If you're interested, here is the companion podcast, where I look at some of the more important recent interactions among stars (Harden, Westbrook, etc.) and discuss some of these ideas in more detail: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/podcast-91-how-teammates-change-your-stats-wowy-interactions/id1428290303?i=1000541703642
@collinwimbish45162 жыл бұрын
Will you ever record an audiobook version of your book, thinking basketball?
@chancemoreno78312 жыл бұрын
@@collinwimbish4516 i
@EdwardElfigo2 жыл бұрын
The game the warriors just had against Toronto is the definition of Curry destroying an opponent without touching the ball or putting stats up.
@user-et2xr1kw5c Жыл бұрын
😮
@eternalboss10462 жыл бұрын
Lol at making fun of Stephen A Smith. His level of deep analysis is "the brutha can pull up from 30 but he gotta get the chip!"
@javigar1332 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, you nailed It, I almost fell off the chair.
@prolifik52 жыл бұрын
I would have appreciated a warning honestly.
@TheShepdawg92 жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@ThePartarar2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your contributions to the game. You’ve changed how I work on the court, and how I watch it when I’m not.
@ThinkingBasketball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that - made my day.
@ashamael2 жыл бұрын
The TS% increase for Durant while playing with Curry on the floor is just another testament to the greatness of Curry. The fact that KD was so effective no matter the load is another testament to why he's one of the greatest to ever do it. And Klay's effectiveness being the third wheel, the splash brother, or the main focus is why he's so underrated in the history of the sport. He's such an incredible compliment player and would be my first pick to be the tertiary star on any squad because of that, despite their being 8 or 10 guys who are probably (or at least seen as) better. I'd want all three of them on my all-time team. It was such a pleasure getting to witness that piece of NBA history.
@pedromdcc132 жыл бұрын
Great to see you back. But, because I want you back even more frequently, I'd like to know if the 5 thoughts would be back for this season or is it retired to the hall of fame of youtube basketball content?
@abiolaolayinka20232 жыл бұрын
Loved that bit as well, we want it back please.
@ThinkingBasketball2 жыл бұрын
Playing with something similar. We'll see!
@pedromdcc132 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingBasketball Better have some nails with that hammer man, don't tease me
@WNPass2 жыл бұрын
Five thoughts seemed like a nice way to post consistently with less time consumption/effort. If it doesn't come back, I hope he creates something else that is relatively easy to produce and doesn't detract from his more in-depth videos to increase the upload frequency.
@bringinthedope59292 жыл бұрын
@@pedromdcc13 lmao. Late but dope comment. Great to underrated stellar content get appreciated.
@Sotanath86q2 жыл бұрын
Bosh comes to mind as one of the highest bandwidth guys I can remember. Played his tertiary star role in Miami and had some monster games when Wade + Lebron sat.
@Anthonydu016302 жыл бұрын
Same for Rondo with the Celtics, KD without Harden and Kyrie against the BUCKS, PG without Kawhi (you can see it right now his stats are Top 3 in the league ATM), Westbrook without KD averaging a 31ppg Triple-Double or Harden without KD and Westbrook averaging 36ppg and 7.5ast or 29ppg and 11 ast … These guys are all way better than Bosh.
@Jonas-PD2 жыл бұрын
He was also hitting his stride as the main option in Miami after Lebron left. Sucks that he had to retire
@Time_Lapse_Master. Жыл бұрын
@@Anthonydu01630A lot of them couldn't be as effective when they shared the court with another star. Harden with those stars couldn't adjust his game like Bosh could. Harden probably still contributed more since he's simply a much better player, but the reduction in impact is probably much larger than Bosh's
@jojoprocess2820 Жыл бұрын
@@Time_Lapse_Master.Generally agree but harden is such a horrible example. His game scaled down perfectly with the Nets, allowing him to run the offense, setting up kd kyrie and most importantly the roleplayers. Better example is rondo or westbrook who absolutely destroy spacing
@Time_Lapse_Master. Жыл бұрын
@@jojoprocess2820 Defense.
