending on how badly the Enclave wants the FEV, they can also just drop some bombs on the main door so all the mutants inside die off and the Master loses access to the FEV. Or if they really want it yeah assault the base
@Jsipki2653 жыл бұрын
How would they have the man power to do that?
@Axl43253 жыл бұрын
@@Jsipki265 the manpower to drop bombs? They just needs 2 vertibirds to drive fast
@Jsipki2653 жыл бұрын
@@Axl4325 vertibirds don’t have that capability, no where it’s established that vertibirds have that capability. The only thing in fallout that can do that are submarine and bomber planes and I honestly don’t think they can attack the base by themselves
@humanperson44063 жыл бұрын
@@Jsipki265 dude, just drop a bomb off of the side of the vertibird
@Jsipki2653 жыл бұрын
@@humanperson4406 you do know the bomb would be shit, because they would need to count for the weight
@jonahhudson20523 жыл бұрын
"Because I think it'd be cool to see, we'll say Mariposa is heavily guarded by all the monstrosities that the FEV could create." Based.
@MyArchive9303 жыл бұрын
What is the NCR never existed? What if The Institute wasn’t real, but fear of the institute was?
@disastrousdwarf3 жыл бұрын
That second idea would certainly be interesting.
@Faux_Fox_3 жыл бұрын
@@disastrousdwarf yeah because it would mean fallout 4 wouldn’t exist, & therefore it would be better
@ls2000763 жыл бұрын
@@Faux_Fox_ OmegLUL not true POG
@mappingshaman52803 жыл бұрын
without the ncr there is no legion. Caesar was created by the NCR without the NCR he would have been shot whilst a kid by a raider, or maybe the followers wouldn't exist, either way no NCR = no Caesar.
@Przem7233 жыл бұрын
@@mappingshaman5280 I think that considering Caesar's potential he would've become a leader of another fraction or he find a different way to leave his mark on wastelands.
@maximus47653 жыл бұрын
I personally think it'd be interesting if the calculator's robots fought the institute, or even 4's mechanist, but I think their means of production would be too far apart from one another to reach eachother effectively.
@garythemilkman44423 жыл бұрын
I forgot about thr calculator Seem pretty op, robots on land and sky even in the ground Also forgot the BOS has tanks
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
The Calculators' robots were op as hell, they would crush the Institute.
@maximus47653 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative even with teleporting? who am I kidding I'd be rooting for the calculator.
@jakespacepiratee37402 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative Can they get inside? I doubt it. Plus the Calculator could not handle a team of 5 members of a disorganized Brotherhood Chapter.
@jakespacepiratee37402 жыл бұрын
@@maximus4765 The Calculator probably isnt canon, and wanted to kill all Humans on the surface.
@MurdochMMQCR3 жыл бұрын
>Unity arrives in Washington >LIBERTY PRIME, ONLINE
@adliala89873 жыл бұрын
Yeah and also not to mention Frank Horrigan, Enclave, Mr. House would probably wake up and send his securitrons, etc.
@LordCrate-du8zm3 ай бұрын
I'm imagining the Unity patrolling through Washington when they suddenly hear the Warlord Titan warhorn sfx and see a VERY angry Liberty Prime stomping towards them.
@NCR_vet_ranger23473 ай бұрын
Remember how the brother hood never got liberty prime online (up and moving)
@NCR_vet_ranger23473 ай бұрын
Without the players help
@captainsinclair79543 жыл бұрын
That’s an interesting “what if” scenario… The Enclave and The Brotherhood fighting side by side… now that is a crazy scenario I wish we could get a game set in. Mind if I do some thinking? I imagine that The Enclave, now that the Super Mutant threat is greatly diminished, would begin slowly folding themselves into the Brotherhood to replace the BOS losses. This would not only allow the Brotherhood to go on the offensive, but make sure The Enclave can have their foot in the door, so to say. Assuming Enclave personnel rise the ranks fast enough, it’s possible The Elders may be exiled from the Brotherhood by the Enclave, as the Brotherhood is rebranded the “US Army, LA Division.” From there, The Enclave begins rebuilding the city using their superior technology, and slowly make their way North, conquering the last few settlements (some bloodless) while exterminating the last of the Super Mutants. They also repair infrastructure as they go, setting up safer trade routes, activating SkyNet, and ultimately Liberate the states of California, Oregon, and Washington. From there… isn’t it obvious? Move East, retaking Cheyenne Mountain, Vegas, Dallas, New Orleans, Miami, Charlotte, Atlanta… eventually, the whole of America is Liberated, with roughly 40% of all infrastructure rebuilt. I say 40% because the Enclave would need to tear apart the crumbled buildings to make new ones… and they would focus on restoring the Railroads, as those can allow for faster transit of resources than by foot, and would serve as the primary mode of transit for the everyday Americans. Vertibird bases and airports would still be repaired, but used solely by the Politicians and Military until the factory situation catches up. I also believe that they would focus on railroads so heavily due to America’s history with Manifest Destiny. The people went out into the wilderness with horse trains, followed by *railroads,* with cars and planes coming waaaay later due to the technology catching up.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Yes I do mind, I demand you unthink that. I really didn't think about all the little details of rebuilding after the master was defeated, but most of this seems like it could happen.
@bruhtonbruhkkinson68483 жыл бұрын
Why would the Enclave fold themselves into the BoS? I find it infinitely more likely some *BoS bunkers* join up with the Enclave and we end up with skirmishes and a Cold War scenario, a thin veneer of stability and cooperation allowing them to rebuild the West Coast. Rather than the Enclave disbanding themselves and refilling BoS lost numbers. So you have a similar situation to OTL in Hoover Dam, the BoS forming a Republic with mixed Enclave response - unable to send their best troops in case war breaks out with Enclave who still claim to be the true America.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@bruhtonbruhkkinson6848 I could see it as possibility that if the Brotherhood is resistant to join the Enclave, they may infiltrate the Brotherhood and work on making it more pro-Enclave until they eventually do join the Enclave, whatever method, the Enclave will be the dominant faction.
