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When thrash was dying off in the 90s, death metal became the huge deal. Cannibal Corpse, Death, Decide, Obituary, Morbid Angel, Carcass.

Too bad you didn’t like Megadeth… I think Rust in Peace is one of the best thrash albums of all time, a total masterpiece.

Power Trip would've surely taken the extreme metal throne within the next ten years, still devastated that Riley is gone...

Megadeth was IT for me. I genuinely like Mustane's lyrics. And something about the whole underdog thing w/ Metallica turned me twords them .They also seemed less polished which appealed to me as well. Of course I was in my teens then and moved on since that time but Megadeth always holds a special place for me ....had ALL there "tapes" 🤣

"punk, hardcore and metal co-exist very peacefully", I really really like that quote. Thank you finn.

"The Big Four are still doing great things and good music" Nay. RIP Slayer.

The reasons why Metallica got so big without promotion; 1. They did lots of live shows even before their debut came up 2. James Hetfield's vocals were completely a new thing (especially from ride to lightning and on) and were not corny at all. 3. The guys were the first ones to do thrash. 4. They wrote songs that can become rock essentials such as Fade to Black, Welcome to Home and One and put one of each in their early albums.

Sad to see Overkill was not given a mention, truly underrated. Forced Entry is amazing! Happy to see them get a name drop

Dave Mustane's autobiography was a fantastic read. Showed a lot of the behind the scenes in thrash back in the day.

Metallica got so big without any promotion because their riffs are just that good.

I would say the love that early/mid 2000's metalcore and NWOAHM bands were giving their thrash metal heroes really went a long way to reviving its popularity. I was into metal already and a big metallica fan when I was about 15/16 but the thrash influences evident in new bands like Trivium, BFMV, Chimaira and Sylosis as well as Machine Head having their resurgance about that time sent me down the route of discovering Testament, Exodus, Megadeth, Sepultura and mamy others.

I think a great thing about more modern thrash is having genre off-shoots like blackened thrash. Power Trip is also one of my favorite metal bands. Rest in Peace Riley.

According to me, As much as it hurts to say this, The band that made thrash metal most popular was the reason for its death - Metallica. In order to make Metal mainstream, Thrash metal had to be the sacrificial lamb and pave way. They had become millionaires after the Justice tour. The album had peaked on #6 despite being progressive and angriest. Without any support from MTV or any music video way back in 1988 (Damn) . The hype was real for their next album and they only reinforced their popularity by making the songs more straight forward. I believe had they made a thrash album it would have been popular and reached #1 but won't have 1/10th the impact the Black album has. The success they got was MJ/Maddona level and that's what it is.

I think it's the first time I hear Finn giving credits to something from Europe. We made it boys.

Municipal Waste, despite being a recent band (by thrash standards), are God Tier. I think the leaning hard into the yelled/screamed vocals more than the 80s bands did really helps them too, because it's how I imagine thrash really should sound.

Hi Finn. This thrash episode is my first time experiencing your channel. Had to watch because I was a part of the scene. I began playing guitar in 1982, so I witnessed the birth of thrash. I would play to Slayer, Metallica, Anthrax, S.O.D. albums front to back. 1986, my graduation year, I and my brother in metal started the band MANIACAL GENOCIDE. We released 3 demos from 1988 to 1990, got endorsed by VANS shoes and B. C. RICH guitars. Sadly, we never got the opportunity to sign with a label and we disbanded in 1992. For me, thrash never died. I love that it has seen a resurgence. I agree with you on Municipal Waste. Gama Bomb is also a great thrash band. I still play guitar and drums, still in touch with the guys from the band. I am also now, a subscriber of your channel. My name is Scott Jenkins, I live in Central Point, Oregon and I am 53 years old. Metallica made 4 fantastic albums, that's it. I am sure they are now, sucking dick and getting ass-raped by the satanic elites that oversee all industries. You do not get to their status, without paying a price. You do not become supremely wealthy, without paying a price. From Hollywood to sports to modeling to music. You want fame and fortune, you must take part in the rituals. No exceptions. I am glad, the opportunity I sought, never arrived. Later.

