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Don't make these mistakes with your NVMe SSD installation - NVMe tips and tricks
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Күн бұрынIn this video, we're going to be talking about some of the most common mistakes that people make when installing a NVMe SSD, and how to avoid them. We're also going to be going over some of the best ways to measure the performance of a NVMe SSD, and dispel some of the myths about NVMe PCIe speeds.
If you're looking to install a NVMe SSD in your computer, then this video is for you! We'll cover everything from the basics of NVMe SSDs to the best way to install them. We'll also discuss some of the key factors to consider when choosing a NVMe SSD, and how to measure their performance.
The process for installing is really easy but may vary depending on your motherboard - some have heatsinks and different screw setups. It's also worth checking your manual as you may find that not all the drives work the same way.
NVMe installation is easy in theory but it's important to keep these things in mind:
- Use the top spot where possible to ensure x4 PCIe lanes
- Remove any plastic stickers from heatsinks and shields
- Use thermal pads to disperse heat
- If you install multiple drives this may reduce PCIe lanes available for your GPU
- You may need to change settings in your BIOS
- When installing in Windows use the Disk Management/Create a partition settings to set the drive up
- Always benchmark to make sure it's running as it should be.
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@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Other videos to watch: Is your M.2 NVMe port slower than you realise? Not all M.2 ports give equal speeds kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h6pxnbJet9rGpYU.html How to clone/copy Windows to a new drive and why you should kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kN6qf6p92JmdpHU.html How to install Kingston Fury Renegade kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kL6GnLJmsLWtnGQ.html Essential things to do when you first build your PC kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNGahM2g39PenI0.html I made some mistakes with this Lian Li Evo build kzfaq.info/get/bejne/atyTZbNe09S9ZXk.html Do not make this stupid mistake kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fpykpMuAnafYnqs.html How to get more FPS with your Nvidia RTX GPU kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zst-ibyj15y-dJs.html
@sashomedia 3 ай бұрын
At Disk Formatting section of the video, it is good to be mentioned of 10-20% of the total amount of the disk space, to be left as unlocated for long reliability and data integrity of the SSD disks
@LifeIsButaBluff Жыл бұрын
You should check the MB manual for the bifurcation table which will detail PCIE lane sharing details.
@danieldelgado6552 Жыл бұрын
Love this! I just recently added my SSD to the wrong slot after checking in Samsung magician. I'm still new to the custom PC space, so videos like this help me out a ton! Thanks for the tips/guide!
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@hansvanderniet9376 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. I just installed a 2nd 4TB ssd on the motherboard, and it didn't show, but after watching your video above regarding "disk management " it came alive 😊
@TheProvokedPrawn 4 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
@BadHorsie1 2 ай бұрын
did it show in bios?
@Murph9000 Жыл бұрын
It's not always the top slot. Some boards steal PCIe 5 lanes from the GPU in the top slot (M.2_1), reducing your GPU from x16 to x8. This would be less of an issue with a PCIe 5 GPU, but the current generation of GPUs are PCIe 4, and will lose performance. The correct slot for a gen 4 drive can be M.2_2, if the board routes the CPU's x4 lanes there.
@Wedgeman_Riley Жыл бұрын
thats why you dont buy intel, ryzen doesnt have this problem because it has 28 gen 5 lanes on the 7000 series
@crisnmaryfam7344 Жыл бұрын
Its a good general rule of thumb, but if you are assembling your own PC motherboard up, then you can take the time to read some labels or the owners manual to see what is the proper slot for gen 4 support. Some boards even have the "dimm .2" slots next to the ram that allow 2 nvme similar to his pcie dual nvme card.
@Sl0th150 Жыл бұрын
@@Wedgeman_Riley really random and kind of irrelevant to the current topic but thoughts on the x670e-a strix mobo? Trying to find a white one that would go with a 7950x especially after seeing your comment about the 28 gen 5 lanes.
@Arcangel2992 Жыл бұрын
@@Wedgeman_Riley that’s convenient, I have an x570 board with a 5800x and I was worried about adding another NVME
@Wedgeman_Riley Жыл бұрын
@@Sl0th150 the x670e gaming is a good motherboard if your willing to spend alot and will work well with the 7950x because it has good power delivery and enough gen 5 lanes to support a gpu and 2 nvme ssds at gen 5 which is the most the board supports and still has enough gen 5 lanes for any expansion cards like an elgato capture card
@TheLordNugget Жыл бұрын
I will say, that you should check your motherboard's manual before installing. My Asus ROG Strix B650 mobo doesn't state that one slot is better than another. My old Asrock X370 Tai Chi directed me to put the sata drive in the top slot and the NVMe drive in the second slot for full speeds.
