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@octbaby88
@octbaby88 Жыл бұрын
It just annoys me that Nancy had more heat for Cole than for Bartise during the reunion. 😒🙄
@joykinser
@joykinser Жыл бұрын
Apparently they filmed more about Bartise but it got edited out.
@Momo-po5tn
@Momo-po5tn Жыл бұрын
@@joykinser how can you know? Was there a leak?
@BlackQueenA1825
@BlackQueenA1825 Жыл бұрын
@@Momo-po5tn Someone who was on the show said it. I don't remember who in particular but I saw that too
@joykinser
@joykinser Жыл бұрын
@@BlackQueenA1825 Thanks for commenting! Yeah I’m pretty sure it was a comment Raven made on a Tiktok. I tried to find it but I’ve seen other comments saying they saw that too, so I’m pretty sure it’s there somewhere!
@Heidy4s88
@Heidy4s88 Жыл бұрын
She was only trying to stand up for her friend. I think everybody misses that fact that some people are passionate about defending the ones they care about. But now we know Zanab was in the wrong and I wonder how the girls feel.
@Daddysports79
@Daddysports79 Жыл бұрын
When Bartise said he and Raven shared so many connections and she corrected him with “SIMILARITIES” and then he starts agreeing but still didn’t quite get it. That was absolute gold
@ReginaVestra
@ReginaVestra Жыл бұрын
I personally think Bartise was intentionally trying to cause conflict between his family and Nancy to be honest. When he did it I thought "Wow. He is going to use his family not liking her as a reason to break up". He knew how his family felt about the topic. He knew how Nancy stood. There was nothing to discuss.
@abbieclement
@abbieclement Жыл бұрын
Exactly! It's funny because his sister actually encouraged him to stay with Nancy, so he couldn't use the family as a proper excuse to break up. Anyone who has been through a relationship with a manipulator could spot Bartise's tricks a mile away
@justjustjusification
@justjustjusification Жыл бұрын
Totally! He also brought some involvement of ex into investments, but it looked like an excuse and not like it bothered him truly.
@ReginaVestra
@ReginaVestra Жыл бұрын
@@abbieclement This! Lol not going to lie, when I saw his sister going to bat for her I chuckled a little because it was at that point he knew that lane was closed.
@LKTori
@LKTori Жыл бұрын
Bartise’s sister crying…im sorry it made me laugh cause 😭😭 Nancy was being very logical with her argument and she was crying over children who don’t exist and she wouldn’t even have to push out ?? like that was so odd to me
@ReginaVestra
@ReginaVestra Жыл бұрын
@@LKTori Omg it was so awkward. I guess maybe if she has experienced loss in some way I could see her being sad at the thought.. maybe? But like she was putting a lot of emotions into another woman's uterus lol
@kaylaciara8881
@kaylaciara8881 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you mentioned the weird "money all over the pod floors, nightlife worker shaming" mess that Bartiste did to Raven! It felt so childish and cruel and I found it surprising that no one thought it was worth bringing up! His behavior was strange but so discreet, he got away with alot of rude crap! Saved Nancy a bigger heartbreak for sure!
@13zomi
@13zomi Жыл бұрын
THIS! Everyone got on Cole who's just a little dense and immature, but I feel like Bartise was a lot more calculating: that money on the floor thing because he wanted to get back at Raven for exercising while he was talking; bringing up abortion to his family knowing they would ambush Nancy; giving Nancy the silent treatment because he was upset with her; telling Nancy that Raven is hotter than her straight to her face...the list goes on smh
@rosellavaughn5394
@rosellavaughn5394 Жыл бұрын
OK, I haven't watched the show, only this video, but when the money thing came up I was actually super super shocked. This to me is a gross joke. I've never worked at a club or anything but a "joke" like that when you're breaking off a connection with someone is a hard fail. Was insensitive. Maybe even maliciously so. Especially given that others warned him of the other men. I hope he has learned that that joke was in bad taste and made him look bad more than anything and made me feel relieved that raven was getting rid of him even tho she had to experience his poor sense of humor to get there. The bigness of it only amplifies how bad it was. If he truly believes that it was a funny thing and would endear him to her for taking her thing that others have condemned her for lightly, he really needs to learn a thing or two about hoomanz.
@naseebagarba1828
@naseebagarba1828 Жыл бұрын
@@rosellavaughn5394 I was so shocked. Raven handled it well. I would have snapped
@connie27100
@connie27100 Жыл бұрын
That was so twisted. wow. This is what happens when you open up to people with narc tendencies. they use that persons sensitives against them
@cindyben3089
@cindyben3089 Жыл бұрын
Raven doing jumping jacks & push ups while Bratstoll was talking, said she definitely wasn’t interested.
@xtuffcookiex
@xtuffcookiex Жыл бұрын
I don't regret saying this; Nancy was too good for him. After making such shallow comments and how he talked up Raven looks it was a no.
@sharchannel1836
@sharchannel1836 Жыл бұрын
And Nancy was beautiful
@Momo-po5tn
@Momo-po5tn Жыл бұрын
Nancy was the prettiest to me too
@Mj783980
@Mj783980 Жыл бұрын
I think he was being bluntly honest. Would you have preferred if he reserved those comments and still had the feelings? Repressed it then surprise Nancy with his true feelings later? I also think it's interesting that you can say Nancy is "too good" for him. Bartise had his issues but Nancy isn't a blameless victim. Explain how she's "too good" for him to me.
@Eiramzify
@Eiramzify Жыл бұрын
@@Mj783980 tbh I love when ppl are honest, however tone and how you say things matter lol Bartise don't care how he comes off and that's the problem
@Mj783980
@Mj783980 Жыл бұрын
@@Eiramzify Imo you can't tone police the truth. It's almost at times a contradiction. it's like saying you want the truth, but watered down and softened so it's palatable, so mix it with some non-truth. What do you think the intent of Bartise's expression of the truth to Nancy was? Do you think he was trying to hurt her?
