So, this scenario basically ends with this: "In order to ensure the security and continuing stability, New California Republic will be reorganized into the First California Empire! For a safe and secure society!"

The ending is so beautifully ironic in how Caesar's plan for a synthesis between the NCR and Legion ultimately succeeded, just differently than how he had envisioned, in a future without him. And the NCR evolving into a organized military state due to failing/dying leadership is hardly surprising considering some of their FO2 endings.

While I hate when NCR fans swear up and down the Legion would lose because "haha spears", Legion players tend to forget the empire's kinda screwed once Caesar's dead. Lanius isn't an Octavian. He wasn't groomed for rule, he was Caesar's sledgehammer. Clearly the guy has some intelligence in him, as evidenced by the barter/speech endings to his encounter in the game, but that took someone looking him in the eye and talking him down. No subordinate is going to risk that, so he'll never get the wake-up call. Great vid as always man.

I'd think House would go for a boulder city 2. Overload the Lucky's reactor and blow Vegas sky high. Or simply lock himself up and try again later, remember the legion had tried everything and couldn't get in the bunker. It's enough to blow the elevator up to stall them for months

"And so, the NCRs eyes glazed over as their grace was lost. Their most powerful enemy, most brutal enemy, was not felled by them in the end. Instead, the enemy was defeated by the cruel, painful passage of time. The NCR, now lacking its own soul, wandered and conquered what little it could. Not for its own gain, but because its all they knew how to do anymore."

Basically everything goes downhill. The NCR loses their control of the Mojave, House's dream collapses all around him, the various towns gangs and tribes of the Mojave are either integrated into the Legion or destroyed and wiped from history, and the Legion collapses without Ceaser leading them. This outcome is inevitable without the Courier and leads to a destroyed Mojave, the Legion fractured, and the NCR weakened. Not the ending one would want, all because of one man. Merry Christmas, everyone, and to you too Omega!

I would have loved if Vulpes Inculta could take over the Legion given his intelligence of warfare. Aswell as his ability discieve and plant spys in enemy territories. The legion would be much more scary with Vulpes' intelligence with Lanius' ruthlessness

Now here's an idea I've always wondered about. What if the Legion won during the First Battle of Hoover Dam With Graham still an active member in the forces, I suspect we could wind up with an even worse ending than this Which obviously would make it all the more fun.

With that ending, Caesar acheived his ultimate goal. NCR because of the conflict with the ideology of the Legion, took on parts of the Legions ideologically and shifted theirselves towards a militaristic empire.

What's interesting about this is how pointless the outcome becomes. The first Ceasar had an end goal in mind as flawed and as brutal as it was. Lanius on the other hand does not and is not a good ruler. So with all of the bloodshed and victories the Legion literally is like "now what" with Lanius

I think that the interesting thing following this scenario is what happens with Vulpes Inculta, providing he's still alive. Vulpes is far more conservative with his resources, worse perhaps at outright battle, but more calculated with his brutality than Lanius, and more capable of diplomacy. He'd probably be Lanius' natural successor and might be able to give it a degree of resurgence. Knowing when to retreat, and when to attack.

Thesis. The NCR. Antithesis. The Legion. And finally Synthesis, a Republic as expansionist and chauvinist as Rome. Caesar would indeed be proud.

I think you should do a “What if Elijah won” video. Vegas may be a relatively dark game but if the Courier sided with Elijah or if someone was lucky enough to survive the Sierra Madre’s horrors and sided with Elijah it would instantly turn the world of Fallout into a universe just as grimdark as 40k

Even if Caesar could defeat the NCR, he would ultimately be defeated by a foe far more powerful... Brain cancer.

Graham would have gone all old testament on the Legion

This question hits different if you've played the Old World Blues mod for HOI4. The Legion usually just stomps the NCR and conquers California. Turns into a total shit show, though, if Lanius gets turned by the Twin Mothers, or if Caesar dies and it turns into a four-way brawl as Lanius, Lucius, Vulpes, and Aurelius all struggle for control.

Nothing better than starting Christmas Eve with an Omega Intiative video.

People keep forgetting that likely Caesar adopts the legion aligned courier as his son and heir And a house aligned courier is likely his executor should anything happen to house

I'd love an expansion on the story where Caesar is only interested in taking New Vegas was just to commandeer Mr.House's stasis bed, thus becoming immortal. That way he could rule the legion and the Mojave from behind a screen similar to the Wizard of Oz. He would need to hide that from the rest of his Legion, save his top officers. Question is, what would he do with the army of Securitron's? With the combined might of his troops and the Secturitons, New Vegas would in fact become his 'Rome".

