I never understood that either

People feel like they have to be extra certain with marriage as it binds you to that person forever. But in reality it's children that bind you a person forever as you will still have to remain in contact even if you separate.

Well marriage should be the milestone before the kid 😹

@NurturingTalents exactly. You should of course marry the right person, but you can get divorced at any time. So feeling like you have to be more cautious about who you marry and not who you have kids with is silly. I honestly don't understand people who think like that, and unfortunately many people do.

The thought of having children before marriage was never something I entertained.

Totally missed that 😂

I re-watched it just to see this. lol

I didn't notice 🤣🤣🤣

1:23

That was funny🤣

Hes not confused; hes an idiot!

SIMP. You can even hear it in his skittish voice. That is so unattractive and most women will jump on that and take advantage for as long as they can and for as much as they can. That doesn't make the woman a bad woman necessarily, it is just how things are. Unfortunately, she has him locked down with a kid so the cards are very much in her favor.

Dwl

lol this what happened when people act as if they do, and they so confused lol

Yayy Areaa 😂😂😂

True!!

Rich dad

Hey would you contact me. We are definitely struggling. I'm trying to figure out how to deal.

That's beautiful

Yes. Dr. Phil on KZfaq.

relationshiT*

But relationships have SO MUCH influence on how money is spent....

Like dave said, money is the symptom. It's never all about money 💰

it always was.

Technically she is one of those people but using that as an excuse to not get married is wrong

Meh, tuition rates these days are absolutely ridiculous, can't blame people for saving money when they can.

@@elmateo77 So obviously you don't respect morals. What Dave and I say is don't sign up for ridiculous tuition if you can't afford it. When you're poor you work double time to not be poor - then you go for upgrading your life.

@@curiouscat3384 Why shouldn't we take advantage of legal loopholes when we can? It's funny how when the rich exploit tax law (which they bribed congress to write with built-in exploits) to avoid paying billions in taxes it's "being smart" but when a middle class person gets tuition assistance suddenly they're immoral...

@@elmateo77 I think when congress avoids taxes and engages in insiders training and takes bribes from powerful people THEY too are immoral and unethical. It hurts all of us. It is NOT okay to do as they do just because they get away with it. Besides, reporting a low income while living on a higher income is not just a loophole, it's flirting with fraud. Selfish any way you look at it because someone who can/could pay their own way is using your and my tax dollars to get ahead. It all comes full circle my friend.

Shes honest, shes single and making 25k and qualify financial, and medicaid for the baby delivery

😆😂😂😂 good one

Lol when people don't realize that millionaire became one because of poor people..🤷😂 100% of his wealth came from his business of selling to poor people... He also lost his a** taking out 90 day mortgage loans...

The world of relationships was different when Dave was starting out.

Owls Shadow 😂😂😂 I can’t lol

Matthew Surratt ok? He clearly helps poor people or else he would not still be in business

PREACH!!!

You gotta give her more credit than that. She's going to finish college, let him pay for it, THEN marry him, THEN divorces him, THEN she can get child support too.

Lol

@@ccayco brilliant. If she marries him after she graduates, he can't claim he put her through school during their marriage. No lie, this guy sounds like he could be easily taken advantage of. Doesn't know his belly button from his butthole.

@@braceyourselvesfortruth2492 he said he's from commiefornia. He's being taken advantage of every step of the way

@@ccayco In some States, they've set precedents where a Man is still on the hook for child support and alimony even IF he is not the biological father, and even IF the guy is not married to her.

That was funny 😂😂😂

😂😂😂

You can be married and women still fo that.

Fathers have legal right to their children.

Naomi Williams yes. As long as they are listed on the birth certificate they have the same legal rights as fathers married to the mother of their child.

This sounds like her plan. She'll find someone better and marry them.

How is he broke? He still has his income and he’ll be free instead

”Kings ” don’t play house. They meticulously build legacies.