@samofsamnation7523
@samofsamnation7523 Жыл бұрын
I liked Nancy until she started seriously ignoring the red flags. It just reminded me of myself when I was in an abusive relationship, and it really frustrated me. I still like her, her behavior just hit too close to home for me.
@sheila11227
@sheila11227 Жыл бұрын
Same!
@alextroy9202
@alextroy9202 Жыл бұрын
What were the red flags?
@789.f
@789.f Жыл бұрын
@@alextroy9202 everything just mentioned in the video
@ladydulaney
@ladydulaney Жыл бұрын
Same! I was shocked she not only said "yes" but that she claimed to be "blindsided" by his "no". I was like really?
@amandareed4689
@amandareed4689 Жыл бұрын
I thought she was a baddie at first but now I just think she’s weak and has no self esteem.
@sharalhall5911
@sharalhall5911 Жыл бұрын
Nancy was asked what she would hope for Bartis going forward & she said self-love. She has so much compassion for HIM but he had none for her
@esmee5849
@esmee5849 Жыл бұрын
Tbh I thought him bringing up the abortion thing with his family was him trying to sabotage the relationship & to give him a more "valid" reason to say no in the end
@andihunter7104
@andihunter7104 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. It was almost like he needed her to be the villain in this one aspect because he had nothing else to justify how horribly he was treating her.
@onionioni5767
@onionioni5767 Жыл бұрын
@@andihunter7104 exactly
@a.b.2405
@a.b.2405 Жыл бұрын
You know, he did mention his love would fizzle out in his previous relationships. That stuck with me and it definitely foreshadowed the ending of their relationship.
@BlackQueenA1825
@BlackQueenA1825 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I already knew he wouldn't make it to the alter when he said that
@perdybirdie
@perdybirdie Жыл бұрын
Agree. That should have told Nancy to run asap. Same when SK told raven "at 3am the streets were callin" when she complained about hik getting late night calls from "nigeria" along with her dead fish metaphor. Both Nancy and Raven ignored MAJOR foreshadowing beforehand that I swore they would have taken seriously.
@bakakaka.
@bakakaka. Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Hearing him say that early on after the proposals immediately gave me doubts and that he might back out pretty quickly once things started feeling more real. Also when he talked to Nancy's brothers and he slipped out "I'm an emotionally unavailable guy" I was like did I hear that right ??.. Just gave me the vibe over and over that he was not ready for marriage and that Nancy wasn't the one for him.
@unicornL
@unicornL Жыл бұрын
Yeah it really did. Also he said something about if you bought a house w an ex, he'd have an issue. So that was Nancy's actual situation w her ex.
@GPG0000
@GPG0000 Жыл бұрын
Yes, he has commitment phobia
@Chan.M
@Chan.M Жыл бұрын
After seeing Raven, Bartiste starting looking for a way out. He relied on the abortion conversation to find fault in Nancy but as you said he doesn't have a mind of his own because to me he is ok with abortion. If he's ok to have at least one he is not against it. He just has double standards when it comes to the topic. In the wedding scene I was confused when she was telling her family to leave. I thought she was going to continue the relationship after all of that because she definitely fell in love and kept on ignoring his faults. The fact that she was even going to say yes is concerning because he showed her serious red flags. However, I am so happy with how she dealt with him. My favourite part was her taking off that bracelet. He's simply just an immature and vein little boy who has a lot to learn. They need new hosts for the reunion because he definitely got off the hook with almost everything he did.
@deziahnails8790
@deziahnails8790 Жыл бұрын
She wanted to talk to him alone as two adults I think. If my family acted like that o would be embarrassed because I’d be like “I’m not a charity case. I don’t need y’all to beg him to be w me I can handle this myself”. They didn’t even stop to think if SHE had things she wanted to say for HER closure. That’s how I took it at least..
@cindyben3089
@cindyben3089 Жыл бұрын
@@deziahnails8790 problem is one you involve your family into ur relationship, they will always have an opinion or something to say. Especially when the family told you he wasn’t the one. I hate this show because I don’t think the alter is not the place to decide.. Maybe the day before, like a wedding rehearsal .
@aspireistoinspirebeforewee3519
@aspireistoinspirebeforewee3519 Жыл бұрын
@@cindyben3089 yeah but there is a time and place. She told them that was not the place
@kristinamedinaagee3452
@kristinamedinaagee3452 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Vanessa and Nick are such hypocrites for giving Cole all that shit and not saying anything about Bartises convo with Raven, saying she was hot, and then saying no at the alter for literally no reason. I still don’t get his explanation
@tacarraalyse7822
@tacarraalyse7822 Жыл бұрын
He was definitely nitpicking because that abortion conversation was not as serious as the show overall made it out to be. Those are conversations that have to be had and it is what it is.
@berbel5000
@berbel5000 Жыл бұрын
The fact that after the pool party Bartise started talking about his relationship with Nancy in the past tense while Nancy was LITERALLY sitting NEXT to him. Major red flag 🚩
@Kaytube19
@Kaytube19 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Bartise placing the fake money in Raven’s pod was meant to insult her after his ego was hurt from her exercising while he was sharing that “touching” story in the pod; another way of him trying to preserve his fragile ego. Thanks so much for sharing, love your breakdowns 💕💕💕
@juliecortes8459
@juliecortes8459 Жыл бұрын
Great observation!
@dazedfay5286
@dazedfay5286 Жыл бұрын
i really wish they would have these couples see a therapist while on the show!
