Blue? 100% felt like it would happen anyway, they did her redemption in a reasonable way. She was always the most reasonable and sympathetic Diamond who clearly was going to side with pink lasagna no matter what. Yellow? I'm half and half on this one, even though "don't use your powers on me" got me good. Feel like it should have taken a bit longer with her, but I like how they did handle it for her falling in line so quickly after blue. Blue being yellows weak spot was cute. White? Lmao nawwwwww fam she should absolutely not have been. At least not this quickly. Maybe at the end of season 6, MAYBE.

White Diamond: Stop acting like a child Steven: no u *White Diamond redeemed!*

I don't know... Considering that the show implies they committed mass genocide on more than one occasion, I feel like they're getting off a little too easy.

Fandom: Are blue and yellow siblings or lovers? Alabama: *WHY NOT BOTH*

They aren’t redeemed completely yet. I think it’ll be explored a bit more in Season 6.

Omg let's take one moment to remember how epic Pink Steven's shield was

I think it's more of a starting point of redemption. The first step to fixing a problem is ADMITTING it's a problem. They mainly do that. But now we need to see the Diamonds actively working on said problems. They're villains who need to be shown TRYING to fix things they've done or crimes they've committed against their gems

I just want the lesson of “sometimes you can’t talk to everyone” to come into picture. It’s what I was hoping would happen with white diamond

I'm okay with blue being redeemed I'm tear with yellow being redeemed But white not so much

Blue Diamond's redemption was 100% planted into the overarching storyline since the very beginning, and into her character, and because of that her redemption was very satisfying and felt like something that needed I happen. Yellow's redemption on the other hand did seem a bit more rushed than Blue's, as only a few minutes before her redemption she was still in that same negative headspace. However thinking of the redemption as something Blue drew her towards instead of Steven, makes a lot more sense for her character. Blue was always Yellow's weakness, and she always cared about Blue much more than Rose or Pink Diamond. Therefore her redemption wasn't so bad in the end. Then there's White, the grand and supreme literally head of Homeworld. Since the very mention/showing of the diamonds, it was clear than in some way shape or form, White was significantly better, or more threatening than the other Diamonds. This was shown in her owning the most colonies, her holding the largest colony (Homeworld), her being the largest Diamond, and her being left a mystery by almost every gem up until she was ready to be shown. I felt like White's character was extremely interesting since the first moment you got a glimpse of her; everything from her design to her personality was completely unlike anything we've seen up until that point. It's not that her redemption doesn't make sense, because it does. It's just that for such an extremely powerful character in size, ranking, mind, and just raw power to be rendered harmless after just being "embarrassed" just seemed like a huge waste of all that build up. Idk, it's just a tiny bit disappointing when you think about it. Still loved Change Your Mind though.

sometimes i forget that this is a “children’s show” on a network that caters to children. and that’s where majority of my disappointment stems from honestly. su would have soooo much potential if it was stemmed towards a more mature audience. i enjoy the show as it is though, just a bit predictable.

You need to remember: the redemption arc isn’t over. I’m a writer, and I can assure you that a redemption isn’t over when they realize what they’ve done is wrong. It’s over when they not only have come to terms, but try their absolute hardest to fix what they have done. Personally, I think White Diamond’s redemption is only beginning. Blue is like 3/4 there and Yellow is 1/2 finished. They both have come to terms and Blue has done a little bit to help, while Yellow did too but really only assisted Blue. So, yeah. I don’t think that’s liking or not liking Whites arc is an opinion I can make yet, simply because it’s barely started.

They weren't villains after Reunited. They were just evil family members.

Yes. No. Maybe So.

Killed ton of alien life destroyed tons of planets most of all abused pink diamond her whole life now their redeemed Sounds legit

They're not though. They're not antagonists towards the crystal gems anymore, but theres still thousands and millions of years of their conquest all over the universe. Planets and species wiped out, on top of the fact that theres still a matter of the newly uncorrupted gems and all the shattered gens forced together for the cluster, theres bound to be some left over hate, and I feel like itd be very very weak writing if ALL the gems were just cool with it "oh they're not our enemies anymore and u were pink diamond all along? Ok!" Like, there could be a break of trust from all the gems who just got uncorrupted, so I dont think the diamonds r redeemed right now, rather, they r turning over a new leaf.