@MindfulAttraction2 жыл бұрын
You're the type of channel that deserves some Chinese food, coca cola, and a blunt in hand after a long day. I'll be back to give you a proper viewing
@numbspirit3132 жыл бұрын
This channel is the truth, very in depth and comprehensive.
@billnyethesciencesguy2 жыл бұрын
Gonna reach basketball enlightenment
@symonwatson69722 жыл бұрын
So you need to poison yourself to enjoy video huh🤔 I hear ya🤷🏾♂️🤣🤣😉
@billnyethesciencesguy2 жыл бұрын
@@symonwatson6972 sounds like you need to *chill out*
@mayormarc2222 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t have said it better 😂😂😂
@En_Gho2 жыл бұрын
From this day forward, Russell Westbrook will forever be known as Lord of the Triple Double and Prince of High Usage. Thanks @ Thinking Basketball
@charl_lee2 жыл бұрын
Yesss, my brain needs more hardcore basketball insight🤖 If all basketball fans watched this channel, it would insanely advance the general thinking of basketball culture
@tonj022 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for a complete many hour long warriors documentary starting from and finish with the curry era. People act like his career started in 15 but there was a lot of interesting stuff going on there since he was drafted. I’d love to hear from people who were there what went on during the curry and Ellis years. Then the 13 and 14 seasons were interesting as well. Anyways, we can revisit this in 30 years when it comes out. Title prediction: the golden era
@zevanshuster84412 жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up in the Bay (was 10 years old for Steph’s rookie year), I can tell you it was indeed a fascinating time.
@hoanghale26712 жыл бұрын
It probably doesn't need 30 years from now. My guess is somewhere around 10 after Steph retires
@CB-ns6sy2 жыл бұрын
Chill StephSexual!
@tonj022 жыл бұрын
@@hoanghale2671 I mean they just released the last dance and it’s been like 20 years since Jordan retired. Either way, it sucks the warriors denied complete access for a future documentary, well probably only get a fraction of the behind the scenes footage we would have if they allowed everything to be filmed. That sucks
@coledorillo66852 жыл бұрын
I was going to be productive and study but you don’t skip a thinking basketball video 😤
@malachilopez772 жыл бұрын
The more you talk about Steph the enigmatic he seems do you think that we can actually create a stat that can accurately define his offensive value
@TyroneNBAFan2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking you could start with how often he's double teamed or how many defenders he pulls with his off ball movement. You could even give an assist to some of those baskets if it's a defender Steph occupied.
@ThinkingBasketball2 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the future, but I feel like that's a ways away.
@kingdinodragonite34702 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingBasketball I have problem with points per 100 through different eras. In 2021, there are 27 players averaging 30pts per 100 but in 1974 there’s only 3 which is unfair for the previous generation. My suggestion would be using p values (you could use RStudio) and then analyze and use numerical summaries and give it a confidence interval of 99% to see the more anomaly season ps in history. For example, Mcgrady only registered 42 pts per 100 which is lower than guys like Embiid in 2021 and I think it’s unfair for TMac because 42pts per 100 is an anomaly back then as opposed to today. However, if you use p-values, Tmac has a case of being a top 3 scorer in his peak. The best way is probably use 10000 x (Points per 100 of a player)/ (point per 100 of a team league average)(field goal attempts league average). So a guy like Kobe in 2006 would be (10000)(45.6)/(108.4)(80.6) = 52.19 Adjusted scoring rate. For Tmac in 2003, that would be (10000)(42.0)/(105.2)(82.5) = 48.39 Adjusted scoring rate For James Harden in 2019: (10000)(48.2)/(115.3)(87.4) = 47.83 Adjusted scoring rate This is much better than points per 75 or 100 to make it fair for the pre-2010s era.
@djspacewhale2 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingBasketball if this isn't too far outside the scope of a KZfaq comment, what's insufficient about current offensive statistics, e.g RAPTOR or adjusted +/-, wrt evaluating off-ball contributions?
