Bluff 3-Betting With Blockers Preflop | Poker Quick Plays

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10 жыл бұрын

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Everyone loves to bluff 3bet, but did you know that blockers can help you make even more money? In this video SplitSuit discusses how blockers influence your opponent's ranges and how the outright EV of the 3bet can change. We also discuss the value of blockers when considering postflop (the times our 3bet doesn't succeed and gets called), and compare the equity of some different hand types. If you want to get more aggressive preflop, this concept is hugely valuable!
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@jamakasis18
@jamakasis18 7 жыл бұрын
I block with AA, cuz you know, two less aces for villains.
@texasdrz9515
@texasdrz9515 3 жыл бұрын
I fold AA because of the reverse implied odds if the villain makes their hand.
@VictorjfRocha
@VictorjfRocha 2 жыл бұрын
@@texasdrz9515 epic
@TheNightmareFish
@TheNightmareFish 7 жыл бұрын
It's important to have a plan for the flop too Mine is: If they call, I fucking panic
@gotanyketchup3422
@gotanyketchup3422 5 жыл бұрын
Love your channel man! Great advice all around
@fundiver198
@fundiver198 7 жыл бұрын
One important thing to notice is, that if you are using PokerTracker 4 as your HUD program, then it calculate fold vs. 3-bet for any situation, where you had money in the pot and folded to a 3-bet. This means, that if you are in the blinds, and the pot has been 3-bet, when action gets to you, this will count in your fold vs. 3-bet number. So this number from your HUD can not be directly translated into, how often someone fold to a 3-bet, after they open raised. I have a very passive reg in one of my games, which I have collected 600 hands on. His stats say VPIP = 17, PRF = 3, 3-bet = 3 and fold vs. 3-bet = 100. If you look at these thats without understanding, how they are created, you might draw the conclusion, that 3-betting this guy is hugely profitable, because his fold vs. 3-bet is 100%. But since he only open 3% of hands, the vast majority of 3-bets, which he face, is, when he is in the blinds. This is even more true, because when he open this tight, other regs have probably picked up on that as well, and adjusted by not 3-betting him. So even though the 100% is 18 out of 18, the number is pretty much useless and should NOT be used as a reason to 3-bet this guy.
@gogonoise
@gogonoise 5 жыл бұрын
Or you could use the PT4 stat "fold to 3bet after rasing"
@karlinchina
@karlinchina 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Very informative. I was wondering if you could comment on two other button 3-betting strategies I've read about: 1) The polarized range: 3-betting with premiums as well as hands at the bottom of the calling range (Q2s, T7o, for example) 2) Middle suited connectors or gappers (T8s, 87s for example)...or those hands plus premiums. This can give you two live cards against two unpaired overcards as well as a lower pair, plus the chance to make a straight or flush in position.
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 10 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome. 1. SplitSuit discusses the value of polarized v depolarized ranges here: forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78/micro-stakes-full-ring/cotw-understanding-polarization-802045/ 2. For sure. Using suited gapper type hands can be great since you like if villains fold preflop, and if they don't your hand has a lot of options going postflop (among other things, you can represent big cards while playing middle ones)
@thiagocarniel3977
@thiagocarniel3977 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! just as a correction, even though the result is the same, the EV increase is miscalculated. the percentages were rounded too roughly and since it involves small changes it makes a difference. $4,5*(190-62)/190 - $9*(62)/190 = $0.095 $4,5*(168-51)/190 - $9*(51)/190 = $0.402 using your analysis, The EV increases 4.2 times
@CorvetteAustin24
@CorvetteAustin24 10 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video!
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@LilMOMMAson
@LilMOMMAson 5 жыл бұрын
Guess I need to start taking my graphing calculator, pencil & paper to the poker table.
@ericanderson8667
@ericanderson8667 10 жыл бұрын
Do you have any videos or posts where we could learn to proof our plays further given different scenarios like you mentioned but said it would take to much time? I would really like to understand the math! Thanks for all the videos they are awesome!
