As a support main, I just kinda like to help my team mates out more. It feels great to get a clutch heal/shield/body block and save your adc or mid lane. And playing support, as long as your team isn't completely oblivious, controlling objectives becomes easy. I think overall, supporting itself isn't "hard" (aside from when you're dealing with toxic entitled adcs). But you can drastically tell the difference between someone who gets autofilled, and someone who mains support. Supports, though lacking in damage, win the game in other ways.

I had a grandmaster coach me the way you did , but he was right behind me at a gaming cafe and I was with a friend , we were golds and just because of the confidence he gave us and helping with some macro we were SMURFING in high play, he was screaming in my ear to do stuff but it’s because I was not sure if I should or shouldn’t. This coaching works man and I felt good the next day playing confident and winning 15 in a row lol. Love this hard love coaching, after he said we have really good everything just not enough confidence and lacking macro late game

been loving these support sessions, its nice listening to a smarter mind talk about its balance

I love the "Why do you play support" style question, I wish I was asked this because I have a zero hesitation answer. When all the cogs on the team are working as they should be, your supports are the ones that have the game changer team fighting tools. It is so satisfying to make or break entire fights with something like a Thresh hook, Nami wave, Leona ultimate, ect. You are often the most under-valued person on the team sure, but it is one of the most rewarding positions when you play up to your potential. I've played for a long time, and as more people were slowly given more wards over time, I think it has largely been forgotten how important not only where your wards are placed - but when and how. Placing that "victory ward" near blue buff/gromp for example after you win a trade bottom, or making sure you have a good idea when their jungle is rotating your way... is just often overlooked because it's pieces of information that everyone obtains - but from one persons effort. It's often not your job to carry, but to make sure everyone else can succeed in their tasks. I never intended on specifically playing support, but I always go back to it. I started there by just always playing fill (back before you were always filled jungle..) I've been training other roles all year, not really getting that great at any of them. If you told me I had to pick one and stay with it, id probably still go back to it. Roaming is probably the biggest lesson I have learned as a support by playing other roles, because now I understand how big it can be for your jungle to help at scuttle or your mid to burn their flash.

I've noticed a lot of people don't really seem to care about where they place their wards within bushes. Like the tri brush by blue behind tower. People never ward the tip so you can see around the corner to the blast plant. Like they don't understand how the vision ring works.

I've been hardstuck silver for 5 years. I always thought my macro was good and my micro was bad. I'm finding now it is just the opposite... I'm OK at knowing my champion's limits and picking fights, but I suck at everything else. I feel like an AFK player. I'm considering the coaching for 1 or 2 sessions... your videos are absolutely blowing my mind. All other "How to climb" type videos I watched are just video essays talking about the basics of the game. You actually illuminate key important differences between players that climb and players that go 200W and 210L on the season in silver (not that far from my season 9 total, I think).

When he asked why do you like support I was expecting " I love to engage" , "I like to peel" , "I want to set up fights and zone with my top laner" Im gonna watch the rest of the VOD now, but I see where this is going.

He also doesn't use his E nearly enough at the beginning of teamfights, it's ms and camo for your whole team, a really powerful tool to get your frontline in place.

Support is hands down to me the most fun role you can play. Not having to farm is amazing, farming is so boring.

i dont think he wanted to work hard and that is why he wanted to be support, but he didnt know that being a support is a lot of work as well, there is no role where you dont have to do things

Watchihng THIS particular video every single time before I play even a single ranked game the respective day. It opens my eyes in a lot of ways. One thing it made me figure out for both League and real life was that I was asking myself the wrong questions. Thank you for this vid, Neace!

I think I've watched this video about 4 times since I discovered it this morning. This is for sure the closest thing to getting direct coaching myself, all the same bad habits, etc. Thank you for sharing this one! I'm on a 10-year comeback as an elder millennial and I'm so thankful for all the detailed macro

This is insanely helpful. Alot of concepts that I don’t usually verbalize explained here.