@swageyamatobiyolo80682 жыл бұрын
@@kingdinodragonite3470 2021 is an outlier IMO i dont think we'll see PPG and ORTG values like that for a while again
@ualreadykno2K2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a rookie analysis like what you did for the rookies in 2018-19 season; Luka, Trae, MB2, JJJ
@StocktonSmurf2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy I remember three or four years ago a famous clip of Kerr talking to curry during a shooting slump and talking about how tilted he has the floor and how he has his value there
@antonioleon31232 жыл бұрын
Amazing intuition in that last point (expanding capacity, reducing the tradeoff, free lunch, no opportunity cost). Thank you for these videos, please keep it up!
@magicmagic81882 жыл бұрын
The way you put how curry can improve his team’s offense at no opportunity cost really opened my eyes to his impact on court.
@bmebuzz87182 жыл бұрын
A collab with J Kyle Mann is what i need in my life🙏🏾😭please
@babyeric2 жыл бұрын
Mann was on the Thinking Basketball Podcast earlier this year following the draft.
@cheeto60572 жыл бұрын
@@babyeric link?
@pedromdcc132 жыл бұрын
They have collaborated in the podcast a couple of times
@TBRiddles2 жыл бұрын
They collaborate on the Thinking Basketball Podcast quite often
@mangyangghos2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched it yet, but I love that you made this video. This is a topic I've discussed with friends countless times. Can't wait to see your analytics.
@aesir7482 жыл бұрын
Honestly same thing happens with Giannis as Steph. His offensive load right now is crazy high but it's even higher that what the stat would show because of how consistently threatening his existence on the court is. Double teams and help defense are the only way to stop him sometimes which gives his teammates free looks constantly. That's something that is often not fully considered with some stars, how much attention do opposing teams need to give them and how does that affect their teamates?
@Michael-eq8th2 жыл бұрын
Ben's assessment of Steph Curry is spot on. It is also the same way in which he undervalues Dennis Rodman.
@itsdreamy37042 жыл бұрын
He really is good at his craft, making basketball analysis video. He never makes a boring video
@sirtajgill47542 жыл бұрын
this is not only the best channel for basketball on youtube, it is the best channel on youtube period
@vinnythep00h2 жыл бұрын
this channel has expanded my ability to analyze basketball far more than anything on the internet
@bricefleckenstein96662 жыл бұрын
Got a classic set of stats to look at. Wilt averaged 50.4 per game in the 1961-1962 season. His worst 4 games? 26, 28, 30, 31 - ALL against Bill Russell. His AVERAGE against Bill in that season was about 12 points LESS than against the rest of the league. He DID beat his average three times - 62, 53, 52 - but note that two of those three games out of their *12* meetings that year BARELY beat his average. In other words, Bill held Wilt under Wilt's season average 9 of 12 times, and more of those were WAY under Wilt's average than were over. This is also the year Wilt managed 100 points (against a Knicks team who had a sick starting center that did not play - his Warriors won 169-147 which is amazingly close all factors considered), 78 earlier in the year against the Lakers in a triple OT game. He also had games of 71 (that's HALF of his 70+ games for his career in this one season - for reference, only *11* have been scored in the history of the NBA, 6 of the 11 by Wilt) and about a half dozen 60+ games that season (more than all but 2 or perhaps 3 players have managed in their CAREER). Yes, stars routinely affect opposing stars to a measurable degree.
@samraizshoaib5854 ай бұрын
It wasnt just 1 but their 2nd Center also didnt play I believe due to getting into foul trouble. Wilt played his game against a Center ho didnt play all season long and his team force fed him the ball.
@bricefleckenstein96664 ай бұрын
@@samraizshoaib585 Their backup center DID play - at least part of the game. And yes, Wilt was hot enough that his team force-fed him the ball - to some degree all season but especially in that game. #3 that season in FG% for the entire league, nobody hit it better on his team (and the 2 folks in the league that did were fractions of a percent better).
@caleb_lane2 жыл бұрын
We need a Reggie Miller vid. I don’t know why I need one, but I’m convicted.
@injusticeanywherethreatens48102 жыл бұрын
oh im so sorry to hear. Of what crime? ;p
@marco50302 жыл бұрын
He's alluded to making a second series if Greatest Peaks was successful - and I feel like it was. So if he does make it, I think that's where we'll see players that he appreciates but hasn't covered - I would expect to see Miller, Dirk, Nash, etc there.