Yellow and blue maybe, white was just pushing it even for Steven universe standards

it's less that theyre redeemed, its more that theyre no longer antagonists, no more torment will come stevens way from the diamonds

I think yellow really did care for pink and her happiness, just did not know how bad her misery was until blue made her realize, she broke down after blue had said, “and our pink..” it just took someone like blue to get to her She did say at once “dont you know I miss her too?” Shes showed it before, blue has even comforted her before, yellow is just good at hiding it and moving forward, albeit suffering inside..

White is redeemed, but clearly still problematic. White will need more help, I figure the first few episodes of season 6 will be addressing the problems homeworld has caused and getting the diamonds to see the evil of their colonization. Of course, interspersed with some other stuff. Blue and Yellow will be relatively easy to switch sides on this (maybe more blue than yellow but still) white, on the other hand, will take more time, Blue and Yellow were redeemed, they see the error of their ways, White simply sees she has flaws, she hasn't really addressed them. She sees that Steven is right about it being fine to have flaws, or at least, she wants to. However, she will have a tough time accepting how big and widespread those flaws really are.

In my opinion the diamonds shouldn't have been redeemed so early. I wish they would have postponed it a bit

I think Steven Universe is afraid of having an actual villain. They need to teach viewers that there are people that are evil and some things won't change that. They sorta did that with Kevin, but they need someone big to illustrate that, which is what K l thought they were going with White Diamond.

11:23 technically a Diamond DID sacrifice themselves to make the ending happen. Pink Diamond. Her sacrifice (to bring Steven into the world) was the catalyst for EVERYTHING.

I really love the part when Yellow said, “Stop using your power on me”.

They shouldve been redeemed but not as quickly. I feel like the Lapis And Amethyst arcs were the only well thought out ones.

I like the diamonds not being evil. It shows how people can change.

If CN had not renewed it for more seasons, and that WERE to be the end, I would still be a little salty. There would still be so many unanswered questions and things to discover, such as: - The chest in Lion's mane - The long awaited Peridot and Lapis fusion (yes I ship Lapidot but even non Lapidot shippers probably really wanna see it too) - Jasper finding out and learning about the story that Rose is Pink, therefore Steven is Pink + Jasper and Amethyst interaction + Jasper and Lapis interaction - What happened to the rest of Pink's court - The bubbled Rose Quartz gems at the zoo (we've never actually seen a real Rose Quartz in the show, let that sink in) - Lars meeting his Mom and Dad since he got abducted + possibly Barb's reaction to Pink Lars - Where will the uncorrupted gems live, and is that corrupted gem that was in the barn shattered? Hopefully not - The off colors exploring earth/possibly visiting Lars' house and parents - Rhodonite and Flourite unfused - Other Peridots - Other Lapis Lazulis - Aquamarine and the Topaz fusion - The Zircons - How did Rose give birth to Steven? Did she turn into him, shapeshifting in a way...? - Why didn't Greg live with the gems in the temple? He could have had a room built for all his things! - Will Steven just live longer than the average human, like say 200 years, or will he live forever like the gems? - Was White Diamond holding homeworld together? - Who created White? We know White probably created the other diamonds, but who created her? Sneople? That's all I can think of for now, tell me what I missed. Anyway, imagine if it ended. We would have never seen most of that. They can't fit everything in the movie after all. Ok I'm done lol uwu

imo, ALL of the diamonds being redeemed is what was truly anticlimactic.

It came from herself and Steven's Roast

Gotta be honest their redemption was handled with a whole lot of laziness. They crush tons of gems and painfully force them to become a Geo-Weapon, have been tyrants of a World-conquering empire for MILLENNIA, and had strict views on gems for just as long and Steven redeems all of them in like a week? Come on. All these shitty towny episodes could’ve been steps towards a thoughtful redemption arc like Peridot’s for the Diamonds. That or keep them evil to save their character.

No. Because if Steven is not Pink, why should they care what he wants? Gems (except White) have no concept of moms, aunts, sisters, or nephews. All they know is that Pink is dead, and her gem is possessed by a preachy fleshling that pretended to be Pink for an ulterior motive. I really wished White stayed a scary villain longer than 5 minutes, instead of throwing a tantrum and was defeated by a stupid comeback line.

