The New King of Grimdark Miniature Painting?

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A new contender has arisen in the field of grimdark miniature painting, Villainy Inks! We put them through their paces and directly compare them to their biggest competitor - streaking grime.
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@thepaintingphase Ай бұрын

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@Skelebob-sp7pn Ай бұрын

Was vaguely interested until I saw the price. Nope! Way too expensive for something which basically amounts to a fancily packaged oil wash.

@kevinchristoforou1519 Ай бұрын

Enamel not oil. Still expensive for what it is.

@tombrand236 26 күн бұрын

Agreed. Nearly bought one but with postage it was nearly £20. Too much I think

@BarokaiRein 28 күн бұрын

At like 12 pounds a bottle, this is a hard pass. I expect the product to be damn perfect if it costs that much, but this almost feels like the first draft of what these will be with the next iteration.

@GrimdarkCompendium Ай бұрын

🎉🎉 much appreciated and great video! Here are a few notes for those interested. Batch three is coming up, and here are the planned changes: New Caps - pipette is going away. New binder for Goons Grime, Dystopian Brown, Sector Rust, and Decay of Death for a more beginner friendly formulation. The idea behind the current binder on Villainy Ink Enamels was to be able to have the colors mentioned above to be able to dry anywhere from glossy to matte. The learning on this is steep, however, so I will make the change to accommodate. As a final note, I will say that Villainy Ink, particularly Goons Grime, were not intended to be Ak Replacement and essentially works differently. Buuuuut... this color range has blown up far beyond what I expected, and all sorts of folks are now trying out enamel for the first time or looking to replace AK with Villainy Ink due to their much lower levels of toxicty 😅. So we hit a far broader audience than expected. So batch 3 should be exactly what people are looking for: much easier to handle, lowest toxicity in the enamel market, FUN! 😊😊 Thanks again! 🎉

@tonta182 Ай бұрын

It´s like buying chilli spice bottles, the cooler the lable the better the spice so i heard... i buy my paints with the same principles, better get a set of those Village inks asap!

@FauxHammer Ай бұрын

I love the fact that yours dries matte to glossy, please don't change... teach us master!

@GrimdarkCompendium Ай бұрын

@FauxHammer working on it!! That's why I'm taking my time with batch 3. I am trying not to compromise too much on my vision.

@FauxHammer Ай бұрын

@@GrimdarkCompendium Never give up - never surrender! - Commander Quincy Taggart,

@jakebull8874 Ай бұрын

I'm glad I got 2 of the starter boxes then if its changing, I love it the way it is. That should last a looooong time as im diluting a lot as i use them. After watching the deep voice guy on grimdark comp testing on trench crusade, they have become my favourite paints ❤

@ka5141 Ай бұрын

yeah i have these, i had to clean half of the pippettes out with spirit - it's a quick way of doing it and you only need to do it once

@SleepyGhst 9 күн бұрын

Great review of these. I love them and it’s cool seeing a great content creators actually using them as intended.

@thepaintingphase 8 күн бұрын

Thanks so much.

@lilpain1997 4 күн бұрын

I got myself dystopian brown and the crimson one for skin. I really like them. I can put it all over and then just rub off in areas instead of re painting over it with standard washes. The price is pretty steep, though compared to other brands.

@simplyshaws 7 күн бұрын

Used these for a while. There great in a batch pinch but there best when they mix together. 100% needs an agitator. I use it mainly when I'm banging out armies.

@Spine1337 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the honesty. I feel like this is one those "wait for the gen 2 product".

@thepaintingphase Ай бұрын

Quite possibly, i did struggle and didn't want to lie. Others have done well however so I will ask for some tips.

@AlexAttemptsTabletop 24 күн бұрын

Great video & the thought of spending £12 for that blood ink is quite tempting 😅 (Not fussed on the rest AK grime has always served me well) Love the podcast/chat videos but this video really shows what else you can offer etc Really lovely stuff all round 👏

@Jamgeoso Ай бұрын

Great video. I like the look of these inks as they feel more like a wash to me which is what I'd prefer having used a lot of oil washes.

