There’s a man’s gravesite in the middle of a Jacksonville sidewalk

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20 күн бұрын

A gravesite is in an unusual spot in the middle of a sidewalk in a Jacksonville neighborhood just feet away from children playing in the park.

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@StreetEqualizer
@StreetEqualizer 17 күн бұрын
You act like this just popped up overnight
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN 17 күн бұрын
Typical ignorance about such
@SBPepperminion
@SBPepperminion 2 күн бұрын
Well. DID IT?
@StreetEqualizer
@StreetEqualizer Күн бұрын
@@SBPepperminion yes. In fact one just popped up in my driveway. Something is definitely going on.
@politicsuncensored5617
@politicsuncensored5617 18 күн бұрын
Leave the grave where it is. The man has been at rest for over 100 years. Shalom
@ladydee78
@ladydee78 14 күн бұрын
This is VERY common. They have disrespected a plethora of black cemeteries by building on top of the graves. No respect at all.
@richardgibson2158
@richardgibson2158 17 күн бұрын
"His name is Thomas Wilson.." His name is Thomas WILLIAMS.
@angelalake200
@angelalake200 17 күн бұрын
she doesn't bother to read & she's a reporter?
@richardgibson2158
@richardgibson2158 17 күн бұрын
@@angelalake200 Not only that. Those are the remains of a person who, due to his sweat and toil, defined the city. Made what she lives in what it is today and she just casually covers his remains. She probably wouldn't care about him if it wasn't for the fact she would get to be on TV.
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN 17 күн бұрын
TYPICAL REPORTER just like the printed reports that DOESN'T get proof read, just this week I received a NYT article with errors.
@karensback
@karensback 17 күн бұрын
She's an aa hire and apparently you're cut from the same cloth you meant WAS and Thompson **.
@richardgibson2158
@richardgibson2158 17 күн бұрын
@@karensback People usually refer to remains in the present tense. Just saying.
@jmorrison44601
@jmorrison44601 17 күн бұрын
You mean your community just stumbled upon this ? It has been there since 1908 😂
@fatonyalmitchell3281
@fatonyalmitchell3281 13 күн бұрын
But on City 🏙️ property and being neglected 😢
@Califresh21
@Califresh21 18 күн бұрын
She said they removed the bodies from the cemetery I think that’s a lie
@user-zw7rq8ys9h
@user-zw7rq8ys9h 13 күн бұрын
They said they move the bodies in Poltergeist also and that was a lie
@Califresh21
@Califresh21 13 күн бұрын
@@user-zw7rq8ys9h right on
@user-mr2eo9we3n
@user-mr2eo9we3n 18 күн бұрын
Williams not Wilson
@skywalker844
@skywalker844 18 күн бұрын
The boss
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN 17 күн бұрын
These reporters don't proof read anything, just saw a similar situation in a NYT or WSJ article this week
@user-sy1ym1mc9p
@user-sy1ym1mc9p 15 күн бұрын
How horrible is that to build a playground and a park over a cemetery so disrespectful
@fatonyalmitchell3281
@fatonyalmitchell3281 13 күн бұрын
City 🏙️ didn't even maintain due to area and race 😢
@ourfamilysvarietyshow
@ourfamilysvarietyshow 15 күн бұрын
I don't believe that ANY cemetery should be built on or the bodies be removed or disturbed for any reason. If this was your mom would you want this for her! So disrespectful
@manuellubian5709
@manuellubian5709 11 күн бұрын
I agree with you 100% And your argument would hold water if we were talking about somebody that was white. Let's be for real. However when it has to do with POC it's a completely different story. All of a sudden everybody has short-term memory, no memory at all, unable to think of any ideas, no ability to brainstorm ideas. Come on we all know the drill.
@laurie7689
@laurie7689 6 күн бұрын
During construction of many dams across the USA, cemeteries had to be moved or they were going to be flooded over. I have ancestors whose graves were moved due to the building of one such dam. There is now a lake over the place where the cemetery once existed. Even the town that they once lived in is gone. The living have more rights to the land and more need of it than the dead do. This is going to keep happening, too, as the World population increases. Many nations don't bury their dead, but cremate them, instead, as a space-saving method. Eventually, the USA will also get to that point. We're not there yet, but as we decide that the land is more valuable to the living, it WILL get there.
@fanenthusiast3802
@fanenthusiast3802 16 күн бұрын
You mean there's a sidewalk over a gravesite.
@user-iq3th6ff6q
@user-iq3th6ff6q 16 күн бұрын
They did not move the bodies, that cost money. They just paved over them.
