A quickie on how to remove varnish frosting and how to varnish your miniatures better. Doctor Faust's Painting Clinic www.paintingclinic.com / doctorfaustspaintingcl...
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@Josai09095 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this 11 year old video! I made my 12 hour painted mini have "frosting". I really consider re-painting it but thanks to you I don't have to. This method is really working! Thanks again man! you earn a sub
@Stelesar3 жыл бұрын
I just spent a week painting a paladin with a lot of tiny details only to brutally ruin it with the frosting. This tip worked like a charm. I am so happy I can not skip leaving a thank you. Big thanks!
@meh1994able Жыл бұрын
i just did the same. fingers crossed re varnishing it will work for me too
@christhemodelpainter11 жыл бұрын
This has happened to me in the past and i ended up repainting the mini, now thanks to your info if it happens again i know what to try. Keep up the good work Chris.
@Nephilim200111 жыл бұрын
Thanks PaintingClinic. You just saved my first 3 minis. The first two got a nasty layer of frost and on my third I applied a gloss varnish which I hated the result of. Sprayed a new coat sealant over all 3 of them and let them "bake" in the sun for 30 min. Now they all got that great matt look to them.
@RiceballOne11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for publishing this! I just thought I'd screwed up and was going to live with it and thought the only fix for this was something far more drastic.
@M0U53B41T9 жыл бұрын
thank you thank you thank you! Dealing with high humidity here, the drying has been a pain, even inside in AC
@leonshepherd45563 жыл бұрын
This is actually genius, thank you so much, you've saved quite a few of my minis.
@PuffySofty2 жыл бұрын
I put all my varnished piece in front of a fan and the results so far have been great!
@kostiantynfedorov61104 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You really saved few minis I tried to varnish for the first time P.S. used Monotorum Varnish from citadel and frosting wasn’t as strong as I saw in some photos, but still
@gaustadtpanzer36065 жыл бұрын
I am going to try this! I know the issues is the humidity because I live in Florida where it's either roasting hot, super humid or a nasty mix of both!
@allantraise3174 Жыл бұрын
Lol just made the rookie mistake and frosted my mini 😂 Always great to get back to basics. Great video 👍
@selwynevonbeereskow80532 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for making my day. I was devastated after having ruined 5 carefully painted minis by fogging them with the varnish. Now they are okay again and I don't have to do them again from scratch! Three cheers for you!
@SewerShark7 жыл бұрын
OMG, thank you so very much. It worked like a charm.
@hummelblack63488 жыл бұрын
Guys, i just tried to paint Lahmian Medium over frosting. It works amazing for me, give it a try.
@idontwanttopickone4 жыл бұрын
Just don't eat the cake afterwards!
@kostiantynfedorov61104 жыл бұрын
Hummel Black did you stir it with water?
@cerberusbrig4 жыл бұрын
seems to work quite well, thanks!!!
@jamjar34518 жыл бұрын
cheers for this video. Explains alot and is very helpful. Thanks for this video. 😆😆😆
@lilsk8er4ever20068 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@DaBasementModeler11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@ThePaintingClinic11 жыл бұрын
Heard of that only with poly-vinyl models and lacquer varnish.
@ChampionofTerra9 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thx for this tip. I only got some infinity models, and I know that I will have to use varnish on them, but I am so afraid that it will ruin the entire paint job...
@stevedowning38924 жыл бұрын
Well bugger me, this totally works! Thanks man!
@ThePaintingClinic11 жыл бұрын
Easier to find lacquer based sprays. I haven't compared the two, but I would think lacquer would be tougher.
@keithscholes61587 жыл бұрын
Incandescent bulbs are a bit expensive and hard to get hold of nowadays. So I was wondering if a few minutes under a hand held hair dryer will have the same effect?
@eddings19648 жыл бұрын
You want an example? My hobbies have collided! I'm painting in a room with 300 gallons of aquariums!
@ThePaintingClinic11 жыл бұрын
Never heard of that. I don't use much acrylic varnish and never had frosting happen with it.
@CloudySteak11 жыл бұрын
nice video what varnish is that?
@Starburst76417 жыл бұрын
would this work with a hairdrier?
@SgtOddballz11 жыл бұрын
I had batch of lizardmen I sprayed...looked good then later I noticed some got spots..as if laquer spit on them ... I an guessing this might fix them. What caused spots in ur opinion? I never noticed can fail to spray right and never had this occur b4.
@Mchen24611 жыл бұрын
Annoying when this happens. Tried the olive oil and it works! Thanks for the tip. Frosting was caused on my models by damp I think, will have to be careful with that in the future
@ThePaintingClinic11 жыл бұрын
Let me know how that works out.