Imagine in the next fallout game, during the entire game there have been vertibirds flying over head, then we get a quest about a village being wiped off the map, and soldiers with advanced technology marching though the wasteland, and are almost at your location, the half way though the game they arrive, the player has been lead to think that this threat must be the Enclave again, but no. In a scene similar to fallout 4 trucks and other vehicles come swarming into the wasteland, but it’s not the Enclave, it’s the NCR.

My goodness dude I freaking love your what if and alternate history videos. Every time I get a notification that you release some new content, its one of the things that truly brightens up my day. Great material as always Omega! You're the best and merry Christmas!

I may be an ncr fanboy but I do love killing profilgates

The legion collapsing under Lanius is no surprise

And then, Ulysses nukes everyone. The End.

It would be cool to see what a militant ncr would do going forward after realizing the collapse of the legion.

What if the Brotherhood won? I could possibly see it happening if Veronica managed to convince McNamara to start recruiting people of the wasteland or, with the war in the west potentially going poorly, the main group of BOS sends a large force to the Mojave, maybe trying to go further east before finding the Mojave chapter.

This was a very well-crafted scenario building upon much of the critical source material from New Vegas. There's many ways this story could branch out from the militant NCR moving into a Mojave and finding whatever little remains of what was once a legendary army of slaves that conquered 86 tribes. Nothing is mentioned of the Brotherhood upon the NCR returning to Vegas. It is established that all of the advanced tech has been stripped. What follows is my opinion of what could happen after the end of the story put out in this video. What was once a bountiful bastion of wealth, power and glory, is now a dry, barren desert long past its prime with whatever oasises now mirages long-gone. The Mojave Wasteland has returned to a time not seen before the rise of Vegas. The city became an action-packed entertainment jewel ripe with casinos in the mid-20th century. Now it is just a grizzled old shadow. Dominated by an arid mass with quiet, sleepy settlements no different than the humble railway water stop that Old Vegas started out as in the early 1900s. The city was quiet for two centuries after the bombs and had a second chance that is now went. But time must go on. The Brotherhood may have had no problem plundering whatever gizmos they deemed "unsafe" from the Mojave. The only trouble they had was with lowlife wasters, muties and savage Legion scum, that fought over the scraps themselves. But their and the Legion's acts of defiance against the NCR only made the Bear a scourge that could conquer that entirety of the old American West, perhaps all 50 states if they had what it took for such a feat. For such a powerhouse as the might of the NCR, they may have had it easy. That is taking a dust bowl of a Mojave no other group would see the value in. But greater challenges rest beyond the old sands. No doubt with what they may have taken, it is a very likely possibility the Brotherhood has also built up steam - a great army of their own. The Enclave that tried to conquer without resistance in the 2240s was spread out across the vast Old World. What the NCR found is only the prelude to a great game for the control of the West, perhaps for all of America. No matter how further the great bear of the west has changed from it's beginnings, the Lord never meant for their demons to rule unchecked forever. Only time will tell how the great crucible for the fate of America will play out after the NCR's return to the Mojave.

Oops, the Legion tried to kill the Bear, but only turned it *rabid* ..

I absolutely love the style of presentation and direction in which you took this hypothetical scenario. You didn't simplify practically anything, things weren't boiled down to just 'the Legion wins and takes everything with little opposition', you emphasised not just what made the Legion strong, but what made it weak, its founding principles, acting as a double-edged sword. Sure, a violent, totalitarian regime is quite effective in swiftly dealing with problems in the short-term, but it requires a specific mindset to deal with long-term problems as well. The fundamental issue being that, the mindset of the dictatorship is centred around the dictator. And when the dictator is replaced by someone without the necessary mindset, he can't just be removed peacefully by a subordinate authority or opposition group in an official manner like in a democracy or even an oligarchy. It requires a plot, scheming in the shadows to facilitate a coup, which in turn requires far too many steps to be pulled off reliably every time an inept dictator comes along. The realism on display is commendable, seeing the Legion show its cracks after their conquests because Lanius is now in control is quite believable. It quite strongly reminds me of more recent WWII Axis victory scenarios created in modded Paradox games such as Hearts of Iron IV (if you'll excuse the cringe-worthy comparison).

