Who is the biggest traitor in football?

These City fans are delusional. Maybe up to 10 charges you could think there's a mistake, but 115... Nahhh.

That Man City guy cracks me up every time, sweating, waffling and acting like he's the CEO... "I'm in the firing line!" 😂

Lol, Mckola finally said what everyone is thinking but won't say.

How Steve can defend the fact city brought in more revenue than Barca, real, Liverpool, United etc is utter lunacy

115 charges, 'Nah, I trust my owners' lmao Gullible is written on the ceiling

The level of denial this city fans has is incredible

42:01 'I am on the front line' this guy is so dramatic 🤣

"my chairman" The only people I've ever heard using that term are managers, Big Steve is clearly deluded

Guy can waffle all he wants. But there will always be an asterisk on the whole thing.

115 charges. Im backing my chairman 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

When he tries to deflect the conversation to Gary’s businesses sponsoring Salford and Gary completely shuts the argument down was brilliant 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

“I’m backing my chairman” 😂😂😂 Just own it mate, your clubs cheated it’s way to the top, and you’ve enjoyed the ride.

city fans think they make more money than madrid , barca or united ... come on

Having 115 charges and still blindly believing there isn't a probability of them being guilty is beyond me and if they are found guilty they should be stripped off of the titles

Phil Mitchell is in denial

I tell you why Big Steve's Argument with Adam McKola is funny: McKola actually has a law degree, with 1st Class honours. So when Big Steve is shouting at Adam "Are you a Lawyer?" Adam could've legitimately said yes. 😂😂🤣🤣

if found guilty the only appropriate punishment would be relegation and stripped of all titles won

The reason city are being treated like they are guilty is because 1. They have previous and got off on a time lapse. 2. There's ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN, charges. It's not like we're talking about a little mistake or a slight mismanagement here. We re talking a big number over a prolonged period of time. If I told you "this guys been before a judge 115 times but hes never been convicted",would you immediately think he must still be an allright guy cause hes never been convicted?? Youd think "he must have a serious solicitor or hes the judges lovechild"...Big steve seems a nice lad, and I get he loves the club. But if there's that much smoke ,at some point you have to realize that something isn't right

City fans have more connection to a state financial group and team of lawyers than the actual football club.

The premier league wouldnt bring 115 charges against a club without being fairly confident some wrong doing has been done. Imagine the embarrassment for the league from having 115 charges thrown out in court, would look like a circus.

"allegedly".....come on mate, you knew this question was coming, and that's the best defence you can come up with......

City are guilty. Just the fact they say they bring in the most revenue in world football speaks volumes. But they will drag it out, muddy the waters, pay off people and get off. But they ARE guilty

“I’m on the front line” yeah it’s life or death ain’t it Steve 🤣🤣🤣🤣

This was fun. 😂

City represent everything wrong with modern day football.

whenever i heard about "man city supporters", i will always remember an interview where Pep beg for "man city supporters" to come and fill in the stadium in UCL match, and that's not even the funny part, after that interview, "man city supporters" spoke person replied also in an interview said that Pep asking too much for them and that Pep needs to stick just to manage the club. LOL 🤣

The guy that said lukaku was a traitor and blaming him for their downfall that season is funny haha

Why is he callled Big Steve ? There's nothing big about him ,except his big Bald head. Should change his nickname to Big Baldy 😂😂😂

Steve doesn’t agree with the notion that they could be guilty

How can a club that cant fill their stadium earn the revenue they claim, i despise man city and i despise liverpool, but at least Liverpool FC have a respect, Man City era is tainted.

If Steve just like the rest of us saw Utd winning trophies on trophies being deemed the most profitable club in England for decades & still not overtake Real Madrid & Barca as highest earners… thinks city can do it after one treble & one champions leagues then that club are leading him down the path 😂

Big Steve's head is as big as it is cos of all the mental gymnastics he does to try and convince himself that everyrhing is above board 😂

Christ on a bike, these City fans are deluded. You simply can't have double your income like the way they have gone about it

When the owner of man city is your main sponsor instead of Etihad behind closed doors😂😂😂 yup trust your club

Sportswashing has worked nicely on Steve

They’re so obviously guilty it’s unreal. The only question is whether the premier league have the balls to punish them.

