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Therm-a-Rest NeoAir UBERLITE Sleeping Pad Review

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@DouglasDuhaime
@DouglasDuhaime 5 жыл бұрын
I love the discussion of the product's family tree in the intro!
@blakew5672
@blakew5672 5 жыл бұрын
Douglas Duhaime Same. Makes me wonder if the budget carbon poles I bought on amazon (by cascade design) are the same family. If so, it explains the quality they bring to the table for only $35
@AndyJarman
@AndyJarman 5 жыл бұрын
Have a look at You Tube channel Broscience. Especially 'Are you even lifting' and 'Is lifting gay'. Couldn't help thinking this was pretty similar.
@roy-ym2xz
@roy-ym2xz 4 жыл бұрын
I think so family tree inform was nice Like it
@TOURduPARK
@TOURduPARK 5 жыл бұрын
Actual review starts at the 9 minute mark?
@danielkutcher5704
@danielkutcher5704 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I skipped ahead. 😉
@frantisekslipka9651
@frantisekslipka9651 3 жыл бұрын
thanks, skipped as well...
@philmcracken6590
@philmcracken6590 5 жыл бұрын
When i was just a puppy in boyscouts i did tons of winter camping with just a closed cell foam pad. I think it was a ridgerest. Was fine
@timrice5342
@timrice5342 5 жыл бұрын
I still use my ridge rest, how ever I am older, so some air cush is nice. I bought an Outdoor labs pad which works. but it is 16 oz. yet also only 40 bucks. Last time out 30 degrees on concrete (yea we cheated the rain and used an empty shelter house. I was too hot so I ended up using my mummy bag unzipped and as a blanket. I was also on the wind side with my tent door open for cold air. I am thinking that a NeoAir Uberlight with a 45 degree Western mountaineering Everlight quilt will get me down to 30 comfortably. so about 1.5 lbs for sleep system. Maybe add a Liner for really cold or even higher temp use only.
@philmcracken6590
@philmcracken6590 5 жыл бұрын
@@timrice5342 thanks for the reply. I always enjoys talkin 2 fellow backpackers and hikers to see what theyre style is like. These days i been usin a thermarest trail pro long. Its heavier than my tent and rather bulky. Wouldnt mind changin that piece of gear next.
@BryceNewbold
@BryceNewbold 5 жыл бұрын
i agree with you. I've used non-insulated pads in the winter many times, often times with a foam pad underneath. Works just fine! Good video!
@christophfuchs4990
@christophfuchs4990 5 жыл бұрын
If you're using another means of insulation it's kinda cheating don't you think - Its like saying my car needs no wheels to get somewhere and then putting it on a truck to prove your point 😉- or in other words: If you additionally insulate your non-insulated pad - it is no longer non-insulated! And yes, it doesn't really matter where the insulation comes from as long as you have it - but you still have to carry it additionally.
@jh264gp
@jh264gp 5 жыл бұрын
What is your backpack model? really cool~
@pokey5428
@pokey5428 3 жыл бұрын
The Uberlite is a great pad--when it holds air. It's prone to leak, and when it does, you are going to be miserable. My Uberlite gave out on me on the first night of a 5-day backpack trip in the Pecos Mountains. I was cold and miserable. Ther-a-Rest "customer service" essentially blamed me--must have been something I did. Thankfully REI gave me a full refund.
@flashmanv3260
@flashmanv3260 5 жыл бұрын
i used an xlite for years before moving to a hammock, it's really is not that noisy. A little bit as you get on and off it, but not when you are sleeping and moving around a little. So I don't see anyone moving to the uberlite because of noise. I do see people taking advantage of how lite it is, very impressive pad. Will be interesting to see the reviews over time as to how well it holds out.
@chrisrioux
@chrisrioux 4 жыл бұрын
So, you can only use the Uberlite in winter if you put an insulating pad under it.. So your total weight is likely more than it would be if you just brought a pad with a higher R-Value.. Excluding the lower noise, what's the point?
@alfred1925
@alfred1925 3 жыл бұрын
I would say this - if you only rely on a higher R rated pad and it breaks in winter, you're knackered. Also the ccf protects the air bed. And with the combo you can take just the Uber in summer.