@A_Moustached_Sock3 жыл бұрын
@@bruhtonbruhkkinson6848 If going by the setting of Fallout 1 there arent any other BoS bunkers besides Lost Hills (I am not counting 76) Lost Hills was it. BoS didnt wind up having more bunkers until after The Masters defeat when they began their expansion becoming the R&D powerhouse thats in the canon post Fallout 1 ending
@phantomaviator13183 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative dude I want a fallout manifest destiny game now
@dylanbecerra41792 жыл бұрын
We need another mutant threat to the Fallout series. Having your main enemy be a monstrosity and knowing losing will result in humanity being mutated is a freaky thing to think about. I'd love to have that eeriness in the game again. Fallout 4/76 just seemed too "hopeful" Seeing a rogue AI would be a cool idea too (I'm looking at you Calculator)
@alyssarasmussen1723 Жыл бұрын
ikr.. the master comes back but as an AI lmao
@CoffeePotato3 жыл бұрын
So now someone needs to make an XCOM mod where you're fighting the Master's Army as the Enclave.
@dabbingraccoons64163 ай бұрын
That would be sick
@glitchmeisterz39473 жыл бұрын
The enclave and fallout 4's chapter of the brotherhood would definitely team up against the institute if given the option and if needed.
@longshot2919813 жыл бұрын
I hope that if they ever make a sequel to New Vegas it's the brotherhood of steel from the capital wasteland rolling in to California and Nevada with the full force with the giant blimp and everything to get revenge against the NCR and Caesar's legion and everybody else who has done the brotherhood of steel wrong in California.
@longshot2919812 жыл бұрын
@@thepreacher7399 the BOS is obviously producing weapons of war as well in the capital wasteland and they have a large stock pile of enclave technology and equipment, a giant robot. And as we saw in fallout 4, they send in scouting parties first. They would be prepared and probably hit key targets as they came rolling in a kind of shock and awe movement. Plus I would imagine that the NCR took some time to recoup from the war with the legion.
@kang81712 жыл бұрын
@@longshot291981 that makes no sense, they would not travel across the country to fight the NCR.
@ZeonicFenrir3 жыл бұрын
One big problem with this video: we don’t need to speculate on what would have happened in FO1 and its factions in the case of the victory of the unity, as cut content found in the game’s files tell us precisely this outcome: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mdOqhtmi2rjQZH0.html Simply put, the Boneyard, Necropolis, Hub Junktown, Shady Sands and even Lost Hills are wiped out in the following order after the start of the game: Bone Yard - 90 days Necropolis- 110 days Hub - 140 days Lost Hills - 170 days Junktown - 210 days Shady Sands - 230 days Vault 13 - 500 days (400 days if water caravans are hired, which provide the location earlier to the Super Mutants). Most of the population is wiped out, with the exception of the BoS, where you find a single surviving Paladin outside the bunker, who says that a few scouting parties and patrolling Paladins were away at the time of the attack, but so few of them are left that at this point “the Brotherhood is dead”. The video also includes the corresponding ending slides for these groups and a few details, such as the Super Mutants capturing the BoS advanced weapons, but taking a long time to figure how to use them due to their low intelligence. Also, the raiders do manage to pull themselves together and continue their activities. So basically, no BoS, no NCR, raiders do survive and the Super Mutants slowly learn how to use the BoS hi-tech weapons. On the other hand, it would be interesting to know what the Master would eventually do if he later figured out on his own that Super Mutants can’t reproduce.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I think this still offers a different perspective, as the vault dweller is captured, the unity takes control of vault 13 first and the Master starts full scale war with the rest of the wasteland.
@bjorntrollgesicht11443 жыл бұрын
Cool detail, didn't know about it. Though I agree with some comments there, that a full on slaughter of every living human is not the best piece of writing and does not fit very well with the Master himself who wanted to uplift, rather than obliterate what remained of humanity. "The rest would be allowed to live out their days under Unity control and protection." Going through with the genocide would make a genuinely relatable villain into just another Saturday cartoon one and made the Master much less than what he was. Besides, I'm having serious doubts about the capability of the Unity to organize, deploy, transport and coordinate (with so few smart mutants) a force large enough to take on Lost Hills first without notice, and second without any sort of reaction from BoS fighting on their home turf with short supply lines and godly training. I also find it doubtful if Mariposa had larger weapon stores than Lost Hills and that the Unity would be able to commit as much resources to the attack, due to them being stretched between different objectives and locations. Also nobody talks about the upkeep of an overwhelmingly large mutant army, which must have been gargantuan by wasteland standards! So no, I doubt that BoS would lose. Oh, and after destroying either Mariposa or Cathedral, the timer should stop, as either would destroy the Unity's combat capability. I'd ignore that completely- it's just too unfinished and leaves too many questions and plot holes.
@Kombine_Tmod2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I'd love this video alot more if it actually delved into the canon Mutant ending that was cut from the game aswell as go into Super Mutant politics like the Enclave videos instead of just being shafted for an Enclave and BoS alliance
@tundcwe123 Жыл бұрын
I still don't know why Master couldn't just keep some humans to do more humans to turn into supermutants, that was my first thought when I knew that supermutants can't reproduce.
@Kombine_Tmod Жыл бұрын
@@tundcwe123 Yeah, just have some breeding farms like with cattle to make more humans. Though that does possibly lead to inbreeding if there aren't enough humans, and I'm not sure how that is effected by the FEV.
@GravitasMor3 жыл бұрын
I want to hear more of these Fallout Alternate History/Universes
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
OK
@theentirestateofalaska.49832 жыл бұрын
OK
@richardnixon18932 жыл бұрын
OK
@themaskan70412 жыл бұрын
OK
@hydrogenone68663 жыл бұрын
That would be an interesting ending.