Does big Steve not get bored using the underdog mentality 24/7?

- City consistently have to give away free tickets to school kids and RAF staff in order to fill their relatively small capacity stadium - Citys sponsors are owned by family members of Citys owners, which is literally the definition of related party transactions (IAS international accounting standard rule 24). - City are reporting greater commercial revenue than Real Madrid, per their annual published club accounts. - The Prem have literally charged city for 115 breaches of rules that city agreed to operate within, which includes breaches of financial reporting accuracy and lack of cooperation. Each of these 4 points are facts and based on public information, and it doesn't take sherlock holmes to connect these dots up and draw the conclusion that city are guilty. Until evidence of the contrary is provided this will quite rightly remain to be the case.

More of these debates👍

I’ve seen the City guy outside the Etihad in full kit, including shin pads. Screaming at Pigeons “I can’t take the pressure”

City fans with their heads in the sand as usual. Plastics

This Steve dude is beyond delusional lmao

Absolute jokers these City fans, I'm sure he took prince Andrew at his word when he say he didn't do a thing 😂

Baz seems such a great guy, you can talk football to him all day.

Why did they cut away from mckola rattling steve

The city chap is really going out on a limb haha - desperate defence

Not a shout about Steve Bruce as a manager. He managed Newcastle, Sunderland, Sheffield Utd, Wednesday, Birmingham and Villa 😂

As much as the FFP 115 is a big deal, Steve is right that the Premier League board itself is a mess. First mention of a regulator and suddenly clubs are having their finances scrutinised - but as shown with Everton the League don't know how to apply their own rules.

Only 8 of them spoke, were the rest just extras?

Baldy is delusional 😂😂😂😂😂

What was interesting was the city fans defence of the huge over marker sponsorship deals, was multi club operations. Not tenable really, some clubs are in small markets, some are in leagues where the team has no impact, one country the football fans prefer foreign football then local . Some clubs have small league presence and also other sports are more popular. Plus the sponsors are advertising city and there players and not the player from Montevideo, Yokohama or Melbourne, they are using kdb or Harland.

WHY ARE THESE SO LOUD 19:28 (love the show btw)

Nice way to start the day

It's 115 charges not 1, 2, 10 or 15. It's 115, of course everyone think you're guilty. What does he mean 'allegedly' lmao

Brilliant as always 👏🏻👏🏻

'115 charges against Dr Shipman....i trust my GP.'

34:44 they're not mutually exclusive mate. A foreign state could come through on promises of investment on and off the field, AND be cheating at the same time. It's really not that difficult to compute. Being ambitious and serious about winning, doesn't mean you're not a cheat. Cheating, especially on your alleged scale, is driven by ambition; more specifically (amongst other motivations such as desperation, and residual benefits like prizemoney) a desire to be PERCEIVED as the best, not necessarily to be the best. You don't tend to see cheats that are indifferent about winning. You won't see the skinny gamer nerd cheat in PE class, because why would they care? If we followed your line of logic, the Glazers are more likely to be cheats than City Group, and even you would admit that's a pretty nonsensical idea to reconcile. It's like saying you trust Lance Armstrong because he started the Livestrong charity. You don't have to like it, but you need to accept that everyone with half a brain cell and not connected with City, can put 2 and 2 together and decide that your owners are likely a collection of cheating scumbags. People can tell that things don't add up, and the more charges that add up, the less things add up about your supposed legitimacy. When you factor in where you started from and the financial rules you've had to abide by, your footballing and financial success been far too meteoric. It doesn't. Add. Up. This is what riles everyone about your fanbase, because you lack the spine to at least concede that your club has a case to answer. And your counter-evidence? *Bangs fist on the table* - "BECAUSE I LOVE MY CHAIRMAN". It's very odd behaviour.

Imagine having 115 charges....you'll be labelled as a career criminal 😂😂

Thought I'd eventually get tired of the Gary and Carra combo but it's still brilliant, the Ant and Dec of football.