The legion basically faces the same problems the NCR had, only exacerbated by poor leadership, causing the legion to leave its “Persia” and collapse internally. It’s ironic how Caesar saw Vegas as the legion’s “Rome,” but the entire area became the equivalent of Afghanistan. It was only when it was deserted that the NCR took it by force, with nothing to show for it other than dirty casinos and ghost towns. The only thing of true value in the area was Hoover Dam, it’s electricity, and all the fresh water the Colorado River could collect. That’s would certainly alleviate the monopoly of The Hub on water merchants. Side tangent: My theory is that Lake Powell has been capturing all the radiation filled water and the clean stuff has been skimmed off the surface and sent downstream to Lake Mead.

6:31 I love this. Followers: We are here to help the people of freeside. House: I'll pay 10000 caps for you to fuck off.

Your alternative fallout history videos are some of the major reasons why I hate the Internet and the overall KZfaq landscape. Cause people that have actual talent towards story writing and storytelling barely have 50k subs with videos getting around 60k views whilst outright MrBeast clones are getting millions of subs and views. You are a truly underrated content creator and I hope that a day will eventually come when the algorithm will bless you and help you blow up. I mean your videos are not only interesting but relaxing af, no joke sometimes I put your longer videos on whenever I have problem falling asleep

It's absolutely insane the way you come up with this stuff. I honest to god take this as straight cannon the way its so well crafted and thought out. You do so well tying the cannon into fiction that its hard to tell where the line is so I sit here mesmerized watching these videos for hours upon discovering you. Absolutely amazing work never stop doing what you're doing. Sorry I'm a little smacked at the moment and am going to spend the rest of the night watching your entire Fallout Archive.

It's sad that a man just sat down and wrote out the entire plot for New Vegas 2, and doesn't even crack 100k views for it.

Through some kind of a dialectical process, as Caesar enjoyed to use for interpretating the evolution of societies, his objective like he said himself in the game was to transform the NCR from a corrupted republic into a "military dictatorship", and he did. Great video

I do love that you included Joshua Graham, one of my favorite characters in all of Fallout

Literally fall asleep to your "what if" series every night. What a lovely way to drown out my tinnitus

beautifully written and spoken, perfectly encapsulates the spirit of fallout and is an incredible standalone story. this is your best work yet, and i say this as a fan of neither house, the legion, or the ncr.

38:06 Gotta give credit, you somehow managed to make the Republic look cool

Absolutely love these sorta what if videos you make though do you think you could do a sorta short story on Boone since in most Legion endings Boone becomes a high class bounty or just goes on a murder spree. Unless he died with the PMC during the defense of Vegas it’d be cool to know his fate in this alternate timeline and to see his reactions towards the newly formed NCR

I feel like by the point of the NCR retreating from Vegas House would have the strip obliterated before giving it up to the Legion, considering his response if the courier allows him to live after disconnecting him from the Lucky 38

What about the other DLCs? Granted they are all stuck in a dead lock Elijah can’t weaponize the madre 100% Ulysses seems like a 2nd courier And I think he’d become a legend like graham The Big MT is a interesting ticking time bomb (also the tunnelers in lonesome road but that’s a story for another time) Not to mention the various bits and pieces of The Mojave that are no-go zones. Nelis is basically Vegas 2 and it’s basically a suicide mission for the legate

13:41 As the wise man once said, "Remind Yourself that Overconfidence is a Slow and Insidious Killer."

You know who Legate Lanius remind me of? Robert Baratheon. A warrior who should never rule.

Ave, true to caesar.

Love your Alternate History scenarios, especially the Enclave ones, those are my favorite. Really immersive too! It pretty much says a lot about what happens when Lanius becomes Caesar.

so the final conversation/ talking Lanius "down" proved correct in the end and Hoover Dam did become the be the grave stone of the Legion. nice to see the Brotherhood "won" but it feels like a hollow victory somehow as they still retreated to their bunker

Looks like the biggest winners here are the brotherhood of steel, they get the tech they wanted, survive, have their enemies damaged, and disappear

The fact that it devolved the NCR into the very thing they were fighting is poetic

So the legion falls apart and the NCR evolves from an empire in all but name into a full fledged empire. Now though I wonder what happens to Elijah? Does he simply wither and die in the Sierra Madre with no one else to come and put Dead Money into motion? What of Ulysses?

This is the best interpretation of house in a while. Its really hard to properly picture house as hes so insanely methodical, its likely for example that he would have presicted the ncr would leave and maybe even order an evacuation of his body you never know, but you know hes the most stybborn old bastard in the entire fallout franchise so it makes sense once he realizes its rsther hopeless he fights untill death

this is before the courier video in the playlist

They wont go quietly, the legion can count on it.

