MAKING OUR SELF BUILD FUTURE PROOF - Ducting while we can!

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MAKING OUR SELF BUILD FUTURE PROOF - Ducting while we can!

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4 ай бұрын

Big Barn Build 010 - Time to start ducting supplies and future utilities in and around the barn.
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@dannymurphy1779 4 ай бұрын

The intro 3D sequence is really wonderful guys, kudos to the creator.

@Tyblubearboy 4 ай бұрын

Love to see Maggie getting some love at the end of the video bless her

@mandyleeson1 4 ай бұрын

👍🏼

@samstainer2288 4 ай бұрын

This channel is so good had lots to offer. Love the fact they have had renovation and now new build. Plus also have the farm channel love it. Well done Tim and Jo. Thanks

@TheRestorationCouple 4 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

@bertbergers9171 4 ай бұрын

Tim, it’s late for this trench, but when I build a cabin with my uncle in his back yard we ran an extra empty 30 mm conduit for ethernet, cable TV or whatever low voltage you ever would want to run (by now it even could be fiberglass cable) shielded from the mains supply in the same trench where we had sewer, gas, water and electric to and from that cabin. I am still really proud of what we build then.

@footplate0 4 ай бұрын

The same old same old isn't just the same old..... its life and you are showing us part of your life for which I am grateful. Thank you for allowing us to see just what it takes to do what your doing and boy is that a big do list! I did wonder just how things were going to go after the workshop and you haven't disappointed me, in fact you have blown me away with your grit and determination to get things done. I am too old to do any of what your doing these days but I still remember projects (much smaller) that are bits of what you have done and will do. One thing I have found is that when you pull a cable through, that is the time to pull your other rope at the same time. This way the cable and rope will lie flat alongside each other instead of coiling around each other. Thanks for posting and good luck.

@daviddarnell8898 4 ай бұрын

Your inspector I think was the Greatest Of All Time.

@mikepeel5509 4 ай бұрын

The frustration was real with the baby spade- hitting every lump in the pile- well done not swearing😂. Loving the work nice to see progress

@TheRestorationCouple 4 ай бұрын

😂 you noticed!

@rogergregory5981 4 ай бұрын

Tip when you pull any cable's through the ducts pull another blue rope through with it, so you have a rope left in every duct

@JohnR31415 4 ай бұрын

They pulled through the original cord.

@handle1196 4 ай бұрын

Whats that for, in case you want a second cable?

@TheRestorationCouple 4 ай бұрын

Yeah we did just that albeit the black one we retained. 👍

@Scifi949 4 ай бұрын

If you tie a small bit of plastic to the end of a light rope (or brickie string line) Tape a hose of a decent vacuum to the other end of the conduit. The bit of plastic acts like a balloon. It creates a blockage and increases the pressure. Sucks the rope up the conduit. We use it to pull cable up inground conduits all the time. Works at least 50m.

@Dannyp8038 4 ай бұрын

Like the intro 👍

@jacksrus 4 ай бұрын

Sooooo many plates spinning, your head must be everywhere. Good to see you've got some help with Tom and someone to have some brain storming and banter with. Nearly finished our project. Insignificant compared to yours but still a relief. Love what your doing.

@phildxyz 4 ай бұрын

We've had a Bio-pure treatment system running for the last 10 years - very happy with it. Make sure it's anchored in concrete as I've heard stories of them rising to the surface when ground water levels are high!

@YvetteWilliams-dx2kk 4 ай бұрын

Hi wondering what size bio tank you have and for how many people please were seriously considering installing the bio pure range. Do you have any tips too share Thank you

@phildxyz 4 ай бұрын

@@YvetteWilliams-dx2kk Hi Yvette, we have a 5 bedroom house, although usually only three people here. I think we have a bio-pure 2 for 1-7 people. Because of the level of our old drainage field which was reused (from an old septic tank) we needed to have a pumped outlet unit. The pump did fail after about 7 years, but was easy to replace. If you can arrange gravity drainage to a drainage field or ditch, this is best, as no pump to go wrong and the only power used is for the air blower. The only noise is from the air blower - I think ours is a diaphragm unit but you can also get a piston one - I think the diaphragm one was quieter, but check with your supplier - obviously less important if it's not near the house. It's recommended to have it emptied occasionally to stop grit etc building up in it. Think Bio-pure say every three years, the people who empty it every year and our installer said not more often than every two years. That's what we do. There is no smell and we have been very pleased with it - pretty much fit and forget.

@YvetteWilliams-dx2kk 4 ай бұрын

@@phildxyz hi there thank you soo much for all you're info will bear all what you wrote in mind. THANK YOU for taking the time so helpful.

@JL-hn6hi 4 ай бұрын

Yay! It’ll be so great to have another smart pair of hands working. Onward!