Love how the rag in the corner is rocking while big steve is having his say. 😂

Baz is always such a breath of fresh air when you consider fans like Big Steve.

Big Steve dude .. how can one be so dillusional

Absolutely brilliant pundits and great stalwarts of football clubs sat having debates with fans just a great cross over fans get the understanding of the players and players are actually hearing fans ❤❤

4 year long investigation and 115 charges - Steve: "must be nothing"

I almost feel soory for that poor 115FC supporter. How awkward , trying to defend the indefensible.

The Citeh version of Ty.

Can we have different teams next episode? It’s nice to talk about FFP, but what about Gary O Neil taking Wolves to 9th?

Great Stuff!

You'll never beat Mo Johnston signing for Rangers after being paraded at Celtic Park a few weeks before it.

Glad I got to watch the Gillette advert 6 times.

I wonder where Jamie Cara got that black shirt from? plain but the quality looks banging

Not EPL but so it’s Scotland, when Celtic legend Mo Johnstone was returning to Celtic after a spell away, had photos with the scarf and everything and signed for Rangers the next day. My dad can’t even mention his name

Can’t blame Sol Campbell for wanting to win the league at White Hart Lane and then going on to do it.

Give city a relegation for every 25 charges (which should put them in the national league), stripped of all charges and a 10 year transfer ban

I’ll say it since no one else will: Why is the music they play when transitioning scenes shouting at me?

Would be nice for the fans of smaller clubs to have an input, the ones behind. Brilliant though.

Love how Steve keeps avoiding the city bring in the most revenue bollocks

Al Murray meets Max Branning spoke the most but embarassed himself the most too.

Does steve know all his sponsorships are owned by his clubs owner 😂

wish there was a brentford voice in the room, especially with the discussion of good owners!

It’s not allegedly uefa charged city. You are found guilty and got away with it because of time barring. It’s not allegedly your guilty

This show has just have people stating the obvious McKola is the only one going all out 😂

One thing that's change is how revenue is gathered, back when utd ,mardrid etc was top it was a totally different era it was all merch etc these days there's gotta be millions in social media and online which has gone crazy in the last 10years

That Steve guy coming out with all this waffle then covering his back by saying "I don't know I'm not an accountant"

Steve steve you sad little bald egg. Youve lived a very sheltered life you innocent little humpty dumpty ❤❤❤

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this channel is on fire!!!

love the show, and nice seeing another scouser on there as a liverpool supporter, but bring in the other supporters from other clubs. it's a bummer they're just sitting there on side bleachers

Props Matisse for representing us 👏

If it was 1 or 2 charges, then I could maybe understand saying "I trust the owners". But it's not 1 or 2... It's 115! Have you never heard the expression, there's no smoke without fire? Because that's a lot of smoke right there.

Corr you would of thought Steve was in the WWII trenches the way he’s claiming he’s in the ‘firing line’

Carra is gas, viewing to viewing I lurch between eye rolling to roaring "Well Said Jamie!!!" 😅. Fair play to him for speaking his mind so often

Why don’t you give a voice to the other clubs represented in the room. While I don’t mind the lads from Everton, Chelsea, Spurs and Utd please let others have there say

Klopp has definitely worked miracles, he’s made 20 year olds dominate Man City (cheats) the best team in the country at Anfield…he will be a massive loss unfortunately, even with Alonso Klopp has also won every trophy there is, multiple times, with also having a smaller squad and bad long term injuries in 2 or 3 seasons Liverpool’s net spend is way below Man City, Man United and Chelsea

They gave Baldy Steve the shovel and he buried himself. What an embarrassment 😂

Big Steve reminds me of a fictional character named Squealer: "My Chairman is always right, oink."

😂😂😂😂😂😂 115 charges a mistake lol

I felt hurt when liverpool won the league. I felt hurt when liverpool won the champions league. I never felt hurt for any of city’s ‘achievements’. I felt that it was a loss for all of football. Everyone must play by the same rules and i will not acknowledge anything ‘achieved’ whilst you get ahead of everyone by doing things they can’t get away with.

Confused as to why there's some random fella with an Inter shirt, do they pay you for a sponsorship or something?