@MrCan3112 Жыл бұрын
How did you install your m.2? Die you use the rubber pad to prevent the m.2 from bending?
@localnemesis82 Жыл бұрын
Just read the manual it will tell you which pci slot combo would work to get the maximum speed. It is actually better to read about it before buying the mobo ☺️.
@rudysal1429 Жыл бұрын
Yup, and if you need to change the pciex16 to x8 so you can use the other slot. Had to figure this out on my server the other day. Also chipsets will usually tell you which have more m.2 slots and support full speeds.
@netizen9329 9 ай бұрын
Happy to see NVMe slot between CPU and peg slot. I was the engineer inside Intel added a nvme to desktop in Skylake time keeping atx form factor.
@jcesparza7490 Жыл бұрын
Thanks installed extra ssd and I didn’t see it on pc, followed your easy steps and I am good to go. Thanks.
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@hexcei Жыл бұрын
This seems to be a very underrated channel, the content is excellent. One question I had and was confusing from the manual, is there a difference or something to be aware of when installing NVME double sided vs single. It mentions rubber grommets and seems slot dependent looking at a ASUS z790 manual. - Cheers
@83n80y Жыл бұрын
If it's double-sided then you'll need cooling on both sides. The rubber pads they often provide would buffer the metal on the bottom side from scratching the motherboard and preventing shorts. You won't see a double-sided NVMe unless you're using a very high capacity drive. All the 2TB and less I've seen are single-sided. You can tell by where the memory chips are. The back side will only have a sticker.
@glynndavies2335 Жыл бұрын
Followed your instructions on my 10 year old pc after purchasing a ssd. Thank you so much for the information as my computer is like new now and it was so easy to do using your instructions 😀 😊
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
👍
@abrahamarmani2693 Жыл бұрын
The P.Prawn just gave a whole bunch of crucial info on PCI NVMe that every mid-level user has to know. what makes it better is that it was delivered effectively under 10 minutes. Bravoooo
@rankisdumb214 Жыл бұрын
I never thought to check the m.2 speed/lanes. I have 1 firecuda 530 2tb and 2 Samsung 980pro 1tb. I remember using the magician software on my ddr4 board and when I used their benchmark it never reached the rated speed. This is probably the reason. God there's so much to learn.
@Starsnu1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks you for these great tips. I don't have any Gen 4 stuff yet, but I'll make sure my 3 NVMe's are working properly thanks to your video!
@iamamish Жыл бұрын
I don't think you mentioned it, one thing I'd add is that for whatever reason, the retention screws for M.2 drives are exceptionally easy to strip. After stripping two of them, I went and bought an IFixIt kit. You don't really need to go that far, but you probably want to make sure you're using a Phillips #1 bit. Often it doesn't matter w/ Phillips heads, but in this case it does.
@elm4nsuri Жыл бұрын
nah. only you had to be careful of this.....
@iamamish Жыл бұрын
@@elm4nsuri Certainly possible! But I've never had this issue with any other screw type, and yet I've had the problem each time I've had to install an M.2 drive.
@taylormeyer671 Жыл бұрын
There's really no reason to overtighten any screws on a PC. Working on a car it could happen but stripping a screw on a PC is completely out of the question.
@iamamish Жыл бұрын
@@taylormeyer671 for me the issue wasn't overtightening - the issue was that the bit didn't fit very well. The M2 screws really want a P1 bit. Normally with other screws you can use other phillips bits, but not for the M2
@uncrunch398 Жыл бұрын
It's always a best practice to use a bit that fits the screw snug. Philips was intended to prevent overtightening though. If you have precise control of your driver, torx would be better if it's an option. Over tightening is bad, slamming the tip of a driver into a circuit board is much worse.
@gibbysworldoftech Жыл бұрын
As always a soothing and helpful guide for this nutty new technology. As some have mentioned, you should definitely be looking at your motherboard manual. I think people try to wing it too much and with m.2 you cannot do that. Many people don't know you will often lose the use of a few sata ports when using m.2 on certain slots as well. I check m.2 configuration before I even buy a motherboard so I know it will work for my need.