God I hate how these videos are so good, I keep watching them one after another and loving it 😭

This is such an awesome story. I think this is your best video yet.

Tbf whatever happens the ncr wins. The further west they go it becomes harder to integrate nationalist NCR citizens, longer supply lines and shorter ones for NCR and in addtion tbe ncr has modern industrial power

Thanks for do this Omega.

I like that even when Caesar's Legion won, they still lose to the NCR.

Three videos, Christmas gift of a lifetime!

I’d love to see a scenario where Benny actually takes over and kills house and maybe actually claims a independent Vegas (especially since his late Voice Actor Matthew Perry has passed away recently)

22:30 Damn, the Brotherhood of Steel's stealth build was so good they even snuck up on the Narrator.

I love how you told the story from the POV of the ones losing

I really liked the point when NCR turned to pre-war McCartneyism after losing the Mohave, really makes the entire loop of "war never changes".

Found your videos by accident. Pretty awesome story lines. Nice job.

The Legion will die unless it finds it's Augustus.

So in the end Caesar's planned synthesis of the Legion and NCR was succesful.

As always, awesome storytelling and creativity!

Ironically ceasers thesis and antithesis came true with the absence of the courier. The parts that conflicted washed away to create a stronger combined being.

Glad to see that this isn't just a legion playthrough but without the courier.

Tl;dr Ulysses/Brotherhood win? This video doesnt really discuss what happened with the DLC characters besides Graham. What about Ulysses, or the Sierra Madre? I doubt anyone would ever get into the Casino, although maybe one day this NewNCR could take it by force, only to find their endeavors being for nothing as the vault self-destructs, and the matter fabrication technology likely lost along-side it. As for Big MT? Well, without the Courier's intervention, not much changes. The toaster dies, likely, and Cazadors, and other such mutated creatures steadily enter the Mojave as usual. And regarding Ulysses, I feel he would *eventually* figure out the Courier's death, probably working backwards in the process (hearing of the Legion's fall, and basically watching this video in reverss). That is, if he isnt the one to put the final nail in the Legion's coffin, activating his nuclear warheads to completely decimating the Legion's base of operations. OR, maybe he never had the chance to destroy the Legion, maybe they collapse within too quickly? And it is the NCR, this rabid, destructive animal that is *put down* by Ulysses with his warheads completely glassing the New California Republic. It'd likely be a mercy killing, from his point of view. Ironically? If the Brotherhood was able to hold out even as the Legion collapsed, and the NCR retake the Mojave, they'd probably be the ones to "win" overall in this scenario. They picked the Mojave clean of technology they deemed unsafe, and if Ulysses nukes the NCR, will likely be able to take back Helios One as well (maybe dealing with some cut off, rogue NCR troops in the process).

This is a better plot than most movies

LETS GO i love legion and the ending slideshow doesnt show much im so glad you uploaded this

This is the best Christmas present, true to Caesar

If only Lanius had someone to explain how attritional warfare works.

The fact that you can simply talk Lanius out of being loyal to Caesar, and simply walk away from his greatest fight, tells me that he would NOT be able to lead the Legion in this manner. It’s a very well done video, however, it requires too much suspension of belief to follow as a possibility. Love the content though, and I like the debates and thoughts you hypotheticals conjure

Alternativ Tietle for this Video what if Benny was a better Shot.

The problem with the legion is not "haha spears". The problem is that the whole mojave conflict is almost 100% of the legion's forces versus...like 10? maybe 20% of ncr? Ncr is enourmous. The only reason legion has any chances is that NCR is stretched thing across the entire republic and mojave is seen as "some millitary campaign somewhere super far away" You know, the kind of place you read on the newspaper about and say "wow there's a war over there, how terrible" and continue drinking your coffee. Even if the legion wins at vegas, they wouldn't be able to do anything else, the moment they stop attacking some frontier desert that many people can't even find on a map. the entire ncr millitary coalesces in one place and bombs the legion out of the sky. The best the legion can count on is that with the dam damaged, the ncr would just leave it be and focus somewhere else while legion builds up. They absolutely can win this battle, but they better hope there won't be a war afterwards.

As a huge fall out fan I absolutely love your fallout alt history videos. You are amazing should start writing fallout lore novels if God Howard approves of course. Keep up the amazing work.

"The NCR turns into the Enclave"

Was waiting for the BOS to drop the Archimedes II on the legion

I love the fact that my favourite faction i.e: the BoS is, by the end, lurking in the shadows, probably stronger than ever

Great what if video. I don't think the House backed mercenaries would stick around to fight the Legion after the NCR left. Historically mercs have always dipped out when it becomes apparent they don't stand to gain anything.