@chavezchavo3 жыл бұрын
Or, the Enclave can just infect the entire Wasteland's water supply that kills all mutants..
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
They used the FEV to do that, so to get the FEV they would have to assault the base anyway. Not to mention the Enclave would be decades from conceiving that plan and most likely wouldn't know that the FEV had the capability to accomplish that.
@toastertoaster6703 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative They’d definitely know. The Pre-War government knew that FEV could be used as a deadly toxin, so they would too
@mileshostetler24693 жыл бұрын
@@toastertoaster670 they might not want to
@Todarain3 жыл бұрын
@@mileshostetler2469 I'd assume they would want to even more now that the mainland is *actually* filled with mutants.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@toastertoaster670 Source? As far as I know, there was no knowledge of it's ability to be used as a toxin, in fact much of the FEV's capabilities weren't fully understood, it was quite an anomaly.
@socialrock5663 жыл бұрын
The Algorithm is being generous with me rn
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Yes, praise be the all mighty Susan.
@renthm66753 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the Aftermath of a Enclave-Brotherhood Victory where the Enclave might eventually try to use Gene therapy or something like that to try to repair the damaged genes from Radiation. Would be nice to see it, probably wouldn't happen but imo a nice idea.
@patrioticwhitemail91193 жыл бұрын
Na. The Enclave could never be good. The developers are too politically biased to ever show mccarthyism in a good light. If they did team up with the brotherhood, the Enclave would betray them at the last stretch like cartoon villains and trip on their nose immediately after.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@patrioticwhitemail9119 It smells like 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐦 in here
@Slender_Man_1863 жыл бұрын
I could see the Enclave and Brotherhood genuinely teaming up, one is just the post war US government, the other is made up of US Army deserters. Both are elitist, have similar origins, similar goals, a reliance on tech, a love for their power armor, and neither could care about some wastrels trying to survive.
@Slender_Man_1863 жыл бұрын
@@patrioticwhitemail9119 you act like anyone in Fallout is a good guy (besides Bethesda’s Fallout 3 rendition of the Brotherhood, or the Minutemen in Fallout 4). In Fallout 2, the Enclave were really only a shade greyer than the Brotherhood, a faction which at least gives you the courtesy of a “f**k off” before they blow you away with their advanced weapons.
@patrioticwhitemail91193 жыл бұрын
@@Slender_Man_186 bad writing. If a DM railroaded my options like fallout's writing does, he'd go on a message board cringe story compilation.
@realpatriot17693 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a really cool reddit thread where the OP explored what would happen in the future games if the Master had won. Some highlights i remember were House-BOS alliance, the formation of a new Enclave government in DC after their retreat from the West Coast, and the Enclave encountering the Institute.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
But none of the following games would happen if the master won in Fallout 1.
@Commrade-DOGE3 жыл бұрын
Could you link me this thread?
@Spicystachegamer Жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiativefallout 4 would still happen arguebly since there so far away from new california.
@DWG_3 жыл бұрын
If this did happen and the brotherhood and enclave took over the US together, would they become 2 separate political party's or would they be entirely separate? If so I can imagine the brotherhood not wanting to invade china while the enclave does, thus creating in-fighting
@TheHacknor3 жыл бұрын
I just don't see the Encalve working with the brotherhood, at best they're mutants and worse they are traitors to the government in their eyes
@DWG_3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHacknor but they might have too, even the enclave sees that the brotherhood is the best option they have, there better than every faction other than big house but it would take em a while to talk to each other
@Jsipki2653 жыл бұрын
@@DWG_ I think house would get fucked by the master’s army
@DWG_3 жыл бұрын
@@Jsipki265(I'm useing the fallout new Vegas stats here) some variants of super mutants are more powerful than the bots, such as the nightkin master and beserker, but if we go with the endings that best benefit Mr house and the master then here's 2 problems, mr house owns the dam and with enough time could most likely produce an even bigger army than before(maybe even build a mIII Os), but the master would have to send a lot of mutants scouting for more people, also consider the fact that the mutants aren't very smart, yes the vault 13 mutants are but there still dumber than usual, there's also the fact that Mr house is a genius while the master is well... And Mr house could command his army instantly if he so chose.
@Jsipki2653 жыл бұрын
@@DWG_ 1. We see that usually when a mutant is leading a unit it’s smarter than the rest 2. Mr house wouldn’t have those resources anyway since he couldn’t possibly find the platinum chip with the help of people helping and since most towns are converted into super mutants, it’s going to be nigh impossible
@BBBHuey3 жыл бұрын
When Fallout 4 dlc's came out, I had hopes for a Mutation Workshop. Similar to the Vault-Tec Workshop dlc, it would have a mission setting. You would start with Strong or a random Super Mutant asking you to help them. Because the Super Mutants of the Commonwealth were the results of the Institute experimenting on FEV, the Super Mutants lack the means to re-produce. They would ask the Sole Survivor to become their new leader by taking over the town of West Everett Estates from Hammer. Once done, you become the new Master tasked to eliminate the rival Mutant Bosses around the map and bring more mutants under your rule. Even capturing humans for slave labor, food or as new mutants. And if you have access to the Institute, you'd be tasked to retrieve tanks of the FEV stored in the abandoned section of Bio Science. With the FEV, you would gain access to the Mutant Workbench. Much like the Robot Workbench, the Mutant Workbench gives you the means to create or become your own mutant creature; Super Mutant, Ghoul etc.
@justadumbyoutubecommenter37652 жыл бұрын
i doubt that you'd become a mutant/the master 2.0 yourself but rather become leader of a children of the cathedral type organization
@alyssarasmussen1723 Жыл бұрын
quick somebody write that down
@lightningii73053 жыл бұрын
Your content keeps me from stubbing my toe, keep it up man
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how that works, but I will.