@ThinkingBasketball2 жыл бұрын
It will happen at some point.
@vishalsagi28422 жыл бұрын
Was literally watching another one of your videos when this noti popped up lol
@numfn50082 жыл бұрын
I feel like this just shows how good kd actually is
@hoangvyle22932 жыл бұрын
this show how good Curry actually is
@Natax99Final2 жыл бұрын
@@hoangvyle2293 imagine if they ever played together
@troliskimosko2 жыл бұрын
@@Natax99Final Lol
@dusk61592 жыл бұрын
@@Natax99Final Imagine how competition and parity breaking that would be.
@C999SP2 жыл бұрын
Man it’s pure joy seeing theses videos on my feed
@charlesking6782 жыл бұрын
Do one of these videos on Charles Barkley so Shaq can finally stop giving him hell for not having rings!
@PIEMAN1062 жыл бұрын
I think he's said that Charles Barkley was one of the last cuts of the peaks series
@charlesking6782 жыл бұрын
@@PIEMAN106 oh so Barkley didn't make the peak series?
@piusherbert2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesking678 nope sadly he didnt
@daanishgupta2 жыл бұрын
But Shaq acknowledges Chuck's skills and game. He has even said multiple times that Chuck is one of the best players he has ever seen. Having no rings doesn't make Chuck a bad player in Shaq's eyes.
@lik79532 жыл бұрын
@@daanishgupta lol they’re friends it’s all joking they both both each were all time greats
@BoolatGuzairov2 жыл бұрын
This rookie class definitely deserved your attention, Ben.
@MasterAppels2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for his and J Kyle Mann's rookie coverage later on in the season
@jrtstrategicapital5602 жыл бұрын
You had my brain doing push ups..love it! Looking forward to more. 👍
@blue-phoenix1152 жыл бұрын
This made me think of Luka and how much offensive load he carries that inflates his stats. Edit: No knock on Luka, he's a great player for sure but like the video explained, it's also how effective a Superstar becomes when paired with another massive star. It's easy to rack up impressive stats when the entire offense revolves around one player.
@Industrious4202 жыл бұрын
how is it inflated if he's the one doing the work?? df you mean inflated stats
@mtaylor12372 жыл бұрын
Yep, same thing goes for every other high USG player. There’s a reason they have that role, whether it’s due to politics or the players ability to generate said stats consistently.
@coledorillo66852 жыл бұрын
@@Industrious420 what he means by inflated is that Luka has a higher usage rate and load than other players, meaning he has more chances to rake up stats. It’s no knock on Luka, he’s without a doubt a superstar but he does have a big offensive load.
@Industrious4202 жыл бұрын
@@mtaylor1237 right? like it's his fault he has nobody else to rely on hahaha. Does that take away from his greatness at all or imply he's overhyped? I think you'd see his play style excel alongside other stars
@TBRiddles2 жыл бұрын
@@Industrious420 he’d excel next to other off ball dominant superstars like AD or Klay Thompson for sure. It’s still yet to be figured out how much value Luka brings without the ball in his hands tho.
@hresperjakovski3082 жыл бұрын
thanks for the upload, love the vids
@HomoErectus3112 жыл бұрын
The anti KD bias isn’t even hidden at this point lol. It’s not KD’s fault he was the best player in GSW. He’s literally posting record efficiency in Brooklyn without the guy you keep claiming creates open looks for him….
@randomperson25402 жыл бұрын
The fact that KD scoring actually improves both efficiency wise in value wise souls how much of a isolation score he is he’s dependent on it but he’s also great at it. Do you think guys like curry and rice were actually make him better especially curry where he opens up the floor for Kevin Durant
@musikomago81202 жыл бұрын
Rice 🤣🤣🤣
@kol82142 жыл бұрын
Rice?
@randomperson25402 жыл бұрын
Yes russel rice break, never heard of he ham
@kol82142 жыл бұрын
@@randomperson2540 ohhh ok
@mr.bubbles83512 жыл бұрын
KD will be KD with or without steph, being with steph doesn't elevate KD's skills but it does make things a lot easier
@cjzizzari24052 жыл бұрын
When he got to the curry section it reminded me why I’ve been telling people for years even though Kd is a better player he isn’t. In a vacuum he is but in practice. It’s advantage Curry.
