The 2025 Porsche Taycan 4S Is A Perfected Electric German Sport Sedan

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Redline Reviews

Redline Reviews

2 ай бұрын

After 5 years on the market, the #PorscheTaycan is finally ready for some upgrades and #Porsche has made some significant changes to the powertrains of the latest #Taycan family. The volume selling #Taycan4S now gets the same power levels from last years #TaycanGTS and with its new rear electric motor and larger 105 kWh battery pack, you should expect more range and quicker acceleration.
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@theredline
@theredline 2 ай бұрын
Happy Friday everyone! So this video is a 1 of 3! The other two videos will post on 4/3 and 4/10 at 8am EST. We’re saving the best for last and the review on the Turbo S Cross Turismo will post on 4/3, while that stunning purple Taycan Turbo GT will post on 4/10. You’ll also find full driving impressions on this Taycan 4S posting on 4/3! Stay tuned, set your calendars to remind you to tune in and we hope you all have a great weekend! 😊
@werunguns
@werunguns 2 ай бұрын
Looking forward to it
@Kareem-cx4fi
@Kareem-cx4fi 2 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the review. Need to start adding Ev efficiency numbers to your stats, like mpge and or miles/kwh. Just like gas cars it's good to know how efficient these EVs are, especially for their class.
@kreigerbailey3550
@kreigerbailey3550 2 ай бұрын
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!!
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 2 ай бұрын
Redline - the Porsche Taycan 4S is really CRAPPY. VW has no confidence in Porsche anymore and SOLD it off. AUDI will be NEXT . the TESLA model S PLAID represents BEST in class LUX Performance car.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 2 ай бұрын
RED line - Porsche get very CRAPPY range & Efficiency.
@quantx6572
@quantx6572 2 ай бұрын
My favorite EV hands down. High quality, excellent tech, and beautiful inside and out. But man, you gotta be quite wealthy to afford one of these. That MRSP is no joke.
@chigasaki06
@chigasaki06 2 ай бұрын
Just wait a year.
@quantx6572
@quantx6572 2 ай бұрын
@@chigasaki06 they have depreciated quite a lot in past models. however, i’m not so sure this will always be the case. these are really high quality automobiles from an engineering, performance, materials, build standpoint, and its only the immature EV tech that has accelerated and amplified their depreciation. i think these newer Taycan models with the newer tech are going to hold their value even better than past models.
@MonsieurGuy
@MonsieurGuy 2 ай бұрын
@@quantx6572 All EVs are gonna depreciate badly, battery tech is still in it's infancy and will improve year on year and Porsche (and every EV manufacturer) no longer can wait 3-4 years for it's facelift to update the car to stay relevant, the EV market is extremely competitive and consumers want the best tech immediately. Proof of this can be seen in the 1st gen Taycan, over it's last 4 years, it's received multiple updates to improve the car, little by little. All EV cars are going to depreciate because nobody will want to own one after it's 3rd or 4th year. It's nothing exclusive to Porsche, just look around.
@bhuvstechworld9743
@bhuvstechworld9743 12 күн бұрын
​@@quantx6572thats the same for the og taycan
@bhuvstechworld9743
@bhuvstechworld9743 12 күн бұрын
​@@quantx6572thats the same for the og taycan
@adamrfletcher
@adamrfletcher 2 ай бұрын
You can open the charge port from the outside. slide your finger on the little black bump.
@billderas3420
@billderas3420 2 ай бұрын
$175K! Moving on...
@briantep458
@briantep458 2 ай бұрын
im a Porsche guy but 175K is not even close to what this thing is worth
@rahimi4762
@rahimi4762 2 ай бұрын
You were in the wrong segment anyway. Go buy a Hyundai
@Aggie4life77
@Aggie4life77 2 ай бұрын
Bro, you know damn well this car was out your league when you clicked on the vid lol!
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763 2 ай бұрын
Don't let the door hit you on the way out pal
@brandon7136
@brandon7136 2 ай бұрын
I have a 22, when i purchased non were available. Today you can get a 1-2 year old low mile Taycans at a huge discount due to high depreciation. Taycan is the best car ive owned.