Seasons in the Abyss is indeed a total masterpiece.

I'm old enough to remember when thrash started. My first thrash concert was Megadeth Peace Sells Tour. Heard Metallica in 1984 and the journey began. I remember listening to the Big Four, Testament, Exodus, Death Angel, Dark Angel, Metal Church, Forbidden, Laaz Rocket, Overkill, Sepultura, Suicidal Tendencies, Coroner, Destruction, Kreator, Vio-Lence, Voi Vod...many more that I forgot.

I still remember buying my first Metallica album at Music Plus, Master of Puppets. On cassette in the summer of 1986, after I saved up my allowance and recycling aluminum cans for a couple weeks.

Here are some old albums that are a must in my opinion: Annihilator - Alice In Hell 1989 Artillery - By Inheritance 1989 Cyclone Temple - I Hate Therefore I Am 1991 Dark Angel - Time Does Not Heal 1991 Death Angel - The Ultra-Violence 1987 Defiance - Beyond Recognition 1992 Forbidden - Twisted Into Form 1990 Heathen - Victims of Deception 1991 Morbid Saint - Spectrum of Death 1990 Toxik - Think This 1989 Xetrix - For Whose Advantage 1990

I loved thrash as a teenager. To this day I have cringe memories of writing the names of my classes (matematyka, historia etc.) using the fonts similar to those of the thrash bands. I even got my totally not-metal friend into Slayer and persuaded my mom when she was baking bread into allowing me to write 'Slayer' in order to make a Slayer bread. Good times.

Arise is awesome. Opens with one of the hardest trifectas with Arise, Dead Embryonic Cells, and Desperate Cry. So good.

I’m 25 and I love thrash. Wish I lived in the popular thrash metal era.

I think the fact that nobody ever mentions overkill is a tragedy. One of the best thrash bands ever.

Metal just got heavier and more technical and has continued to. We saw a lot of Metallica inspired bands like BFMV in the early 2000s, and you're right that The Black Album continues to top iTunes charts, despite the album itself being more commercial (but a phenomenal record).

DRI will always be a fave for me. I got to fill in on drums for them for a few songs in seattle several years ago. Life changing moment for me when spike said he was relieved that I could play the songs, and he didn't have to give me cues and he could just get into it and not worry(opener's drummer tried to fill in and knew none of the songs and was not good). One of the best days of my life, they even signed my shirt after the show. I played acid rain and beneath the wheel with them. Still got my copy of acid rain on cassette.

Hey just wanted to stop and say I love your content. As an old rocker from my middle school days, who has listened to many many bands over the years, I love learning about anything and everything rock and metal. Been watching/listening to your vids while I work and enjoy your take on things, sir!

I love all the band suggestions I pick up in your videos like this about a genre that I love. Keep up the awesome work!

Arise and chaos AD from Sepultura are absolute classics!🤘 also I call it the big 5 adding testament

So basically, the scene got oversaturated with tons of new Thrash bands, Vulgar Display was the reality check, then new genres started popping up (Alternative Metal, Death Metal) and Grunge put the tombstone to it. Cool! Great video man!

Finn, I wanna thank you for all this great content. It's not only great but you're opening my eyes to more music than just what I'm familiar with. Thank you so much.

I still can’t get over Riley’s death. I was at the last Power Trip show in LA just before the lock down. It was my first PT show, I remember leaving and thinking “I can’t WAIT to see them again! That was incredible!” Few months later, I heard the news of his death…

“On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.” - Unnamed Narrator

Sepultura is my favorite when it comes to groove and thrash. Hell, even Bestial Devastation almost sounds like some proto black metal album. Beneath The Remains and Arise are my favorite thrash albums.

One of my favorite videos by you, really well done! I'd add that the old bands were responsible for revival also. Kreator, Slayer and Testament among many others returned to their thrash roots in the 21st century.

This video is amazing. Incredibly informative and insightful especially since I’m relatively new to the genre.