It's nice to see the diamonds change their ways after finally opening their eyes for the first time in years. It's amazing to see how each one of the diamonds redeem so differently and how they look at things in another perspective. Steven got through to Blue, Blue got through to Yellow, and White got through to herself, to see their own flaws show them that they aren't perfect as they thought.

Greg needs to talk to Blue about getting Pink Gregnant

Everybody got a chance to redeemed themselves

I partially understand why white was redeemed so fast. It's because her whole tower only needed one really small pink rock to be thrown at it, she didn't need a whole extra 3 or four episodes her arc was 'im the best there's nothing that I'm wrong about" well Steven is Steven and not pink "oh..well I was wrong now I don't know what to think.." that's really it the diamonds reflected off of that fear of white never being wrong and having that stiff control if they ever did actually get to talk to her about how they felt about pink then things could have been different..it was just a matter of her literally getting out of her own head for just a minute!

I suppose White's redemption wasn't that rushed if you look at it from this perspective: No one has ever tried to prove her wrong before. Imagine feeling a sense of righteousness over an accountability of thousands of years only to suddenly have someone put up a good fight and slap you in the face with the the truth 🤷‍♂️

Blue was sadness. Yellow was anger. White was denial. And while she might not have been the loving Older sister/Mother, she did what she thought was the best thing for an empire, do remember, she practically A GOD to gem kind. When pink died, and then came back, White didn't understand something for the first time ever. The answer is all over, "I'm every color of the light" she had feelings, but to feel is to be vulnerable, a flaw... Even the other diamonds are flawed in her eyes, otherwise they wouldn't try so hard to be perfect and get her approval. Yes I agree it might have been too quick, but do remember how old she is, her ability to understand an entirely new existence should be the same.

Corrupted gems were saved, now they gotta figure out how to UNSHATTER GEMS

"Hey yellow that's not nice" "Never thought of it like that RISE AGAINST WHITE DIAMOND"

White Diamond: Stop acting like a child! Steven: *Pulls out Uno reverse card*

Either way. They're all cinnamon rolls. Thank for so many likes 😊

I mean... If the movie villain spooks all the crystal gems in the trailer... Then they might need some very strong back up that could possibly resist its power.

I personally don't mind them being redeemed! I just want to see them actually make up for their mistakes, and actively work towards trying to fix the pain they've caused