“Simp activity”, Casey is out here dropping bars

Casey how many hours you spend in day at KZfaq. I saw your comment in every financial releated video 😁

and a true Queen wouldn't expect or support simp activity either. My wife who's 6 years younger than me, was not interested in letting me pay for her responsibilities, pursuing marriage, or having babies until she finished her doctorate and postdoc, all the while I was firmly established in my career making $200k+. We got married AFTER she became Dr. and landed her first industry job with a $150k+ base salary. Now we're ruling together, building our family and legacy, equally yoked. Don't give up hope men, there's still great women out there.

I second the notion...

If she’s not stupid she wouldn’t. Not many man out there can make 100k+ these days

What even drew you to that conclusion, everyone’s a critic LOL, there’s always that one person that knows their not going to listen

@@SDALLE99 youre saying that shes dumb if she leaves someone who makes alot of money? You sound lovely

Yeah and Dave insists they get married... terrible advice

He is a first time listener.

@@cowboycody8094 That makes sense

Thank you for pointing that out. Every time Dave quotes his millionaire study and turns the found correlations into advice as though they were a confirmed cause I squirm...

Great point, that doesn’t help sell books though so that isn’t brought up!

Yes, what a mess.

Went from NO DEBT to $25,000 by just meeting someone! Yeaaaaaaaaa....

@@HereIsWisdom1318 By just meeting a woman. FIFY. No surprises here. She's playing him like a violin.

Seumas Yep!

And the taxpayer should, as they do in any other first world country. America's higher learning schools are a joke financially.

Reiver Neriah is that what you read in the communist manifesto? This country does provide free college education, it’s called the military. The government backing college loans is the exact reason college is so expensive and you really think more government will work?You’re just a lazy simp that doesn’t want to work and become a man.

Reiver Neriah my oldest is a senior in HS. She just earned a full ride Merit scholarship to our public university. She can live at home and drive in. College isn’t expensive if you work hard in HS and use some common sense about your choices. She can easily work a part time job and pay for books etc. I have one friend though who’s kid opted to live on campus even though it’s easy driving range from home and earned zero scholarship. Zero. They paid 30k for the first year of college. Stupid is expensive no matter where you live

Jim Smith yup. See my comment.

I'm not sure he picked a winner either. Caller said that SHE doesn't want to get married until after she finishes college but it's ok for him to go ahead and pay her bills.

He said he sells life insurance. I got my job at 27 I sell software. My salary isn’t 100k but I regularly make over 100k with my commissions.

He lives in California, $100k/year in CA isn't that great. But Dave was right, with $125k/year income they still should be able to cash flow her college and pay cash for a cheaper vehicle.

Seriously?!?!

Zach L Ohhh I didn’t realize it was CA. So he’s overcharged and taxed on everything including the air he breathes.

Not many- it’s a privilege to have that opportunity. It’s up to us take advantage of the opportunity

What advantage is there for him to be married in this situation? Dave is making it sound like that is profoundly better. It really just means more liability.

@@carultch I think what matters more is the reason she gave for not wanting to marry him should be a non-issue. If she cares more about reduced tuition than marrying him, then she doesn't want to marry him.

@@ASLunar Not necessarily. Anyone in their right mind would want to reduce their expense in life. And if that means delaying marriage until she finishes school, by all means that's the financially responsible thing for her to do. The onus of proof is on the person who wants to change the status quo, so the onus of proof is on the person who believes the couple should be married, or on him for wanting to marry her. Maybe the real question is, what advantage is there for them as a couple to be married in this situation?

@@carultch To be honest I don't know the woman so I'd like to give her the benefit of the doubt, but I seriously doubt she cares about being financially responsible since she just got her boyfriend to spend $15K for a car she couldn't afford. In any case you're right, but that's the problem in my opinion. She doesn't need to get married because the guy is willing to pay for everything as if they already were. For her it's all of the benefits, and none of the commitment.