@mrappe51
@mrappe51 5 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these last week and went out 5 days ago with my wife on a 3 day hike. I was delighted with the size/weight . My wife slept on it the first night and I wanted to scream when I heard it. The night was still and I am sure that a couple of other hikers about 150 yds away could easily hear it also. My wife is deaf at night without her hearing aids on so she could not hear it. I used it the second night and it was comfortable enough but I am thinking of getting something else. You can only hear the offending sound when you lay on it and move around. It does not crinkle but sounds almost like a roaring sound
@duncdunc76
@duncdunc76 5 жыл бұрын
Nice informative review! Just found your channel and subbed based on this good review and thumbs up for your local. Looking forward to checking out more of your content. I grew up in Wy and used to live in Pine Haven WY near Keyhole Reservoir up until my college years. Spent many years stomping around the Big Horns and Wind Rivers and miss living in WY now that I'm in the mid west. Still have good friends in Casper and try to make it out their at least once a year for now until I can hopefully move back within the next 5 years. 🤞
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
We love Wyoming! Thanks for your comment. It's pretty cool to see new parts of the country. I'm sure we'll move again! But it's really fun exploring new territory here.
@BackpackingVideos
@BackpackingVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Any issues two years later? Has it been holding up long term?
@DrJosh2
@DrJosh2 3 жыл бұрын
Wondering the same here…
@garyo4456
@garyo4456 5 жыл бұрын
Erik Normark uses his blowup pad on ground cloth, then ZLite pad and then a closed cell pad, (like a light yoga pad) on top of that...then his sleeping bag. Usually all on top of snow in the Swedish wilderness! Makes sense to steer clear of the cold air in a blowup mattress! Even a XTherm! Now...I’m searching for the large, wide yoga type pad....that’s lightweight! Any suggestions out there??
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great tip. I'm experimenting with this right now. ^rj
@markcummings6856
@markcummings6856 4 жыл бұрын
At first, sounds interesting- steering clear of the cold air. But, if the pad is offering a R-3.2, that is R-3.2, no matter the air. Don’t think it matter? And in the world of insulation, it is thought to have your most strongest defense nearest the heat source (body). On another note, air gaps, spaces, are necessary for insulative processes to take place.
@ferrellmoultrie9650
@ferrellmoultrie9650 4 жыл бұрын
After reading this review last winter, I purchased and attempted to use the Uberlite on my AT thru-hike (3rd trek of full AT). Results were not pretty .. 1) after about 700 miles, the welded seam around the valve blew out and the pad went flat. Wasn't fixable using a patch and Therm-a-Rest agreed to send a replacement to my home but it would take a week or two (ugh). My wife expressed me an older pad and I continued hiking. About 3 weeks later, I finally found time to call them again since I'd not received notice of shipment and they said, oh, we're out of stock for replacements, it will probably be another 4-6 weeks before we can replace your pad. Gee - thanks. Since I'd bought the pad at REI, I called them and they expressed me a replacement and let my wife drop the dead pad at the store back home. Points for REI, complete loss of confidence in Therm-a-Rest. 2) after roughly another 700 miles, the internal (horizontal) welded seams inside the pad broke free and the pad suffered an aneurysm, looking like a snake that had swallowed a largish animal whole. It held air but I couldn't sleep on it with the bulge. Remembering previous history, I didn't even call Therm-a-Rest, just shipped the pad back to REI for store credit. Wonderful outfitter in Lexington, VA, (Walkabout Outfitter) not only had an Xlite in stock for me to purchase but brought it about 16 miles to a road crossing and then shuttled me to nearby town for mail pickup and shopping. Awesome. The Xlite has worked well, no further pad failures. Observation 1) The fabric on the Uberlite seems reasonably tough - I didn't manage to puncture it. The process / quality control / weld technology for that pad/fabric isn't acceptable. Two failures in 1400 miles is two too many. Not having any customer service / product replacement availability for a thru hiker (or, really for anyone) is also unacceptable. Observation 2) When I look around now, I see that lots of retailers no longer carry any Therm-a-Rest products, or just carry the Uberlite. (Can't find the Xtherm or the Xlite at REI, etc.) Is this plus the customer service failures indicative of some broader issue with Therm-a-Rest - maybe others are having quality issues - maybe they won't be around to produce bad product much longer? Anyone have any scoop on the brand issues / changes?
@wolfeadventures
@wolfeadventures 3 жыл бұрын
Has it held up well?
@felipecastro1127
@felipecastro1127 3 жыл бұрын
I am sorry I've watched the entire video & thought about the information but I don't understand the reasoning behind favoring the UberLite + Z Lite combo over the use of an XTherm or XLite depending on the season (winter or spring & fall). Other than noise reduction there seems to be no advantage since the combo increases both the total weight & bulk as well as lowering the overall R-Value of the sleeping pad system when compared to the XTherm or XLite. What I am missing? Thank you. I always enjoy your videos them challenge me to think.