To me, Blue Diamond's 'redemption moment' felt more earned than Yellow or White's... mainly bc we saw just how torn she was about Pink's demise. We saw how close they were (Blue mourning at the Zoo, her memories from her Pool), but we also saw the downs of their relationship with her being controlling (the Moon Base Dream, the Flashback Dream in Change Your Mind). Blue was also more easy going of the two Diamonds from glimpses we'd seen (ex. giving her Pearl freedom to draw and make art - and yeah, that still sounds REALLY bad to say 'I gave my slave more freedom to do stuff than other Diamonds, ugh :( ) and her attitude with Pink, appearing to have spent the most time with her in flashbacks, as she was the one who not only commissioned the Zoo - again, still a really bad way to do it - but also allowed Pink to take home organic creatures, and tended to what Blue saw as "her pets" in her absence for 5000+ years (still... still skeevy, ngl) - not to mention how her first reaction to seeing 'Rose Quartz' on Homeworld was to issue a trial. All-in-all, we've seen more of a compassionate side from Blue than from the other Diamonds throughout the entire show. After seeing her grief at losing Pink, and seeing how far she went to help Steven after finding out about Pink's real fate, she's more balanced in her realization. They finally got "Pink Diamond" back after millennia of believing her gone forever - so, when Pink acts the same way as she usually does, and Blue reacts as she usually does, it's more believable to see her realize why Pink left. When Steven asks her, after all this time away from Pink, with years of retrospection and 'what-ifs' to reflect on, "How many times did you lock her in here? How many times did you make her cry?" THAT'S when it hits home just how messed up their version of 'back-to-normal' was. Her immediate reaction to this is to acknowledge that they failed her, that their world and customs failed her if they drove Pink to such extremes to escape them like she did, and try to get Steven and his friends back home. Not to force him to stay or change his mind - just to help him get back to the place where he (as Pink) felt happiest, and loved. That realization, after everything we've seen of Blue, feels more earned BECAUSE we've seen her vulnerable before, even with her views. Even then, it's not so much a redemption as a dawning realization of why, and an acceptance of this truth, for Blue. This doesn't redeem her as much as it reveals to her a glimpse of Homeworld's broken system and how bad it is if it drives someone she loves so far away. It gives her a branch to redeem herself, if she so chooses, but not a total Redemption. Yellow? I'm torn. There was a good place to start with in the Zoo arc by that one moment of weakness in 'What's the Use of Feeling, Blue?' where it shows she's retreated to anger to hide from her pain and grief. But from there, I can't find too many moments of compassion, or cracks that could be used to break through. Her devotion to creating the Cluster, forced-fusion experiments, aren't balanced enough with more vulnerable moments like with Blue - at least, not that I could see here. I liked the idea of her being harder to convince, as well as the idea that she is under extreme pressure to do perfectly under White's standards for Homeworld. I just wish we had gotten to see it more. We see that she's willing to take the fall for "Pink" when they all return to Homeworld to talk to White Diamond, and at least willing to help with the Corrupted Gems on Earth - but the flashbacks, interactions, etc don't show as much of a Yellow pressured to do what she does to please White Diamond. It can be read in between the lines, but even then it's not all there. A harder sell, but not impossible - she clearly does care for her family (given how she takes over for Blue's responsibilities and covers for her when her mourning overtakes her, and is willing to help Steven with the Corrupted Gems). Again, we needed more time here to have it sink in. I think Vox hit the nail on the head for Blue being the tipping point - I just wish we'd had more flashbacks to look in on, like Yellow with White. White Diamond though... while I like the approach they took in Change Your Mind (to get out of her own head, which I actually really like the idea of), there's admittedly a lot of Deux Ex Machina in swaying her over via magical pink dance glow. I agree with Vox 100% here - I think they were going for having White Diamond's certainties being challenged for the first time in thousands of years - someone confronting her with an impossible truth that ISN'T something she organized, fixed, established when she's all knowing like she is - and having THAT be the point that breaks her (takes a Diamond to crack a Diamond, after all, ehehe). Basically the whole 'What happens when an unstoppable force (Love) meets an immovable object (White)? They surrender" situation applied here. I hope that they go into all of the issues with Homeworld in Season 6 in depth.

Garnet: because it’s not shapeshifting it’s fusion Me watching change your mind:Garnet you did it again

I think the Diamonds being redeemed was a good thing, because, it resulted in all of the Corrupted Gems being cured. And we found out that Blue and Yellow were both secretly miserable with having to be cruel and harsh to Pink and Steven and their subjects 😢. White Diamond even gave Steven a small but sincere smile before they left Earth, 😌. Because they learned that trying to make everything perfect and getting rid of everything imperfect only made everything that was really important to them and made them happy go away. It really warmed my heart to see the Diamonds make an effort to become better people 😂☺️.

Blue Diamond's redemption touched me deeply, so I was more than happy when it happened. Her line, "I always thought that you were failing this world, but if you were happier on Earth...then, maybe this world was failing you," brought me to tears. This can be applied to so many people across the globe throughout history -- such as the mass realization that women were treated unfairly, or that slavery was wrong, or how people should be allowed to practice their religion without fear of persecution through a dominated society. I could talk about Yellow's redemption, but I would rather just say that I felt it was rightful because, like Blue, I wanted to see her come around. The only redemption I still struggle with is White's, but your analysis for it definitely shed some light on the subject. Thanks, Vox! At this point, I'm curious to see how exactly Homeworld's society will change because -- let's face it -- NO major society or its rulers changes overnight. This is going to be a lengthy process and a test of patience for everyone involved. Besides, it's not even possible for everyone to change from fearing being shattered for cross-Gem fusion, and then suddenly, that fear is gone the next day. In a perfect world, that could be the case, but in reality (especially when compared to something as prominent as the US nationwide legalization of gay marriage), there will still be people who seek to harm others that go against what they were initially taught to hate. It's horrible that some people still look down upon individuals in such a way despite what laws have changed in their society, but that's a harsh fact of life -- and the best way to combat it is to have people who are willing to stand up for freedom and love, and lead by example for a better tomorrow. Anyways, as always, I love your Crystal Clear videos and wish you guys the best.