​@@ASLunar I still don't see the benefit to either one of them, to get married in this situation. She benefits, because of less college tuition. He indirectly benefits for that same reason. He'd be supporting her and the child, regardless of whether they are married or not. Putting aside the extra financial risk of divorce, which is the elephant of the room that Dave fails to consider, I still don't see any benefit for him to be her husband instead of her boyfriend.

That's not how a judge would see it if she has his kid. If she leaves and sues for child support she'll get 20-30% of his income, with no restrictions on how she spends it, and he'll be lucky if he gets visitation rights every other weekend. That's just how family courts work these days, men get shafted pretty much every time.

@@elmateo77 depending on if he can get a lawyer, he could end up with custody because of his income

@@michellerichardson3090 Nah the judge will just give her a large portion of his income lol.

@@elmateo77 you've never been to family court. Seen plenty of men walk oit of court with their kids.

Im willing to bet he doesn’t even earn that much

Correction... She makes 25k a year... And 125k is not that much in many parts of the US...🤷

Every dime helps.

Tuition in some schools is $50k+ per year, so if she's getting a 100% scholarship it definitely makes sense for her to do whatever it takes to maintain that.

California 100k is like Midwest 35k

MRosso666 not that big a difference but I understand

Jay no it really is that big of a difference. I live in LA with my husband and we make a tad over 100k and we live in third world conditions.

Annie i just ran the analysis. To maintain the same 100k living standards moving from LA to southern Minnesota (not Minneapolis), you’d need 60k with housing being the main difference maker

Annie i couldn’t move to Cali. I constantly see engineering opportunities for myself but i can’t do it. You gotta be either rich or poor in LA. Theyd tax tf out of me on a 120k salary in LA plus with housing cost... no reason to be there. Horrible for the middle class. I’m in Vegas. Close enough. Wayyyyy cheaper

I’d get a Passport out of the country

“I’m not ready for the commitment of marriage” he says, with a kid, a shared car and paying off her loans. So dumb.

It's a strange new word to describe basically a wimp.

@@saulgoodman2018 ummm idk the pattern that seems to keep playing out?

You've never been a stay at home mom ehh? Its not that like winning the lottery 😂

Soon realize? More like he's the mark she was looking for all along.

Wonder what kind of women seek out guys like that.

@@Sara_The_Feral_Housewife True. My wife stays home. But she homeschools our girls. So that makes this job for her a full job. If our kids went off to school 8 hours a day then it's a bit more arguable(though not a lottery win still).

They want to be undisciplined and have all the benefits that the rest of us have and had to work hard for to get. This can lead to your life being more and more difficult as time goes by...time to grow up.

Spoken like a true simp. Good job Beta Blake.

You sound like a wuss 😂

Agreed

Ordinarily I would say they should get married, but in this case they are both tricking the system. To me it says that they are both selfish and will take all they can. If that is their mentality, wouldn’t that cause them to treat each other the same? Take what you can get mentality. I think your spouse should have similar views to you one ethics and morality.

Yeah I guess it hits different when someone else jas to tell you

They call Dave because their gut tells them they are wrong!

Knows the answer to what? The caller was never allowed to ask his question.

Well if theyre working they're tax payers too so more like "taking advantage of the system"

Umm please explain how making 25k a year is "cheating" that's literally what she makes...

Matthew Surratt It’s cheating when you tell your school you only make 25k a year to get financial aid but allow your baby daddy to pay off your student loans. If he can afford to pay off loans, you are both living off his and your own salary. Can guarantee she is on welfare and food stamps as well pretending as if she is a single mother living on 25 when in fact she is NOT. She lost all credibility. She is milking the system while Simultaneously milking her baby daddy.

@@shutupandeatasmr4498 it's still the boyfriend's income, not hers.. there is no law stating a boyfriend/girlfriend has to pay for your college... So until they file taxes together.. she legally only makes 25k and is eligible for aid.

Matthew Surratt Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. She is not living off 25k he has made that clear. If you believe she is, you’re as gullible as the baby daddy. If you want to keep defending individuals who are bums and bastardize the system for their own gain, your prerogative buddy!