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
True
@drunkhusband6257 Жыл бұрын
New? The tech is like 10 years old now
@Lockjaw7192 Жыл бұрын
@@drunkhusband6257 some people are upgrading to a motherboard with NVME support for the first time. i got some used PC parts about 2 months ago and it was the first motherboard i owned with NVME support. i had no idea NVME slots would disable SATA ports on the motherboard. I had my optical drive plugged into sata port 6 and then installed my secondary NVMe SSD. then i wondered if my Bluray drive broke. nope. the NVMe being plugged in disabled SATA ports 5 and 6.
@JohnDoeWasntTaken 9 ай бұрын
@@drunkhusband6257 Yup, my Z97 motherboard has an M.2 slot, definitely not as new as one would think.
@jirehla-ab1671 4 ай бұрын
Is it possible to boot into u.2 ssd if its inserted to an u.2 to m.2 adapter?@@TheProvokedPrawn
@Voidrunner01 Жыл бұрын
You can just right-click the Windows start button and go right to disk management directly in Windows 11. If I remember right, the same shortcut works in 10 as well.
@esmereldaerasmus1783 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video this is the First time installing a SSD like this, Really helped
@ThoRax1337 Жыл бұрын
Would be intrested in knowing which Case you showed in this video? It looked so nice and clean!
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
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@noOnieya Жыл бұрын
Coolest PC building channel(sorry if that's limiting or making modest)if I ever saw one.
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍
@Goatshaver 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! This was perfect info for me to install my new NVME SSD.
@kiranaric Жыл бұрын
It was just a normal (though very informative) tech vid until the moment you popped on screen in that brilliant costume. The moment I saw that I clicked like, you didn't even have to say it! You brilliant legend, you! Edit: I just noticed the channel name, lol!
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Ha. Now I'm wondering how many people don't notice the name and are confused at the end.
@kiranaric Жыл бұрын
@@TheProvokedPrawn lol that's entirely possible. I thought you were a weird looking rabbit at first!
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
@@kiranaric lol
@jamodpower2 Жыл бұрын
I know you might not see my comment amongst all the other comments, but you sir, are a fantastic KZfaqr and creator. This was seriously a high quality and educating video. I appreciate your effort and time you spend to make this video!
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Thanks. That's very nice of you
@ABAtrading Жыл бұрын
I didn’t have a screw but I read on Reddit somones been using it without m.2 screw without any issues for a little over 3 years now sooo 😬 I’ll take my chances lol
@Sir-Prizse 11 ай бұрын
You sound like the male counterpart to the female narrator in Baldur's Gate 3.
@Rebelsin 9 күн бұрын
With a dab of Jack Sparrow.
@92kosta Жыл бұрын
Once I screwed in an NVMe SSD without the supporting screw hole under the SSD and it bent so much that I thought I snapped it. Nope, it still works to this day.
@tankerock Жыл бұрын
pcbs can bend quite a bit before snapping
@Fogolol Жыл бұрын
bro i'm a straight ass man but your voice nearly had me second guessing myself, that shit is deeper than the marianna's trench!
@saveEarth69 18 сағат бұрын
I'm blown away how there's almost no videos on YT that dicuss single sided vs double sided NVMe drives, or the standoffs. Or the little rubber pad risers that come with Asus motherboards. My manual doesn't even mention any of this. What the heck
@absentism 4 ай бұрын
Very informative video! You've helped me ensure my new Crucial P3 NVMe was running optimally. Keep up the good work, Prawn!
@TheProvokedPrawn 4 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@sincerelyyours7538 7 ай бұрын
Thanks. Should com in handy as I am now building a new PC to replace the one I built 15 years ago. Data storage technology has changed a lot since then. Never heard of NVMe or M.2 until I began researching parts for the new system.
@IsyMaxine Жыл бұрын
I'm a noob and this was super helpful lol. I was sweating buckets while adding the ssd to my pc lol. I felt like I was performing brain surgery😂😂 Thanks for great instructions! :)
@rmorenberg Жыл бұрын
some new info for me thank you. I didn't know how much more armory could do
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
No problem!
@simptrix007 18 күн бұрын
Great tips I am running Optane 1600X for system and cheap 2TB M2 NVME for data.
@claudiabailey5302 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video I felt like I was listening to a radio DJ very clear and nice voice
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Face for radio, voice for KZfaq. :)
@bajannovazone Жыл бұрын
i love nvme info videos, great video
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@jamesaustin5258 Ай бұрын
Always check the manual for the motherboard because some M.2 slots are shared with PCIe slots or SATA ports.