The main thing I love about all of these vids that you make (especially the ones on fnv) is the very real possibility that these could happen Like I could see the events in these serving as the backstory for new fallout games Great job on this one

The entire mojave rhymes perfectly with the early ancient mediterranean history in a stretch way. The NCR expanding everywhere and consequently leading to the destruction of the divide (courier let out). Like the greeks destroying Troy and the myth of the leaving refugees establishing Rome (first alba longa, i think). Under them the hero whos name i forgot but who’s spiritual “successor”(its still a game) the courier getting away from the divide and possibly establishing an New Vegas city state. The Ncr like the of old, influence and ties to destroy Vegas(Rome) but fails really like Phyrus in an phyrical victory. The legion being like the “babarian” Celts of old, who tried and i think did sacked Rome. Here the Legion tries the same. little thought experiment with surley a ton of grammar and historical flaws in it , so take it as it is meant. An funny thought.

I wonder what'd happen if all the brotherhood chapters joined up (like say they were all driven out, ex. Ncr expansion,growing unrest among the people overwhelm the DC brotherhood, and the commonwealth clearly isn't welcoming to the brotherhood and they are kicked out by settlers and/or the minutemen and railroad who don't want to under the control of a faction

Me : do one for the legion Omega : I don't like the legion Omega: dose it anyway

I would love to see how it would be if benny would have been in charge of new vegas

love how this proves the 100 speech/barter courier right

22:30 how could it get worse...*enclave Vertibird comes in* Oh wait that can't happen. Aww

The thing why i see the legion as a danger is when your marked for death, while ncr would send overconfident soldiers and the powder gangs bieng just criminals settling a grudge, the legion will send some of the very best, they go full hammer down on whoever wrong them, despite the legion armed with spears and common machine guns, they can punch above the weight due to the fact they are ready for war however there refusal for technology and over Reliance for slaves is what would spell there doom.

Caesar did win. all other endings are the what if alternatives

As someone with moderate sympathies for the NCR, I’ll follow this new NCR. Great video, Peace ✌🏻 and Happy New Year. Part 2 to this please? 😎👍 P.S. Sad that Mr. House’s dream didn’t work out so well.

I love this new NCR, legion was always to primative to me and NCR was to beurocratic, so I settled on house. Then a militaristic NCR without the beurocracy is my new favourite, although not cannon.

I love the idea of the PMC

This makes for an interesting branch-off point (again, I guess, from a dead courier). Benny runs from an ambush, tries to get into the fort. Gets five feet in. And then when he's brought before the mighty Caesar himself, Benny being the weasel bargainer he is, starts to bargain. He doesn't want to give up his trump of the chip, BUT he does notice the autodoc sitting in the tent behind the throne. And he goes right to 'well, maybe parts'. After all, Benny while not super tech savvy had full access to the back areas of a specific vault 21. And he saw one of those machines, and likely salvaged parts that might be usable for decoding House's tech (it wasn't but he kept onto it as a sort of 'good luck charm' since House didn't know he found all that tech). And he offers it to Caesar. It's with his confiscated items... none of the legion know what it is but Mr. Sallow knows, and it's even stamped with the right serial numbers for his autodoc. A simple replacement, Benny given a swift death instead of crucifixion for what he did... and Caesar is cured. But what would change? The legion still needs tribes to consume and battles to fight. He wants to forge a nation but as it stands it's shaky ground. He suspects as decadent as the NCR is he might not be able to actually take them on head-on... but can he work out a stalemate and a cold war with drawn up boundaries? There's no courier to tip the scales for the NCR or Legion either way now, the chip is a non-entity so House isn't much of a factor, but the Legion is stretched thin and the reasons the Courier gives end-game still remain: take the west and lose the east. And Caesar isn't stupid. Can he forge an empire to last beyond his life when he has decades still? Or will it collapse like old Rome did, to corruption and backstabbing and stretching too thin and all the fun things he now has to worry about himself?

"Sweeps up and down, seemingly nothing to be found" ... "Until suddenly, someone appears ATOP ONE OF THE TOWERS, lining up a shot." I feel like some sort of *small* oversight was made.

39:16 My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair! Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

I noticed the changed thumbnails for both videos, amazing work

This series would be amazing books, audiobooks, podcasts, etc. amazing alt history series about an amazing alt history game!

An NCR I would follow!