Genres like Punk, Thrash, Nu, etc. will never die as long as electric guitar and distortions are made

It was Nightmare Logic that convinced me I was wrong about the new wave of Thrash that it wasn’t just an ironic hipster joke at the genre’s expense and I had a lot of catching up to do. Rest In Peace Riley. 🤘🏻 Wonderful video Finn.

Very cool to hear you reference Forced Entry. I thought I was the only person who rembered them and still listened occasionally.

I love your What killed series. What is refreshing is that you actually try to steelman genres that don't appeal to you but with that give give criticism of said genre or style that is more than just "Her her it's fill of shit amirite" but also giving it in a humourous way that isn't portrayed as condescending. Keep up the good work man!

Thrash is still massively important for me as a guy in his mid 30s, even though I grew up with Nu Metal, but over the years it kinda became my favorite Metal genre, or at least pretty equal with Nu Metal. There is simply much more quality in it than in most other Metal genres

I wouldn't exactly call Thrash Metal one of my favorite genres, as I can get burned out on it pretty easily, but I definitely view it as one of the most important if not the most important genre of metal. I feel a lot of the tropes we view as normal today are thanks to Thrash Metal. And along with that, it was able to create a rift in the 80's metal scene that I see as responsible for helping metal to evolve as opposed to sounding like Judas Priest or Quiet Riot all the time.

enjoyed this a lot, and not just because I still love thrash! I think your point about dilution of a genre scene (my phrase for your idea) is a really astute observation, and probably widely applicable to a lot of music scenes, especially "sub-genres." Pop-punk comes to mind - like once we reached the point where there were like 20 entire labels that only put out pop punk.... clearly the ship had sailed on that particular sub-genre. anyway, great video and thanks.

Freeakin Love that you mention the Accused and Excel! two highly underrated bands from that era! Love watching this videos man Keep up the great work.!!!!!!

Sepultura ARISE is my favorite metal album of any genre.

The rise of Death Metal was the downfall of Thrash, especially considering the former is an evolution of the latter. I love Thrash though, it got me into metal and I would love a resurgence of it

My top 3 favorite albums of the genre: Seasons in the Abyss, ...and Justice for All (not the biggest Metallica fan neither, but much respect to this solid album), and Act-III (Death Angel

great video Finn....I'm mostly a death metal and grindcore guy, but thrash was totally my entry point into metal. Your video made me want to go listen to some thrash.

Really, the only thrash band that always stuck with me, is Evile. Especially their album Five Serpent's Teeth. I'm not a thrash fan at all, but that album is a masterpiece. Sad their singer got replaced. His voice was far more melodic than that of most thrash vocalists. Really brought a unique element to their music. Oh yeah and Testament is pretty dope too. Mainly Dark Roots of Earth.

Thrash was my first obsession. My brother's cassettes were never safe. I broke his door lock so i could sneak into his room when he was at work and listen. Still have a couple of them in a box....maybe I should return those....

I really enjoyed this video. I am really into Brazilian metal but had never thought of the German influences on Sepultura before. I am keen to check out those German bands now.

Finn. Thanks for covering this one. I was hoping you would.

Wow, I got into a LOT of these bands when I was in high school (I’m 30). Managed to convince my German teacher to play a live album/DVD from Kreator when they played a show in East Berlin in 1990 for extra credit. Fantastic overview, Finn!

I absolutely LOVE the clip of the girl talking about Metallica's font. Entirely speaking of it from a brand context due to literally not knowing about the band.

BRILLIANT VIDEO! I grew up during the inception and rise of Thrash Metal. I was in High School when Seasons In The Abyss, Extreme Agression, Beneath The Remains, And Justice For All, Rust In Peace....etc.......that time was a phenomenal time for Metal. And......the first era of Death Metal, Swedish Death Metal....etc. Happened right after that crazy Thrash peak!!!!!! Which was equally as awesome!!!!!

DRI was such an important band in my elementary school days. I was introduced to them by my older cousin and and his friends where we would ride bikes. I can still remember the horror on my teacher’s face when on my day to bring music to school I brought Dealing With It to play.