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq 2 ай бұрын
the 22 model looks better also :)
@johnelegant1727
@johnelegant1727 2 ай бұрын
Sofyan, another superb video by you. Lots of information presented in a very interesting way. Looking forward to your next two 2025 Taycan videos over the next few weeks. As to the Taycan, Porsche with the 2025 Taycan’s major range increase, even faster charging, and other strong improvements, kept the gorgeous Taycan leading the EV sports car field, for we never forget the pre-imminent Porsche handling and steering too. Thanks Redline Reviews!!! Very well done
@ashleymoore9063
@ashleymoore9063 Ай бұрын
The fastest depreciating car on the market I can't wait
@tpolerex7282
@tpolerex7282 2 ай бұрын
A one year old version of these will be valued wholesale at an astounding 50% of its original MSRP. Now that’s fast, depreciation that is.
@karacha
@karacha 2 ай бұрын
I guess most of us would have to wait for a three-year old version before it becomes sort of affordable., haha. Nice car though.
@snakeeyes9246
@snakeeyes9246 2 ай бұрын
I want one, and the rates of depreciation will hopefully make it affordable sooner than later.
@Csirkefoga
@Csirkefoga 2 ай бұрын
Depreciation is oir friend, that is if You’re a dumpster diver like me 😂😂
@RKO859
@RKO859 2 ай бұрын
@tpolerex7282 show me a 2023 Taycan that's selling 50% of its original MSRP. DOn't BS if you are fabricating clown statements
@CompletelyObsorbed
@CompletelyObsorbed 2 ай бұрын
You would need to be insane to buy an electric vehicle at MSRP.
@DurzoBlunts
@DurzoBlunts 2 ай бұрын
Fastest depreciating model they've produced.
@PaulCWash
@PaulCWash 2 ай бұрын
Porsche literally nickel and diming for everything! An up charge for a rear middle seat is wild
@Rapido20
@Rapido20 2 ай бұрын
They literally charge for coloring the crest on the wheels. Standard on your brand new Corolla lol
@jinglesmcgee7256
@jinglesmcgee7256 2 ай бұрын
I am in the market for a replacement for the Model 3 Performance and they lost me at an additional charge for 150Kw charging
@galactictomato1434
@galactictomato1434 2 ай бұрын
​​@@jinglesmcgee7256150kw is now standard on the new 2025 models.
@derrickdavis7917
@derrickdavis7917 2 ай бұрын
$175k is pretty absurd... $85k and we can talk lol.
@DBGE001
@DBGE001 2 ай бұрын
Buy the base RWD without all the options, it's the better car and available from $90k.
@stevornrichards1380
@stevornrichards1380 2 ай бұрын
What Porsche you buying for $75k? You're in the wrong segment lol
@pedrorosado3622
@pedrorosado3622 2 ай бұрын
Just wait 3 years and buy it used. It'll be close to that price.
@derrickdavis7917
@derrickdavis7917 2 ай бұрын
@@stevornrichards1380 Guess so lol... Those prices yikes. I have a Q8, I wonder how much the new Macan EV will cost...
@GOD999MODE
@GOD999MODE 2 ай бұрын
The price is ridiculous and it's also way too early into EVs to say Porsche "perfected" it. Wait until we get at least 10-15 years into doing this. It's only just begun. Battery tech still needs to undergo 2-3 gens of improvements.
@natasdrol
@natasdrol 2 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the Cross Turismo video!
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 2 ай бұрын
You always do a complete and thorough review of the car. However, you did not cover the price of the optional glass that you can see through🤔
@Supermazs
@Supermazs 2 ай бұрын
Congratulations 1m
@billnorblat4047
@billnorblat4047 2 ай бұрын
Just alil note... PDLS+ is so fancy it doesnt need extra lights for fog. There is a fog light setting on the light dial and the PDLS+ do it all just like oldschool lights. In addition it will light up the rear bright, and side markers to dim for increased visibility.