@kmatford3 жыл бұрын
I definitely want more alternative fallout history you sir have earned my sub.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
No problem sir
@iplyrunescape3053 жыл бұрын
based pfp
@kmatford3 жыл бұрын
@@iplyrunescape305 a man of culture
@SmallBeanImperialist3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, but here are a couple of points that could change your conclusion. 1) Limited growth of Unity. Mutants are sterile because of FEV, it's likely only real manpower expansion would be capturing new humans or farming them. Capturing new humans would be possible up to a certain point until the effects of military attrition would be felt. Farming people and then turning them into mutants, would work under exponential law i.e. incredibly slow at the start. In real-world developing nations population grows at 3-4% yearly and this is with proper medicine and food, and not in a radioactive wasteland. Considering a low mutation success rate, it would mean that initial force growth would be very slow. This is confirmed in Fallout universe as it took master about 50 years to make a dozen or so mutants. All this means that mutant forces are weakest at the start and only grow stronger, but this growth works on a long enough scale. Where Unity forces would have a real problem is with officers. In-universe mostly prime mortals would be smart enough to lead any tactical unit, the average mutant is quite dumb. Without officers, it would be just a huge bunch of orks that could be destroyed by any proper military units very fast. Even basic concentration of forces would require a certain level of military command structure, not even talking about more developed strategies. This could remove any manpower or firepower advantage that the mutant army could have. And master's army really struggles in this regard, as at best they could field about 50-60 military-worthy officers after they found Vault 13 (this is with removing any future farming potential). And it would only get worse from this point. 2) Strength of Brotherhood. Brotherhood on the other hand would have peak strength at the beginning of the conflict. Limitation on brotherhood would be equipment, as they mostly rely on scavenging, not producing military equipment. After people realize the threat of mutants, mobilization of nearby cities would start and everyone who can carry a rifle would be joining their resistance, most likely as a part of Brotherhood forces. With both of these in mind, if what we see in-game (or told, cause amount of characters in-game is much smaller than the universe would imply), it would be a face-off between 500-1000 mutants, with little tactics other than raiding or sieging settlements vs the organized force of perhaps 5k-10k mobilized soldiers, with about 500 paladins. Initially, expansion of Unity would be really slow, as settlements when getting to know the threat would be evacuating or brotherhood using the scorched earth tactic. Human forces would only grow, as raiders and other communities would be joining the military under Brotherhood, as Unity threat grows closer. Result: I doubt that Unity could expand fast enough to overwhelm Brotherhood. In-game elders are too slow to respond, but this is mostly because they had no real encounters with mutants. With the proper mobilization of forces by Brotherhood and nearby communities and the use of tactics, the mutant army would lose. They don't even have to assault the FEV base or master, as cutting down their growth would be enough. Even if it's not true and master's forces would overwhelm communities nearbly, Enclave would most likely face the threat and do the same thing - cut down the potential growth of mutant manpower by evacuation or *removing* towns and eventually starving mutants to death. Assault at FEV base is an interesting option but functionally would be the same and only accelerate the process. In any case, Brotherhood or Encalve would defeat Unity and would greatly expand their influence. Brotherhood could become similar to Vault City but bigger, more advanced, and with a much bigger population (assuming assimilation of Hub and such). This could mean faster recovery of civilization to something similar to pre-war America(as a brotherhood is influenced by pre-war America) or most of the west coast being under influence of fascist militaristic fanatic Brotherhood(there are parts of brotherhood that are closer to fascist isolationist, as one of Fallout ending confirms). In the case of Enclave, that would most likely accelerate their plans, and the story of Fallout 2 would happen much earlier, but with no "chosen one" to stop them.
@thememe-museum86693 жыл бұрын
I honestly wish we had a fallout with the Enclave as one of the good factions. And I’m not talking about them being included like in New Vegas, like a major faction that determines your ending
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Eventually.
@randomtommy56063 жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe like enclave reformists or something?
@thememe-museum86693 жыл бұрын
@@randomtommy5606 exactly!
@randomtommy56063 жыл бұрын
@@thememe-museum8669 yeah, I'd like that
@toasterman54126 ай бұрын
If fallout 5 is set in Chicago I feel like they will go this route Tho I hope they aren't the bad guy for once
@redenginner3 жыл бұрын
A classic Enclave-BOS alliance to fight off the Master's army would be a cool idea for a game/mod,and would make for a radically different postgame fallout universe. The Enclave is out of hiding and maybe the two hightech factions fighting a costly war to prevent a grim fate would likely be the beginning of some actual postwar reconstruction instead of a bunch of factions larping in the ruins of the old world. If we factor in the new factions ability to access things like Big MT and the Seirra Madre (vertibird go zoom) to grab the hyperadvanced tech installed in each,they may very well could hit a full post scarcity civilization with prewar population density figures in the westcoast and extensive colonization of the east coast by 2250. Hell if you throw the reawakening of Mr House and recovery of the platinum chip in their normal times we could very well see lunar colonies and massive efforts to clean up the remaining heavily irradiated areas in the CONUS by 2300. Not to mention the fact that the new America would not by the rapidly declining dystopia it had become by 2077,but something completely new built on a nearly clean slate.
@redenginner3 жыл бұрын
Also this avoids the poorly written chucklefuck brigade that was the Fallout 4 factions which makes it pretty good ngl.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Rebuilding the world means less Fallout games, and that's bad for profit.
@redenginner3 жыл бұрын
The Omega Initiative Yeah true,if there was some form of rebuilding going on there wouldn’t exactly be a setting anymore.
@Commrade-DOGE3 жыл бұрын
Idk... if the masters army was able to reach the east coast and discovered mirelurks...