Thrash defined my life in high school in the early 2000’s I loved Dark Angel, Sodom, Exodus. Tbh i think being so into thrash was my reaction to the fact that emo was so big in my era.

If you can get I’ve the vocals, I really feel like Xentrix was the best thrash band and “For Whose Advantage?” was the best thrash album ever. Excellent songwriters, excellent musicians, heavy riffs.

The first albums by Sepultura and Kreator (Morbid Visions, and Endless Pain) sounded more like death / black metal, and later their albums were more thrash it's interesting. Kreator and Sepultura first albums actually influenced death metal a lot, even though the first death metal album, most would say was ''Seven Churches'' by Possessed.

Sick! Thanks for doing this. Now can we get a video on Doom 90s launch through to the 2010s boom

Let's not forget: Tony of Municipal Waste also started the crossover band Iron Reagan.

11:31 surprises me to this day; I always saw metal and punk as complimentary genres. They have a lot of musical overlap which is brilliantly demonstrated by hardcore and crossover bands, they can both make dark, heavy, aggressive music and poppier, more melodic and mass appealing music demonstrated by the likes of pop punk and hair metal. As Finn says, it's obvious now. It just amazes me that there was actually a time when people couldn't see it!

Love all the times you mention forced entry. Most underrated band ever IMO.

Damn- Finn always hits it outta the park. Dark Angel! Yes!!! Can’t believe you mentioned Excel too! Damn been decades since I heard them!

I got into this stuff pretty much the same way as you at about the same time: Suicidal tendencies and Dayglo Abortions (another great cross-over band and Canada's answer to the 2 Live Crew obscenity trial). I have trouble listening to a lot of Suicidal these days but go listen to Dayglo's Here Today album again. 33 years later and still a fun listen.

Thrash is a huge part of the core of metal so it wont ever truly die. Perfect example Alien Weaponry 🤘

Great video man, I think you really did this justice and found a way to share a unique perspective on a subject that has been discussed to death. I think you nailed the legacy of thrash also - it was also my gateway into metal and deepened my appreciation and exploration of punk and hardcore. I'll never forget the first time I heard "Whiplash" by Metallica and freaking out becuase I've never heard anything that blended hardcore punk and metal before. Love your channel - keep up the awesome work!

I about died when you showed Sean Killian from Vio-Lence talking about being a brain surgeon but smoked too much pot. Cannot think of what that video series is right now but I have it on VHS still. Used to go see Vio-Lence in the Bay Area back in the day at the Omni or The Stone.

Looking forward to watching this. Nevermind and the Black Album were both release in 1991. Yet, radio stations quickly changed to the grunge alternative format because of the popularity of Nirvanna. However, Metallica outsold them almost 2 to 1, so what gives? Shouldn't the Black Album have lead to a metal peak in the 90s, where instead it went underground.

Seasons in the Abyss is a good choice from the Big 4. Honestly, it is hard to pick between Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, Reign in Blood, Seasons in the Abyss, Rust in Peace, or Among the Living.

Wow, great an informative video. I can't believe that I have just came across you channel which has nothing but great in-depth information in the world of rock music. I am not going to be that guy who plugs a band name to get followers, but I would like to know your thoughts on the possibly of there being a space for a new upcoming young thrash band. My brother is the drummer in an up-and-coming band here in Orlando. They have had two separate videos viewed by both Glenn Fricker and the guys from the Space Zebra Show on Twitch and both had nothing but positive things to say about their music and their style being thrash metal. Is this a genre you think a new upcoming band can have success in at this current time?

I was very happy and surprised to hear you mention EXCEL, and the ST record Controlled By Hatred. 🤘💯

Ron Jarzombeck is my favorite musician. So glad to hear you share the appreciation for him!

yooo finn. I wished you would do spotify playlist about these bands

ST was the biggest for me. They kept me alive (for real) during the late 80’s. Mike is a very special writer and person.