@Darkstar301 Жыл бұрын
Mm i just noticed that your cpu or gpu is not centered correctly or is it just the camera angle but it looks crooked
@photonboy999 Жыл бұрын
STEP 1 - do research about speeds etc STEP 2 - buy your hardware STEP 3 - turn the screw to mount the M.2 SSD and have the standoff come out of the motherboard
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Most people won't do step one.
@n0spam911 9 ай бұрын
FYI always read the M/B guidance some M/B will reduce the speed on the GPU lane, and some will say slot 1 and slot 2 cannot be populated simultaneously
@ATomCzech Жыл бұрын
For example Z790 Aurorus Master and also some motherboard from ASUS share top m.2 slot with GPU PCIe slot, so it is not always a good idea to install disk to the top one.
@vincewilson1 Жыл бұрын
I have the Z390 Ultra Aurorus from Gigabyte.
@PeedPeeBody 10 ай бұрын
@vincewilson1 same here.. I am beginning to believe the bottom slot is best. My graphics card is installed into the top PCIEX16 slot. Also the bottom heat sink will be perfect for my new 990pro ssd 🤔
@McStubby74 2 ай бұрын
Great tips, I just subscribed, it's interesting to know about the possible GPU impact on installing more NVME's I'll just stick to having 2 and external ssd for storing my non essentials on.
@TheProvokedPrawn 2 ай бұрын
Here's a follow up that might be useful kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebplaNmYytvMgKM.html
@suvetar Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! You explained clearly and deffo saved me from a lot of pain, installing my new 990 2Tb. Love your style so: liked, Subbed, shared and commented! May I ask, nay beg, that you make a vid explaining the subtleties of provisioning, over or under!? I truly love the way you explain things and I'm sure that with your guidance, the penny will finally drop! Thank you once again, you are a legend, Sir!
@coina-dig-tion6322 9 ай бұрын
thanks. will be sure to check that speed. About to add a 2tb ssd and will check the speed for sure now.
@strangerfrijoles7668 9 ай бұрын
thanx for the help i added an extra drive and was wonder what the heck went wrong but with your video i was able to easily figure out the system forgot to name the drive easily fixed it
@TheProvokedPrawn 8 ай бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@tomhorsley6566 Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem is one you can have with hard disks as well: If you install more than one identical drive, nothing in the software gives you enough information to distinguish between them :-).
@nightmarerex2035 Жыл бұрын
expcialy stupid windows 10 and 11 that purposly screw up your duel boot even if you get the duel boot working properly at first windows say-ten or EL says no!
@bradhaines3142 Жыл бұрын
@@nightmarerex2035 dual* boot. they're not fighting each other
@Photoshopuzr 10 ай бұрын
Hey man, this helped me get full 4.0 speeds from my mobo, it was m.2 2_2 had to swap them around just got a new gen 4, thanks.
@TheProvokedPrawn 10 ай бұрын
Glad I could help
@numbr17 Ай бұрын
Quite helpful! Thank you for going through all of this.
@Matlockization Жыл бұрын
You woke me up to some of the limitations.
@utilityaccount8514 Жыл бұрын
m.2 4x4 cards are going to thermal throttle without oversize heatsinks so if you want RAID 0 you're going to probably want a riser cable somewhere
@TheHumbleRoots Жыл бұрын
You mentioned using NVME in all slots reducing GPU PCIE to 8x. As I understand it, there is no current GPU that takes advantage of using 16X. For reference I am using Asrock Taichi z790 and Asus Tuf Oc 4070n ti. I plan on using the top slot and at least 2 others for NVME installation. Thanks. Great video
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
I've seen no negative impact from it
@Rancid_Ninja Жыл бұрын
My board states only the first slot uses the CPU lanes the rest use chipset lanes so they do not affect gpu
@TimberWulfIsHere Жыл бұрын
Not true at all. Put that 4070 in a pci 3.0 slot and see what happens to the memory bandwidth on the card.
@TheHumbleRoots Жыл бұрын
@@TimberWulfIsHere ummm nobody uses 3.0 lol
@TimberWulfIsHere Жыл бұрын
@@TheHumbleRoots you must be pretty fkin delusional to think that 100% of people are using minimum b550 mobos then.
@CrimsonArcturus Жыл бұрын
How come some of the M.2 slots have heat pads and other slots don't on the same motherboard? Does this impact performance?
@larryrodriguez1977 Жыл бұрын
for the most part it doesn't make a difference. And if you look all the m.2 slots have cooling. for this board.
@FreshtexBlackman Жыл бұрын
Most board manufacturers put cooling plates like (MSI M.2 Shield Frozr) on the higher speed interfaces (PCIe 4.0) cause they run faster than PCIe 3 which means more heat generated, more expensive boards have cooling solutions on all or most NVMe slots cause you're paying more.