@advocatusdiaboli99713 жыл бұрын
Quite the interesting thought experiment. Though, I would predict a few key events differently: At one point you argued that the brotherhood would perceive the Mutants as such a threat that they would go in full and protect the hub. Afaik, the brotherhood does not really care about protecting people and, as you yourself put it, protecting the hub would lead to a sieged position with the only prospect of likely being annihilated slowly but surely. Thus, I would say that the brotherhood instead would use the hub as bait to occupy the bulk of the mutant army while they go in full to attack the enemys headquarters. The results of that battle would determine the future of the wasteland. In any case, the victor would be severely weakend and it may lead to something similar to the ncr in the region. Similarly. if the brotherhood is in the hub as you envision it, I would assume that the enclave would use them as bait for the army while doing a full on strike on mariposa base. No need for cooperation, which I btw find unlikely. Although, this attack would basically come out of nowhere for the master. So it could work very well. But in both of these scenarios, the number of now leaderless super mutants on the west coast would be far greater than it is in the original fallout series, which would make an interesting setting.
@floridaball48962 жыл бұрын
Main issue with your statement is that the brotherhood relies on the hub for food and water if the hub falls the brotherhood is going to slowly die of thirst so protecting the hub would be a priority for the brotherhood because it's necessary for their very survival
@The_Alt_Vault3 жыл бұрын
Well possible continuation here but, with the Enclave likely wanting a sample of the FEV from Maraposa they would likely discover its capabilities, when it comes to the creation of super soldiers and its ability to form an anti mutant plague. With this its likely that the Enclave would come to the same plan to purify the world as in the normal fallout timeline as they would see this as the best way to save what was left of humanity by killing them before they could be changed into mutants especially since the master had turned so meany by this point. The only difference we could have is if the Enclave choose to save the brotherhood or let them die with the mutants. If the brotherhood is saved then the Enclave would have a large militarised force already on the main land with a large civilian population ready to start rebuilding. If they choose to not warn and save the Brotherhood then the Enclave would try to repopulate on their own but with such a small population such efforts would be slow but they would lack any form of competition.
@nartaga16243 жыл бұрын
Would be cool if the old school Fallout games worked like the Mass Effect games, where the basic story changes but your character's actions that you made yourself have ripple effects throughout the series.
@MouldMadeMind3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunatly they were just too old.
@jamieisausername Жыл бұрын
I need to play Mass Effect, been sitting in my library for years now
@danielramirez15292 жыл бұрын
It’s good to know that even without a “chosen one” or legendary vault dweller hero, another force would still rise to combat the evil horde
@urdad97243 жыл бұрын
If the enclave at its fallout 2 strength fought the Master I think they would annihilate the masters army with stuff like advanced power armor and frank horrigan there would be no chance for the master
@stevenwebb34753 жыл бұрын
Now this could be a fun game. Hell they could do the same with 76 with the Brotherhood and Enclave.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, given steel reign's optional endings, it doesn't seem the Brotherhood will be involved in any future content.
@jacob4143 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I don’t think the Brotherhood should even be in Appalachia tbh
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@jacob414 But consider this: Money
@jacob4143 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative True
@supergenius62563 жыл бұрын
@@jacob414 definitely possible it's just the terms they use like "Ad Victoriam" and the numbers they have is nuts...the terms they used wouldn't have been used until 2288 when Elder Maxson is on his trip. Numbers wise, they just have too much for the small group they are..
@TheNotSoFunnyClown3 жыл бұрын
An continuous from this hopeful ending would be interesting... With brotherhood and enclave being together It would be interesting to see the aftermath and how different the ending and events of the other fallouts would be....
@a.nonymous50043 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled across this channel, subbed
@Live-qf2lg3 жыл бұрын
I don't see a lot of people talking about The Legion. It might have a harder time forming with the unity expanding, but if The Brotherhood and Enclave can stop the Unity's expansion, or atleast slow it down for like 95 years (I know I'm stretching it). Ceasars legion just might form. It'll certainly be difficult and the culture may be different given the fact that Ceasar comes from the followers and they might be completely wiped out by this point, and if you're this far into this comment you can see that I've givin up because this is basically impossible. Either way I'd love to see Shrek vs Latin dude dressed as an OU Sooner.
@MJRSoap3 жыл бұрын
It's likely The Master would have sent scouts into neighboring states, Nevada, Wasignton, maybe even all the way to Arizona/Texas. Entering Nevada and likely finding The Strip would bring House back to activity and, realizing he probably doesnt have much time, get the Dam and the Securitron upgrades early. As House would still need to enlist someone to go do stuff elsewhere for him, such as activating the Securitrons at Fort Worth, it's possible all of the Mojave is united. Well whats there at the time that is. The Enclave re-activating would likely send a team out to the Vertibird base in the Mojave making contact with House in the process as well as reactivating Hidden Valley. This puts the Enclave on 2 sides of The Master while being backed by an army of Securitrons and a united Mojave, and the Enclaves main base off the coast.
@JXEditor3 жыл бұрын
7:36 Wait you can enter those?
@thefallcor13 жыл бұрын
you can. they are filled with exp.
@Deridus3 жыл бұрын
They range from deathclaw, to radskorps, to the occasional raider. Pretty handy.
@TheWanderer22873 жыл бұрын
very awesome what if style of video!
@bobbysanders87153 жыл бұрын
This was a very interesting take, I never really thought about “what if” the vault dweller failed
@ErokLobotomist2 жыл бұрын
Great videos dude. I've been playing since 1998, these are definitely my current go-to for Lore videos.
@ErokLobotomist2 жыл бұрын
@GreenTea Just increase the playback speed if it hurts your bum bum so much. Easy peasey.
@Jey0963 жыл бұрын
wouldn't the enclave just use a bio weapon? I mean they developed them before. Also we seem to be missing out on the possibility of the enclave going deeper inlands to secure weapons of mass destruction, like pre war nukes or the helios one laser, and consequently using them to destroy the cathedral.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
They hadn't developed it yet.
@antoninus26783 жыл бұрын
asuming bethesda learns to have some creative thought with the fallout ip this wouldnt be a bad spinoff in the series
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they'll reach Marvel level popularity where they explore what if scenarios.
