Glad you enjoy it! :D

The ptr runes are so undercooked in general. If they released the phase with these runes as is this would be very troubling

It’s definitely been a weird one for paladin since phase 2

The thing is that they aren't touching core talents so paladin is fundamentaly broken and incomplete . Their runes aren't improving the class. They are making it work.

I know right, it's about dam time xD, I think they will be eating very gooood in P4

Recount is what is used here and works fine on the PTR!

The ret rotation going into P4 before getting 6pc T1 primarily looks to twist every auto, using a filler inbetween autos (CS/DS/Exo) and judge every 3rd twist for a "judge twist" to get 2 judgements off. With this playstyle there is no macro that can be made that'll be one button, although I wouldn't recommend using a 1 button macro, if you really wanted to, there was a wotlk one button cast sequence macro that you could find which will just cycle through the next available spell but it would need to be slightly altered because it doesn't account for classic seal and judgements

@@DeeceTV seal twisting is so annoying. id rather the exorcism build was still good. At least something happens when you press buttons. seals feel like raptor strike and heroic strike in that you have to wait for auto attacks which is annoying.

Mid at Best.

Hopefully very soon :)

Yeah it still does, it’s no longer a rune though and will be a skill book

I don't think the stats on the pieces are correct yet, as they aren't finalized

@@DeeceTV i hope they change the stats to useful ones

Becose they give you healing tier bonus and remouve the healing in seath of light.

I was honestly kind of surprised that improved sanc wasn’t changed in any way, like a skill book of some sorts

Going to be interesting to find out!

They've already said activating a third seal will clear all current seals so only two seals allowed

Because they want to keep certain things the same. Shamans stay horde and paladins stay alliance.

It makes a lot of sense, but is mostly ret paladin related I think. You still gain 10% 1h dmg from prot tree, so it's not as much of a nerf, and prot pala threat is going to increase tremendously with how well we will scale with block value (200% to holy shield damage, 30% to blessing of sanctuary damage and of course shield of the righteous as well). It felt weird that the best strategy for ret paladins as soon as you had 2 or more targets was to put on a 1hander and use HotR, but that is not going to be the case anymore. I really hope that consecration and divine storm is going to be enough for ret paladins to not fall behind on cleave and aoe fights, but I have my doubts. Would have loved to see HotR be usable with 2handers as well.

It was honestly the right choice to make because at the end of the day, a tanks job isn't to do DPS, it's to keep threat and stay alive. This fixes the part where they we're doing too much damage without changing their threat output and also it fixes the annoyance for rets to have to do stupid shit to stay competitive in cleave. Plus when it comes to aoe in the future when tanks get the 6pc T1, they'll probably do more damage than HoTR would ever do anyway

​@@DeeceTV Have you seen Gladiator spec DPS in Sunken Temple? I want Retribution to do well. Instead of asking to nerf Hammer of the Righteous (HoTR), you Retribution guys should ask for a buff to Divine Storm. The DPS that Protection was doing wasn't just because of HoTR but also due to Exorcism procs. PvE is not the only part of the game. Now the damage of HoTR in PvP is absurd, hitting for 150 damage, while we have Shamans throwing fire bolts from 40 yards away that hit for 2500.It's sad and totally unfair to prot pallies that only retribution paladins asked for nerf to HoTR.

@@valorf666 But you are prot paladin, you are not supposed to have fun. kekw

​@@valorf666Glad stance isn't technically a tank, they actually have reduced threat and Increased DMG taken, glad tanking is basically just fury tanking with a shield

and if your opponent uses engineering as well... it made little to no difference. It has to come from the class toolkit.

I'm so happy now that prot is looking like it's gonna be a real spec again though, probably not until the 6pc T1 but it'll be nice to see prots going into the prot tree again!

@@DeeceTV I happy too, but I think they are taking out too much dmg, for prot as for retri. Warriors already pumping 3K as tanks, do they get any nerfs ?

Yeah they should nerf all tank damage from every spec, no tank should be consistently over pure DPS specs

Yes it does. The problem is that bosses str and ap only accounts for like 5-10% of the dmg they do

@@Brat2513 negligible

I remember vindicator in ph1 didnt work on bosses. Havent checked in those lastest phases.