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 10 жыл бұрын
We don't have any videos on using it, but the software CardRunners EV would be your best bet for super in-depth mathematical exploration of line vs line. You are very welcome for the videos.
@alfonsocomic
@alfonsocomic 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome content man
@nickknowles8402
@nickknowles8402 9 жыл бұрын
these videos may seem simple but 99% of regs have no clue about ne of this
@luke69901
@luke69901 8 жыл бұрын
Hey man I love the vids, do you know of any channels similar to yours that are maninly STT/MTT based? Thanks, keep up the good work!
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 8 жыл бұрын
+Luke Barnett have you checked out Gripsed channel? kzfaq.info
@The31JOEISANERDS
@The31JOEISANERDS 6 жыл бұрын
what would be the characteristics of a spot where this is good, short handed, big effective stack?
@allicereed5041
@allicereed5041 10 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video for about 3betting from the SB and Btn for 6max, please.
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 10 жыл бұрын
I'll pass that topic to SplitSuit. That being said, you may get a lot from this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fa5gqZSLv8jLiIE.html (the hands at full ring still carry over to 6max conceptually)
@hallespartaj8132
@hallespartaj8132 3 жыл бұрын
How do you count the combos in the range
@fergonzalez1584
@fergonzalez1584 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos, the only thing I understood is half because the taductor from youtube to spanish is horrible
@spshugyosha
@spshugyosha 6 жыл бұрын
This video is a jewel :)
@ghostmutt4265
@ghostmutt4265 7 жыл бұрын
then u get called and flop comes A K 5 and he shoves.....
@era0088
@era0088 6 жыл бұрын
and they're all clubs
@rabitozoctuikalon943
@rabitozoctuikalon943 5 жыл бұрын
And you call
@needpit1
@needpit1 5 жыл бұрын
And they got you beat with Q 7 of clubs. Cuz they tought the queen as a high card is very valueable preflop. Then you proceed to cry and try to find a real job
@libraguy8550
@libraguy8550 5 жыл бұрын
This is too accurate lol
@josha4869
@josha4869 6 жыл бұрын
Is the added ev of ax 3 bet enough to offset reverse implied odds of playing a weak ace
@rogerdickens6218
@rogerdickens6218 2 жыл бұрын
1. That player in the HJ seems really tight. 2. There is a chance that the SB or BB could call your 3-bet or 4-bet you. 3. You still have some equity postflop, and if the HJ folds 67% of hands to a 3-bet, you can 3-bet most of your hands, or perhaps, any 2 cards because of the postflop equity. 4. According to your analysis (assuming the SB and BB always fold and that you lose if the HJ continues), it becomes profitable to bluff hands like T4o, Q6o, and even 72o.
@dawidd8054
@dawidd8054 2 жыл бұрын
thx
@Ilaay23
@Ilaay23 3 жыл бұрын
Would you do this as well would like K5 suited or A3 offsuit?
@tomdavies3680
@tomdavies3680 3 жыл бұрын
Those hands are quite a bit worse if you get called. not liking it with A5s either tbf
@oyuyuy
@oyuyuy 10 жыл бұрын
So any thought on 3 betting KQo? You rarely win big with this hand anyway, and it has double the blockers?
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 10 жыл бұрын
That can certainly be a valid play in many instances
@str5485
@str5485 6 жыл бұрын
Is blauff 3bet good if we are out of position,e.g in SB and we blauff 3bet the CU or Button?And what other blockers can we use in blauff 3bet?E.g KJoff 3bet in an MP open?Thanks SP!
@Vox24
@Vox24 5 жыл бұрын
Against good players that attempt to steal the blinds, 3bet could be used depending on their steal %. In mid position you still have a bunch of players left to act behind you, so KJo is generally not a good 3bet, unless you're up against very tight opponents, in which case a light 3bet might work.