@davetomley3145 Ай бұрын

Great video. Really like the honesty and also the great reaction in the comments. More and better tools have already driven painting quality (and importantly for me - ease) forward. I left this pass alone deliberately to see what the reality was and am glad I did, but reckon the next iteration will join my painting supplies 👍

@liampycroft1834 Ай бұрын

These look awesome 👌 I really need to use my inks far more often. I think I'm just nervous that I'll paint a miniature, then ruin it with the inks. But I do have tue Taro tester plates. Ps. That flesh is amazing 👏

@Derpa_Derpa_777 23 күн бұрын

Awesome advice! I’m super happy I watched this. I am totally sold on the crimson. As you said it’s the most unique of the washes since that color really doesn’t exist anywhere else. I’m disappointed to see the massive inflated price of Villainy Inks so I do not think I’ll get the whole set. I will also watch some other videos on them as you suggested. Thanks again!

@thepaintingphase 22 күн бұрын

Happy to help, thanks for watching 🤠

@Chimer24-qs5wo Ай бұрын

Great review Patrick, and an honest one. I'm still interested in trying Villainy Inks but I'll wait for Batch Three [mentioned below by their creator]. Your finished minis looked fabulous. Thank you )O(

@OlafThorsson3 21 күн бұрын

I'm a massive fan of the grim dark style. Oils and enamels are liberating and I hardly used streak and grime. Dark wash is my go to despite the chalkiness. I'm painting Blissarb Archers so I'm fine tuning "Clean Dark" and villainy inks ichor of the damned is amazing for that balance. The Feral Painter does some amazing work with them and show cases different techniques. Yeah it's expensive but so much more flexible than AK washes. I'll be ditching my previous washes for Villainy inks. You did miss out on some important info with what makes them superior over enamel washes. I do think that the comparison is chalk and cheese due the formula of Villiany Inks.

@cantstraferight Ай бұрын

I just got some Villiany Inks and needing to shake the pot first was my big takeaway from my first attempt at using them.

@Pork-Pie-Pete81 Ай бұрын

Those paint jobs are amazing. I think grim dark/weathered is your jam. You are very skilled in this area. Thanks for the review. I'm glad im not the only one finding these inks a bit temperamental, I thought i was just being an enamel noob.

@thepaintingphase Ай бұрын

I'm not sure I'd say very skilled. Happy to be proven wrong about my thoughts etc. but I definitely struggled a bit!

@FloorSweepersUnion Ай бұрын

Good idea to recommend a respirator to punters, if they’re airbrushing enamels. Super toxic if atomised.

@codywebb8572 Ай бұрын

Thank You for an honest review. 👍

@Greywolf1066 Ай бұрын

I love them, and use them in concurrence with AK Interactive, Ammo from Mig ,traditional oils and acrylics.

@thepaintingphase Ай бұрын

Awesome, glad you like them!

@Lpziel Ай бұрын

Nice review, thanks! Out of curiosity, how do these compare with using diluted artist oil paints like w&n oils? For the price of 1 bottle of villany you could make up to 250mls of wash from w&n paint + sansodor medium! How are these dedicated ones better?

@thepaintingphase Ай бұрын

I'm not entirely sure they would be "better" really, just different. Solely on price oils are a no-brainer. Huge range of colours in oils too and results/process would be similar do you think?

@Lpziel 29 күн бұрын

@@thepaintingphase I think that the process is probably similar. Just getting into oils myself so don't have much experience yet. Guess they are a bit of a DIY solution and maybe not everyone likes experimenting on their plastic.

@slackeratlarge575 Ай бұрын

Very cool

@the_badger_brush Ай бұрын

“Spinny Results Time” love it 😂

@thepaintingphase Ай бұрын

Everyone loves spinny results time 🫠

@TheSixYardBox Ай бұрын

Use eye shadow applicators rather than cotton buds, you don't get bits stringing all over the model and they're way more accurate if you use the sharp end and you could easily clean those pipettes with some spirit

@mrsmiley92 Ай бұрын

Q-tips are way cheaper

@thepaintingphase Ай бұрын

Good point ☝️ I'll check them out. I also got a big pack of makeup sponges but forgot to try them

@TheSixYardBox Ай бұрын

@@thepaintingphase yeah the make up sponges can be great for getting loads off quickly and you can tear them into whatever shape you want

@TheSixYardBox Ай бұрын

@@mrsmiley92 there's really not much price difference here in the uk between cotton buds and eyeshadow applicators. You also don't get left with stringing all over the model

@lilpain1997 4 күн бұрын

Never had issues with q tips. Just dab the mini and don't rub like a maniac.