@googleuser3007
@googleuser3007 2 ай бұрын
$50K+ in options on a $118K auto is beyond ridiculous-just not smart at all. Could have gotten the Turbo version for that amount and probably received the best options as standard equipment. Most of these personalized options will not translate to $$ on resale. This car will be worth $80K or less in 2 years.
@johny3133
@johny3133 2 ай бұрын
Great look great exterior. Nicely updated
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 2 ай бұрын
OUTDATED ICE design. fail.
@johny3133
@johny3133 2 ай бұрын
@@markplott4820 fail is what comes out of your mouth
@Shaqshaq_pov
@Shaqshaq_pov 2 ай бұрын
Don’t you have to slide your finger underneath that black fin piece for the charger to open up?
@Aggie4life77
@Aggie4life77 2 ай бұрын
This is my dream car that I’m finally getting this summer! Backseat space for adults is overrated lol! I’m a soon to be parent. Those back seats are mainly for car seats. With that said, there is plenty room for adults when you have family in town. We actually have an SUV for all that though.
@turbonorthcut893
@turbonorthcut893 2 ай бұрын
Porsche, ever nicklel and diming the hell out of people for everything!
@HenryRoss-wu4lo
@HenryRoss-wu4lo 2 ай бұрын
❤@Porsche's whips!
@Motorheaddoc
@Motorheaddoc 2 ай бұрын
The shitzu massage? She at su lol 18:10
@italianovero220
@italianovero220 16 күн бұрын
Came here to say that lol one is a dog, one is a type of massage. Great review though!
@JuanCarlosLTO
@JuanCarlosLTO 2 ай бұрын
Tough sale at that price. I can understand a 911 being priced similarly because a 911 will always be a 911 but in the case of EV’s they do have a lifespan of desirability and lose it as the technology becomes dated (and please don’t bring up the original Tesla Roadster, that’s different). We already have seen the plummeting prices of the current Taycan… 🤷🏻‍♂️ Gorgeous car IMO though
@singingLeaf123
@singingLeaf123 2 ай бұрын
the midtrim at 175k is crazy absurd
@Cerby1979
@Cerby1979 2 ай бұрын
I take it that you’ll be explaining about the new redesigned Nissan Kicks that was unveiled earlier in the afternoon.
@user-tp7yf4di2u
@user-tp7yf4di2u 23 күн бұрын
Is it possible to get a sunroof that opens up in this car
@kreigerbailey3550
@kreigerbailey3550 2 ай бұрын
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!!
@keithrodes1591
@keithrodes1591 2 ай бұрын
I want one!!!
@jeraldb2868
@jeraldb2868 Ай бұрын
Its 0-60 in 3.5sec is impressive! But what’s more impressive is its rate of depreciation (as is with all EVs)…$175k-$100k in 3.4 months 😂
@megaboom69
@megaboom69 2 ай бұрын
I saw one in person at a restaurant. Looks nice but price isn't.
@yasseralwash7127
@yasseralwash7127 2 ай бұрын
2k just to change lights to blue?! Wtf
@AnkitSharma-bz3rq
@AnkitSharma-bz3rq 2 ай бұрын
Porsche is offering 175k msrp on this car . Does this car fly , goes 1k miles on full charge or its a special edition coz VW is offering 2 speed auto instead of 1 speed auto from audi e tron ?
@kpkf45
@kpkf45 Ай бұрын
Thank you. Please review the new Cayenne S v8 suv 🔥
@clubsobri
@clubsobri Ай бұрын
The Tycan was good from the start. But the range, compared to what Tesla and Lucid could do, was just not there. Especially since this one is way more expensive. It has much better performance than its competitors, but that was not enough based on price. Now that it has better range, and it is still the performance king, it is a more compelling package. The outside looks great still, if a bit less futuristic. A beauty!
@MegaRetr
@MegaRetr 2 ай бұрын
Awesome Taycan 4S love it
@enriqueherrera9550
@enriqueherrera9550 2 ай бұрын
I think i will wait a couple of years to buy it and let rich people pay for the depreciation so i can enjoy it. Thanks rich people
@r3games1985
@r3games1985 2 ай бұрын
Man you can't get anything on this car without paying extra. Do they charge you for the steering wheel?