@AstraAstarte2 жыл бұрын
tho hard fought there would also be mr houses robots and even the legion, and because the NCR would not have exsisted the legion would most likely had taken control of new vegas and even possibly mr houses robots, and with the added tribal power it could be safe to say that the legion if smart (using the landscape like the canyons and rivers) they could ambush many of the mutants and if they fail, theres always the chance of their being much more powerful factions in places like texas (if its as gun friendly in fallout as in real life before the war many of those guns and ways of thinking might survive) there would also be east coast chapters of BOS like the Chicago and Appalachian chapters, also the east coast enclave who after learning about the west coast might be more open to supporting the people in a fight and they had much more progress with controlling deathclaws a valuable weapon against supermutents however if the master reaches the super mutents in dc that would end the us
@terrorbilly33672 жыл бұрын
i could see vault 76 residents managing to fight off master's army with the stuff that they got like gauss miniguns actual nukes and all that plus power armor with jetpacks would give them an adventage.so either the vault dweller will just be replaced with a vault dweller from vault 76 in killing the master, but far more likely is that west virginia would become a stronghold for a while
@faffingabout69053 жыл бұрын
Great video hope you do more like it
@forgedscar15623 жыл бұрын
i love this stuff
@xilpes62543 жыл бұрын
Impostor
@ravekid52823 жыл бұрын
i love crack
@kapkan57653 жыл бұрын
This channel is incredibly underrated for all the effort in these videos
@TheKoopaKingBowser2 жыл бұрын
That fail screen with the vault dweller and F.E.V, jesus christ. It just awakens everything in me that isn't a good emotion. I cannot imagine the desperation to escape. And the pain of being dumped in.
@kevinrey50332 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a part 2 for this one, involving Mr. House, and the NCR, and, heck, even the East Coast factions such as the Minutemen and Institute.
@samueljiang394 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but shady sans was the ncr and I wonder how the unity will react to seeing other mutants
@JustGront Жыл бұрын
The NCR never existed in this universe lmao, and Mr. House wouldn't do much
@angelagonzalez82503 жыл бұрын
even if the master won super mutants are sterile they will die out with time
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
They're basically immortal.
@angelagonzalez82503 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative i dont know if they can die from natural causes, but when they are killed they are difficult to replace
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@angelagonzalez8250 The master would find a cure for sterilization or he would kill himself if he can't.
@IronWarrior_693 жыл бұрын
Personally i like to think that the commonwealth would be a hell hole for the masters army as between the glowing sea filled with deathclaws and the institute possibly working with the local factions and on top of that power armor is bloody everywhere due it to being a military zone prewar. i could easily see the factions uniting. it would probably fall however but it would be costly.
@dongenove30483 жыл бұрын
The bos fighting hordes of supermutants by the side of their patriotic brothers would be an awesome timeline
@Buzzwole34783 жыл бұрын
if this had been made into a fallout game and obsidian produce it. It would probly be one of the best fallout game in there
@Jamief15853 жыл бұрын
I think you did it. You made the best outcome fallout could ever see. It’s a shame the Enclave and the brotherhood had to fight because Bethesda thought it would be cool to see power armor soldier vs power armor soldier.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
The Brotherhood and the Enclave remnants fighting together at Hoover damn is probably the closest we'll ever get.
@Jamief15853 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative well, time to play new Vegas again
@Jamief15853 жыл бұрын
@Okbok Tregmas I don’t even know how to respond to you, I’m just kinda done with everyone wanting to throw in their two cents on the internet. I am in no way saying that applies to you, you did bring up several good points, I just am tired of people arguing on the internet. I suppose the best thing I could say is that your statement about “interacting with the Enclave” is wrong because I don’t consider fallout 2 and 3 to be “fanboy wankerism” as you put it. It simply comes down to this: the way that the Enclave as a faction as a whole operates doesn’t make much sense to me and I think their reclusiveness is mostly to blame on bad leadership, because it always is, and if they had a more open-minded leader it would turn out different. I think (I forgot the name of the studio who made fallout 2) the ‘game makers?’ Designed them in a way to be like that, then so be it, I just feel like fallout is a franchise to put more depth into a faction than “good guy bad guy”. Like take a look at Caesar’s Legion. They crucify, and murder, but still, in some aspects are still a better choice than any other faction in New Vegas. Anyway, I’m going to go spend some time doing something else than arguing with people on the internet that I will never meet and that will make no difference in the future.
@liamcastillo29023 жыл бұрын
Both are natural enemies
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@Okbok Tregmas Fallout 3 Enclave didn't want to do that, Fallout 76 Enclave didn't want to do that.
@tugfngjfuvj3 жыл бұрын
A way to get rid of Mariposa is to perform a combined ground (deploy troops out of line of sight of the mutant ground forces) and aerial assault. Then destroy the ventilation system and use flame throwsers to remove all oxygen within the bunker. Use the isolated air supply of the power armor to clear out the different layers, or just destroy the elevator. Then collapse the first level with explosives. Problem solved.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Leave nothing to chance, make sure they're all dead.
@cobaltprime94673 жыл бұрын
My guess would be the Master keeps making mutants, gets the Dwellers of 13. Realizes the mutants are sterile and keeps working to fix them… likely never succeeding. In the meantime, the BOS and a few others willing to fight would keep fighting. The fight keeps going, the NCR never forms, the BOS probably takes the remaining humans north to find more recruits. Likely to hide until they find a way to destroy the Master. The Master creates his own new nation of mutants. Taking Vault 8 citizens to experiment on in his quest to make non sterile mutants. Then comes the Enclave. They likely would wipe out the mutants. It would be a hell of a war but ultimately, the Enclave succeeds. Enclave would make their new government and work on their space program. First finding more Vault Dwellers from control vaults. The BOS might come back and start a war with the Enclave or just stay north.
@imperatrix03643 жыл бұрын
Finally, You Started To Getting More Views You Deserved!
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Lets see if it was a fluke.
@imperatrix03643 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I Hope You Will Get More Views. By The Way, Are You Planning To Create A Discord Server?