Been spam watching your coaching videos lately. They’ve really been helping me out. Visualizing the cross from opponents to help with my movement, remembering to walk back when being walked up on when playing ranged champs, taking a second to assess the map after I get a kill to dictate what I do next. I swear, even though you’ve never coached me, some of the thing ms you’ve said live rent free in my head when I’m playing now

Ya I tried my best and watching it I see I made a lot of mistakes, not my best game but this how we learn.

I love the way you coach. In League... I've always been hardstuck bronze... ya I thought I was better, but there is enough data on our interwebs to proove I never did what was in my best interest to climb. In other games where I did do the things it takes to be top percentile. I was scared to coach others. They would think I'm insane. And you kinda have to be to reach that level. There is a massive gap between casual and competative. You sir have mastered all of the in between and are fantastic at sharing.

This man would be a good coach in basically anything he'd choose to master. I see a lot in you that I saw in my basketball coaches, good stuff.

I like how this video got right into it and didn't leave us on a hook during the intro, so that I don't have to look through 44 minutes of video to find that part

The T example for dodging skill shots was a very helpful visual thanks for showing that

Got back into the game after being away since 2013 and I spent two weeks getting back into it and watching countless videos. I know Neace from back then as the guy who was about to quit making content lol. But I’ve learned more useful info in 3-4 hours of watching these coaching vids than I have in weeks of playing again and watching other shit.

trust that you win. when i play lol once a year, my friend always tells me exactly how to play and its so relaxing having him make the calls and just follow trough withit.

Damn, if you look him up, he demoted to Bronze 2. Could've just afk'd the last couple weeks of the season and would've been a higher rank.

Perhaps he should try a melee support? Because running toward the fight makes more sense then

Instead of A+Left-Click you can use Shift+Right-Click, this way you always use right click and don't get confused in mouse buttons. Just use plain Right-Click to move away and then Shift+Right-Click to auto the closest enemy target.

Neace teaching people how to dodge. Vel'Koz: Allow me to introduce myself

You're the reason why i still keep playing this game Neace. Keep it up!

I'm so glad this made it to YT bc i was working during this. this was made for me. I play senna for the same reason but had a horrible WR, i changed my approach with her and have been seeing better results. I gotta keep at it. I main adc / supp but prefer adc so senna seems made for me

23:08 Neace picking up and cradling his cat, makes him not so scary to me 🥺

so the hard dodge works in 99% of the cases, the only exception are lux ´s E and velkoz´s Q, thos i dodge in the champion direction and in diagonal(and always work strange enough)

Pinging is highly underrated, at least for me it used to be. It's so easy to convey information and decide on a game plan just through a few pings, I'd usually not notice that but once I mute all pings I feel so lost in the game like I have no idea what my team is up to and have to constantly watch over every objective on the map and every champion and what's going on. I think it'd most important when you're deciding if you're gonna take a fight or not, whether it is during a gank or a jungle skirmish. Would be nice to have voice chat for deeper communication like saying if enemy top moves up here it means he has a vision on you, or try to gank me in one minute the wave is bouncing back, or just simple help me shove the lane I really need to go b

30:37 Lmao the guy is sweating hoping he doesn't lace into him for not getting the last hits meanwhile he's sitting there making his cat's face jiggle

He holds on to abilities so long it's painful. 39:30 Vayne's getting hit, literally never Q's this entire fight

Been a support/healer type main in every game I've ever played. Love the playstyles and assisting teammates; I've never been remotely passionate about getting kills or being on the top damage board. Being the "top heals" in WoW PvP with like 9mil healing or whatever the hell against the other team's healer's 5mil is incredibly appealing to me. I love totally denying the enemy's chance to kill my teammates and really watching them shine when suddenly I give them a massive CD buff that enhances their damage by a shit ton and they just go ham. Sona denying kills and chasing down teams with all her teammates is so badass. A massive 5man stun for Aphelios to use his Infernum R? Fuck yeah, bring on those fireworks! I was drawn to the support role when I first went into League. My first purchase was Yuumi.