@isideb91
@isideb91 Жыл бұрын
Please make a video on Raven!! She is such an interesting character. I too thought she was vain at first and even was pretty annoyed with her, but like you said, she just saw through people’s BS and knew what she wanted. Also: Can you do break down how she handled the pool situation with Bartise so gracefully? Such a queen moment!!!
@tundeannadioszegi4645
@tundeannadioszegi4645 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but she was not interested either, so it was easy for her to turn him down.
@simonah4911
@simonah4911 Жыл бұрын
@@tundeannadioszegi4645 She said she had problems with that she always go for good looking guys and not for the connection. I think she must be mature to handled the pool situation that well. She told that was her red flag but in the end she behave very mature.
@sharalhall5911
@sharalhall5911 Жыл бұрын
He needed Raven to compliment him & how she did not even give him an opening
@afronativebeauty
@afronativebeauty Жыл бұрын
The way he immediately cut Nancy off after his family asked her about what she wanted in life (her time to shine mentioning her accomplishments) just to bring up the abortion subject was wild. Also, while the couples were at the bar when Nancy was confiding in Andrew, you could See the insecurities coming out of Bartise. How he approached them, and the energy in which he chose to say things was a Lot! Meanwhile he spent a Lot of time chatting up Raven at the pool. And tracing her figure every time she was in his vicinity smh. The projection from him was too much for me, and I was shocked that he got away with soo much. I was hoping to see more people pointing this out. Especially at the reunion.
@hwmusic57
@hwmusic57 Жыл бұрын
The part that really got me was when Bartise threw a major possessive tantrum over Nancy just chatting with Andrew while he was in his passive aggressive rejection stage with her. Where did that come from? There were red flags leading up to that, but it was when I decided she should walk away.
@lunarosa321
@lunarosa321 4 ай бұрын
I actually didn’t buy the whole possessive tantrum it seemed fake and like he actually wanted Nancy to say she had second thoughts and liked Andrew more so that he could be off the hook and have even more excuses as to why it wasn’t “working out”.
@lanagustafson2905
@lanagustafson2905 Жыл бұрын
Omg Nancy’s poop story. I was like “girl, stop talking!” 😂 she was probably just nervous and flustered
@dudaresende955
@dudaresende955 Жыл бұрын
I think She definitively lost bartise there 😂😂
@pitbull7885
@pitbull7885 Жыл бұрын
@@dudaresende955 yeah it was too soon to talk about stuff like that especially on nationally tv.
@joykinser
@joykinser Жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="304">5:04</a> They were always saying, “It’s the ____ for me,” this whole season! <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="354">5:54</a> Yes that! I felt like Brennan was the only guy who was genuinely loving his fiancée because when they asked what he loved about Alexa he listed things about her. But the rest of the guys (this season and past too, honestly) the answers are like, “Because she chose me. Because she makes me feel better. Because I feel good about myself when she praises me.” Very self focused answers, looking for their ego boost more than seeing their fiancées for who they are.
@BaGa95Brr
@BaGa95Brr Жыл бұрын
I know right they were all saying that phrase like why is everyone talking like that 🤣
@alijohnson190
@alijohnson190 10 ай бұрын
The same in season 4 except for Brett
@205Chizzle
@205Chizzle Жыл бұрын
I actually thought it was weird when Bartiste was talking about them sleeping together on the honeymoon, and he just kept bragging about it like a high school kid. Its one thing admitting they had sex, but the way he just kept going on and on, and bragging like a kid, like he was seeking some level of validation like me and others guys did in our teenage/young adult years. It really showed me how immature he was to talk about your fiancé in that manner, as if sleeping with someone is still some type of accomplishment.
@Momo-po5tn
@Momo-po5tn Жыл бұрын
Thats how all those scenes are at all the first "group dates" its for the men and women to brag about their sex and potentially isolate those who haven't jumped into it
@Emchav99
@Emchav99 Жыл бұрын
And then in the reunion he was like “I don’t talk about my sex life” hahaha
@LEA-yr7bb
@LEA-yr7bb Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy guys can sleep with someone they aren’t even attracted to
@samtula5946
@samtula5946 Жыл бұрын
@@LEA-yr7bb right? Why did he sleep with her so many times if he wasn’t attracted? Lol how stupid
@meli7315
@meli7315 10 ай бұрын
“She wouldn’t handle another round” 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ really disrespectful
@anon0268
@anon0268 Жыл бұрын
I’m still laughing at the fact that he kept on insinuating that he was Latino, like when he talked about the tattoo of a Spanish quote. He wasn’t expecting Nancy to be Latina. But then you meet his parents, and they are both White & Black Americans 💀
@carlam.8776
@carlam.8776 Жыл бұрын
This!!!!! Yeah and then during one of the pods he referred to his grandma as “abuela” . Smh
@anon0268
@anon0268 Жыл бұрын
@@carlam.8776 Yess, he said that his grandma called him “Mijo”. So embarrassing! Lmao
@lipsticknpistol
@lipsticknpistol Жыл бұрын
Thank youuuuuu!!!!! That was so cringe. Like what the actual FUCK?!?!?!?!?!?!!!?!?!?!
@susy1098
@susy1098 Жыл бұрын
Yeahhh I was super confused loll
@mpg1146
@mpg1146 Жыл бұрын
I do not know of Bartise roots and cant stand him. But. You do realize ppl speak spanish in europe too? Meaning, there is a lot of ppl you would consider white that speak spanish as their mother tongue.
@daisyluvvv8738
@daisyluvvv8738 Жыл бұрын
Sk & Raven!!!! & please talk about the cheating scandal. It’s so crazy how Sk turned out to be the villain in this situation.
@ray9772
@ray9772 Жыл бұрын
Omg what happened?