@Edmond951
@Edmond951 12 күн бұрын
Like 'Poltergeist' right?
@brandistraveladventures2891
@brandistraveladventures2891 8 сағат бұрын
This happened in San Diego. It's called pioneer Park. There is another one on old Town
@janetprice85
@janetprice85 18 күн бұрын
Paving over cemetaries, plowing over cemetaries is inexcusable. Also digging up people to " study" them is why I want to be cremated. I read where they are even digging up ones from the 1800's. My great great grandparents in Missouri were plowed over by a farmer and he knew it was an old family graveyard.
@teresaesquivel2040
@teresaesquivel2040 17 күн бұрын
Death is a joke to our law enforcement
@laurie7689
@laurie7689 6 күн бұрын
The farms where some of my ancestors were buried are long gone and so are their graves. The living have more need of the land than the dead do. After only a couple of generations, the dead tend to be forgotten anyhow.
@ClutchingPearlz
@ClutchingPearlz 17 күн бұрын
Why the heck should he be moved?? Leave this man to rest in peace. This has got to be one of the dumbest news stories.
@LexyTheEbikeQueen
@LexyTheEbikeQueen 17 күн бұрын
That Name Says Thompson William Not Wilson 🤦🏾‍♀️
@danor6812
@danor6812 4 күн бұрын
Shows how interested she was in the story. She couldn't even get the mans name right.
@thebrock12
@thebrock12 17 күн бұрын
I don’t understand what the big deal is. It’s not like he’s gonna wake up and reach out and start grabbing people. He’s dead just leave the man alone.
@queenofthebronx
@queenofthebronx 17 күн бұрын
🤣🤣
@fatonyalmitchell3281
@fatonyalmitchell3281 13 күн бұрын
Well if it was white 🤍 people it would have been maintained
@joycehill3492
@joycehill3492 18 күн бұрын
There knew it was cemetery and he should stay in grave and park should be closed.
@fatonyalmitchell3281
@fatonyalmitchell3281 13 күн бұрын
ALSO City own property and didn't even maintain due to area and race 😢
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN 17 күн бұрын
My 50+ years of researching graves & cemeteries has found that 99% of African American cemeteries have very few markers for their graves, and even most of them are concrete, IF further research was done on those remaining markers I'd bet they were the most affluent of the time, GLAD THEIR descendants cared enough about them to mark their graves !
@fatonyalmitchell3281
@fatonyalmitchell3281 13 күн бұрын
But city 🏙️ own property and didn't maintain due to area and race 😢
@justinzeid212
@justinzeid212 2 күн бұрын
Sometimes there is a reason that graves were left unmarked.
@rachelleklemunes5493
@rachelleklemunes5493 17 күн бұрын
I hate the media. Stop saying children are playing nearby as if they are afraid of a headstone. My goodness, if you're so concerned, move the damn playground and let that man rest.
@justinzeid212
@justinzeid212 2 күн бұрын
They would played in the cemetery in Victorian times.
@vincentbugalia3858
@vincentbugalia3858 14 күн бұрын
Thompson Williams is the name. Pay no attention to the reporter who cannot read.
@angelalake200
@angelalake200 17 күн бұрын
"williams" woman! get a real job & try reading & factual reporting.
@vlove888
@vlove888 16 күн бұрын
This is really not uncommon actually. A lot of abandoned cemeteries will be bought by private owners and without even removing the bodies because more than likely, there’s no remaining relatives to reach out to claim the remains so they’ll just pave over the bodies. I saw a story years ago about apartment complex in Florida that they built right over cemetery in the plot and bodies were still under the buildings that they built.
@finally97
@finally97 11 күн бұрын
Am I the only one who read the entire tombstone? This story is not half as interesting as what's ON the tombstone. I need the background story. Does anyone know anything?
@theNotoriousChickenAdventures
@theNotoriousChickenAdventures 16 күн бұрын
This grave site aint bothering nonody . Leave him alone
@fatonyalmitchell3281
@fatonyalmitchell3281 13 күн бұрын
Perhaps but why isn't it maintained if city 🏙️ own property is due to area and race ⁉️ they have that in the budget
@theNotoriousChickenAdventures
@theNotoriousChickenAdventures 4 күн бұрын
@@fatonyalmitchell3281 I agree.
@brandonwoods9930
@brandonwoods9930 17 күн бұрын
Jenese.. You know better. You and channel 4 skipped the REASON why the person died. The guy died in 1908 from racism. So yea, The Grave Marker SHOULD STAY.. even tho It kinda is in the same Issue as the Conferate Statues that got Removed.