@EdgarPaulk11 жыл бұрын
Is there a particular reason to use lacquer base varnish instead of acrylic?
@JohnDoe-yr4wc3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TheVoodooOrk11 жыл бұрын
I've heard you can remove frosting using olive oil? Have you heard about that as well? What about if Acrylic Matte Varnish frosts?
@ThePaintingClinic11 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a different issue. Maybe a clogged nozzle. Not sure how to fix that.
@MacAttack00111 жыл бұрын
Have you ever had a polyurethane matte sealer not dry? I had one model that I sprayed where it remained slightly tacky...even a month later. My usual method is put the spray can in a sink with warm water and let it warm up for a few minutes. Shake for two minutes and then spray. It kind of vexed me as this is a name brand that I have used for years without incident.
@marcaustin1003 жыл бұрын
Varnished my first model with Army Painter "anti-shine" matte varnish and ended up with high gloss and loss of maybe 50% of my highlights. Really bummed out. Temp outside in Seattle was maybe 48 F. Temp indoors was 70F. Really don't want to ever varnish another model again. Is the lamp enough to solve the problem, or should I switch to another varnish product?
@tomverenna9 жыл бұрын
So, okay--I picked up some Army Painter matte varnish finish. Previously I was using lusterless flat (that you show in this video) and never had any trouble. I wanted to try out this new stuff because I've been experimenting with their strong tone dip (I did two test models at 28mm) and with the lusterless flat stuff, it turned out fine. Tonight, I took a batch of about 11 minis that had just finished drying over 24 hours (doing the same thing I did with the lusterless flat), I sprayed them with the Army Painter varnish. And well... now I have bubbling. I've never seen this before (I've varnished about a hundred minis without fail). It looks like someone pixelated the models or made pick marks in them. Will this technique still work? If I recoat them will that pixelating go away and will it smooth the models out?
@ThePaintingClinic9 жыл бұрын
Thomas Verenna That has to do with a reaction with the dip. It has nothing to do with frosting, so no.
@PatKarl7 жыл бұрын
I tried this with Purity Seal. I had a bit frosting in a flames of war 88 gun. After more then 24 hours I sprayed it again (because of this video). It had even more frosting! The i found something in a forum. Gloss varnish! I tried it and.... it removed the frosting nearly completly.
@jeanharrison89247 жыл бұрын
Karolus 84 thanks for the info. Purity seal is exactly what I had this problem with. You're saving me from adding to the problem.
@PatKarl7 жыл бұрын
Your welcome :)
@scottbrookes43303 жыл бұрын
Question to anyone who sees this. I applied too much varnish on my miniatures with the GW satin varnish (it was my first time doing it), so it frosted a lot on the top. Is it really the case where applying MORE varnish actually helps? I have watched the video, but I'm a little nervous to try it.
@jrg3054 жыл бұрын
If I had this happen with gloss varnish, will the frosting go away if I do a matte one after? I hadn't done this for 3 years and didn't review and applied too much spray. It created bubbles and frosting in the cape of my wizard. The directions want me to let dry for 30 min and either apply another coat then till 2 hours or after 48 hours. Something magic must happen in that window lol. I remember last time I did this, I thought I ruined everything after the gloss, and then the matte made them look pretty decent. Maybe I was just getting rid of frosting?
@vincemiyazaki97394 жыл бұрын
Will putting it on low heat in the oven work also?
@TheVoodooOrk11 жыл бұрын
Supposedly it works on Acrylic Matt Varnish, just by rubbing on some olive oil, the frosting goes away. Not sure why, but it seems to work.
@Knittywizard7 ай бұрын
I've got small bubbles that dried from a gloss brush on varnish, is there anything I can do to remove them now that they've dried?
@redbaronlast8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this - and all your other! - good videos! Two questions: 1) Do you have any recommendations for good spray varnishes? (I can't find the model master laquer you used in the video). Both matt and gloss. 2) What good "varnish practice" would you recommend for getting properly protected and matt miniatures (for rpg/wargame gaming). I mean do you apply a gloss varnish first, and then a matt afterwards, and how many total do you recommend?
@ThePaintingClinic8 жыл бұрын
i always use Testors, so that is what I recommend. Two light coats is enough. Gloss then matt give more protection, but starts getting to thick and obvious to me.
@BryceChristiansen7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and help for newbies just getting started. I'm doing some Blood Bowl minis right now. You suggest doing two coats of the matt varnish, no gloss?