Countless People On countless worlds suffered if not flat out died under the diamond authority. You can't just forgive and forget that just because they now call Steven by his proper identity. The one act of pure good they did(helping the other gems) still left their victims irreversibly scared for life. In a persuit of sending their pro LGBT+ message(which is fine) they inadvertently sent another message where you can forgive your abusers easily without recompense or worse, show that you can commit horrid crimes and get away with it because "I'm open minded now" no. The diamonds are monsters and the ONLY person who still recognizes that is bismuth

With Blue Diamond, definitely. She was slowly realizing how much she hurt Pink and understood why Pink and the other gems would betray her, Yellow and White. It was because they were just as miserable as she is. It was apparent that she hated the structure of gem society in the bath scene in familiar. For Yellow, she was a bit more stubborn and always hide her true emotions. Steven pointed out that if you remove everything that is flawed then you would be missing the things that makes you happy. I think Yellow had a moment of realization that she cared for Blue and Pink. She missed Pink a lot which we saw in That Will Be All through the song, What's The Use of Feeling, Blue? Hurting Blue only made her realize that she didn't want to lose her like she lost Pink. Not only that, but the questions she asked in Legs from Here to Homeworld were thrown into her face and hit her with the reality of the abuse that she, Pink and Blue suffered. White's is a little quick, but it does make sense that she finally listened when she saw pink Steven. Her redemption shows that change in people can come from within and doesn't always have to include a person to change you mind. It would be interesting on how much exploration of the diamonds will be touched on Season 6.

I really enjoyed Change Your mind and loved the ending, but I personally am against the Diamonds’ redemption. Even regarding that Steven Universe is a kids’ show, I still think it was too naive. I am from a country that used to be a colony and that also had more than one dictators. In that point of view, redeeming the Diamonds and saying that they were also victims of the system(Blue and Yellow) seems a little... well... they certainly were unhappy but that doesn’t change the fact that they destroyed countless lives. Since the show isn’t over, I am counting on Crewniverse to focus on problems in post-colonial age in the following season.

Them being redeemed made me happy personally. Also They often are called family and the wiki for the episode said Family Dynamic so I see them more as family like sisters basically. Pink as the youngest for how childish she is and her height compared to the others and the other 3 as older sisters. When White realized she wasn't perfect and says she has to be it reminds me of when oldest sibling try to be perfect like perfect grades, good at a lot of things, etc. The Oldest could possibly want everyone to be perfect and don't listen to the others because they think they know what's best. That their word is more important than the others since they are the oldest. I want to say more but I don't know what else to say.

Regarding the diamonds redemption, here’s how I would’ve made it happen. First things first, white is not redeemed in this version. And secondly, I imagine Pink was the diamond of destruction, but her powers managed to grow and develop as she became Rose Quartz. To me, Change Your Mind goes pretty much how it did for the most part. Except, when White tries to pull Steven’s gem out, Steven blacks out before the gem is removed. (I think he blacked out after it was removed) When Steven awakes, he sees White in a yellow bubble. White was poofed, then Yellow bubbled her. Steven asks what happened, and it turns out that he poofed White, turning pink before the fight began, returning to normal once White was poofed, then passing out. Steven doesn’t believe it at first, but the evidence is clear. And he’s terrified of what he can do. The diamonds decided to rule over Homeworld together, being much kinder and far less strict. Steven returns home, and begins to look for another way to heal the corrupted gems.