@dadevi
@dadevi 17 күн бұрын
It's not the same issue. The man was a victim. Confederate statues are memorials with no dead bodies attached.
@fatonyalmitchell3281
@fatonyalmitchell3281 13 күн бұрын
My issue is City 🏙️ own property and didn't maintain it due to area and race 😢
@laurie7689
@laurie7689 6 күн бұрын
@@dadevi Some Confederate memorials list names because they couldn't find the bodies to bury. Many families of Confederate soldiers didn't have a grave to go to mourn their dead. I had ancestors that fought on both sides, some had graves, some didn't. We're guessing that they got dumped into mass graves somewhere, but will never know where. We actually liked having the memorials that listed their names because that was as good as they were ever going to get.
@pissypiancilamblamumba7573
@pissypiancilamblamumba7573 17 күн бұрын
Let the man rest
@gymeni
@gymeni 16 күн бұрын
This is more common than we think and it’s wrong to disrespect cemeteries like this. When on a tour of Bonaventure in Savannah, our Tour Guide pointed out that the road and sidewalks running alongside, “outside” of the cemetery boundaries, are full of unmarked graves.
@kurokaizen1889
@kurokaizen1889 15 күн бұрын
Leave the dude where he's resting.
@cuprunnethover2
@cuprunnethover2 16 күн бұрын
I canmot believe that had the audacity to build over a cemetery. I wouldn't want to play there! How cruel!!!
@candacejones8578
@candacejones8578 17 күн бұрын
That park is Hollow Ground and should of been left alone. It should of never been turn into the park . Doubt they moved the bodies .
@rridderbusch518
@rridderbusch518 16 күн бұрын
"hallowed ground," not Hollow Ground. And it's *should've,* which is short for "should have". I do agree with you, though.
@holleyb7861
@holleyb7861 5 күн бұрын
She didn't even say his name correctly. Thompson WILLIAMS not Wilson.
@Ih8africans
@Ih8africans 17 күн бұрын
Wilson 😂 ... WILLIAMS
@deborahbaker4770
@deborahbaker4770 17 күн бұрын
He doesn’t have any family to ask ⁉️
@fatonyalmitchell3281
@fatonyalmitchell3281 13 күн бұрын
Not One know the accurate HISTORY Eitherway city 🏙️ didn't maintain due to area and race which is the Real issue
@laurie7689
@laurie7689 6 күн бұрын
After only a couple of generations, most dead are forgotten, even by their family.
@freedomofspeech361
@freedomofspeech361 17 күн бұрын
Don't worry about it and move on. There's a reason why he's there so leave him there. Go and do an actual story that matters like searching for real criminals and not this nonsense.
@fatonyalmitchell3281
@fatonyalmitchell3281 13 күн бұрын
Incorrect ‼️ the city 🏙️ is a criminal for not maintaining the property due to area and race Soooo definitely important 😢
@sibhuskyguy
@sibhuskyguy 17 күн бұрын
Seeing that section of graves in such a state of disrepair and neglect and that grave in the middle of the sidewalk right next to the road like that is disheartening to say the least.. I wouldn't say move them... I'd say move the road and sidewalk from close to the grave, remove the brick and concrete that seemed to be put in place after the grave was and restore it to what it originally looked like. Give the man some respectful distance and space. That and researching and trying to restore what headstones can be replaced or repaired in the plot by the playground so people know who is buried there... Try to restore it to how that used to be and keep it up... It'd take a lot of time and money but to not do it, and you lose that history over time.. It'd be the most respectful course of action.
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN 17 күн бұрын
That grave very well may MARK the last grave on that border & they left it as is to PROTECT the remainder
@sibhuskyguy
@sibhuskyguy 17 күн бұрын
@@REVNUMANEWBERN local to me they excavated what was locally known as a "witches graveyard", a place where people were buried just outside the walls of a historic (old) cemetery.. they discovered a number of graves. any time someone says the cemetery ends at the walls of an old cemetery I simply don't believe that. burying people outside the walls or borders of a cemetery back in the day was fairly common.. if you did something to go against your religion or committed a horrible crime, outside the walls of the cemetery you went...
@ASMRDogsWalks
@ASMRDogsWalks 18 күн бұрын
Thats an insult
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN 17 күн бұрын
What is?
@lupegaither-sq9ib
@lupegaither-sq9ib 16 күн бұрын
Is this where they got the idea for Poltergeist!? Lol 😂 😮
@mattbosley3531
@mattbosley3531 15 күн бұрын
That reporter can't read very well, can she? It says Williams, not Wilson.
@reddplays2367
@reddplays2367 17 күн бұрын
Ok but do y’all see what’s written on it
@BEATMAN.