@phenos Жыл бұрын
An high speed nvme SSD can throttle down in speed when a certain temperature target is reached, usually with long sustained data transfers. A thermal pad especially on the controller chip helps to dump the heat to a heatsink allowing it to maintain higher/full speed.
@easyrider3112 Жыл бұрын
You're missing a related option. If you are going after maximum nvme m.2 storage for minimum cash, you can use an interface converting device. Use 4 pcie x4 gen 2 drives over 1 pcie x4 gen 4 interface. This works by converting the slower older hen pcie protocol to the faster new gen protocol. Gen 4 throughput is double gen 3, which is double gen 2. At the end you are moving the same Gb/s through half or a quarter the same lanes because of the converter. You pick up a very small amount of latency but multiply the pcie lanes on desktop level systems reducing total cost.
@Mangomaniac Жыл бұрын
do you know if a ryzen 5800x3d pairs well with the msi x570s edge max wifi & a 250gb samsung 970 evolution plus with a 2tb 970 evo plus?
@MrBfg586 Жыл бұрын
In my bios it's has the PCI set to auto. If I know it's 4th Gen ssd should I change it in the dropdown or should I leave it at auto?
@juBeatz75 Жыл бұрын
thank you man!
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
You're welcome Julian!
@richardpollock9027 Жыл бұрын
Good to know. Thanks a ton. The next gen AMDs are starting with 88 PCIe lanes.
@SomeRenoGuy Жыл бұрын
I only install the m.2 drive on top if I'm side mounting video cards. Too much heat coming up from the video card to cook the m.2 drive regardless if the m.2 has a heatsink or not.
@Grievous- Жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping me with my very first NVME selection and installation.
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@julienkrause4149 Жыл бұрын
Big support for the channel and keep on making awesome content and guides and giveaways in the future as well. Worked for me
@VikasKumar-yg4ez Жыл бұрын
I recently added a 2nd nvme drive to my system but now it takes 1-2 minutes to boot, before it hardly took 7-8 seconds, I've tried everything in bios but unable to figure out the problem. X570 board, I'm using a Samsung 980 gen 3, wd sn770 gen 4 drive and a 2tb hard drive. Thankyou for the help
@GirlOnAQuest Жыл бұрын
Your mistake was using that included heatsink ruining the beautiful white one it had to cover it LOL. Nice Video!
@MADHIKER777 Жыл бұрын
Incredibly useful video, as are all your videos!
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Very kind
@SgtMajor82 Жыл бұрын
ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING worst motherboard for installing this. Would literally block my GPU fans. Excellent design to install another Asus product onto! Could I use the Xiwai Low Profile PCI-E 3.0 x1 Lane to M.2 adaptor to increase my NVME drives please?
@bjmarchives Жыл бұрын
Right, on my MSI motherboard (and many others) my secondary pcie x16 only supports up to 3.0.
@BigNacho90 Жыл бұрын
i have the new amd AM5 board asus rog strix x670e - e and i can only use one nvme, any more than 1 will cut my gpu pcie to 8x instead of 16.. im disappointed, unless im doing something wrong. i just revert to 2.5 ssd at the moment until i get this figured out. i could use help tho.
@selocan469 Жыл бұрын
Most informative and well prepared video about the subject yet, thank you very much
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@simon215a Жыл бұрын
Nice voice bro. So comforting.
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Thanks Anton. Sub to hear more of it 👍🦐
@simon215a Жыл бұрын
@@TheProvokedPrawn Thanks. Already did it. 😀👍
@layes9046 Жыл бұрын
THIS DUDE BURPING NOT TALKING 👍👍
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
You are weird.
@moisesmillan2726 11 ай бұрын
Hey! Thanks for your video. I am building a PC and I bought two same exact M2 SSD. When installing windows, how do I make sure I select the fastest one? Not sure what to do. If I install one first it will be a pain in the butt to remove the GPU to install the second one
@JayPFresh227 Жыл бұрын
Very Informative Video i also have the Z690 Formula and regularly use armoury crate, i can now check my WD Black SN850 drives are performing as they should be. Thank You!
@billx4266 Жыл бұрын
Top slot is not a good idea on my board, if i do this, the graphics card slot will not be x16 but x8 instead....
@belgregor Жыл бұрын
Because top slot is using processor lanes. Bottom slot is using chipset lanes.