Thanks for this first 15 mins of the vid Neace. I gave up playing for the same reasons he plays support, but I can still appreciate the content, because this is something that apparently everybody knows for some reason..I just never did, never paid attention to stuff like that. I will not be a peeping Teemo for vids like this. Peace Neace

Early ignite is my favorite move as a support. Calling it early ignite is kind of a misnomer though, props to neace for this explanation. You don’t save ignite for low hp champions early game, that ignite damage is straight up OP

9:17 WOW I've been playing for 7 years and I never knew this

29:05 "I'm all for limit testing but there's some limits that don't need to be tested" ima hang that on my wall

support main, reason i play is the utility/cc you are capable of. Nothing feels better then a deep thresh hook on someone who thinks they got away

25:51 They missed the tower plate gold by less than a second due to the hesitation to help push. I wept for a moment, lol

Didn't know the cursor thing for confirming wards in brush. Cool stuff!

I just discovered your channels. I am loving your content. I am now learning new things about the game that I have never known before. and the question "Why do you want to play support?" made me stop and think. The current answer is my comfort picks are usually played in support (Morgana, Leona and Zyra), but I see there is more to support than that. I will need to go back and look at some of your older content to see what else I can learn

I play quite a bit of Senna, boots of swiftness are the correct boots of choice because her only escape is her E which is merely a movement speed buff. She needs the increased movement speed to position herself correctly and get where she needs to go. Jhin another champ with only a small movement speed increase in his kit also needs boots of swiftness.

With his game style he should play a tank as a support.

I don't play league of legends anymore but the format in which these videos are laid out is addicting.

I just started playing league maybe a week or so and it is soooooo fucking hard to learn these videos are so helpful. As someone who’s only ever played valorant and overwatch on pc, league is like nothing I’ve ever played and there’s so much shit to learn

Mr neace you can press G also for pings

omg when he picked up his cat into his arms

I just started playing support. I got tired of 0/12 Sonas running around face checking bushes and dying. I feel like I have a little more impact as support than I did in other lanes since another person in my lane depends on me to pull my weight. Also, support is just fun. I love the champ pool.

This guy really needs to get faster at pressing his keys, kinda worried this is the level at silver. Guy literally full mana all the time not healing his teammates, I thought he said he like to be a healer.

Damn, he holds his cat like I hold my cat.

Watching people place wards in game pains me. A lot of the time a mid will through a ward in the river brush just over the wall, but they place it so close to the wall that it doesn't even see the whole width of the river

Neace reminds me of lord voldemort still in tom riddle phase. Ruthless. Talented. To the point. Evvvvvvile. haha

Also when he's losing cs to tower at mid when solo he can w stun the wave before it crashes tower to farm it without the tower hitting it, his wave was there to hold it off the tower.

30:10 watching this guy try to CS under tower was painful, NO WONDER he only plays support. Seems like a decent student gl to this dude

"I feel like it's one of the things i've been good at, you know, healing" MF barely ever heals with his Q. At 25 minutes, he could have saved Zed if he healed him on cooldown. He waited for like 20 seconds, next to him while he was low life, doing nothing

Think support requires the most discipline. USUALLY you’re not the carry and you have to set up your team to do it for you. Getting / Denying vision, Peeling, Engaging, etc. Good supports almost always indirectly responsible for setting up the win

It picks at me how long it takes him to use senna W. He could have been starting team fights or helping get picks by landing AOE roots over walls but he always saved it until he was about to die… and then died anyway.

I started as a top laner... had some time as a jungler, had terrible internet and got routed to support 90% of the time before the roles system came in, learnt the ward game... I'm now a support main because I like supporting the carry no matter what lane they come from, I tend to match ADC damage or i'm first or second damage in the team, but silver for life Support is extremely difficult to climb with as you are reasonably reliant on the ADC to take your queues and know how to manage the lane particularly in low ELO

Just started playing league a few months ago and this vid is helping me see what I do wrong! Great vid

The fight at 24:30 he held his W the entire time. Then I kept waiting for neace to yell "w, W!, W!" but he never did lol.