@frstesiste7670
@frstesiste7670 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what his reasons are, but I prefer a thinner inflatable mattress + a foam pad to a thicker inflatable one for several reasons (in random order) when camping on snow. - I can use the foam pad during the day to sit on or when digging a snow cave. Extremely useful and works much better than just a sit pad. It can even give some protection against wind on breaks. - It's an extra security if the inflatable pad start leaking (I spend almost a week once on snow on a slowly leaking Thermarest, it leaked so slowly that I didn't find the problem before the trip) - I've found that it's easy to get the Thermarest damp on the underside on multiple day trips in snow, even inside a tent. The problem builds up over several nights and a foam pad reduce/eliminate the problem.
@MstrRo1
@MstrRo1 5 жыл бұрын
Nice three day winter kit review. thanks for sharing.
@varathro
@varathro 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great review! I have two questions. 1) how do you adapt the Snozel to attach to your thermarest. 2) I've never heard of ski shoes before. Can you provide a little more information? Thanks!
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
No adaptation needed, although the fit is a little tight. I solved this by heating up the pump bag fitting over a flame a little so it was soft, then fitted it over the t-rest nozzle, and then let it cool. Fits much better now, except when it's really cold out. Ski shoes / trekking skis - check out my posts here (instagram.com/p/BsZVwO7FDLk/?) and here (backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/whats-up-with-trekking-skis/#post-3572869). I use these: goo.gl/BJiNuJ (^rj)
@varathro
@varathro 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@l2p58
@l2p58 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly my uberlite 2020 version was leaking air out of the box, very disappointing at almost 300 cad. I’ll exchange it and give it an other try since it’s the lightest on the market. The new valve is better but still so so compare to the Nemo valve and pump sack of the Nemo. The pump sack of the Thermarest is loose on the valve on both model that I have xtherm and Uber light and the pump sacks doesn’t close so well, again compare to the Nemo tensor (which is heavier, but more confortable).
@jackiehorn3724
@jackiehorn3724 5 жыл бұрын
would taking one of the emergency silver rescue blankets , weigh nothing, help to increase the r value for cold nights? For instance laying it on the ground, or on top of the air mattress? I know it would be noisy on a cold night, but if it works it is no weight increase, and better than being really cold.
@markcummings6856
@markcummings6856 4 жыл бұрын
Jackie Horn Absolutely, it would. Essentially, that is exactly what is inside the pads. Place nearest to body (on top of pad)
@southface06
@southface06 3 жыл бұрын
Probably no effect: heat is dissipated through conduction, convection, and radiation. A silver rescue blanket works by reflecting radiation, but without some air between your body and the blanket, conduction will dominate and dissipate the heat through the blanket. The reason it works within the pad is that the reflecting components are suspended in the air.
@TK-cl1jm
@TK-cl1jm 5 жыл бұрын
Wonder how this compares to the S2S Etherlight XT. Love mine!
@muskadobbit
@muskadobbit 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely some skill involved - like learning to not move during the night. I keep rolling off - clearly I'm a newbie.
@freewill51
@freewill51 4 жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad. I feel like I am on an exercise program after about one hour. Raise butt, move pad to right, raise feet, move pad under them, raise butt again, move pad towards head, raise butt again and move back to center of tent. Sleep for 1 hour and repeat.
@friarrodneyburnap4336
@friarrodneyburnap4336 5 жыл бұрын
Add a layer of cardboard ...for added warmth doesn't cost anything cardboard can be ultra light...
@underdgk9
@underdgk9 Жыл бұрын
Who makes the down pullover?
@TG-mw5gg
@TG-mw5gg 3 жыл бұрын
The ccf is 14 oz before cutting. The Uber lite is 8 oz. that’s substantially heavier than xtherm. What would the benefit then be aside from a quieter pad?
@alfred1925
@alfred1925 3 жыл бұрын
If you rely just on an inflatable in the winter and it breaks you're knackered. Also in the summer you can just use the Uberlite.
@KaseChong
@KaseChong 4 жыл бұрын
you mention that it takes a lot of know-howl to get the most out of a sleep system. is there a benefit of using the z-rest with the reflective side facing down? thanks!
@maxoblivion
@maxoblivion 2 жыл бұрын
Great review from a real expert. Refreshing.