@lolzorsPwnage 10 ай бұрын
Wouldn't putting thermal pads under the m.2 drive increase the temperature transfer to the area under the m.2? Just a little confused for my build
@murderbot4313 Жыл бұрын
This was highly informative - thank you so much.
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@brandoncostlow8474 Жыл бұрын
Can I just utilize the expansion drive for M.2 drives? Or should I install my drives directly on motherboard? First PC build and haven’t loaded windows yet. Just looking for a little guidance ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero 2 - M.2 980 Pro 2280 2TB. RTX 4090
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Usually faster directly on the motherboard
@LittleFellaDynamics Жыл бұрын
Excellent information >> perfect for what I needed to know thank you 👌💯👀🎥😎🌟
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@mckrackin5324 Жыл бұрын
Very useful. Thanks. I was curious what speed my SSDs were since I have a 5700g CPU. Evidently, doesn't matter. I found my Gen 3 SSD at Gen 3 speed and my Gen 4 SSD at Gen 4. I have a 4TB Gen 4 coming tomorrow to replace my Gen 3 drive and I'm happy to see I didn't waste $50. lol... No need to replace the 5700g just yet.
@Carlos5_1_2 Жыл бұрын
I have an SSD for my PS5 and wondering if I take it out of my PS5 and install it into a PC will it have any effect or no effect at all
@prayfawindful Жыл бұрын
My cpu fan and rtx gpu is covering up my first nvme , so if I install an nvme I will not be able to use a heatsink can I use the bottom slot and still get the same speed? I will only be installing 1 nvme drive
@r1pbuck Жыл бұрын
I'm setting up a new gaming rig with 3 1Tb KC3000 drives on a Z790 Tomahawk MB...this is all very helpful. Any comments on the Kingston SSD Manager software in comparison to the Samsung Magic software?
@uncouthliyouth4486 Жыл бұрын
If you have bought a drive with a heatsink is it still necessary to lay it upon extra thermal padding? Installing into my new Aurora R15(2 TB 980 pro w/heatsink) and PS5(1 TB pro w/ heatsink) each. Basically is it not necessary to have thermal padding if you bought an ssd with a heatsink?
@lennardlepo 3 ай бұрын
God, I thought it might be broken because it didn't show on screen. Thank you so much
@TheProvokedPrawn 3 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@rcald-gz5jd 9 ай бұрын
"Have a great life". What a nice thing for you to say.
@TheProvokedPrawn 9 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@bobbobby5141 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for guidance i gotta pay my respect when it is due 😭😭❤
@TheProvokedPrawn 4 ай бұрын
Hope it helped
@BeefIntoCake Жыл бұрын
This video is really good. Well done mate !
@PinkasBrown44 Жыл бұрын
Curiously, the 1st M.2 slot you recommend people to install their drive to (the one closest to the CPU) is the slot one SHOULD NOT use on the ASUS STRIX z790-E board in particular, since this will limit the GPU to run at x8. I wonder if I will ever use that slot at all. Oddly, it´s the only PCI E 5.0 M.2 slot. Equipped with a beefy thermal shield. Since I haven´t built a PC over a decade, I´m intrigued by this, wondering if I am missing something important here. Any thoughts on that?
@josephaltman460 Жыл бұрын
I hated putting it into the second slot, since the first has the heat pipe!
@PinkasBrown44 Жыл бұрын
@@josephaltman460 I hate to be the one telling you, but I THINK both the 1st AND the 2nd M.2 slots share the same CPU lanes with your GPU. If I am not mistaken, you have to install in the 3 M.2 the furthest away, Corretct me, if I am wrong, but you might be running your GPU at x8 right now. Please send us feedback.
@drunkhusband6257 Жыл бұрын
z790 has more pci e lanes, it doesn't matter
@daviddavid9459 11 ай бұрын
Excellent 👌
@Filmmaker809 10 ай бұрын
Very useful @The Provoked Prawn. My drives are x2 Samsung 990's and x 3 Crucial Gen 4 drives all running at Gen 2x1. I have an Asus Z790 Hero Motherboard, how do I get them running at the Full speed please?
@moneyylaundryy5360 Жыл бұрын
What should I do before putting the M.2 to my laptop
@marksadventures3889 Жыл бұрын
My main worry now is finding tower with less lights than Blackpool, what is it, don't they let needs in clubs or something? If I am building and want to use all 3 nvme m.2 drives does this mean a ball ache of adding one by one? I also want yo add 4 x 32 gb DDR4 ram. Any advice please. Great video - very clear and easy to follow.