@nicksimmons7234 4 ай бұрын

You should be looking at geothermal heating and hoping to get someone to sponsor a drill or dig up a field next to the barn. With that big slab to heat it will save you thousands in the long run.

@TheRestorationCouple 4 ай бұрын

Our heat demand wouldn’t really justify the install cost although we have looked into it. The UFH will be down specced as it is due to the output needing to be lower than normal.

@oldhousediy 4 ай бұрын

Great intro with the 3D model 👍🏻

@inh415 4 ай бұрын

Power, data and water ducts running everywhere you can. Ducting is cheep compaird to digging up your finished drive way in the future. Im about half way through installing about 300m of each between my old farm buildings. Also install 2 levels of waning tape about 300 and 600 down (assuming duct around 1m deep) and dont be shy about running multiple lines at each level. The warning tape is surprisingly hard to see when digging across wet ground. Just a few weeks ago a friend hit and tugged a incoming 3phase supply that he installed a few years prior even knowing approximately where it was as he installed it and was carefuling. Tape was next to invisible.

@vaalrus 4 ай бұрын

While we have a dedicated (large plate) vibrating trench compactor to put on the digger, we also have a foot that we can put on the breaker, so it can compact in smaller spaces. (bonus: On the underside of the compaction foot, we built a cup that will fit on a post, and we can use the breaker as a post-pounder.)

@protectiongeek 4 ай бұрын

In terms of your futureproofing approach, Tim, I'm assuming that your electrician is keeping an eye on just how long these distribution cables are and the loads you expect to connect to them eventually. I don't know, of course, but I get the impression that some of the cable runs are quite long for the size of the cable (maybe 25 sq mm conductor, 3-phase?). Given the size of your new build and your mentioning of things like EV chargers, then voltage drop could become an issue. I'm sure you're on top of things as you usually are.

@TheRestorationCouple 4 ай бұрын

I think the main 3 phase cable is significantly larger than 25. That is just a supply to the cabin which will eventually just become a 10-12m length to possible car charging. Voltage has been pretty much consistent throughout the buildings so assume James knows has allowed for all that. 👍

@bertbergers9171 4 ай бұрын

Ow and I am not sure if you mentioned it: consider underfloor heating for the whole building, it is real stable heat. BUT if you go that route take pictures of all the loops prior to covering it all up, you will thank your self for taking the time now, whenever you start anything where you would still into your floor. Thanks for another fun video!

@sharonmc5192 4 ай бұрын

I do love how Maggie is always right in the thick of things like a little foreman (forewoman) ❤

@pumpkinhead456 4 ай бұрын

Digging channels too deep made me think - you're in an ideal position for a ground source heat pump.

@LegSpinna 4 ай бұрын

17:40 The lambs playing together in the background 😀

@cliveadams4538 4 ай бұрын

Hi Tim we've been in our place for ten years now (a small holding) and we have a Kingspan Klargester system that apart from a few minor issues works fine.

@_Steven_S 4 ай бұрын

When laying duct limit change of direction to one sweeping curve in a single run. Pulling additional cables through an S-bend can cause damage to the cables if existing cables are twisted/the draw rope is twisted around existing cables. Also bung the ends so wildlife doesn't make themselves at home 🙂

@over-engineered 4 ай бұрын

I pull a lot of cables and Fibre into ducts, always keep ducts as straight and level as possible, makes for much less friction when pulling. Also smooth bore is much better.

@inh415 4 ай бұрын

It is smooth inside. Twinwall ducting.

@over-engineered 4 ай бұрын

@@inh415 yes I noticed it was twin wall. I should have said ridged smooth bore is much better.

@Shane_O 4 ай бұрын

A few external service tips: Check for derating of LV cables for below ground cable runs. Allow for LV cabling and space for an external LV diesel generator ( just in case)… Comms cabling below 90m minimum CAT 6A. Lots of cable ducting and manholes out to boundary if you can. Free drain any external manholes. Fibre cable from the boundary to your comms incomer Have (and allow for) access to drainage Roding points. VERY IMPORTANT! Label all cables at source and termination point plus inside the cable manholes. ( you will forget what they are for in a few years… guaranteed) Allow for Wired boundary security devices. CCTV. Lighting etc. Lots more I’m sure….but that’s it for now

@54mgtf22 4 ай бұрын

Wow. Your home design is amazing.

@StaceyOfficialCollins 4 ай бұрын

Duct tape may not fix everything, but ducting sure seems to be the way to a future-proof barn!

@annaviola3392 4 ай бұрын

Ahh loved seeing a sweet hug with your mate Maggie

@jimgeelan5949 4 ай бұрын

Ya i was listening to all you said at the end of the video but couldn’t take my eyes off the lambs in the back ground 😊

@sheltom6896 4 ай бұрын

Enjoying all the videos and really pleased for you guys finally getting the planning permission BUT have you got a video showing a plan view of all your buildings or can you do one so I can get my bearings on the project? Like a drone shot would be awesome. Good luck with the rest of the build mate

@1000gready 4 ай бұрын

We've got a Graf treatment plant. Can't complain. I like fact no power to the tank, just compressed air.