@Parallacks
@Parallacks 10 жыл бұрын
My question would be around the post-flop equity that you say we get with A5s against the call. In your other video about weak Ax hands, you say even if you hit your A, you're still not going to want to get into a big pot. So what do you do if there's an A on the board post-flop and you already know there's a good chance opponent also has an A based on your ranges?
@splitsuit
@splitsuit 10 жыл бұрын
My equity comment is in a hot/cold sense against likely continuance ranges. But if you have A5 and the flop is Axx and you think villain has a lot of Ax (which of course beats your A5), my goal would be to pot control. But against a range of 99+/AQ+ with A5s on A76, A5s is best 64% of the time. Even on AJ8, A5s is best 55% of the time
@Parallacks
@Parallacks 10 жыл бұрын
James (SplitSuit) Awesome thanks
@splitsuit
@splitsuit 10 жыл бұрын
CJ Perretta you're very welcome!
@AutPen38
@AutPen38 9 жыл бұрын
This is great. A5s is a great light 3-bet.
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 9 жыл бұрын
+1 and thanks Arty!
@bhargavaiitb
@bhargavaiitb 9 жыл бұрын
Hi PokerBank, I have been regularly watching all your videos and you are truly my inspiration on how I approach poker. I made a lot of +EV decisions during the last 4-5 months, under the guidance of your videos. I would like to ask one think, Will Bluff 3-Betting with blockers be a good strategy in 5NL games,(0.02$/0.05$ stakes) online on pokerstars,?
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 9 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad the videos have been helping you! Most players at 5NL don't fold a lot, so bluffing there is much tougher (but value 3betting becomes vital). That being said, there are still players that will fold to 3bets at 5NL if you look for them
@bhargavaiitb
@bhargavaiitb 9 жыл бұрын
The Poker Bank : Thanks for the reply. Also people steal in 5NL some times. Do u think 3 betting them as a re-steal will be a +EV in long run.
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 9 жыл бұрын
bhargava reddy If you think they'll fold a ton to your resteal, of if you have a +EV plan going forward...for sure
@DaAm4t3urist
@DaAm4t3urist 8 жыл бұрын
+The Poker Bank There are more tight players than you would expect nowadays, microstakes on pokerstars..
@dungdanghuu1037
@dungdanghuu1037 10 жыл бұрын
nice
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Aceinthehole1179
@Aceinthehole1179 6 жыл бұрын
Who has time to do all this at the table??
@Vox24
@Vox24 5 жыл бұрын
It is not about doing it at the table on the spot, it's about understanding when and how such hands should be played. Often times you'll have to act instinctively at the table, but studying poker strategy will sharpen your insticts.
@VictorRamirez-
@VictorRamirez- 7 ай бұрын
I think sometimes all this dont matter and just play the player’s
@Optimum-Price
@Optimum-Price 2 жыл бұрын
I 3 bet and villian calls and even though i have an ace blocker he smooth calls with AA and stacks me 😂
@KimiiiRaikkonen
@KimiiiRaikkonen 5 жыл бұрын
Feels like realistic would be villain continuing with almost every hand they chose to open. Rarely see people fold to 3bets..
@Vox24
@Vox24 5 жыл бұрын
3bet callers should be 3beted with big value hands, I'd say at most AA-TT, AK-AJ, KQs
@afxcrush41
@afxcrush41 7 жыл бұрын
You sound like Doug Polk
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 7 жыл бұрын
You sound like Afx Crush :)
@MrMrilikepie1234
@MrMrilikepie1234 7 жыл бұрын
Are you saying James Sweeney is Doug Polk? How was your WSOP win?
@JESUSandPoker
@JESUSandPoker 9 жыл бұрын
Is it hard being as cool as you? I would imagine so.
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 9 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's pretty easy being this cool :)
@glazed420
@glazed420 9 жыл бұрын
How does all the math work if your always facing new players?
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 9 жыл бұрын
The math is static, but the ranges you assign are very dynamic. With experience you are able to estimate 'default' ranges for random players in your game.