@BEATMAN. 16 күн бұрын
thats crazy
@mariebright6985
@mariebright6985 15 күн бұрын
Shalom beautiful people and many blessings to you all and to your beautiful families. I thought cemeteries were in a position to be identified as landmarks. Because cemeteries are tied to a person's history, heritage, antecedents and life story. To build a park right over a cemetery is to agree with the erasing of a people's history. And we have seen way too many people be disturbingly comfortable with showing disregard and disrespect to the histories that help us understand the truth about our origin as a people. If certain individuals would just stop trying to erase the history of our people, then we wouldn't have to see graves sitting in the middle of a sidewalk. And to be even more honest, I am glad that this grave is in the middle of the sidealk. Because at least people can actually read the headstone and see why this young man lost his life. His life was cut short because of hate and racism. It would have been nice if the beautiful woman of substance @news reporter would have shared that vital part about this young man's grave. Because of hate, this man was unable to enjoy the beauty of life. He lived in an era, in a generation where he was told he was unfit for that kind of experience. GOD Bless you all and Shalom unto you and to your beautiful families.
@laurie7689
@laurie7689 6 күн бұрын
A lot of the really old cemeteries were privately owned family cemeteries. Eventually, the land would be sold off. If they were sold to the city, then they might get preserved. If they were sold to developers, then they disappeared.
@melissaford717
@melissaford717 6 күн бұрын
At the intersection of Frankford and Cheltenham Avenues in Philadelphia, there are four (4) different cemeteries at each corner. Growing up, we would cut through the cemetery up the street from my house to get to Wissinoming Park, which had a different cemetery that ran along the side of the park. I understand the history, but I bet more people have seen that man's grave more times now than before. It keeps him alive in people who never met him like me. Take care 🙂
@weewhorobin8202
@weewhorobin8202 15 күн бұрын
That’s just so cool! Mr Williams should stay 😊
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN 17 күн бұрын
2:50 United States Colored Troops veteran, his military info is on Findagrave site about this cemetery, Pvt. Masters, Co. A, 21st Regiment USCT, enlisted in the Union army June 13, 1863 at Fernandina Beach, Fl. His memorial is located within the Fagin plot. NOBODY in the neighborhood has marked his grave with a period American flag??
@smorris281
@smorris281 4 күн бұрын
Isn’t it a bit disrespectful to move bodies around in a cemetery to accommodate a playground and community center?
@TiimeToRoar
@TiimeToRoar 18 күн бұрын
We must not destroy the world, but preserve it - every single creature, every insect, every plant is part of God's world. Woe to those that disturb His world.
@maryw3643
@maryw3643 15 күн бұрын
What's wrong with children playing by a graveyard? The kids don't know that people die.
@Nirrrina
@Nirrrina 2 күн бұрын
They should just leave him he isn't hurting anything. He's not even blocking the sidewalk for wheelchairs because they built an area to go around it. Someone should clean up that other area some though. Then like the gentleman said there should be a memorial sign placed telling about how it ysed to be a cemetery & all about it. As for the park they might as well leave it. Kids won't care if theres graves nearby.
@jerrilynhenson9024
@jerrilynhenson9024 9 күн бұрын
Williams, not Wilson. Leave it there. He wasn’t buried there after the sidewalk was put in.
@BoundyMan
@BoundyMan 17 күн бұрын
While the dead are often forgotten by man, they are not forgotten by God. When Jesus returns all will rise from their graves no matter where they are. While we worry about disturbing current graves and cemeteries, we forget that we often disturb ancient graves, both intentionally and unintentionally.
@loricrane5315
@loricrane5315 12 күн бұрын
Proof it doesn't matter who you were
@Shey2201
@Shey2201 15 күн бұрын
NO 🗣🔉🔊 Let's Be Clear They build the sidewalk around his GRAVE. Leave it there! The family paid for that final resting place and that's how it should STAY!
@ilanchii
@ilanchii 15 күн бұрын
Why move him now ?? If anything it’s a city attraction !!! Leave him alone plz.
@user-sy1ym1mc9p
@user-sy1ym1mc9p 10 күн бұрын
Many of the commenters have said the name is Williams not Wilson how about you correct yourself and have some more respect for the man I want you to show me where they were moved to
@OHBoyNTX
@OHBoyNTX 16 күн бұрын
There is a park in my town that was recently discovered to have bodies buried in unmarked graves. Back in the late 1800s there was an infirmary on the location.