@umarzia1151
@umarzia1151 2 ай бұрын
Looking to get one when it goes under 100k. AT THIS MSRP YOU CAN POTENTIALLY GET A GT3. in what world would anyone choose that over an EV and this at that
@DurzoBlunts
@DurzoBlunts 2 ай бұрын
Used they're half MSRP value, fastest depreciating platform they've made
@johntrussell7228
@johntrussell7228 2 ай бұрын
$175,000!!!! Completely insane.
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763 2 ай бұрын
Welcome to the big league Russ
@HARRYP0TTXR
@HARRYP0TTXR 2 ай бұрын
So clean 😮‍💨🔥
@dougholmes6631
@dougholmes6631 2 ай бұрын
Looked like a huge panel gap to the right of the trunk. Could have been camera angle but looked like about a 1/2 inch gap. Agree with many other comments the price is ridiculous.
@Vilmir
@Vilmir 14 күн бұрын
This car is longer and wider than my 2015 X5!! Good luck with parking in Europe
@tobecomezero
@tobecomezero 2 ай бұрын
Did I miss the part where you drove it?
@glennlikong7916
@glennlikong7916 2 ай бұрын
Guys! Pick up a used turbo GTS for 45-50% off! I saw one last week for $75k! Still to much for my budget! I can get a 2023 Tesla 3 performance used with 23k miles for $30k🤙🏽
@jeffforbess6802
@jeffforbess6802 2 ай бұрын
Does it have the Tesla charger? Cost doesn’t matter. What’s the lease?
@user-hm3iq6kd4h
@user-hm3iq6kd4h 2 ай бұрын
Can I have the rear Porsche logo WITHOUT red light?....looks bad.... Is this option? (plz yes....T_T)
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq 2 ай бұрын
hm... I almost think the older one was better looking? something is odd about the front spoiler
@TimePlayerOfficial
@TimePlayerOfficial 2 ай бұрын
yeah the headlights are no longer cut into the front, but are flat, losing that depth. They also got rid of the tear drop on the 4s and base model. It's raised higher aswell with the body more straight up rather than diagonally facing down. Basically a Panamera now. Definitely doesn't look like the exotic supercarish it used to before.
@LifeLongLearner-om8jx
@LifeLongLearner-om8jx 2 ай бұрын
I’ll just wait a year for it to be 50% off
@ericnewton5720
@ericnewton5720 2 ай бұрын
That costs almost as much as my first house. Which I sold for a 60k profit after 5 years. Doubt that’ll happen on this. I’m trying to figure out if they just like only selling 4k vehicles per year?
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 2 ай бұрын
Porsche get very poor Range & Efficiency.
@sholaesq
@sholaesq 2 күн бұрын
Why should it. It’s a mass produced car. Think!
@Tothefloor
@Tothefloor 2 ай бұрын
I’m a huge car guy and I can’t tell the difference between this and the previous year at all
@SkippyPB.
@SkippyPB. 2 ай бұрын
That’s the Porsche way. It’s like they slap on some stickers on a 911, call it a limited special edition and charge $125k more. Only Porsche can get away from that.
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 2 ай бұрын
No actual driving? I was looking forward to you doing a 0-60 in that thing!
@zmarko
@zmarko 2 ай бұрын
I think we're up to over $15k in extras. 😆
@anilnair2911
@anilnair2911 2 ай бұрын
Why there is no 2 door taycan coupe.😒
@PsychicMedium4747
@PsychicMedium4747 2 ай бұрын
Wow you are in Spain ? My favorite European country…
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763 2 ай бұрын
I'd love to meet you in Spain. You can guide me
@kanyao
@kanyao 2 ай бұрын
No sane person buying the 4S trim will spec like this… I spec’ed mine decently equipped and it’s between $145-155K. $175K on 4S is insane.
@Pajaa37
@Pajaa37 2 ай бұрын
sevila??? I only got it after he said Spain!😂😂
@user-gs2ih7bb2b
@user-gs2ih7bb2b 2 ай бұрын
Ev so heavy. You should add braking figures, lateral g, and tire wear expectations.