@demetriusrose20113 жыл бұрын
Awsome concept :D
@hutchthelynx2 жыл бұрын
it would definetly also make for an interesting story if the Brotherhood and the enclave cooperated in canon
@kendog84bsc2 жыл бұрын
The Enclave/BoS joint attack on the Master's Mariposa base sounds super exciting, conceptually and visually... Not-evil, or not-as-evil Enclave is also really neat as a concept. It got my imaginations working. On one night, mutants are guarding the base entry. The area is quiet... until they start hearing an unfamiliar sound. The sound of Vertibirds. And boom! Sentry posts explode out of nowhere, followed by Enclave and BoS come flying down in Vertibirds (I'm just presuming that mutants can't fight as effectively in the dark than in daylight, and power armor has some night fighting equipment). Small number of scouts or a ground forces with, perhaps some heavy equipments are already in the area, and they start attacking the base defense to cover for Vertibirds landing. Mutants defending the entry fire at the Vertibirds. Lots of tracers illuminate the sky. Humans take some casualities, but soon establish the control of the outside, then they enter the base, where they meet some tough mutants and ugly monstrosities. Then they face the Master. The next day, the base is full of dead mutants, and some crashed Vertibirds are lying around. Enclave and BoS search and eliminate mutant strugglers... Man, would I love to see a short animation of something like this, done in style of Fallout 1&2 esque cutscenes. Anyway, it was a very interesting what-if scenario! Nice vid! Edit: Oops, I forgot that The Master was not in Mariposa, but at the Cathedoral. I may need to come up with a substitute boss.. haha
@T0ac473 жыл бұрын
Next time can you please do what if the bombs never dropped in the fallout universe.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about that, I can try, but I'm not sure how interesting it would be.
@bobbobs29083 жыл бұрын
Fallout Pre War. A HOI4 mod in development, set in 2060 till 2080. Grand strategy game but allows a possibility for the player to avoid nuclear war and win as opposing nations. It’s quite interesting and their reddit page has the details for each nation. Else check the discord.
@Commrade-DOGE3 жыл бұрын
could you make a part 2 that explores maybe mr house/ the east coast dealing with this
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
No faction would be able to stop the mutants after they've expanded out of California, unless the Enclave actually at Mount Weather.
@hyperiongm3303 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative Only the unyielding swarm of lobotomite cazadors from Big MT stands a chance.
@Commrade-DOGE3 жыл бұрын
@@hyperiongm330 and the Sierra madre holo grams
@dumbidiot55842 жыл бұрын
@@hyperiongm330 how many muties do you think the legendary bloatfly could take on before it gets killed
@hyperiongm3302 жыл бұрын
@@dumbidiot5584 All of them and then some
@miles_da-tractor_man Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if in the hub there was posters saying (to the last man to the last bullet we will fight)
@indigosteel5702 Жыл бұрын
This and the video on House getting the Platinum Chip inspired me to conceive of an AU where the survivors of California make a mass exodus to the east, rather than standing and fighting the mutants. Together, the denizens of Nevada start looking for the Platinum Chip in earnest, finding it and activating the Securitron Army. This is only the first step, though, as all the local towns, tribes and factions are told the horror stories of the California Refugees; Big Mountain, the Boomers, the Desert Rangers, all of them make preparations for a unified front. Meanwhile, back in Cali, the Unity Army is building it's own strength, creating mutant animals for fodder and Psykers for spies and interrogators. Ghouls are accepted into the Unity as well; while not exactly equals to the mutants, they enjoy a higher status than humans. The Enclave stays on the oil rig, relying on their isolation and anonymity, launching hit and run missions while engineering their modified FEV bioweapon as fast as possible, with plans to disperse it via the jetstream as per FO2, unless someone convinces them otherwise. Then there's the other Enclave outposts like Chicago, Raven Rock and Adams AFB, to say nothing of Vault 0 and the Calculator's Robots...
@ravekid52823 жыл бұрын
Egh, he didnt win, and now we have a bigger threat, and i'm not talking about Caesars Legion... We need to stop Schizo Elijah and his goons from doing shitposts, seriously, he is insane, thats why he is Schizo. Back in a day called himself Nordic Joshua Graham, and was doing great videos about DIY, package openings, rap, and crack.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Really? So that's where Nordic Joshua Graham went.
@StationaryGamingReal3 жыл бұрын
*You have been marked for death*
@MrHouse-ii5yd3 жыл бұрын
Ave, true to Scizo
@mileshostetler24693 жыл бұрын
Schizo is cool
@8vantor83 жыл бұрын
the legion doesn't exist yet, we meat its founder in Fallout New Vegas, so Caesar couldn't of even been born yet.
@BioSyndrome3 жыл бұрын
The masters voice lines are epic
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Me when I discover how to use voice changer...
@royalsoldierofdrangleic45772 жыл бұрын
One problem i have with this theory is the human breeding part you talked about. The Master did not know that Mutants were sterile, only the Liutenant did. He believed super mutants were able to have children and won't change his mind unless given solid proof. When he learns this he is so disconforted he deems al his work useless because the mutants are not the straigh up superior race he wanted to create and kills himself. Based on this i'm pretty sure the human breeding to create new mutants might be a plan made by the smart mutants that the Master is not supposed to know. If he finds out he might very well freak out and die but i think the chain of command under him made by smart mutants might be able to keep control on the majority of super mutants and ravage the wastelands of California.
@TheMaskOfFairies3 ай бұрын
I really like that in future games, the existence of the Master isn’t just ignored. The only one I know of is Black Mountain, a place made for Super Mutants who were under the Master’s command to go. A place where Tabitha, the leader of Black Mountain, would allow Super Mutants to live in peace together. Any human servants of the Master would be allowed there… but they would be allowed to serve as people who would feed the Centaurs. Note: THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS BITE!
@jacklevesque97433 жыл бұрын
Wait wait wait how could he win if all mutants r sterile
@w4rd3n143 жыл бұрын
He couldn't everyone would slowly die becouse the master would kill himself after learning that insted of trying to fix this.