@albericponcedeleon26962 жыл бұрын
They way I've looked at it is that KD is the better individual talent but Curry is the better team player. Meaning that Curry's playstyle and skillset has an easier time synergizing with his teammates' skillsets, while KD is more of a solo-carry style and skillset.
@notsocooldude77202 жыл бұрын
Can you make more videos sort of debunking narratives spun by networks like ESPN? I really enjoyed your video on winning bias from a while back and it was interesting how you touched on Stephen A’s focus on basic box score stats in this video
@lucascarman25782 жыл бұрын
I think anyone with any basketball knowledge and common sense could come to this conclusion on their own, but I'm glad you make this to create undeniable statistics. If you know basketball, you know that multiple stars on a team will lower slashline stats, but probably increase efficiency. And then the reverse is also true.
@oliveradam26412 жыл бұрын
Dude you clips you use are so on point, each one hits a key memory from my childhood
@TyroneNBAFan2 жыл бұрын
We need a Lakers break down and how Russell can fit in. I mean I would be honored if this channel were to post such a video, but I'd understand if they didn't 😁
@lik79532 жыл бұрын
I feel like he could make a video, but I feel like it doesn’t really fit the topics he likes to cover, about basketball history and statistical analysis
@samuelkeay65602 жыл бұрын
i love the moment which ben took for stephen A and his 28ppg
@ramtasitic22762 жыл бұрын
Great video like always man, glad to see your channel growing.
@ndog06392 жыл бұрын
Basketball tactics of the the future. In the past the focus has been using all the air in the room as efficiently as possible, but with discoveries like this the future is to get as much air in the room as possible
@oneman91212 жыл бұрын
Let's face it. Steph Curry is an anomaly. He's the first superstar that analysts and fans alike aren't able to put a number to his offensive value. How do you measure J.R Smith giving up an open dunk to KD instead of a Curry three? Is it just bad defense? Bad logic? Is it fear? How do you measure something like that?
@calvincoleman75432 жыл бұрын
Confusion/panic
@oTownruler2 жыл бұрын
Handsdown the best bball channel out there!
@philipwacker46292 жыл бұрын
Treasure this channel so much. Thanks for the epic content! I would love to see a Manu Ginobili flash back, maybe in a broader category of "unorthodox players / styles" that deservedly created their own niche. But I understand if that's not a primary interest or up-to-date enough for a video. Thanks again, for the amazing insights which you present with great writing and humour. I'm advertising your videos wherever I see the slightest interest in basketball :)
@Katsos442 жыл бұрын
Perfect way to start a Friday afternoon
@RecapRico2 жыл бұрын
Didn't realize you had a podcast. Almost 200 episodes. This should be 👍
@adjeostr97202 жыл бұрын
one day this guy is gonna get hired by a team and we'll all realize how we took this content for granted
@arnoldpalmer41762 жыл бұрын
I used to call it the “Devin Booker effect” when Booker was on the lousy lousy suns and the Warriors were stacked beyond belief. People would take shots at Steph for only putting up numbers because his team was so filthy, so I used that logic and said “So Booker would average 35 on the 2017 warriors” crickets…
@arnoldpalmer41762 жыл бұрын
Obviously, many many more examples throughout history. But the conversation really heated up about the “ease of putting up numbers” in regards to the warriors greatness.
@sportswikipedia57392 жыл бұрын
Love it when thinking basketball uploads
@Kumingaaa2 жыл бұрын
New thinking basketball yesssirrrr
@levitodd67352 жыл бұрын
Best channel for basketball content.
@martizada2 жыл бұрын
Great educational video. Dropping real knowledge about basketball
@MindfulAttraction2 жыл бұрын
curry and bird are so similar its unreal
@vinidarocha22572 жыл бұрын
hey Ben, great video as always - but one thing's keeping me up at night today: at around the 3:50 mark, one of the Durants has the upper part of their nose open, whilst the other two don't.