@edub8803
@edub8803 2 ай бұрын
I hope there's an option without the cheesy "Porsche" billboard on the back.
@RyansTechReviews29
@RyansTechReviews29 2 ай бұрын
If it was 30k instead of 175k, we can discuss...but I know I aint buying no luxury ev with 30k. Maybe a chevy bolt at best, not even a tesla those things go for 50-60k already
@lplt
@lplt 2 ай бұрын
sevilla is pronounced seh-vee-yah
@PsychicMedium4747
@PsychicMedium4747 2 ай бұрын
You are correct…
@jeffforbess6802
@jeffforbess6802 2 ай бұрын
How do you pronounce vainilla?
@TimePlayerOfficial
@TimePlayerOfficial 2 ай бұрын
did they ruin the front design? it looks different
@earltubbs9998
@earltubbs9998 2 ай бұрын
SAH VEE YAH
@charlesdinwyn7507
@charlesdinwyn7507 2 ай бұрын
$175K? A BMW i5 M60 is $96K. Good luck with that, Porsche!
@SiiCkLyXXAmAZiiNG
@SiiCkLyXXAmAZiiNG 2 ай бұрын
People talking about the high price.. well duh, the manufacturer was never cheap lmao y’all comparing it to wrong German segments, meanwhile taycan is still becoming one of Porsches top consumed cars lol
@DurzoBlunts
@DurzoBlunts 2 ай бұрын
It's the most depreciating value model they've ever produced.
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763 2 ай бұрын
​@@DurzoBluntsthen buy a Kia
@notalkguitarampplug-insrev784
@notalkguitarampplug-insrev784 2 ай бұрын
Frankly at this price I would buy a Tesla Model S plaid AND a model 3 for everyday 😂
@jimmydeneus9681
@jimmydeneus9681 2 ай бұрын
😍😍🙏💯
@Spawn223311
@Spawn223311 2 ай бұрын
The illuminated name in the tail light doesn't look right
@PureEnergi
@PureEnergi 2 ай бұрын
I work at a Porsche dlr. These come in all the time for no heat. They tank in value quickly. Run away.
@Enomojo
@Enomojo 20 күн бұрын
EV cars won’t last that battery gonna cost more to replace than the car essentially requiring you to purchase another one
@pgilb70
@pgilb70 2 ай бұрын
What? No drive?
@leonchen89
@leonchen89 2 ай бұрын
No need. All EV drive the same.
@mjkwon2843
@mjkwon2843 Ай бұрын
I can't understand the style of the seat color mixture.. previous one is better
@fj717
@fj717 2 ай бұрын
Not sure if innovative, correct me if I'm wrong, this suspension trick was introduced by Audi, and asking 7K for this silly feature is absurd, imo. 😭
@Thebusdriverandgamermorefan790
@Thebusdriverandgamermorefan790 2 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness, This is my only EV can buy.
@BornRiders
@BornRiders 7 күн бұрын
What happen, why didn't you drive this porsche?
@monchoglu
@monchoglu 2 ай бұрын
The price is insane, Porsche is getting absurd.
@johnblack4915
@johnblack4915 2 ай бұрын
Get ur money 💰 up you shouldn't have to worry bout price 😊
@monchoglu
@monchoglu 2 ай бұрын
@@johnblack4915 No matter how much money I got, I pay for products that worth the price
@xpivelx
@xpivelx 2 ай бұрын
Since when they're not? lmao
@FrankGallagherr
@FrankGallagherr 2 ай бұрын
Tesla is the best car company ever! No gas stations, No oil changes, No smog check, No corrupt dealership, No catalytic converter and as fast as a $650,000 Ferrari
@MrVireon
@MrVireon 10 күн бұрын
These looks like the Xiaomi
@markderosa5242
@markderosa5242 2 ай бұрын
I4 M50, more power, similar range, 100k cheaper.
@Pajaa37
@Pajaa37 2 ай бұрын
16:09 and ears…? unless using headphones it’s still pretty dangerous…
@simonmorty8344
@simonmorty8344 2 ай бұрын
That price is crazy! At that price wait a while and get a Lucid Sapphire. Better range, hypercar acceleration and i think more luxury, style etc
@SkippyPB.