@KrogunDK7 жыл бұрын
Hello. I've bought a tube of Vallejo Matt Varnish, and I didn't notice that in on the back it suggests using it in an airbrush. I don't own one, and now my question is if it's possible to apply this with a brush. Perhaps it needs to be thinned in some way. I am painting noob, any advice is much appriciated. Thanks in advance.
@7bootzy7 жыл бұрын
I use that exact varnish and apply it with a brush. I usually dilute it with clean water first and brush it on in two quick, light layers.
@SaschaKleiber Жыл бұрын
Happened to me for the first time today, when I tried glossy varnish (brush on) from ak for the first time. I wanted to do double varnishing with glossy and then ultra matte. Got a lot of frosting, which never happened when only using matte varnish. Maybe it’s the different consistency of the gloss varnish (the ultra matte is like water, the gloss more like acrylic paint), maybe I put on too much, not sure. :(
@riku7243 Жыл бұрын
I meticulously painted 100 goblins, lined them up and proceeded to drown them in varnish. It turned all ONE HUNDRED GOBLINS shiny and grainy(had to double check that i was using matte!). Months of hard work ruined. I will be trying this trick out, will update with results.
@RobertsofRome9 жыл бұрын
Sooo humidity is bad? It's like 80% humidity here every day in New Orleans.
@Jpipooly3 жыл бұрын
You are a saint
@marcusmrb6 жыл бұрын
How do you clean your airbrush after using future wax? Ammonia?
@ThePaintingClinic6 жыл бұрын
Purple Power. It's best to break it down afterwards.
@project10299 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to varnish a model without obscuring detail at all or changing the amount of shine? also, should you water down paint on varnish? (specifically Citadel 'Ardcoat and Army painter anti-shine matt varnish)
@ThePaintingClinic9 жыл бұрын
project1029 Not really. Some make "clear" sprays, but they will still affect the finish. You likely shouldn't thin them as that would dilute the strength, but I have not used those specific ones. If you must, then maybe go with two coats.
@bellgrand5 жыл бұрын
If you spray, make sure it is 60-80F,
@Occhiodiargento9 жыл бұрын
I used coat d'arms matt varnish, and I couldnt remove the frosting doing what you said :(
@jamesmass1583 Жыл бұрын
It's happening to me in a warm garage. How do i fix that?
@SaePhantomhive8 жыл бұрын
i have a question. i used vallejo matte varnish premium color on resin, the weather was around 14 C and the humidty level 47% .. i sprayed indoor with the window opened, the varnish kinda got peeled off and chipped quickly even though i have sealed it three times, what do u think is the problem or the causes of that?
@ThePaintingClinic8 жыл бұрын
+Steven rawr Best guess is it's more an issue with what is underneath. Problem with the material, paint, or primer, etc.
@SaePhantomhive8 жыл бұрын
+Doctor Faust's Painting Clinic thank you for ur answer! it wasnt painted though.. it was previously painted and cleaned by winsor and newton brush cleaner and restorer and then washed with dishes soap. however i tested it on samples that werent painted before and it didnt peel off , just scratches kinda fast
@johnsonnavinr25228 жыл бұрын
i have painted my friends minis but it is now decemeber in ND. would it be better to wait till spring to varnish as its far too cold and no ventilation indoors? whats the risk of paint removing from normal use over 3-4 months
@johnsonnavinr25228 жыл бұрын
oh and its for a board game. specter ops.
@ThePaintingClinic8 жыл бұрын
+JohnsonNavinR25 Just spray them outside and then bring them inside to the warmth. Make sure the can is at room temp.
@larrystewart81836 жыл бұрын
Best advice ever. I thought I ruined an imperial knight. Thank you.
@tolkienismaster10 жыл бұрын
I am using Vallejo and andrea matt varnish and I noticed that most of the time it result in a satin or gloss effect. Any tips or insight to what cause that? Much appreciated. Thanks.
@ThePaintingClinic10 жыл бұрын
Best guess is you're not shaking it enough or you're applying it when it's too cold and/or humid. Either that or it's just a crappy brand of matt.
@tolkienismaster10 жыл бұрын
ThePaintingClinic Thanks. Another question: I use Testor dullcote lacquer and sometimes it removes small patches of paint on the figure. Do you know why? Thanks again, sir.
@ThePaintingClinic10 жыл бұрын
***** That shouldn't happen unless you're using it over enamel or lacquer paint and touching it before fully dry.
@tolkienismaster10 жыл бұрын
ThePaintingClinic If I am not going to manipulate or game with the min,i is it really important or necessary that I varnish miniature? Thanks a lot.