My mechanics were plat 1, but my decision making was silver Little help from my diamond and challenger friends with decision making and I shot right up to where I needed to be

9:30 holy shit so thats how polypuff does his warding trick at the dragon pit

This guy plays Senna with the wrong mindset hearing his reasons for playing support. I'm a Senna one trick, and the reason I chose her and chose support for this season wasn't to reduce my responsibilities; it was so I could do MORE. The way I see Senna was that she is 2 roles woven into one package. When it's time to collect data on the map, you use your E, pop your sweeper lense and drop/clear vision. And then when the team fights start, you post up behind your initiators and do Senna things with your Q and W. When the fights starts, you can contribute no matter where you are with her ultimate... I didn't pick Senna support to do less than I would do on my OG role(adc). I picked Senna support so I could do BOTH jobs in game. If you don't pick a champion or role because you believe you can solo win on them, then you shouldn't be playing that champ or role PERIOD.

watching this i see how i have an ego about my champ and now i can work on it thank you

when mean neace comes out, you know the good tips are coming. seriously i just want neace to scream at me, i swear it just fucking works

Why does this guy sound like half of the guys in these coachings?

Why did he not Q through his team mates or turrets ?? extend range + a little heal cant hurt. Love this channel every video I pick up tons. At least its not a Coach who will sweet talk you and says thank you for the money, I love the direct and honest way of communication. A question for anyone here on the channel. Is there a good way to get your brain trained for attack move. I do it at the start of the game but when things get more frantic in mid to late game my brain defaults back to all bad habits. (not only using attack move).

31:43 ''cause u are squishy, you cant walk up'' Procceds to bonk yorick in the head with the gun.

So as a Ornn support I learned from this in terms of having adv but not taking it due to doubts as well as getting my movements and camera control better

When facing pyke walk up to him if charges his q so you can go to his side cause its hard to hit the q when you are near him

omg the choncc!!! when you picked that cat up. so cute

Any support should do 2 things when choosing their champs. Play Liona, or Nautalis because even if your ADC is having a really bad game, you can still CC the living shit out of the enemy team. Or just play a mage support and become the carry yourself. You cannot trust ADC's below diamond to have the positioning required to play that role effectively in most games.

I thought this was gonna be one of those coaching a Smurf vids

Lol, i use the same principle for warding. If you can remember all the wards you dropped you're not warding enough

This is a really good video thanks! I learned a lot!

Boots of swiftness are good boots on senna because her auto attack animation takes a long time. So you sacrifice movement every time you shoot. And vs a blitzcrank, you really want to be quick on your toes not to get hooked.

Where do i sign up for a sesh, and what's it gonna cost me? Only want Neace as a coach though. I thoroughly enjoy the honesty, only way to get better.

In his defense, at 4:00+ during the breakdown, that Vayne screwed up. She is out of position not anticipating the engage, and wastes her tumble early as a result instead of saving it in case Varus Qs as she needs to get closer, but then she hits the minion behind her instead of Swain because she was probably using mouse button 1 attack move click. She then takes a poke from Varus who at this point does no damage. Then she doesn't condemn Swain into the wall or aa him either or Varus, she hesitates instead just standing there and eats that Varus Auto. It was still a bad engage by Senna being low health and engaging on Swain while he was full, while Vayne was out of position, and while Varus was right there able to poke Vayne if she approached or Senna, and while she was out of position but that Vayne could have at least hit the Swain and condemned him into the wall or either knocked back Varus and turned on Swain, or condemned Varus into the wall (which would have been better) so he wouldn't have free hits on Senna and kill her. That Vayne should have killed at least one of them or disengaged the Senna. Should could have done both. Varus was going after Senna so she had free hits on him as Swain already disengaged. She didn't condemn him or hit him at all after the heal she instead went after Swain. It was still an overall clusterfuck but the Vayne imho deserves more blame than the support at least once the engage begins. She was less confident then the supp. What amazes me watching some of these videos is that in silver, or gold or even plat I see people like this Vayne being completely braindead. Yet when I used to play some games in bronze or Silver 4 I would get non stop stomped by some super mechanical ADCs that play like they should be on some LCS team, never missing a single minion, knowing their positioning perfectly, punishing me for every single minion I try to get, and of course they would have some Pyke with them that would go 8-0 in 8 minutes murdering everyone as the roamed. Like in my games no one ever played as shitty as what I see in these lower elo up to plat, videos or as braindead as this Vayne unless it's like Iron 4.