@MatthewSurratt When considering her integrity, it’s not about what her taxes show, it’s about her understanding of her own situation and the purpose of FAFSA. Taking away someone’s opportunity to attend college, who truly cannot afford it, while you are living with your boyfriend, who makes a considerable about money and is obviously kind enough to take on her portion of the bills, is being tricky and dishonest! I’m not saying she doesn’t deserve to go to college, but there are thousands of scholarship programs out there that she may qualify for without having to lie about her income. She is knowingly taking college money away from the poor to make her own life more comfortable and that speaks a lot about her character.

He clearly states that he's a first time listener at the beginning.

and did you catch how he said, well, maybe more like $60k - $100k? there's a BIG difference between the two figures.

Don't try to get married either. It rarely works out.

Rachel who, Rachel Cruz?

Ulysses 'the U' Smith yeah man! She looks just like Dave if you look closely

@@JamesJamersonIsAGod never noticed to you pointed out just surprised because I never heard them mention it lol.

Ya... And they all work for daddy...🤷😂

@@thehomeless_trucker isn’t that ultimately the goal lol or you want your kids to start from square one and unnecessarily struggle 💀

Yeah well it doesn’t always work out that way sweetheart

@@MissyTC-86 It does for smart people.

That ship sailed on him when her belly swelled up.

@@justinacase2623 Well, if she doesn't want to get married, then he's under to obligations beyond supporting a being a dad to the kid. She's decided that she's going to control his life on her schedule. What kind of life is that for him?

@@yamamancha exactly, I'm guessing once she has a degree, she will be on to another sucker. You are right tho, if she wanted to be married she would force his hand.

Never enter into a contract with someone who gets paid to break it

He doesn’t hang up, just mutes them

Oh my God I literally texted screenshots to my friend! Her eyes are so big and she's self-soothing by rubbing her lips. Towards the end of the episode she literally turtles herself into her sweater 🤣

She's Dave's daughter lol

I said something similar to this. Dave is old fashioned and as soon as he hears baby and living together he screams get married. Sometimes there are deeper issues with why they aren’t married. I wish he’d encourage couples therapy before screaming go down to the court house. Sometimes people emotionally are stuck and play house because they don’t know what they want or how to get OUT, and are merely there for convenience. When someone brings up marriage they coward away or make excuses, “financial reasons” bcus it makes them uncomfortable bcus they know deep down they don’t want to marry this person. My friend got a random chick knocked up out of high school and his parents forced him to marry her and has been miserable ever since.

Never enter into a contract with someone who gets paid to break it!

It’s about money yes. It is also about trust and knowing you have a partner for life. If marriage is off the table, at least be honest and say you love each other for now and split all expenses with a budget and explain to your children that you still love them no matter what. Without marriage it is so easy to walk away and you should definitely prepare your finances and children for that possibility. I would imagine it is hard to play house if the finances are not mixed. IMO Marriage is a wonderful thing (after the first few years, but it takes a LOT of work and compromise. As you age, it is also a great feeling that he/she has your back in every situation. It doesn’t seem like much when you are single, but ask older married couples. Everyone I know who was married more than 10 years or more bicker and argue, but their love is evident and unwavering. No one I asked ever said it is easy. Good luck

@@betruetoyourself7162 there is no upside to getting married ever! For a man that is. For a woman it can be a lottery windfall. Never enter into a contract with someone who gets paid to break it.

Azzo ok I respect your opinion. In my opinion, my parents were happy my spouses parents were happy, I have some cousins married for for 30+ years and most everyone says their happy. Both men and women. But each person I asked knew their partner over a year before pulling the trigger. If nothing else, marriage bring stability and calm to a person’s life. Being single looks exciting, but every time my spouse and I talk to our coworkers, it sounds so superficial and meaningless. Our co workers talk about dating and tinder and idk, but it really sounds like no deep connections are being made....

@@betruetoyourself7162 It's not an opinion, it's a fact. Marriage is a contract that gives a perverse incentive to the woman to break it.