@ThePaintingClinic10 жыл бұрын
***** No. But it also depends on if it's too glossy from an ink wash or whatnot.
@TheLighteningTroll6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't worked at all on my minis :(
@michaelinOZ8 жыл бұрын
What temp would you consider to be "cold" outside?
@ThePaintingClinic8 жыл бұрын
+Michael R I'm in So Cal, so below 75 is freezing for us.
@michaelinOZ8 жыл бұрын
Doctor Faust's Painting Clinic Haha. Here in Germany it's around 55 in the evenings now. Varnish dried just fine (Vallejo matt).
@ThePaintingClinic11 жыл бұрын
Testors Lusterless Flat
@kimmehh9 жыл бұрын
Should i gloss first, and then matt varnish?
@ThePaintingClinic9 жыл бұрын
Some people do believing it gives better protection. I don't because while thin, those layers do build up and you start to lose details and contrast.
@kimmehh9 жыл бұрын
Okay, it seems people who advocate doing it, do so because they are varnishing models for wargaming. I might try both my self, to see what i prefer :)
@adrianwilliams69085 жыл бұрын
It is a good idea for wargaming models
@TheGamesNexus4 жыл бұрын
I've added link to this tutorial in my article about miniature varnishing - alkony.enerla.net/english/the-nexus/miniatures-nexus/miniature-hobby/miniatures-how-to-use-varnish-on-miniatures-miniature-hobby-guide
@dustinboatman61346 жыл бұрын
Not to be a negative nancy, but this absolutely did not work for me. I am new to painting and painted a few minis and actually thought they looked decent, just to have them ruined by a stupid spray can of varnish. I did everything the can said, yet it frosted horribly. I spent hours looking for remedies and came across this method, as well as the olive oil one. I did both multiple times and they do absolutely nothing. If anything, they got worse from reapplying the varnish.
@mekko14135 жыл бұрын
Frosting is due to moisture in the air. Sometimes you can just recoat and when the varnish reactivates the previous layer it releases the moisture that is trapped. This can sometimes happen also if too far away and bubbles of air being trapped due to the varnish partially drying before it hits the model. This effect also happens in wood working which is where I learned to finish things. You need to be in a warm dry climate to varnish in. Here is an article on how to correct it on a wood surface some of this may help to correct but not sure how they would react to mini's with acrylic paint. homeguides.sfgate.com/fix-milky-finish-wood-47528.html I would advise using an airbrush in the house to apply your varnishes and multiple thin coats. One last piece of advice if you want some real protection go with two thin coats of each gloss, satin, matt. The gloss coat will give you the best protection and then the satin and matte combo will take the gloss away while providing some additional protection.
@RobertsofRome9 жыл бұрын
But yeah what if the humidity is too high?
@ThePaintingClinic9 жыл бұрын
RobertsofRome Then do exactly what I said in the video. Spray and warm it with a light.
@spencerdavis57758 жыл бұрын
I just sprayed a whole anglo-saxon army on a humid day and they all got frosted over. I spent the whole day re-washing and re-highlighting them so I wouldn't have to see them so messed up; and then I found this video the next day :(
@justinjanicki65613 жыл бұрын
I guess It’s gonna be hard to avoid frosting considering I live in Florida, a swamp state.
@thorinteague9893 жыл бұрын
I live in a pretty swampy area too up north, I seem to do pretty well. You don't have to do it outside if the local humidity is that bad. Get a dehumidifier and do it in a well ventilated dehumidified room or garage. (Garage is best)
@TheGamerZapocalypse5 жыл бұрын
I would rather use Gloss Varnish which does not cloud and has the best paint color vibrancy retention as well as providing the best protection than use Satin or Matte which always changes for the worse the color vibrancy especially metallics and provides the least amount of protection.
@jeremiahbachmann39014 жыл бұрын
Title the video "How to Varnish Miniatures".....doesn't show how to varnish miniatures in the video.
@Finn-McCool11 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt the validity of that technique. Blushing of Lacquer happens when there is moisture trapped under the surface/in the topcoat, oil doesn't seem to compute :) It may work as a retardant but still, proper technique solves 99.9% of these issues.
@FritzKissa6 жыл бұрын
Sorry to point out, but in this how to varnish video you actually didn't varnish anything :-)
@GreenskinHolland4 жыл бұрын
I just ruined some immortals. I hope this trick will help.
@rockkiller1242 жыл бұрын
This is why spray varnish is pain in the ass, ruined my minis for good