Looking back, the thrash revival is sorta the heavy counterpart to the strokes/white stripes wave, where rock started running out of creative juice and bands started more explicitly dealing in familiarity rather than novelty

Finn, thanks for doing this one! Thrash was my favorite genre growing up. I grew up loving Maiden and Priest. An older neighbor of mine when I was in fifth or sixth grade, took me into his room to show me his guitar setup. He had the "Aces High" poster, and I mentioned liking Maiden. He then played Master of Puppets for me....holy shit! I, too, really liked the crossover bands, like ST, and DRI...don't know where Gang Green went wrong...lol. Anyways, I always dig your perspective, and this is the keystone era, for me, as far as heavy music goes. Can't thank you enough!

Its so hard to put Primus in anywhere. They're at the tri-point of funk metal, alt metal and carnival music.

Great video. At some point, it would cool to do a deep dive into all the punk and metal cross-pollinations in the early '80s. I remember "thrash" being used the same as "hardcore" in the '80s, *maybe* with a connotation of faster hardcore bands, which is where the term "thrash metal" came from. I think death metal in the US fizzled out around the same time that thrash metal did, because of a billion clone bands, heavy music going elsewhere in the mainstream, etc. We already had a lot of newer thrash metal bands in the late '90s in Europe...including American ones that few people in the US cared about at the time.

I’m 40 years old now and I guess one reason why I never thought about thrash metal dying was because really back in the early and mid-90s we didn’t try to put so many different sub genres into Metal. For example when Pantera came out myself and no other metal fans that I knew went out of our way to call Pantera groove metal. To us Pantera was just a newer form of thrash metal that was more street influenced in a little more hard-core. I mean back then The only real sub genres of metal were like the classic metal bands like Black Sabbath, Motörhead, AC/DC, Judas Priest, and Iron maiden. Then you had death metal which was your cannibal corpse, Morbid Angel, obituary, etc. and then I guess Goth metal was just kind of peeking its head with Type O Negative, of course there was the glam/hair metal, And everything else like Pantera, slayer Metallica, Megadeth, Sepultura , overkill etc. I guess would be the bands we considered thrash. Hell it wasn’t until sometime in the 2000s that I heard somebody call Pantera groove metal. And in the south where I spent most of my life where I was raised Marilyn Manson really wasn’t that popular with southern metalheads. The only ones that really listen to him in the metal crowd were girls and even if guys did they were too scared to really admit to anyone that they were a fan of the guy that got up on stage in women’s underwear. And I’m not saying that’s right or wrong I’m just saying that’s how it was back in the 90s. But honestly most people back then before the days of Nu Metal just called metal “metal” . We really weren’t going to divide ourselves up into little groups on who like death metal and who like thrash metal because as long as it was metal we all pretty much loved it. As far as trash dying in 1992 I would probably have to disagree. Now were there new thrash bands coming out after 1992? No not really but I think a shit load of people got into thrash around that time. I’m not saying Metallica’s black album is the best thrash album ever, I mean I like it but it didn’t sound as 80s like other thrash metal bands were doing. And the more important thing that Metallica black album did in the early 90s was it got a shit load of people to get into thrash metal. Metallica’s black album got so many people into older Metallica and then they started picking up other albums by other thrash bands. I mean around 1992 is about the time Megadeth had their best selling album of all times. Countdown to extinction went double platinum around that time. So it’s not like metal fans were throwing away their CDs and saying that it’s over and we’re just going to listen to death metal and Pantera and rage against the machine from here on out. No we kept listening and loving to thrash like we still do today but you embrace the new genres of metal as they come out as well. In the end I don’t think it matters what anyone’s opinion of thrash is but I think we can all agree that besides classic metal, the bands that started it all, thrash is without a doubt the most influential genre of metal. Death, Nu, Groove and alternative metal old were heavily influenced more by thrash than any other type of music.