@thecutbeautii3399
@thecutbeautii3399 Жыл бұрын
SK bamboozled us all girl
@winterbaby286
@winterbaby286 Жыл бұрын
He gave me weird vibes from the start. To me it seemed like he was echoing all the things that Raven was saying. It didn't feel genuine
@alextroy9202
@alextroy9202 Жыл бұрын
@@jacquelynXleigha random girl…a STRANGER
@QuanMa
@QuanMa Жыл бұрын
Like father like son
@almachacon6105
@almachacon6105 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for defending Nancy because she gets a lot of hate for falling in love, and she wasn't sure in the end until Bartise bought jewlery and said to her: let's do it! When Bartise said no, that was the end for her with him, so she was not dumb just had hope.
@AlwaysLisaLisa
@AlwaysLisaLisa Жыл бұрын
Blindsided
@melaniedevon3708
@melaniedevon3708 Жыл бұрын
i’m surprised not too many people have been discussing the way that bartise gaslit nancy when he wasn’t feeling physically attracted to her. he was not showing affection because he was having doubts about the physical connection and when she brought this up to him he told her that she was needy when in reality it was just his own doubts about the physical connection. i also feel that he took it to such great lengths by telling her that her values on topics like abortion was why he wasn’t physically attracted to her when this physical attraction issue started much earlier on (when he showed his friends nancy and saw raven for the first time. the relationship was looking like the groundwork for covert narcissistic abuse.
@LoraK31
@LoraK31 Жыл бұрын
Bartise really got off easy in the reunion! Also, (to answer your question from the beginning) Jarrette sort of half-proposed to Mallory, which she turned down. But besides that, I don't think there was a full proposal that had been turned down yet.
@AlwaysLisaLisa
@AlwaysLisaLisa Жыл бұрын
His apology and accountability like Cole should've been responded to the same. Weird. And they both deserved a break.
@stephanieleon5970
@stephanieleon5970 Жыл бұрын
My son walked in during the scene with Bartise’s weird dollar bill move, and he was like, “What a douche move. I don’t like that, guy Mom.” And at that time, I was like, “Up until this moment, I have totally been on this guy’s side and I have been shipping him and this other girl, Nancy, hardcore. But, I agree, I think he really missed the mark with this dollar bill thing. I think he’s being petty, and I think it’s mean, and he’s trying to play it off as a joke.” And I stand by that. Especially after watching the rest of the season.
@AlwaysLisaLisa
@AlwaysLisaLisa Жыл бұрын
She likely would've shut him down in the pool scene anyway. She wanted to be paired up wanted to make family or was wanting to get as much airtime as possible. Either way when she was exercising etc while he was talking no interest in him LOL
@LipSyncLover
@LipSyncLover Жыл бұрын
Your son was raised right
@debradias8288
@debradias8288 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. What a weird gesture that was!
@kaileeslife
@kaileeslife Жыл бұрын
I sat here for 10 mins waiting, thinking wth is going on. Until I realized “premieres in 2 hours” means it’ll premiere in 2 hours lol
@StephAnya
@StephAnya Жыл бұрын
Haha sorry!!! Hopefully I'll see you in the chat soon!
@trulymexoxo925
@trulymexoxo925 Жыл бұрын
Haha you are me during my exams 😭
@HomemakingwithAlly
@HomemakingwithAlly Жыл бұрын
His physical “type” was literally his sister! When his sister showed up to his suit fitting I was so shocked at how similar she looked to Raven, it was odd. Him being weird about his fiancé not being “hot enough” and not being attracted to her was so odd to me because she is GORGEOUS and so emotionally mature💜 I hope she find the perfect guy for her. Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder🤷🏽‍♀️
@SuperAfikaaShow
@SuperAfikaaShow Жыл бұрын
Honestly when Nancy met Barstool's family I was like, why the hell is Raven here? Then i realized that woman is actually his sister...
@mirabanxx9218
@mirabanxx9218 Жыл бұрын
I agree, Nancy is stunning. And I was wondering if Bartise even had proper eyessight while he was gassing Raven up while Nancy was lying next to him in their bed. Like dude really? Is the woman right next to you not gorgeous? Nancy definitely deserves better
@heezypeasy8611
@heezypeasy8611 Жыл бұрын
Yes his sister and Raven look soo much alike. It's weird. I cannot stand Barftise
@WilliamsPinch
@WilliamsPinch Жыл бұрын
You guys, he wants someone fit/slim. Nancy had pudge. He clearly likes his women with flat tummy’s and a small waist. He’s a fit guy. I think he finds her beautiful, but not her physique. Which is why the sex suffered.
@Momo-po5tn
@Momo-po5tn Жыл бұрын
His sister looks nothing like Raven
@carminecuevas6011
@carminecuevas6011 Жыл бұрын
I am surprised that Stephanie did not talk about the scene where Nancy is talking about her real estate investments. That scene was so weird to me because it felt like Nancy trying to convince Bartise with money. She was like everything I have would be half yours. I thought she was very much pleading with him a lot throughout the show to stay with her.
@beautyandthebar4071
@beautyandthebar4071 Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting take. My first impression of it was that Nancy was trying to show him her financial plan and wanted him to be a part of it and not feel intimidated. Especially because he knew that her ex was already a part of it and was concerned about that.
@amazongemsandmore
@amazongemsandmore Жыл бұрын
I don't think so she was just letting him know that this is what I get my money from and yes her ex partner help me alone the way....what I don't get is when Bartise acts as if there wasn't anyone in her life before him come along that's what his big issue was that her ex own apart of her business....
@789.f
@789.f Жыл бұрын
@@beautyandthebar4071 exactly how I think it was intended as well. Plus these are things you have to discuss if you are engaged.