@powerarmorenthusiast10673 жыл бұрын
The Master was working towards a cure for that during Fallout 1, so, if given more time, he would probably be able to make Supermutants that aren't sterile.
@w4rd3n143 жыл бұрын
@@powerarmorenthusiast1067 then why did he kill himself after the player says they are sterile.
@msbunnyg13 жыл бұрын
@@w4rd3n14 because your the player dumbass your supposed to be good at everything
@rudolvonstroheim66343 жыл бұрын
@@w4rd3n14 because plot armor
@MoldycheeseJr3 жыл бұрын
Dude can you please make more of these? I’ve been imagining fallout alternate history scenarios in my head since I played fallout 3. Can you make a timeline where the lone wanderer is killed and the enclave takes over project purity successfully? Edit: this video was terrific. Keep it up 👍
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
This video was the most interesting to me as it represented one of the earliest and greatest changes that could have happened in Fallout, I'm not opposed to making one about Fallout 3, but I do know there's already videos about the Enclave winning in Fallout 3. I would have to watch all those videos and then make sure I'm presenting something new, but I would want it to possible still.
@MoldycheeseJr3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I see! Sorry lol I just wasn’t sure if the fo3 scenario had already been done yet it was just something I’d been imagining in my head for awhile lol. Regardless of the content you put out I’m sure it’ll be great 👍
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@MoldycheeseJr I'm pretty sure there's a shoddycast video about, I really enjoy their content.
@kalkuttadrop63713 ай бұрын
9:28 Alongside the Enclave, there's also the Midwest Chapter of the BOS from Fallout Tactics(Who control everything from Chicago to the rockies), the collection of settlements around the Great Salt Lake mentioned in Van Buren, the Texan Chapter of the BOS from the PS2 game, New Vegas, and the various raider tribes in Colorado that would have eventually become the Legion in the future.
@kalkuttadrop63713 ай бұрын
The Midwest Chapter in particular is probably the strongest threat in the middle of the country.
@brentd29403 жыл бұрын
Another interesting what if. Would be the Enclave succeeding in Fallout 2. While it might be just mostly death. Imagine the Enclave fighting against the Legion. It would be interesting since the Legion despite throwing away advantages the NCR had. Were quite tough to fight against.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Soon
@justabeardedguythatisahero98483 жыл бұрын
0:08 fallout 4 has a story ? never heard of that
@mikesSoul7893 жыл бұрын
the courier United almost all factions ncr won destroying mr.house and legion In fallout new Vegas, brotherhood railroad and minutemen, won in fallout 4 destroying institute, this is best ending for both those games = my head cannon
@chavezchavo3 жыл бұрын
The Courier > The Chosen One + The Vault Dweller + The Lone Wander + Nate/Nora
@thathappyaussie52093 жыл бұрын
The Courier nailed all the profligates onto their new crucifix-shaped homes, you mean?
@mikesSoul7893 жыл бұрын
@@thathappyaussie5209 yeah basically
@mikesSoul7893 жыл бұрын
@@chavezchavo Nate/Nora is just called the Soul Survivor cause u can name the character anything at the beginning of the game, oh and Tho Chosen One is the best in my opinion
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@thathappyaussie5209 𝘚𝘯𝘪𝘧𝘧𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘺 'I smell some bullshit'
@j.c.denton20603 жыл бұрын
Enclave vs. the Master. Such a cool concept. Thank you for this video!
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@MLBeaton3 жыл бұрын
What IF the Master won??? You have no idea how many times I got dipped...
@tyhite1003 жыл бұрын
"The unity" sounds like a metaphor for forced globalization.
@miketacos90343 жыл бұрын
I hope the Followers of the Apocalypse would survive… but most people works probably confuse them with the Children of the Cathedral.
@hellooeg78643 жыл бұрын
This channel is going to blow up this year and I can’t wait to watch it happen!
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait either, that sounds pretty epic.
@sski3 жыл бұрын
That was a pretty interesting and thought-provoking take that could have repercussions far into D.C. (F3) and the Mojave (FNV) depending on the outcome. Nice work :D
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I thinks it's by far the most crucial decision (apart from maybe letting the Enclave win in Fallout 2) that can be made in any Fallout game.
@etiennesickleton4473 жыл бұрын
I've thought about this many times before. Great video.
@blufftopers26883 жыл бұрын
I love the fallout alternative history you should make more videos like this one
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I'm not exactly sure what I would do, this was kind of the most interesting scenario.
@deathclaw29982 жыл бұрын
Well actually according to the Fallout 1 endings, the Brotherhood held out the first wave but a traitor in their midst caused them to fail so the Brotherhood would've been wiped out making the masters plan failing unlikely as they would master the weapons and take over the world
@apolloforabetterfuture48143 жыл бұрын
Alternative history for fallout is a great series idea keep these coming dude
@chrisriley2321 Жыл бұрын
I think there should be a part 2 and 3 to this with the master taking over California and the entire west coast as part 1 Part 2 could be The Master dealing with New Vegas and the midwest including Caesar's Legion and the Midwest BoS. And part 3 concludes it with The Master taking on the East Coast BoS , The Institute, The Minutemen, The Railroad along with The Gunners, various raiders, Far Harbor, The Mechanist and her robot army, and Nuka World's raiders
@toddhoward42093 жыл бұрын
I cant believe i missed your channel for all this time,such a gem! Glad youtube recommended me this video so i got to know your channel
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad too
@arnijulian62416 ай бұрын
Unity vs enclave would be an amazing alternative history as you mentioned.
@Warmaker013 жыл бұрын
It would have been epic for some games set in such a setting. The Master was a great villain and the Super Mutants were at their best as part of his army. Those guys were stupidly well armed packing lots of heavy and energy weapons. A far cry from the later, pathetically armed ones we see in later FO games, such as with pipe guns and wooden boards in FO4.