@rabbit9696 3 ай бұрын

Just been catching up with progress. When designing anything climate related e.g. storm drainage, roof loading, do not work to BS or EN standards as many were written without climate change in mind (>10yrs ago) - go above and beyond if this is your forever house. You won't regret it in the long run.

@briancollis9352 3 ай бұрын

It may be too late but if you are installing EV charging it would be a good idea to take over a Cat 5 cable so that the charge point can get onto the internet for remote switching or have an external wifi point on the main building that would reach the chargers.

@christagg7570 4 ай бұрын

You can never pull too many blue ropes!! And make those labels permanent

@vaalrus 4 ай бұрын

Modern gear, while I love it, is sometimes just a little too operator friendly. Previous to my current track loader with fingertip hydraulic controls, the loader control levers were semi-direct to the pressure circuits, and there was feedback pressure on the levers, so operating, while not strenuous, was a significant daily dose of isometric exercise. I used to have significantly more upper body strength than I do now. :)

@gkip1890 4 ай бұрын

New intro!

@happyglampers9053 4 ай бұрын

Biorock ( French), Graf (UK), Kingspan (Klargester). Take a look at Off Grid Scotland he used a system from New Zealand. Then there the Aiden Project. Did I miss the one you did on your cabin? Maybe do a vid with both systems that you have 👍

@philipelliott5821 4 ай бұрын

Will you be harvesting rain water of that large roof. ?? Planning for storage and possibly filtration of water.

@kyledempsey8700 4 ай бұрын

We've been on a Marsh Industries Ensign Ultra (10 person) for about a year now....seems pretty good, I think they ate based in Northampton

@TheRestorationCouple 4 ай бұрын

We have a small Marsh unit for the cabin now actually. 👍

@pjdava 4 ай бұрын

The Restoration Couple, I liked this video because it's awesome!

@grahamburchell1 4 ай бұрын

Pull second blue cabe through now as original draw cords are liable to fray, so a more substantial to future proof.

@jamesboswell7920 4 ай бұрын

Pretty sure car chargers require a separate network cable back to the meter, so having that spare duct should come in handy

@TheRestorationCouple 4 ай бұрын

Perfect, see I knew there was a reason for it! 😂

@wolfkayak9 4 ай бұрын

Duct to your nearest telephone pole if possible to get internet to where you want it (plant room). Can be such a hassle to do in future.

@Quaker-sn5fr 4 ай бұрын

Hello Tim. Not sure where you are but Mark Wildon of Wildon Environmental in Utoxeter is by far best drainage engineer I know. He would tell you not to go with a contentiously aerated tank system which are far cheaper to buy, because the running costs are massive in comparison to say a kleargester. I have been working as an architect for the last twenty years and this is the same advice I have given to all my clients.

@TheRestorationCouple 4 ай бұрын

I’ll take a look thanks. . I believe the units we are looking at now are all mechanical discs rather than air pumps (like the one we use on cabin now).

@grahamburchell1 4 ай бұрын

You canneverhave duct and armoured to deep. You will be surprised how many digger drivers look for warning tape and still hit duct so better to have deeper rather than just at reg level.

@troyboy4345 4 ай бұрын

I would have a dedicated Fibre feed to a server room, that would really future proof all your projects for the whole land ... unless you went Star link of course.

@TheRestorationCouple 4 ай бұрын

We have Starlink now but in time should be able to get a fibre supply.

@alistairwylam5007 4 ай бұрын

Have you considered rainwater harvesting?

@WarHogz 4 ай бұрын

Great video, thanks Tim. How do you stop water getting into the ducting? Or doesn’t it matter?

@TheRestorationCouple 4 ай бұрын

Tape up ends for now but they will be sealed and made rodent proof in the future.

@WarHogz 4 ай бұрын

@@TheRestorationCouple Thanks! I’m doing this exact job this week at my farm so it was a very timely video!

@protectiongeek 4 ай бұрын

Water in ducts is not really a problem for the cable itself as it is designed to be laid direct in the ground, but it may be an issue at the ends of the duct-line if water drains into buildings, of course! In the UK, electricity cable ducts installed by distributors (so, essentially Distribution Network Operators in this context) have to be sealed against ingress of fluids, including gas, by law (Electricity Safety, Quality and Continuity Regulations, regulation 3(4)), so water ingress should be taken care of. There isn't an express requirement in that same regulation for such sealing of ducts which comprise part of the _consumer's_ installation but the same principles apply. These are addressed in the Wiring Regulations (BS7671).

@WarHogz 4 ай бұрын

@@protectiongeek that’s helpful to know, thanks Craig!