@JustinTravis
@JustinTravis 3 жыл бұрын
Villain prob isn't folding an Ace or any pair to a 3 bet in a 6 handed game. Prob isn't folding 2 face cards either. What if he shoves? What if he calls and an Ace hits. Now what? Or worse an Ace and another face card. You have to fold and you wasted a 3 bet. The only thing you are really hopping for is a draw or flopping 2 pair, even a draw isn't going to give you good pot odds if you're heads up and villain will certainly make you pay. A flopped 2 pair is really the only thing you're comfortable with. I can't see 3 betting with blockers as +EV in the long run. I'd rather flat call in hopes to smash the flop with 2 pair or a flopped flush. Better yet instead of playing blockers, play connectors or one or two gap suited cards. This way it's cheaper and if you do hit, usually villain won't put you on those hands.
@theoutsmarter7662
@theoutsmarter7662 10 жыл бұрын
The analysis is furthermore wrong, because the other players ranges (blinds for instance) are neglected; however, the general idea holds: blockers are relatively important
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 10 жыл бұрын
The players in the blinds have random hands. Their random cards are so negligible that ignoring them is acceptable
@TYinNYC
@TYinNYC 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I have an AK, villain has AA
@theoutsmarter7662
@theoutsmarter7662 10 жыл бұрын
The math is wrong: You counted ak twice in the combos; it's not 190 but 174
@splitsuit
@splitsuit 10 жыл бұрын
Actually we are both wrong. It's 194
@theoutsmarter7662
@theoutsmarter7662 10 жыл бұрын
6 X 13 for pocket pairs and 6 x16 = 174 combos
@splitsuit
@splitsuit 10 жыл бұрын
And the 4 * 5 combos of suited connectors, for a total of 194 combos
@malcolmlamphere3834
@malcolmlamphere3834 8 жыл бұрын
This video fails to include that number of times people behind you also call or three bet.The profitablility of this play is highly exaggerated in this video, particularly when you are on the button. The people behind you have reasonably good chance of having hands like 99+, AJ+, and KQs. If you include the call/three bet frequency with this range, I doubt this is nearly as profitable as claimed. Maybe from the big blind it is very profitable, but from the button not as much.
@ThePokerBank
@ThePokerBank 8 жыл бұрын
+Malcolm me Hey Malcolm! Two quick things: 1. If people are cold-calling 3bets OOP with AJ you are in a very good game 2. 99+/AJ+/KQ is 7.5% of hands. So it's not like the SB/BB will either/both have those hands a ton of the time - and even less so if you have an Ax or Kx blocker in your hand.
@Vox24
@Vox24 5 жыл бұрын
The blockers are still blockers regardless of position. 3beting from the button guarantees you position in case of being called, which is a situation to seek, more so when you got rag Aces I'd say.
@MrWciesciebanan
@MrWciesciebanan 7 жыл бұрын
Trust me, it doesn't work in online poker. To many idiots which calls everything.
@BorussiaComps
@BorussiaComps 7 жыл бұрын
Then don't 3-bet them light, if they call everything 3-bet them with wide range of strong hands and invite them to make bad calls with suited connectors or mid-pairs which you have much more equity against. Simple.
@dylanhom58
@dylanhom58 6 жыл бұрын
“Trust me” ....you’re right, I’ll trust your anecdotal experience online vs a seasoned vet like splitsuit. That makes sense
@ceesdiele9758
@ceesdiele9758 6 жыл бұрын
Its just as in CS GO. Noobs don't obey te rules and you will be surprised by them :P
@thiagocarniel3977
@thiagocarniel3977 5 жыл бұрын
as the video shows, if your opponent folds less than 66.7%, than your EV is negative, just dont 3bet these kind of players with Ax
@edubb6974
@edubb6974 7 жыл бұрын
making my head hurt...just play
@meddem7060
@meddem7060 2 жыл бұрын
Is something wrong with your voice?
@jamespar3064
@jamespar3064 5 жыл бұрын
None of this matters. It's all luck.
@liveslowlivesimple
@liveslowlivesimple 4 жыл бұрын
if youre a fish yes
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