@stuartboyd6340
@stuartboyd6340 5 жыл бұрын
I still dont understand the point of using a tarp when you can use a lightweight tent like the msr hubba which is probably lighter ,warmer , drier ,easier to put up , the z mat is to bulky so I would incorporate everything into one by buying the x therm or x light
@turkeyphant
@turkeyphant 2 жыл бұрын
Does it not come with a pumpsack? And what adapter did you use for the Exped bag?
@roy-ym2xz
@roy-ym2xz 4 жыл бұрын
Mate!!! Let me know your that backpack name!!!
@keithterry2051
@keithterry2051 5 жыл бұрын
dang! 14 lbs for winter camping....my Big 4 right now weigh that much. Time for my gear to go on a diet!
@KrizAkoni
@KrizAkoni 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting pad! I've gathered a collection of these from Therm-a-Rest and recently settled on the Women's XLite with an R3.9. It's interesting the Women's one, for the same weight, is only slightly shorter, less expensive, and has better R value than the XLite. For winter, I carry a ZLite anyway in case I spring a leak. I may try this one and see how it does. I'd love to save the 3.5 oz and some space if i could. I have an XTherm that my wife uses (she sleeps cold) and it's overkill for me. Great review! Got a link to that pump sack? I'm kinda digging it. :)
@varathro
@varathro 5 жыл бұрын
I belive the pump sack is an Exped Snozel. Not sure how it's been modified to fit a thermarest though.
@dcaudwell
@dcaudwell 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed! Please let us know! I use a cut piece from a rubber glove to connect my Exped Schnozzel to my Neoair, but it's not ideal.
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, a number of our forum members report using women's pads as well, for the same reasons. Here's a link to the pump bag: goo.gl/ebGpFT
@zbeekerm
@zbeekerm 5 жыл бұрын
Not to be “that guy” but, do you know if you can trim it to 3/4 or 2/3 length and iron it closed like you can with the X-lite? Asking for a friend 😇😈
@friarrodneyburnap4336
@friarrodneyburnap4336 5 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the Jacks R Better High Sierra Sniveller (0F) Quilt?
@matthewbouvet2886
@matthewbouvet2886 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reviewing
@nigellack2576
@nigellack2576 3 жыл бұрын
Superb and detailed review. Thank yoy.
@DanBecker
@DanBecker 5 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan!
@darrenleroy
@darrenleroy 5 жыл бұрын
1.26 slurping hot beverage. Necessary? Good review though!
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta fight the La Croix infection on youtube.
@tryreset2446
@tryreset2446 5 жыл бұрын
Backpacking Light *
@barryfullick7981
@barryfullick7981 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your careful and informative review, Without it I would have bought one but have decided that a few extra ounces for better durability are worth carrying, for that and the comfort and convenience of a mat that can be confidently lounged upon outside my tent. Won't need to carry extra extra Gorilla Tape. Gotta love that noisy coffee ! Let's the wildlife know you're awake. Is that a special brand developed for thru' hikers or a Walmart Special ! ? Can we look forward to a detailed review when you've given it a thorough road testing !? Thanks again for the vid, I suspect you saved me a ton of money I can use to travel with.
@longwildernesswalks
@longwildernesswalks 5 жыл бұрын
What puffer jacket are you using? I've been using Marmot and to be honest it's great for casual use but I don't trust it in the back country. Just not enough loft. Would you please share?
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
That red winter jacket is a hooded Helios: snp.link/ea45f7a7
@chrisbenitez6548
@chrisbenitez6548 3 жыл бұрын
@@BackpackingLightUSA just wanted to ask you how warm it is, or rather, how cold you have taken it down to. It is between this and the Volant for me. And I'm guessing Wyoming winters are pretty serious. Thanks!
@plank3000
@plank3000 5 жыл бұрын
What kind of bag is that?
@mforrest1508
@mforrest1508 4 жыл бұрын
not sure why my pack is so heavy... but it is! Peace of mind i suppose
@pakfrd7887
@pakfrd7887 5 жыл бұрын
I have a large rectangular S2S comfort light and it’s amazing but just shy of 2 lbs. I’m looking hard at a large Uber. My concern is I bring my 95lb dog that may step on my pad sometimes. Should I adobos this pad or go with something else?
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
I haven’t let my dog (large lab) near the Uberlite yet! That would be a good test....!
@markcummings6856
@markcummings6856 4 жыл бұрын
Backpacking Light Any update with your dog and Uber yet? Really considering Uber with my Lab as well. Really appreciate your reviews! Top shelf IMO! Happy Trails
@eisvogel8099
@eisvogel8099 4 жыл бұрын
Nemo tensor is less noisy. Yours sounds like a bag of chips.