I'm perfectly happy with Blue being redeemed because the way it was done was through a realization that struck home - that she'd played a key role in driving away someone who was so important to her, and caused not only her own misery for the next few thousand years, but the same misery she suffered through to someone she loved. Blue's the most deeply sentimental of the Diamonds, and I'd think after realizing what she did to both Pink and Steven, she'd be pretty receptive to anything Steven says. Yellow's redemption was tougher for me, but I still really like it. For me, it's less how she made Pink miserable, and more that continuing down her path is going to strip her of everything left in her life that she still draws happiness from. She and Blue very obviously have a close relationship (heh, I thought I was the only one who was totally ambivalent to whether or not it was romantic or platonic, as long as it was deep), and she's clearly struggling with having to fight Blue before Steven interrupts her. And I like the realization that her entire demeanor is formed from stress. It explains a lot in retrospect, the same way That Will Be All explained so much in Message Received. So I 100% agree with your analysis that it's Blue redeeming Yellow, not Steven. The part I'm shakier on is Yellow instantly recognizing Steven's his own person, and being so receptive to the same idea that Blue is - that Pink was suffering under their rules, and that that's actually important. And the part I'm more confused on with Blue is the idea that she knows all Gems are suffering under the regime, not just her and Yellow. Blue is sentimental, but she's also very self-absorbed. We didn't see any clues that either Yellow or Blue actually disagreed with the rule they perpetrated. We don't see the idea that other Gems matter in their worldview. So to that extent, I'm :/, but willing to accept it because the root cause for them switching sides checks out to me, and I do expect Season 6 to reexamine this. White... I'm less convinced. It's less that she's redeemed and more that she just... stops functioning, I guess? And that makes her receptive to whatever Steven says? But then I think the other Diamonds forgive -her- way too fast. Or become comfortable with her way too fast. Seriously, they work up the courage to talk to her and she more or less kills them for disobedience. If Pink Pearl was any indication, she had no plans on letting them go. Steven forgives everyone because that's just who he is, but the Diamonds aren't nearly as pure or kind as him.

As a family, the diamonds are redeemed. White Diamond is the matriarch. She placed tremendous amount of pressure on Blue and Yellow, who were the “mothers” for Pink, the daughter/maiden. The pressure for perfection forced Blue and Yellow to abuse Pink by infantizing her, imprisoning her, and whatever else (like Blue forcing Pink to cry as a way to subdue her). But when Steven pointed out how thos need for perfection created a toxic family based on inpossible standards, they Diamonds listened and believed. That was their redemption. So as a family, yes they are redeemed. That said, they are not yet redeemed for being tyrants. I want the next season to explore the diamonds rebuilding what they can and facing the consequences of what is lost.

Steven was helping them through the stages of grief. White was in deep denial. Yellow was angry. Blue was depressed

I feel like a lot of people are missing something. Human morality was made so we would not destroy ourselves. The gems do not need to worry about aging or reproduction. The Diamonds see all planets as resources and other species the same way we see bugs. We shouldn't push our ethics on an immortal race that has had a completely different path of evolution and society. Maybe the Diamonds were born with the sole purpose of expanding their empire? Gems have done the same thing for thousands of years with no reason to try anything different, all they needed was a different perspective. I think they deserve a chance.

What about diamonds from other gem empires . It is possible that white blue and yellow weren’t the only diamonds / gems

When I watched it I loved it but now after time has passed I’m starting to realize the story was pretty bad. Don’t get me wrong I enjoyed it but their redemption was extremely rushed like 1 episode before they just poofed the rest of the crystal gems and threw Steven and connie in jail and then all of a sudden they’re good guys because Blue cried, Yellow changed because of a metaphor she didn’t even understand and White got embarrassed? I don’t know it’s still enjoyable but really poorly written.

Ok so, White Diamond's quick redemption is kind of symbolic. She had been so obsessed with perfection that one tiny flaw brought her down super quick.

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I think the diamonds redemption should be a different arc in season 6

edited the comment because im tired of seeing new comments distracting me. this was 2 years ago, leave me be lmao

I think a lot of people missed the point that when White Diamond was shocked that Steven did not reform to be Pink Diamond, White actually became sad because she missed Pink, even if she always said she despised her. She seemed angry but some of that came from sadness. Also, I think they really need to introduce a new, different character that breaks the current “rules”. My dream for season 6 and beyond would be a clone wars situation where they escalate the intensity as the series goes on. Either way, I’m sure I won’t be disappointed.