@traviscarlson88102 жыл бұрын
why have you cursed me with this knowledge
@jimmyjoejerkic2 жыл бұрын
I got him, Steph and Jokic, followed closely by Giannis, as the top players in the league right now. KD is a monster.
@Soosss2 жыл бұрын
Jokic is crazy, he’s somehow better than last year.
@masondupre5182 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the game of zones clip 😂
@haydenfraser15432 жыл бұрын
this dude posted more videos in the past month than the past 4 combined lol
@robertlowe63672 жыл бұрын
He posts more during the NBA season. Makes sense.
@haydenfraser15432 жыл бұрын
@@robertlowe6367 i ain’t complaining. this is heaven for me. i’m just praying the 5 thoughts series returns🙏🤞
@SaxonFaust2 жыл бұрын
you were wrong about KD's numbers going down when not playing with Curry after what I saw him do against the bucks in last year's playoffs and current regular season.
@fmvp68922 жыл бұрын
GSW system is centered around Curry so obviously if everyone plays off of Curry without Curry they look bad. In Brooklyn they run a heavy iso offense which KD thrives in very well; pretty much all of their stars are iso heavy so it wouldnt affect him as much in that system.
@yetundeadeyemi2436 Жыл бұрын
Lol kd wishing he had Steph now
@Aaron-nm1ob2 жыл бұрын
When the world needed him most, he returned
@Chairsium2 жыл бұрын
11:24 Well, they do call him Chef Curry. So, the idea that he makes more pies for other players kinda makes sense.
@yuh-fv7ds2 жыл бұрын
This is why if you were to build a team from scratch, Steph would be on it every single time.
@geordiejones56182 жыл бұрын
Steph, Lebron and Jordan are all next level in terms of offensive dominance. Most high level combos of scoring and passing in NBA history.
@dt-lg2oc2 жыл бұрын
@@geordiejones5618 jordan really?
@kingjaydex74642 жыл бұрын
@@dt-lg2oc Jordan has a strong argument as the best offensive player ever
@dt-lg2oc2 жыл бұрын
@@kingjaydex7464 I get it but he is a bit to ball dominant
@kingjaydex74642 жыл бұрын
@@dt-lg2oc Jordan is less ball dominant than LeBron
@radafromaz2 жыл бұрын
these stats are showing this season too. kd is easily averaging 30 because he’s the best player on the floor and as of right now, can’t rely on harden
@nofully40492 жыл бұрын
U see he ain’t show he’s nets stats curry Stans 😂
@SM-vx6zq2 жыл бұрын
This needs to be broadcasted to all of NBA Twitter with a mandatory watch before you log in
@proactivex2 жыл бұрын
you're the best at this
@sanhou84012 жыл бұрын
Why is this channel not 1M subs?
@realtingdis15742 жыл бұрын
Bro this is truly great content. U should b getting more attention.
@justinmaddox28622 жыл бұрын
Don't ever sign to ESPN we need more real people like you in the game.
@Abell_lledA2 жыл бұрын
One doesn’t experience self-transcendence, the illusion of self only dissipates . 🎈
@jahavan85522 жыл бұрын
Love the game of zone reference!
@LoganNagol2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy KD was a 32.9 % 3 point shooter in the playoffs while on the thunder. And then 39.5 % while on the Warriors. Dang playing with Steph and Draymond just makes everyone a better shooter
@HomoErectus3112 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget how much KD was carrying Steph in some of those playoff series lol
@asonga54102 жыл бұрын
I think it's less so playing with them and more just having to fit the system. If you look to last year's playoffs, KD is still shooting the 3 (and from the field in general) really well. KD did come out of Golden State a better player tho, grateful he went there and got better defensively as well.
@randomperson25402 жыл бұрын
This is a really big and interesting question I always have this debate about LeBron there’s always people who argue he improves players and then there is always people say he doesn’t hopefully this helps.