The only time I ever had to walk away from a show for being too crazy was Municipal Waste back in 2013. They played a small stage venue with a little balcony about 15 feet up. People were jumping off the balcony into the pit and climbing the rafters. What a first time to see them live

one of my favorite videos of yours so far!! absolutely 100000% agree with your opinions on the German/ Brazilian (Sepultura) thrash bands being the top dogs of Trash compared to most of the US bands (which I still love ofc). most of the bands you mentioned are just as heavy in my rotation nowadays as they were when I found them in middle/ high school 15-20 years ago. Great take Finn, thanks for doing something different from the mainstream story. Appreciate your hard work!

As for the resurgence of heavy metal, you might remember Deceased and their 1997 album Fearless Undead Machines. I remember when it came out it was the first new thrash I'd heard in years. They called themselves death metal, perhaps only because they were lyrically about death, but everyone knew it was thrash. It's a concept album based on the Living Dead movies. Check out Graphic Repulsion and also the title track.

I first encountered Municipal Waste supporting The Haunted in London... Amazing live band, all the costumes, inflatable beach toy things flying about the place... it was an absolute riot! I'm no thrash fan, but I started going to their gigs after that, and found some great bands through them... Gamma Bomb, SSS, Evile, Mutant.. Good times. Good times

I remember back in the late 80's it was considered "selling out" to produce a thrash metal video. Metallica claimed then they would never sell out make a video, till One was made. It was controversy at the time.

It’s fairly popular where I live, may go see a local show next month, a couple guys that live here are in Nuclear Assault, so they are playing a small club.

Great video and mentions.Watchtower, Dark Angel, lazy Rockit and Excel.I would add Voivod, Laaz Rockitt, Goatwhore, Blood Incantation, Wrathchild America.

Sound of white noise is actually my fav Anthrax album, lol. Love the J.Bush era. Revisiting these older videos, great content as always.

I first found thrash on WJCU John Carroll University radio. A show called "Lights Out." Right about the time Star Trek: Next Generation came out. Was quite eye opening. Thanks for the memories.

It's not dead,alive and well,and I play and listen everyday I'm 43.

As someone who got into metal in my teens around 2010, I remember the trash wave was exciting, the big 4 back going on tour, felt like the interest in Thrash was very much alive. I still love thrash, top 3 metal subgenre for me. Bands like Vektor and Havok give me hope for the future but it's true that it has gotten stale. Fun to see experimental bands give their crack at it like King Gizzard and the Lizzard Wizzard.

Exciter and their first two albums "Heavy Metal Maniac" and "Violence and Force" are two of my favorite thrash albums of all time.

The one really cool thing is we've been in the middle of a pretty long thrash revival. We've had a bunch of newer bands (Revocation walking that line between thrash and tech death, Iron Reagan/Municipal Waste and Power Trip bringing back crossover thrash, The Haunted doing their thing since forever now, Toxic Holocaust, Evile, Send More Paramedics, Havok, etc.), as well as big returns from older bands (Slayer, Exodus, Death Angel, Machine Head...prior to ruining it with whatever the fuck that last album was, Testament, Anthrax, Kreator, Overkill, Exumer, Megadeth-if a bit spotty/controversial. Even Metallica has released a pretty solid thrash-groove album with Death Magnetic, and Hardwired features the two hardest and fastest songs they've recorded since Dyer's Eve and Damage INC!)

Cryptic slaughter deserves a bigger shout imo due to the extremely heavy simple mix on the PUNK side of crossover. Absolutely classic.

I didn't know the bands I was listening too on the radio back when I was a kid in the 90s, were considered thrash. As I got older and into heavier music, I really started to love thrash music. Kreator, anthrax, megadeth and metallica are some of my favorite metal bands. Very nice video on thrash music.

You mention being a big longtime fan of Suicidal Tendencies so I'm really surprised not to hear a mention of Uncle Slam which had maybe three members of Suicidal Tendencies throughout their run. I even still listen to them

Forced Entry’s music video in the grassy field walked so Attack Attack’s music video’s in the grassy field could run!

Metallica came from Thrash Metal to Mainstream Heavy Metal. A7X came from Metalcore to also Mainstream Heavy Metal... . I need a new Mainstream Heavy Metal these days.

For Whose Advantage by Xentrix is one of the greatest thrash hidden gems I’ve ever heard.