@oliviah.5846
@oliviah.5846 Жыл бұрын
I think it was a little of both, maybe? It’s so obvious he was making this beautiful, capable woman feel so insecure in their relationship. So she probably was trying to demonstrate what she financially brings to the table and help him to see she’s serious about their relationship. I think his blatant and repeated rejections probably made her constantly feel like she was grasping at straws, doing anything she could to try to get back what they had in the pods. I feel for her:(
@jamielynn28
@jamielynn28 Жыл бұрын
I agree, also with the other replies too. I just feel like he was truly blind sighted with the actual involvement with her ex. Which makes me wonder if that held any weight to her dealing with his crap lol. It seems like he has a lot of self development left to do and maybe she has some variation of avoidant attachment wounding?
@ArtByHazel
@ArtByHazel Жыл бұрын
Bartese wasn’t ready at all. Nancy can look back with gratitude that it didn’t worked out. She’s definitely mature.
@winniemoline8930
@winniemoline8930 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping you would mention that he purposely blindsided her with the shot that said “let’s do the damn thing” like 20 minutes before the ceremony. He really gave her hope to tear it down
@MegaMegaChu
@MegaMegaChu Жыл бұрын
Nancy stated in a TikTok live that she did confront Bartise at the reunion but it was cut from the final edit unfortunately.
@CS-dw4kw
@CS-dw4kw Жыл бұрын
The editors/production protected Bartise WAY too much.
@kiaratoroperez
@kiaratoroperez Жыл бұрын
THATS SO UPSETTING bc he was so much worse than cole
@emilyhenderson1740
@emilyhenderson1740 Жыл бұрын
I find that really hard to believe. The reunion had SO much filler like Bartise congratulating himself and Nancy for discussing abortion on tv, I can’t imagine that a confrontation was left out. It would have been a lot more interesting. Zanab also accused the show of bad editing and that didn’t really pan out…
@anastasiiabobeshko
@anastasiiabobeshko Жыл бұрын
When Bartise got Nancy a permanent bracelet and then said no, I was like: waaaat? Now, I understand, why Nancy said that he was giving her mixed signals and said that they will end up together.
@mandypaz
@mandypaz Жыл бұрын
literally when he brought up that hypothetical abortion to his family had me here thinking "wow this man is hella immature and inappropriate speaking on what her views were on something that would be so personal to her... it's her uterus,.. her body .. her choice .. period .. why is this a family discussion? .. ew bartise,... just ew. "
@anastasiiabobeshko
@anastasiiabobeshko Жыл бұрын
100%, it’s such an intimate conversation, I would never brought up something like this in front of my family if I really wanted to be with this person. I mean, come on.
@BlackQueenA1825
@BlackQueenA1825 Жыл бұрын
I'm also really happy that you addressed the money on the floor thing because no one else ever does. I definitely did not think that it was an acceptable joke. The thing that I wonder about with that situation was if he was trying to anger Raven enough to make her upset with him and initiate the breakup herself. I say that because I think that Bartise seemed to have the tendency to avoid the confrontations ways that would make himself look less bad. For example, I think that bringing up the abortion conversation in front of his family was a way to sabotage the relationship with Nancy because he already knew that it would make his family not accept her. So later, when he did break up with her, his family would say "well she wasn't right for you" rather than "why did you leave her? She was amazing". I think that with the Raven thing, since she made it clear that this was a very vulnerable thing for her, if she did get upset, he could say "well she broke up with me" or "well, she couldn't take a joke" rather than be like "I broke up with her". I think he's trying to avoid real accountability.
@abbieclement
@abbieclement Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think he was just trying to hurt her for essentially rejecting him first (exercising while he was talking). She clocked what he was and basically dismissed him indirectly. Even when he pointed out the exercise, she barely apologized. To save face he wanted to "break up with her and choose nancy" but literally 2 mins before she started exercising he was saying that he chose her above Nancy. Raven knew what he was trying to do with the dollar bills and just barely reacted.
@DCamp1271
@DCamp1271 Жыл бұрын
I really like your take on this, Angel. He's very manipulative. I am still stunned at the money on the floor.
@tamtai5824
@tamtai5824 Жыл бұрын
I would really like to see a video about the success of Alexa and Brandon's relationship - now we've enjoyed listening to the ones that did break up or are a bit iffy , I am curious about how/why some relationships do seem to work so well🙂
@MaryJoHeadrick
@MaryJoHeadrick Жыл бұрын
Something that I found really interesting with Bartise and Raven in the pods is that Bartise started the conversation about breaking things off, but Raven finished it by being like "yep totally agree, we are not a good fit." and it seemed like once she did that, Bartise spent a good portion of the show outside of the pods trying to change her mind? Idk if other people felt that way, but he seemed like he wanted to get her to go back on her saying she wasn't feeling it with him and it was SO weird
@DaniQuinteroC
@DaniQuinteroC Жыл бұрын
Great analysis 👏 I think Nancy was was willing to do and accept everything just to prove to herself that she could be with a man as handsome (not that I find him that way) as Bartise. It was very disappointing to see her position towards him at the reunion.
@GG-kn2se
@GG-kn2se Жыл бұрын
Your analysis is the first that’s genuinely helpful and applicable for any third party watching this. Also impressively non-judgemental. Thank you also.
@iismyalias
@iismyalias Жыл бұрын
Bartise put Nancy on the spot with his family in order to have an excuse to screen her out. After he saw Raven, even though Nancy is gorgeous and Raven was NOT interested, he really didn't want Nancy anymore. Nancy was too much of a woman for him and I hope she finds a strong, intelligent, emotionally mature man that is worthy of what she has to offer.