@luizmeier 13 күн бұрын
I don't usually get scared easily, but the appearance of a shrimp at the end was scary.
@TheProvokedPrawn 13 күн бұрын
Rude. I'm not that ugly
@RMG50cal Жыл бұрын
If my drive already has a heatsink, should I leave on the bottom thermal pad or take it off completely?
@dhonbanaga5637 Жыл бұрын
Is it okay to use nvme as secondary storage?
@slawaschwed 8 ай бұрын
I love "avoid mistakes" videos, thank you! I got married before the WWW 🤣
@plump688 6 ай бұрын
It's funny how hard it is for manufacturers to give the correct info in the manuals. My Asus ROG z790 extreme tells me that if I use the M2_1 slot, it shares bandwidth with the 2nd GPU slot and disables it, yet it still sets the GPU 1 to 8x. And if you install 2 m2s on the DIMM, they also share the bandwidth of the DIMM. They do not tell you that. Very frustrating when everything is installed
@Omega_Mark Жыл бұрын
Same goes if you use certain SATA connections, your lower NVME slots will run at lower speed. Also, cheaper boards may just have one PCIX 4.0 NVME slots (such as B650 for AMD) and the rest PCIX 3.0. New X670 "Extreme" boards vary from model to model, so you have to carefully check for the specs you want before purchase (even if they are $500).
@arx117 Жыл бұрын
I'm using asus B650 board, it have 1x 5.0 and 2x 4.0. I would said ASRock only have 1x4.0 and 2x 3.0
@josephmother6822 Жыл бұрын
Your advice is a little outdated, my Aorus b650 elite ax AM5 (definitely a lower end AM5 board) has 3 nvme slots, 2 of which are 4.0 and one which is 5.0.
@drunkhusband6257 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter you won't notice the difference in speed its so nominal
@Mustis91 10 ай бұрын
i have a msi b650 carbon wifi and a pcie 4.0 wd black sn770 ssd. Do you know if it would slow my gpu down if i get another m.2? doesnt need to be 4.0 i just want a second ssd for mass storage. sorry i'm not sure about the lanes on the mobo cause i dont know a lot about this stuff :D
@Omega_Mark 10 ай бұрын
@@Mustis91 If you install a second NVME in second or third slot, your card will run at PCIX 8x. If your video card is not very powerful, you are fine installing in the slot 2 and 3. Your fourth NVME slot and SATA are run by the chipset. If you want to keep your PCIX 16x intact and you don't need fastest speeds for your NVME storage, install it in the FOURTH NVME slot. Here are the specs of your mobo: 4x M.2 M.2_1 Source (From CPU) supports up to PCIe 5.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices M.2_2 Source (From CPU) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices M.2_3 Source (From CPU) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices M.2_4 Source (From Chipset) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 22110/2280/2260 devices 6x SATA 6G * PCI_E1, M2_2 & M2_3 share the bandwidth. PCI_E1 will run at x8 speed when installing devices in M2_2 or M2_3 slots. You are fine installing a second 4.0 NVME. I would recommend getting something like Samsung 2TB NVME and installing it in Slot 1 for best performance. Your current WD NVME could then go in Slot 4 (bit slower) for your storage. I don't see a point of getting another 1TB drive at this point. If you don't need more than 2TB of storage, then you just simply use 2TB in slot 1 :). You can add the WD at a later date when needed. Wait for Black Friday for some nice sales.
@Hoacakes 2 ай бұрын
Nearly 1 million views!
@marcusjames1221 Жыл бұрын
Great video thoroughly enjoyed it very well detailed and understood everything you said thank you
@TheProvokedPrawn Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Hope you enjoyed enough to subscribe 🦐
@johnsim77 Жыл бұрын
I have and old mobo (socket 1366) and i am trying to install windows 10 in expansion card with NVME M2 2TB. I received message that : "Windows cannot be installed to this disk. This computers hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure That the disk controller is enabled in the computers BIOS menu." Can i bypass this using WinNTsetup 5.2 or clover ?
@muckymucks Жыл бұрын
I have a question about putting an NVMe on the top M.2 slot. My motherboard’s top slot is for gen5; I don’t have gen5 but I also keep hearing about the slot sharing lanes with the GPU causing the GPU to use half the lanes, so I put my boot drive in the bottom M.2 slot that’s for gen4 NVMe. I also have an old gen3 NVMe that I put in for the hell of it in the gen3 M.2 slot. My motherboard is ASUS ROG Strix Z690-E and it has M.2 slots for gen5, gen4, and gen3. It’s all wonderfully confusing but I can’t get any straight answers about the gen5 M.2 splitting lanes with the GPU.