Why not Berserkers Greaves on Senna? Everything that Neace said, plus Senna doesn't receive the full value of bonus attack speed, since her attack speed ratio is only 40% of what the bonus attack speed is by default. Whereas Jinx for instance receives 100% of the bonus attack speed she gains.

Wait last time i saw your videos (last year kinda) you were not willing to do it with supports right? Really happy to see you do coach the supp role also!

this tipp is not only good for league ,,why are we not confident that we win,, that is a tipp everyone in everygame should know

His problem is his ability to decision make. There are people out there that take longer to learn the game just like there are people that take forever to learn how to do something at a job. It's a real thing that unfortunately you cant fix for games and or irl because human error and thought processing is a big factor.

if i support i orchestrate their movements to the right path if they dont know what they are doing altho there is alot of problems if i make a mistake or die in the process

He fell to Bronze 2 but he's sporting a 71% winrate on Soraka. He doesn't want to climb that badly, he just wants to chill and play. Seems like wasted money on the coaching.

I started to support because nobody ever wanted to go support, so we got games like Trynda support, Zed or Yasuo support and (of course) we would lose cuz bot lane would feed like crazy and the (auto filled support) would DC three minutes in.

So I have a bad habit of commenting as I watch but at 5:41 he definitely could have gotten that soul while still walking up as he's getting his level 2

"The nice and squishy support", oh man do we all love those!

Real talk, hearing that approach is cool.

Im learning to a left clic myself, it's more difficult because we're wired to left clic enemies, even dou the a-lc is much better

Why he had in the inventory whole match _(except once when Neace told him to buy 2)_ only one Control Ward instead of two?

as soon as the cat came into screen I fast clicked that like button! Neace be playing gitar on that cat xD

This is so cute to watch in a way. I hope this really helps him. I was silver support for many years, then realized some of the stuff he coaches and have been chilling (lazy) in diamond.

you know what would be so helpful: if you could see a ring around your champion indicating range and also the same on the enemies. I wonder if there’s a way to make a program that takes recorded games as inputs and can output vod review tools like that one. I think another useful visualization feature could be a heat map representing gold (minions/camps/bounties)…. idk random thought - might be stupid

Im wondering about the title. He does play like a low silver support. So I just don't understand the title.

Main Leona here... I love these coaching lessons, cause it helps me see what I'm doing wrong on my mechanics. I know now I need to ping more. I don't ping nearly enough what I should be pinging. Brush control, Pink warding, Sweeping, Assisting Objectives, Pot usage, Pinging, No-jerk movement... Lots of things to improve in my game to get out of ELO hell xD

Dude was in the army and now solo Q's as support. The man is a masochist.

24:15 i don't understand why neace said it was a side to side shit when what i saw is someone movong backwards when blitz went on him (and neace say afterwards he should have moved backwards) , can someone explain pls ? I genuinely would like to understand

Best coach ever ! 👍

I feel the military conditioning fucked the homie in this in terms of adapting while being coached. For those that get conditioned, it's hard to act without orders. He'll prob play better after the coaching.

I had a coach screaming in my ear many times, now im Plat 1 from bronze 2