@NaturalBeauty321
@NaturalBeauty321 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown, doc! Loved hearing your insights. As a viewer of the show, the sole difference I saw between Bartise, Shake, and Andrew is that Bartise knew how to hide his con. He manipulated Nancy into thinking he was a sure thing so that HE could’ve been the one to tell her no. That was what that the whole “we’ve got this” text nonsense the morning of their wedding was all about. And sadly, Nancy said yes to him when she was asked first. And the more she talks about how much she still loves/ wants/ misses him, the more inflated his fragile ego becomes. That man isn’t a fraction of Nancy’s worth. I hope she finds a great man worthy of her awesomeness someday
@andihunter7104
@andihunter7104 Жыл бұрын
I wish you had talked about the fact that almost constantly Bartise was speaking negatively about Nancy to others and TO Nancy. It was reminiscent of Shake- but Bartise had the audacity to say these disparaging things TO Nancy. When Matt was complaining about Colleen going out, Bartise tells him that he WISHES he was attracted to his fiancé the way Matt was attracted to Colleen. I wish the reunion had asked her about it because that stood out to me as particularly cruel given how close to the end of the experiment they were. I was also gobsmacked to witness the conversation where he fawns over Raven and calls her a smoke show. Nancy’s reaction to that conversation- deer in headlights, nodding stiffly was mind-boggling. It’s bizarre that she continued to pursue him when he very clearly did not like her and want to be with her. He also began to withhold physical affection and be distant with her- all while she chased after him eagerly. It was an incredibly odd dynamic to witness because it truly felt like Nancy didn’t have the self-esteem to stand up for herself.
@datingdiaries1681
@datingdiaries1681 Жыл бұрын
The self esteem of women is so vitally important.
@daylovee
@daylovee Жыл бұрын
I 100% love reviews that you do!! Your insight is amazing when I notice certain scenes especially with the abortion topic I was cringing the entire time... I mean his family seemed to only be in the house for less than 30 minutes before this really intense serious conversation came up without them even getting to know her as a person. I too am glad that he said no and save them both a lot of heartache in the long run although I'm sure it sucks right now.
@SuperSweetup
@SuperSweetup Жыл бұрын
Tbh I found it so funny when bartise and Nancy first met Bartise said “you better run” meanwhile he was still walking. He thought he was too hot for her from the beginning
@nokhanyon6288
@nokhanyon6288 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a Love is Blind US vs Love is Blind Japan video. I felt like LIBJapan participants approached the experiment in a much more thoughtful, honest, vulnerable, mature way as opposed to the US participants. And any insight you could provide into how the participants in the pods could approach their "dating" so that they're more successful outside of the pods.
@dimarks444
@dimarks444 Жыл бұрын
The LIB Japanese participants were much better.
@whitneykyera8955
@whitneykyera8955 Жыл бұрын
SK & Raven next, please!!!
@WilliamsPinch
@WilliamsPinch Жыл бұрын
You’ve given us consistent LOOKS🔥 I really appreciate that!
@lolgrigio
@lolgrigio Жыл бұрын
omg RIGHT she's a dream to watch and listen to
@oliviah.5846
@oliviah.5846 Жыл бұрын
YES!!❤
@Cornflower20
@Cornflower20 Жыл бұрын
I loved this breakdown! It really helped solidify some thoughts that I had while watching the season, but didn't have the right words to describe. I agree that Nancy seemed to be super self-aware and was able to pick up on subtleties, but had a huge blind spot when it came to Bartise... I'm glad that they didn't go through with getting married. I would love to hear your thoughts on SK and Raven! Their relationship was quite a bit different from the others and I love that they got back together again after the show ended!
@Seyibabs123
@Seyibabs123 Жыл бұрын
They’re broken up now. He cheated.
@anastasiiabobeshko
@anastasiiabobeshko Жыл бұрын
Well, being emotionally mature and self-aware are not fool-proof from falling in love with a dumb-ass and turning blind to his faults 😂
@datingdiaries1681
@datingdiaries1681 Жыл бұрын
" Don't let a man tell you twice he doesn't want you "
@christen_
@christen_ Жыл бұрын
I realllllly appreciate these videos! I love seeing a therapists point of view for shows like these! When it comes to dating/"reality" shows, it seems to be a common trend to react from either common or shared traumas (trauma bond) or someone's conditioning. Regardless, it's also nice to be able to give a name to a pattern of behavior (i.e. Fragile Ego, Enmeshed families, etc). All in all, I love these and can't wait to watch the remaining LiB videos!
@lilylomcari1750
@lilylomcari1750 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy your breakdowns instead of watching you react to it in real time. This way you give us the full perspective instead of reacting too early to a situation and coming up with stuff on the spot that could otherwise be wrong, especially since many of us (I would assume) have already watched the episodes and know what happens next. I’ve seen other reactors do this and I’m just like omg keep watching before forming an opinion/diagnosis lol. Please keep these types of long form videos coming!! ❤
@c.k.Visser
@c.k.Visser Жыл бұрын
I’ve just gone through and watched all your videos about season 3 and they are fantastic! I think you present a really generous perspective to both parties involved in each video and I can see how you must be a wonderful therapist 🥰
@megl6585
@megl6585 Жыл бұрын
I love these breakdowns you do, they are so insightful and interesting and I always learn something new I didn't see before. Human behaviour and relationships are endlessly fascinating. Thank you so much!
@lolgrigio
@lolgrigio Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual! I've been on the LiB subreddit since 2020 and sadly it's just grown into this cesspool of back and forth aggressive takes, but have watched a few of yours and it's like a breath of fresh air. I feel like you're articulate and balanced in your commentary and actually give people something to take away and learn about themselves and their relationships. Awesome work, I can't wait to check out your earlier videos surrounding therapy and counselling x
@whoscloe222
@whoscloe222 Жыл бұрын
Cannot wait !! i love your videos so much 💕
@lhart9492
@lhart9492 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis! Please make the next about Raven and SK.