@kealyj Ай бұрын

"'I'd love to never say the word pipette again" - call it a dropper instead!

@thepaintingphase Ай бұрын

A rubber nipple tube sqeezey

@kealyj Ай бұрын

@@thepaintingphase that sounds too hot for KZfaq but I’m told there’s a good market for that sort of thing on the internet.

@ashes2ashesuk Ай бұрын

Thanks, as a mediocre painter, I think that these are more a tool for someone who really needs that specific effect. Streaking grime looks like a better choice

@thepaintingphase Ай бұрын

🔨 💅 🗣️

@eduardop727 Ай бұрын

I've heard some negative things that the product has a lot of large chunks inside. Happy to see a review on it.

@Mungotastic Ай бұрын

I love Steaks, not so keen on grime though

@pete104242 Ай бұрын

thats why I came to comment. Steaking grime has me torn.

@thepaintingphase Ай бұрын

oooooooooops, thanks.

@crispy_338 13 күн бұрын

Honestly $12 for a nice enamel wash is a decent price if you’re doing grimdark quite a bit. Plus they’re nicer to use than AK because they’re a bit thicker and don’t just run everywhere. And frankly if you can’t afford to spend some cash on paints or airbrushes then maybe this hobby isn’t for you

@Ennio444 6 күн бұрын

Dirty down rust tends to whiten out and lose vibrancy when exposed to sunlight. I had a fantastic piece of terrain with richness of colors with DDR, but after 2 years, it's now dark, muted, and the bright yellows and oranges have become pale pink and white. So beware.

@rcharboneau8782 26 күн бұрын

It blows my mind that people will spend hundreds on minis and then hesitate on a great tool like a $20 vortex mixer

@gi1dor 23 күн бұрын

Vortex Mixer worth every penny which I spent on it

@nojoho Ай бұрын

I also identify as blind adjacent.

@mrsmiley92 Ай бұрын

How long did you let the enamels sit before wiping them off with white spirits?

@thepaintingphase Ай бұрын

Streaking grime, less than 5 minutes. The first Villainy ink probably over an hour.

@FrozenThrog Ай бұрын

I don't like name of villainy "inks". They should have chosen something else as to not confuse it with regular inks.

@thepaintingphase Ай бұрын

Agreed, it does sound cool though.

@manapause Ай бұрын

Oily Villains

@FauxHammer Ай бұрын

Villainy Enamels?

@FrozenThrog Ай бұрын

@@FauxHammer I'll take it. Not as catchy, but certainly more descriptive.

@jacket2848 Ай бұрын

Almost 3 times the price and issues with the bottle, sod that. Don't need to watch much further :D

@peterwitczak3124 24 күн бұрын

Agrax earthshade works just fine.

@thepaintingphase 23 күн бұрын

Streaking grime and agrax are almost the same price now. Crazy.

@peterwitczak3124 23 күн бұрын

@thepaintingphase Agreed! I've only needed one bottle for my whole army, though. In my opinion, it gives DG the best look.

@innerforce7395 20 күн бұрын

They leave a greasy gloss in the miniature... so no I prefer other enamels

@WillMorrey Ай бұрын

This is properly useful consumer programming... along with enjoying the chat shows, hobby chatter and so on, _this_ is the other side of your content that hooks me to you Patreon. 🫶🏼🤝🏻 I find the approach of adding a product and then removing much/most of it weird at the best of times but to have an awkward product on top of that, nope, not for me. Thanks Painting Phase for taking that plunge and being lemmings for us. I found the same sort of feeling from the airbrush comparison/review episode as I find them tempting but overly off-putting hassle.

@pbkobold Ай бұрын

If it feels awkward, Marco Frisoni is a pro mini painter worth watching to see oil wash subtractive processes at their best. He sold me on oil washes for speed painting.