@SkippyPB. 2 ай бұрын
It’s a $175k appliance. $50k in a few years
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763 2 ай бұрын
Skippy 🤡
@Gavin-qh7li
@Gavin-qh7li Ай бұрын
​@@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZ2Jopd91dHXh4E.htmlfeature=shared Whatever Jackie
@Gavin-qh7li
@Gavin-qh7li Ай бұрын
​@@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763 that example is after ONE YEAR. WHOS DA CLOWN JACK 0FF
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763 Ай бұрын
@@Gavin-qh7li Are you a bit touched, Gavin? 🤤
@stevenbenton2061
@stevenbenton2061 Ай бұрын
“Se-vi-le,” Spain!?! Really!
@shanewilfon6860
@shanewilfon6860 2 ай бұрын
I'll wait and pick it up next year for 40k😂
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763 2 ай бұрын
You'll be riding the bus, next year
@Gavin-qh7li
@Gavin-qh7li Ай бұрын
​@@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZ2Jopd91dHXh4E.htmlfeature=shared This one is ONE Year old and he can only get $44000 for his.
@Gavin-qh7li
@Gavin-qh7li Ай бұрын
​@@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763A Bus would cost more you clown
@shanewilfon6860
@shanewilfon6860 2 ай бұрын
Just buy a tesla. More reliable. Less depreciation and most importantly the super charger network and advanced tech and updates monthly. Who cares what is looks like. All evs are the same
@bgc200
@bgc200 2 ай бұрын
Spoken like a true brokie
@vindevhunta4905
@vindevhunta4905 2 ай бұрын
Not a EV fan But this is the very best looking one .. Tesla who
@joshuaf5515
@joshuaf5515 2 ай бұрын
Agreed and they handle better than Tesla
@adampritchard7182
@adampritchard7182 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful. Only bad thing is it’s electric
@Luminor513
@Luminor513 Ай бұрын
Porsche has completely lost their minds on pricing. All EVs depreciate fast, these will be no exception. Lease otherwise buyer beware.
@DurzoBlunts
@DurzoBlunts 2 ай бұрын
Maybe itll sink a ship while being delivered across the ocean. 😂
@user-jm9ep3zp5g
@user-jm9ep3zp5g 2 ай бұрын
just get the IONIQ N
@jimmydeneus9681
@jimmydeneus9681 2 ай бұрын
@porshe
@galactictomato1434
@galactictomato1434 2 ай бұрын
I totally disagree, that keyfob is way too big.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 2 ай бұрын
Keyfob not needed DELETE.
@iashakezula
@iashakezula 2 ай бұрын
Xiaomi copied their design , the Xiaomi SU7 .. I guess people might buy that one instead 🤔
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 2 ай бұрын
TESLA model S will OUTSELL su7
@gerry9306
@gerry9306 2 ай бұрын
I'll wait for a reliable Lexus EV. Sorry Naveen
@user-qg2tl3jk9z
@user-qg2tl3jk9z 2 ай бұрын
More like an electric Panamera
@chuchum3
@chuchum3 2 ай бұрын
$175k but slower to 60 and lower top speed then the $50K Tesla Model 3? Pass
@tonyn3227
@tonyn3227 2 ай бұрын
look at price tag , my god. rich know how to live good. not for peasants
@stevek9854
@stevek9854 2 ай бұрын
So low horse power, So low miles/charge So low Speed for 0 to 60 So high price So good looking so, you are paying $100,000 extra for the look. So,,,,, expensive. So... not smart Why would anyone buy this car???😢
@zmarko
@zmarko 2 ай бұрын
$175k 🤣 🤣 🤣
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763
@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763 2 ай бұрын
Get a second job boy
@fredricgrethel1717
@fredricgrethel1717 Ай бұрын
Way overpriced, but a wonderful vehicle. Too bad
@briantep458
@briantep458 2 ай бұрын
i will pick one up in three years for 50k
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