@atlasterigo48282 жыл бұрын
Lebron improves role players who would only be shooting without him anyways. Steph curry is the greatest at elevating star players ever and that is something lebron would never be able to do unless completely remodelling his game. His inability to do so was the reason they lost in 11
@thegeno4242 жыл бұрын
@@atlasterigo4828 in combination with D Wade’s lack on doing so and bad spacing, but I agree with the point non the less
@dusk61592 жыл бұрын
Lebron is equipped to bring high schoolers through the regular season and to the Finals.
@cycleoflife5652 жыл бұрын
@@dusk6159 No he isn’t. Hopefully you were being sarcastic.
@dusk61592 жыл бұрын
@@cycleoflife565 Watch NBA basketball and its past seasons with James in Cleveland.
@edoc3212 жыл бұрын
KD plays to the team. If the team needs for scoring, he will do that; we saw it last playoffs. When he was a warrior he knew that passing was needed for the team to be successful, compared to the thunder when he was pretty much the only shooter and by far the best scorer. Same thing happened to Kobe.
@FennyWhopper2 жыл бұрын
I have a serious question for you Ben, I remember on one of your stats series videos you discussed how something would be mentioned in part 7. Will you ever finish the stats series or was the fifth installment the final installment. Btw that was a phenomenal series in terms of the way people should think about basketball analytics
@ReCharredSigh2 жыл бұрын
After you mentioned Lonestar, I kept waiting for you to drop a Spaceballs reference. Guess I’ll keep waiting.
@razorramon59372 жыл бұрын
This is why I always preferred teams to have maximum 2 stars because you of the players greatness with more mouths to feed leads to more sacrifice. KD is so amazing I will always be disappointed in him joining the Warriors, look what he did last year he was absolutely amazing and a baby toe from beating Bucks off his shoulders mainly 💯.
@akikoozeki31142 жыл бұрын
Waiting for a video on Dirk Nowitzki’s athletic Prime from 2001 to 2007
@trentadams31422 жыл бұрын
Should do a video on why Tony Parker was so good in the paint, love your work 👌👍
@acpliego2 жыл бұрын
The old timers called that trash stats. The hardest part is to really evaluate who’s better, if Durant in 2014 or in 2017
@HomoErectus3112 жыл бұрын
2017 since his defense was better but it’s pretty close either way. There is no clear peak for KD. Also, Kd was carrying Steph big time in a lot of those playoff series if we’re being honest
@asonga54102 жыл бұрын
Durant 2022
@bman549502 жыл бұрын
JUST WHAT I NEEDED
@temporalsoliton2 жыл бұрын
KD is unique in that he can play in the guard or forward (and occasionally center) positions seamlessly. He is a chameleon whose skills fits on any team which is not something most nba superstars have ever been able to do. Already a top 10 to ever play and will likely end up a top 5 when it is over. That said, has any mvp played with so many different other mvp players when both have been near their prime?
@fhjunior61832 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid
@gp66762 жыл бұрын
We need you to do an Evan Mobley and Scottie Barnes video. Seems like they are definitely your type of guys
@justincarter24172 жыл бұрын
That Curry section turned into Interstellar real quick
@zachtanchak2 жыл бұрын
Love the content
@sidhartabuenos79392 жыл бұрын
Holy hell 2 videos in one month niceee
@njstuckey2 жыл бұрын
Had to pause and leave a comment after the Westbrook clip from Game of Zones. Perfection.
@waynesulak14884 ай бұрын
Thanks for reminding everyone the NBA is not an individual game and betting on basketball stats is not betting on basketball.
@samuelyuan2912 жыл бұрын
Once again, your video proves that Curry is an alien.
@kingdinodragonite34702 жыл бұрын
I have problem with points per 100 through different eras. In 2021, there are 30 players averaging 30pts per 100 but in 1974 there’s only 3 which is unfair for the previous generation. My suggestion would be using p values (you could use RStudio) and then analyze and use numerical summaries and give it a confidence interval of 99% to see the more anomaly season ps in history. For example, Mcgrady only registered 42 pts per 100 which is lower than guys like Embiid in 2021 and I think it’s unfair for TMac because 42pts per 100 is an anomaly back then as opposed to today. However, if you use p-values, Tmac has a case of being a top 3 scorer in his peak. The best way is probably use 10000 x (Points per 100 of a player)/ (point per 100 of a team league average)(field goal attempts league average) .So a guy like Kobe in 2006 would be (10000)(45.6)/(106.2)(86.5) = 49.64 Adjusted scoring rate. Or simply (ppg/ team’s ppg ) x 100
@user-bm9cv9vn2k2 жыл бұрын
It is stupid. You're kobe fan and don't realise the number of shots he takes. Also having your rating higher than 35 means it's unhealthy.