@theresehopkins1581
@theresehopkins1581 15 күн бұрын
Well.... it used to be a cemetery.....😕...My question is...... it's been over a century and you're just reporting on this now?!?!?!.... It's not like it's bothered anyone for OVER A CENTURY!! ???🙄
@Califresh21
@Califresh21 18 күн бұрын
Mayor on summer vacation is wild rogue don’t we pay their salary’s????
@CarlaMecheleMedia
@CarlaMecheleMedia 17 күн бұрын
So glad this story is being told!!!!
@lesal.1373
@lesal.1373 13 күн бұрын
Just leave it be please. Definitely mark and keep a record of it. It's uncomfortable to think about and probably could have been done better but, we on this earth have finite space. As long as we continue to bury our dead this will happen over and over again. Otherwise we would all be living in cemeteries. Just think of how many humans have walked this earth before us.
@danor6812
@danor6812 4 күн бұрын
It should stay there. Stop trying to change things to make yourselves feel better. Read what the Tombstone says. It shows there were good people back then. A good man is buried there. Just let him be. I'm sure the reason they left it there is because of what he did. Left it there so others can walk by and read a little about this man.
@NinjaTenK
@NinjaTenK 14 күн бұрын
Question is did they get them all minus the ones that you can see
@teresaesquivel2040
@teresaesquivel2040 17 күн бұрын
You dont need a map to know that
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN 17 күн бұрын
1:54 GREAT Find Sir !!!
@904amp009
@904amp009 18 күн бұрын
Wow
@reuben1798
@reuben1798 14 күн бұрын
That’s messed up.
@OfficialDJTasawennateken
@OfficialDJTasawennateken 3 күн бұрын
It's Thompson Williams what is this woman blind or something
@neekeyzonked5574
@neekeyzonked5574 16 күн бұрын
Durkeevill sounds like a lil durk nickname
@robertward8035
@robertward8035 15 күн бұрын
I think that's cool. Life, all together.
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN 17 күн бұрын
LOL Why move the man now???? His grave marker there actually marks the whole cemetery, as far as we know HIS grave may very well be the furthermost grave on that side OF the cemetery, thus the road builders used HIS grave & marker as a STOPPING point for the road.
@StaylowK
@StaylowK 18 күн бұрын
What's the issue
@janetprice85
@janetprice85 18 күн бұрын
Disrespect. It was a cemetary.
@StaylowK
@StaylowK 17 күн бұрын
@@janetprice85 still is......one man cemetery
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN 17 күн бұрын
@@janetprice85 LOL , if you know the history there is NO disrespect
@bobbyromanczuk
@bobbyromanczuk 7 күн бұрын
​@@REVNUMANEWBERNno disrespect? Racism literally killed this man....
@COWGIRLBABY19841
@COWGIRLBABY19841 16 күн бұрын
Okay honestly they need to leave it where its at do not move the grave or the body That's somebody's final resting place and in my opinion that would be really disrespectful to disturb Somebody's final resting place especially for someone like him who made the ultimate sacrifice to protect another life. And honestly one more thing I'm gonna say on this is that for those people that walk through there all the time especially those that don't have much respect for the environment and you just throw your trash down wherever you feel like throwing it Stop and think Especially when you're walking through somewhere that is somebody else's final resting place how would you like it if somebody disrespected your final resting place like that by just throwing their trash and stuff like that on the ground On your grave like you didn't matter. Show some respect not just for the living but also for the dead.
@VVV953
@VVV953 2 күн бұрын
It's an acknowledgment of the past let it be
@izzymiler6974
@izzymiler6974 17 күн бұрын
I was wondering it haunted.
@MsDisneylandlover
@MsDisneylandlover 13 күн бұрын
Black Hope
@averageamericangirl6819
@averageamericangirl6819 15 күн бұрын
Slow news day…..
@orbsandshadows8899
@orbsandshadows8899 11 күн бұрын
Hahahaha she got the name wrong
@Jj-mn2nz
@Jj-mn2nz 17 күн бұрын
🤔 and leave it alone ✅
@Tankhead7
@Tankhead7 14 күн бұрын
Only in Florida
@MsDisneylandlover
@MsDisneylandlover 13 күн бұрын
Crazy
@stephaniejames4940
@stephaniejames4940 16 күн бұрын
I knew it.
@raydogg2821
@raydogg2821 14 күн бұрын
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@syntheticfuture1718
@syntheticfuture1718 11 күн бұрын
sounds like seven hills ohio
@bennoble2049
@bennoble2049 13 күн бұрын
Jenese is illiterate. 📚 🧠 💥
@freepanda1553
@freepanda1553 10 күн бұрын
Williams , not Wilson . It's on the tombstone right in front of your face . How did you get that job when you can't even read ?
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