@nicebopo
@nicebopo 3 жыл бұрын
Nemo tensor all the way.. No need to carry extra pad, keeps me warm in plenty of low temps..just sayin👍🏻😜
@josericardorivera
@josericardorivera 5 жыл бұрын
What´s the air bag you use to inflate the pad?
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
It's a Schnozzel! goo.gl/ebGpFT
@frantisekslipka9651
@frantisekslipka9651 3 жыл бұрын
I really don't understand why you spent 50% of the video speaking about something else than it is in the name of the video. If you name it "My gear" or what so ever, it would be ok and I probably didn't eve start watching it, because I was searching videos FOCUSED on the spoken pad. But I was interested ONLY to the sleeping pad evethough it can be interesteing to watch your gear...
@jordanwalter2336
@jordanwalter2336 5 жыл бұрын
Where are you from in South East Wyoming? Near Laramie?
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we’re in Laramie! How about you?
@jordanwalter2336
@jordanwalter2336 5 жыл бұрын
@@BackpackingLightUSA I am in Laramie as well! Small world!
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
Let’s get together! Msg me on Instagram @bigskyry ^rj
@tlowe
@tlowe 5 жыл бұрын
Who makes that down parka?
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
That's a FF parka (link here: goo.gl/Gm9MeH) - Based on our analysis of loft:weight ratio, it has the highest warmth:weight ratio of any down parka less than 20 oz....
@williamcrowley5506
@williamcrowley5506 5 жыл бұрын
Backpacking Light link is dead
@markcummings6856
@markcummings6856 4 жыл бұрын
Feathered Friends.
@newsnowseattle7653
@newsnowseattle7653 4 жыл бұрын
these pads are so prone to pin holes and air leaks, don't bother!!
@Karen-dq8nw
@Karen-dq8nw 5 жыл бұрын
Why an Ursack in winter?
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
Karen Jensen rodents mainly but moose have been problematic in my home area here in WY. I’ve had food issues with moose on a couple of occasions. ^rj
@betsybarbera9806
@betsybarbera9806 5 жыл бұрын
who makes the waterproof inflation bag to use with Therm-a-rest?
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
It’s this one: snp.link/f4fb97d7
@bouvetoy
@bouvetoy 5 жыл бұрын
@@BackpackingLightUSA How did you get the Schnozzel Pumpbag to inflate the Therm-a-rest? I also have the Schnozzel and it's not compatible. Perhaps they've changed it or you made a custom adapter?
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
Justin LaFrance I soaked the schnozzel coupling in boiling water to soften it, then put it over the t-rest valve and let it cool in place. ^rj
@MrTmax74
@MrTmax74 5 жыл бұрын
Nice review Brother.
@thewildonions
@thewildonions 5 жыл бұрын
What backpack are you using?
@BackpackingLightUSA
@BackpackingLightUSA 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a Mchale Windsauk.
@jurgschupbach3059
@jurgschupbach3059 2 жыл бұрын
Good Pad but Stalkers Sabotage Idiots poke Holes in it
@jurgschupbach3059
@jurgschupbach3059 2 жыл бұрын
Since Exped Flex Mat Plus there is nothing to poke
@fredhubbard7210
@fredhubbard7210 5 жыл бұрын
The best part of this video is the slurping sounds of you indulging yourself with a hot drink. Maybe you can make a whole video of you making eating and drinking sounds... maybe a couple of farts and belches as well.
@NatureBoy711
@NatureBoy711 2 жыл бұрын
uberlite is garbage ! i gave it away !
@taylorelsner6332
@taylorelsner6332 5 жыл бұрын
Also the whole beginning of the video is not needed. Just stick with 2 simple things. Your thought on the product and its stats. No need for an ancestral study on the product.
@justinmartinez5485
@justinmartinez5485 5 жыл бұрын
I actually liked the knowledge- don't like skip forward.... otherwise STFU...
@taylorelsner6332
@taylorelsner6332 5 жыл бұрын
You good? You got that out of your system?
@texmexia49
@texmexia49 5 жыл бұрын
Justin Martinez I agree with what you are saying, just not how you are saying it.
@texmexia49
@texmexia49 5 жыл бұрын
Taylor Elsner, disagree with what you are saying, but like the way you are saying it👍
@aidanhuynh9957
@aidanhuynh9957 5 жыл бұрын
Texmexia49 may be an arbitrator in real life 😉
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