@kingdinodragonite34702 жыл бұрын
@@user-bm9cv9vn2k im talking about volume tho. RTS% is already there for efficiency. That's why even if Kobe might be the highest volume scorer ever, I still think 1988 Jordan is the best scorer ever simply because of his insane efficiency and having a top 5 volume. A guy like Garnett was the most prolific scorer in 2004 with only 1960 points and only averaging 33 pts per 100. Today, that wouldn't even make it in the top 15. It's unfair for guys like him to simply say he is a worse scorer than a guy like Miles Bridges because Bridges is playing in an offensive-friendly era. Points per 100 possessions is not entirely related to volume because it has a hidden variable already which is efficiency (its name is literally points per possession) and the fact that you have already rTs% for the efficiency metric makes it inconsistent for different eras.
@kingdinodragonite34702 жыл бұрын
@@user-bm9cv9vn2k Note: This is just pure volume. So a guy like Kobe in 2006 would be (10000)(45.6)/(108.4)(80.6) = 52.19 Adjusted scoring rate. For Tmac in 2003, that would be (10000)(42.0)/(105.2)(82.5) = 48.39 Adjusted scoring rate For James Harden in 2019: (10000)(48.2)/(115.3)(87.4) = 47.83 Adjusted scoring rate This is much better than points per 75 or 100.
@kingdinodragonite34702 жыл бұрын
@@user-bm9cv9vn2k For simplicity sake: Eras A and B each have a pace of 100 possessions. Era A however, only scores 80pts per game. Era B scores around 120pts per game. The leading scorer in Era A (let's say his name is Player A) averages 30 pts. The leading scorer in Era B (Player B) averages 38 pts. Since both eras play with the same pace (100 possessions): Player A averages 30pts per 100 Player B averages 38pts per 100 So according to Thinking Basketball, Player has higher VOLUME because of higher pts per 100. For me, the answer is no. That's why we have to keep it fair and divide the era's points per 100 so Player A = 30/80 x 100 = 37.5 and Player B = 38/120 x 100 = 31.7.
@ThinkingBasketball2 жыл бұрын
I do use a linear adjustment for volume as well -- see my video on "Adjusting for Inflation"
@firrefly26132 жыл бұрын
Astronomy metaphors are god tier
@xarmanhsh29812 жыл бұрын
Just imagine steph with giannis. They would be the best duo of all time
@HomoErectus3112 жыл бұрын
Kobe and Shaq already played together lol
@ToastedToddler2 жыл бұрын
Just some critique, why not cross-examine the data of megastars’ individual offensive performance against their teammates’ specific games where their offense was objectively bad and find the meta compared to when their offense was objectively good.
@cannedpineapple27022 жыл бұрын
Did u seriously use a Galaxy Quest clip?? FUCK YEAH
@ThinkingBasketball2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Someone knew it!
@cannedpineapple27022 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingBasketball love that movie!! never give up, never surrender
@thparadox212 жыл бұрын
We may need part 2 on this about Manu Ginobili
@eagleC9112 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this take on Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum
@henrylake92942 жыл бұрын
‘Fluctuated between a load … in the 80th percentile, to carrying one that only four players have ever hit…’ I think that’s a bit misleading, those four are the only ones to AVERAGE that offensive load. My bets are on a few more having done it at least once.
@jaredaulick3432 жыл бұрын
I’m not seeing podcast #91 that you mentioned anywhere? Is it uploaded?
@jimmyjoejerkic2 жыл бұрын
Ben, given that KD's numbers are visibly lower with a ball dominant point guard, perhaps if he teams up with a POINT CENTER, we would have the most efficient offense ever? Just imagine KD with Big Honey in the same team. Two 7f giants with ultimate scoring and passing Oo