@rosellavaughn5394
@rosellavaughn5394 Жыл бұрын
I don't even watch love is blind but the way you Analyse the relationships just encapsulates so many nuggets of information and wisdom about relationships in general that it just helps to understand certain concepts, words, dynamics, sometimes deepening the understanding because it's like a real life (or at least as real as portrayed and edited) Examples. It adds a specificity and humanity to people and behavioral posters etc. Anyway. Truly enjoy. Wanted to express by gratitude and compliments for your work! Whatever you decide to Talk about, apparently it doesn't even matter, I'll probably be here watching. 🥰
@Paula-cj2gj
@Paula-cj2gj Жыл бұрын
The way Bartise when on and on and on about Raven to Nancy was horrible! And for Nancy to say that she was grateful that he was honest, I mean…..there is a very clear difference between honesty and just blank disrespect. So glad those two didn’t end up together!
@chelster9627
@chelster9627 Жыл бұрын
I so appreciate your videos! Thank you for all you do and for sharing this information in a way that is accessible!
@Renduhh
@Renduhh Жыл бұрын
I just stumbled upon your channel today and was like “aww I hope she does Nancy and Bartiste soon”! Really loving your content 🥰
@93morganmarie
@93morganmarie Жыл бұрын
Stephanie! You're great at what you do. Love these videos. Keep up the great work. 😊
@cookiesreeses
@cookiesreeses Жыл бұрын
woah that was spot on (even tho it's a reality show) ! I've always found the money on the floor situation being weird in a first place, as a way of breaking up, as well as the abortion scene with his family being involved. I really enjoy your videos, because your observations are highlighting behaviors/patterns that we can notice in real life situation, and it does make us question a lot of the candidates' demeanor on the show. I just hope you would do an overall review of s1 as well! thank you for your work!
@charmedbymeghan
@charmedbymeghan Жыл бұрын
I love the way you view everything. It is all very thoughtful and I can tell it is backed with education. ♡
@AS-zz2ke
@AS-zz2ke Жыл бұрын
Just want to say, I really appreciate your videos because you often have insights I did not think of! It's good to think of these shows from different povs and these videos really help me with that. I also think the people saying that you are being one sided don't really understand where you are coming from. In my eyes, you have been more than fair to everyone in this show, often trying to find explanations and reasons for why a person would act a certain way. If your reviews seem one sided, it is simply because one person in a relationship acted much more questionable than the other and there are obviously more things to say about that.
@brianacolegrove2272
@brianacolegrove2272 Жыл бұрын
Been WAITING for this one 🙌
@jerrycurl637
@jerrycurl637 Жыл бұрын
Nancy is such a sweet, soft spoken lady. She's wifey material for sure. I feel bad how Bartise treated her. I wish she could see how great she is and I hope she finds the man of her dreams who will treat her well cuz she deserves it.
@briannacontreras1877
@briannacontreras1877 Жыл бұрын
I agree hopefully after all this publicity there will be a man that loves her for who she is
@nevswain478
@nevswain478 Жыл бұрын
32, old, still has ex in her life, money making go getter who works all the time.. deffo wifey material lol...
@jerrycurl637
@jerrycurl637 Жыл бұрын
@@nevswain478 old?! hahaha...yea, if you're a fucken child. Grow up. Nothing wrong with working and being an independent woman. I know a lot of men are intimidated by that. Oh well
@nevswain478
@nevswain478 Жыл бұрын
@@jerrycurl637 feminist spotted.. No man is intmidated by a ''independent woman''. We are just turned off by you. You're basically a woman trying to act like a man. Imagine a man acting like a woman on a date, how turned off you would be. e.g he's acting gay... Nah. pass us with that bs.. there is a reason why you lot make up the majority of anti depressant users xD... Keep chugging that ''single independent, don't need no man bs''.. clearly worked out for nancy and zanab xD.. lmfao..
@jerrycurl637
@jerrycurl637 Жыл бұрын
@@nevswain478 I'm sorry that a woman who makes more money than you makes you feel like less of a man. Maybe get another job? ROTF....i have yet to meet a man that's "turned off" by me honey. I get more ass than a toilet seat and certainly more than you. Is that why you're mad??? Let's get to the root of the problem here.
@bstand4bandz
@bstand4bandz Жыл бұрын
GIRL do the whole cast! I love these videos
@redtulips23
@redtulips23 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your perspectives on these videos. Please make videos on the remaining season 3 couples
@HeathieTheBest
@HeathieTheBest Жыл бұрын
I loved these breakdowns of the couples. Each one is so spot on! Please do SK and Raven!
@cutierenesmeegirl
@cutierenesmeegirl Жыл бұрын
Love love LOVE these types of videos! And your absolutely right about people wanting to understand themselves more by watching this kind of stuff, thats what I'm doing. I wouldnt mind if you did a video for every show like this
@sweetsnejinka9411
@sweetsnejinka9411 Жыл бұрын
Same, this is great.
@amyduir2726
@amyduir2726 Жыл бұрын
I’m an MFT trainee and I have been loving your videos!! You break down therapeutic concepts in such a clear way. It inspires me to want to be like that with my clients! Your analysis is spot on to me & I just love your style. So happy I stumbled upon your work!
@jasminelindsey
@jasminelindsey Жыл бұрын
Your hair looks so beautiful 😍 I’m loving these breakdown vids!
@StephAnya
@StephAnya Жыл бұрын
Aw thank you!! ♥️
@dw_carvings
@dw_carvings 3 ай бұрын
So happy I discovered your channel. Thank you for putting out your professional insights!
@Lulygarcia204
@Lulygarcia204 Жыл бұрын
I love these videos! ❤ I hope you make videos on the rest of the couples👏🏽👏🏽
@TheWhiteCloud2000
@TheWhiteCloud2000 Жыл бұрын
I think he brought up that topic in front of his family as sort of a sabotage of the relationship which he immediately began doing after seeing Raven.