@Dankapotamus918 Жыл бұрын
Same issue. I have the z790 E and the top drive is gen 5. I just put my m.2 in the next available slot.
@tankerock Жыл бұрын
You have all three M.2 slots populated? Are you using the ROG Hyper card by any chance? Bench your GPU, is it within range of what everyone else is at?
@muckymucks Жыл бұрын
@@tankerock I’m using two M.2 slots, the gen4 and gen3 ones. My boot drive is the gen4 one. I’m curious what’s the point of the gen5 slot if it divides lanes, or if nobody really knows what what’re talking about.
@tankerock Жыл бұрын
@@muckymucks Yes, we are talking about PCIe bifurcation. Using M.2 slot #2 & #3 (the bottom two M.2 slots on the ASUS ROG Strix Z690-E) will only be affected if you have SSD sata drives also installed. You may have to use different sata ports if performance is an issue. Your GPU's performance will not be affected even if you populate slot #1 as well. Reason because PCIe gen 5 doubles the bandwidth of gen 4 which even a RTX 4090 cannot saturate.
@noomnoom8469 Жыл бұрын
@@tankerock bifurcation is a nippy topic but it does make sense in terms of assigned lanes per manufactures decision. For the users it means a plain and simple RTFM to setup combinations.
@JakeBlack999 5 ай бұрын
another great video prawn! well done, thanks
@TheProvokedPrawn 5 ай бұрын
Thanks again!
@dallaspersonalshopping2299 Жыл бұрын
Both my Samsung 970Plus and Hynex gold p31 reduced speed, samsung write 2100mbs, Hynex 3000mbs. Ive tried everything, reinstall Controller, add sam 3.3 update, clear junk files, reinstall ssd. asus tuf 560 gaming plus. installed in black pcie3 drive. temps 42c. Write cache on. AchI mode on in bios.
@Mikej1592 Жыл бұрын
one thing, i bought a ROG, it has that card, in the manual there are some gen4 and some gen3 ports, also depending on which ports you use that will determine the speeds of other ports or something. I forget but that card I believe is limited to gen 3, at least in my board. I have I think only 2 of 3 on board ports that support gen4 one port that claims to support optaine but when I turn that on the PC randomly bluescreens and crashes, I also cant turn on the full ram speed as turning on XMP also causes system instability. I used all name brand products from long run companies like Corsair and such no off brand knockoffs so I assumed everything would work. Spend like 2 grand on this system and I cant use it at full power, however, it is still leaps and bounds better than my old rig and still does what I need so I am at least satisfied but one day I hope to be able to figure out why I cant turn on all the features I paid for. forget optaine as even Intel has turned it's back on it, but I would like to get the 6k out of my ram instead of 2k speeds. even if I could one day get them to run at 4k that would be alright.
@Addeatt Жыл бұрын
Reply with a list of your parts you put together and I can try to work out the kinks on your Ram issue.
@Mikej1592 Жыл бұрын
@@Addeatt If you are serious here is my parts list: WD_BLACK 1TB SN850 NVMe Internal Gaming SSD - Gen4 M.2, be quiet! Dark Power Pro 12, 1200W, BN646, 80+ Titanium, PSupply, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Gaming OC 12G, ASUS ROG Strix Z690-E Gaming WiFi 6E LGA 1700 MB, Intel i9-12900K Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.20 GHz) FC-LGA16A G.Skill Trident Z5 Series (Intel XMP) 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin SDRAM DDR5 6000 CL36-36-36-76 1.20V Dual Channel Desktop Memory F5-6000U3636E16GA2-TZ5S, The PC is working, just not at full capacity as I said. ram running at base ram speed no where near the 6k that I paid for. currently XMP turned off as it's the only way I can run without random blue screens. I also have removed all other drives so only the one M.2 drive running windows 10. Runs games great like phasmophobia and several others, but I would really like to get more performance. Especially since I paid for faster ram I would like to run at like 2/3rds or 3/4ths the 6k I paid for
@Addeatt Жыл бұрын
@@Mikej1592 Have you tried getting 4800mhz to run? The memory controller on i9-12900k is rated to run at 4800mhz for ddr5 and anything above that is considered an overclock which means you might have to mess with timings and voltage (You might be able to get 5200mhz without touching anything though. I'd start there 4800mhz, and if that works fine try 5200mhz. Lmk
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