@KJ-jd5ko
@KJ-jd5ko Жыл бұрын
I wish they could watch this video! Nancy for sure was going off on Cole! She hardly said anything to Bartiste!
@mistywindy
@mistywindy Жыл бұрын
She was immature and one sided it was a he said she said moment and it was sad to see that she didn't care about the truth or reality but rumors and lies. She was very disrespectful and did not act like a mature adult would. She was easy on Bartiste and outted Cole because she depended on her friend's perspective.
@sjean2658
@sjean2658 Жыл бұрын
Steph, you are doing a great job in analysing these relationships and exposing behaviour that we can all learn from. Keep it up 👏
@aBieBi1
@aBieBi1 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video! I never understood what Nancy saw in Bartise...It sucks that he dragged all the way to the alter to say "no", but I'm glad he did because she deserves SO MUCH BETTER! I hope you do videos on all the couples, it so interesting to get a therapists perspective on this show.
@Stormy575
@Stormy575 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if these 'fragile egos' watch these therapist analyses of them. That must hurt 😄 Steph, I appreciate you doing these breakdowns. You obviously can't know the whole story, but it's helpful to see how these traits and behaviors would be viewed clinically, and how they might apply to us or people in our lives. Thank you!
@kingash6683
@kingash6683 Жыл бұрын
I love your feedback! As an upcoming therapist as well in her masters program I had a lot of similarities in my observations as I watched this couple. Glad to see we had some of the same thoughts.
@toabrwngrrl
@toabrwngrrl Жыл бұрын
I just subscribed here and followed on socials. I could listen to you speak all day - so much insight and clarity in your expertise. Love it!
@anorman2014
@anorman2014 Жыл бұрын
Wow Stephanie!! It’s so nice to see your face again! I had no idea you were on social media. I have been looking for you since our last session!
@anyahm1179
@anyahm1179 Жыл бұрын
I love watching these Love Is Blind breakdowns! That displacement explanation makes so much sense now, even if she allegedly confronted him on the reunion and it didn't air. The producers probably cut it because it didn't have that same heat that she served Cole. I really wish you'd watch Love Is Blind: Japan and do breakdowns. The cast is much more mature and the culture difference is honestly amazing, but it also has some poorly matched people trying to make it to the altar that cause drama.
@DangerousKaos
@DangerousKaos Жыл бұрын
This is the one I was waiting for! 🙌🏽
@paug2380
@paug2380 Жыл бұрын
pls do more of these, and tell me which show are we watching next because i LOVE your reviews
@ericakane6388
@ericakane6388 Жыл бұрын
You have Beautiful Hair❤ I love what you’re doing sis, keep the creative ideas coming
@BluePotatoHead
@BluePotatoHead Жыл бұрын
First of all hi! So glad I discovered your channel. Sending you such a positive energy❤
@magorzatango6378
@magorzatango6378 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your content, it is a joy to listen to you!
@kaylan5274
@kaylan5274 Жыл бұрын
Your hair looks so good Steph ♥️♥️♥️😍😍
@rosebud0091
@rosebud0091 Жыл бұрын
I love your analysis of this cast!!!
@sproutygamerreads7947
@sproutygamerreads7947 Жыл бұрын
Your hair looks so beautiful in this video! I adore it!
@rabbitreacts5982
@rabbitreacts5982 Жыл бұрын
Would you say he is a narcissist? I definitely got those vibes from him! Especially when he smiled after telling her no at the alter...he got off on breaking her confidence levels down..I dated one for years and got ptsd watching him 🤣 ..also Andrew was a troll but I think he liked Nancy honestly..he was trolling the whole experience and who wouldn't? I feel like the matches have been failures except for Lauren and Cameron 🤷🏾‍♀️.. I feel he needs someone with a wild and chill personality that will call him on his bullshit persona and he would drop the act🤔. And Nancy may need therapy because for her to go after Cole and her family and not batista really frustrated the hell out of me!!!
@CrispyFriedPickles
@CrispyFriedPickles 9 ай бұрын
I dated 3 narcissists back to back before I finally went to therapy to sort out what was going on and Bartise is 1000% a narcissist. It was actually triggering watching the way he treated Nancy 😭
@nov3mberlove
@nov3mberlove Жыл бұрын
I need you in my life 🫶🫶 and I just found you today!!! Girllll.... I'm gonna watch everything you post!!! It wasn't even about me... I was sitting here evaluating myself as a person more then Bartise and Nancy lol.. Keep it coming girl... Yes, please go over each of couple.. I watched all the seasons❤
@thateclecticgal
@thateclecticgal Жыл бұрын
Great vid! Love your hair 😍
@ntotheshin3732
@ntotheshin3732 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your very interesting insight! I learn so much from you.
@hannahmendez5367
@hannahmendez5367 Жыл бұрын
This is my third video on this series and I'm officially hooked 😅 so interesting! Also, your hair is so beautiful!!! 😍
@tellis3811
@tellis3811 Жыл бұрын
The reunion needs to have a live audience who can ask each contestant questions. Nick and Vanessa can remain soft and let us address the tough situations.
@jess_is
@jess_is Жыл бұрын
Baptiste is the type of guy to be mean to a woman just because he isn't attracted to her.
@bryanna_95
@bryanna_95 Жыл бұрын
Happy I caught the premiere ❤
@Emma-gf1bc
@Emma-gf1bc Жыл бұрын
I LOVE these videos!! So great and learning so much! If you ever watch love is blind Japan, please make a video! 😮
@laurafreeman3335
@laurafreeman3335 Жыл бұрын
I like your critiques on these videos I have not seen these this season and I really don't care to cuz I just think it's a lot of drama and not real but I think there is something to be learned from how you break these shows down and I think that part of it I really do enjoy so I I do enjoy when you talk about at that the different relational types and Dynamics
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