My main problem was that was so much dramatic build up in the series about what the Gem empire was doing: The Kindergartens, the holes in the earth, the 1000 year war, the cluster (an amalgamation of tortured gem bodies), the GALAXIES of conquered worlds. The fact that it just all lead to a family counseling moment is what was weird. I'm not sure what they are going to do for season 6, but I wish they addressed gem production more, because I feel like it would be a goo way to get to the root of understanding White Diamonds mind. The line in Change your Mind, where White says, "I certainly don't need you" to Pink was weird to me. She's this supposedly perfect, all knowing being, then why did she NEED to make other diamonds or other gems for that matter? She also said that Pink was a part of her that needed to be suppressed. So I guess that means every gem is some kind of part of her? (Hence her ability to mind control everyone). But I guess she couldn't fully repress Pink because Pink is...the Heart? She is her joy? What I'm saying is that there could have been a better self-examination arc, or build up.

i think it should’ve taken a couple more episodes for white’s redemption

Hi if you look at the bridge blue and yellow diamond are fighting on you can see gem harvesting!

It did feel a little rushed with White. However, I believe that the next season (and potentially the movie) will involve the process of changing Homeworld and the entire Gem empire, and will flesh out the Diamonds' redemptions as well

Is it even redemption? Does it need to be? There's a difference between "being redeemed" and just "getting them on our side". The idea that the diamonds have been redeemed seems like it stems from the view that a villain has to either win outright, be redeemed or be defeated. Maybe sometimes you just have to put aside justice for the guilty to get justice for the innocent - in this case, the corrupted gems. It's not perfect, but it's still better. That's still enough to celebrate.

Am not late for the first time

Peeps I've been saying this since I first seen this character...Blue Diamond is BEST "GIRL"! Does anyone else agree?

I like how the Diamonds were redeemed. I know it's not believable to most people how others can change so soon. But sometimes all it takes is that serious moment, to really change the way someone views the world, themselves, and others. It doesn't mean that the person who changes is instantly a good guy now, but it flips their ideals, in a way that could lead to them becoming a good guy.

I still need to see the Diamonds follow through with their reformed ideas to give them a full redemption.

Redeemed? 'Kay, not so simple. More like, "They are now down Lapis' path." They got all sorts of shtuff they are going to have to deal with. Sugar can't possibly make it so simple.

They're not redeemed, Steven certainly dismantled their perception of themselves as the objectively perfect beings who are fit to spread their greatness through the stars. But they still have a ways to go before they care about other gems, and even further before they can begin to empathize with organics. Homeworld has a ways to go. But Ironically, Steven solved the colonization and resource crisis. No need to make more gems when you don't want to colonize anymore...

White diamond also said to steven when he made his way to her head... You are everything I suppress in myself... (Empathy, love,emotions....) And then she blushed.. Haha priceless.

I like how the most powerful gem (White Diamond) just changes her mind so easily.

They aren't going to stop there rein of terror across spaaaaaaaaaaaaaace

I agree I mean white was felt rushed but there like a thing here like blue got persuade by Steven Yellow got persuade by her blue diamond and the pain inside her White got persuaded by herself so every time their redemption gets closer to them . Also my favorite diamond is pink bc she left every thing she knew as pink and became rose to have a better life and fight for right then rose or pink became or had Steven so her son had the chance to live his life ppl say she is selfish if anything she's self less bc she kept giving her life away for what she believed

I actually had the hardest time with believing Yellow's redemption over white. Maybe it's because there was a big chunk of the episode devoted to trying to change White's mind, maybe it's because we spent more time with Yellow but all of her hints of redemption were a lot more subtle than Blue's, but I just had a harder time believing it. With the context of blue being the reason, it does help, but it doesn't change the fact that it was incredibly rushed on in the episode alone. It seemed even Blue had more screen time in the same episode before she had a change of heart.

I really didn't think about this before, and just kinda accepted it, but this made me feel like I understood what they were going for in the story so much better.

Did Blue and Greg talk

it’s weird how they get redeemed but Kevin doesn’t ya he’s a jerk. But he never killed anyone.

Genocide, don't you mean gemocide?* *Insert Stevens pun face here* *

The Roundtable: Steven Universe is *OVER*. Spinel: *YOU DARE OPPOSE ME MORTAL??*

Blue and Yellow sure White never Other than that, redemption in shows today are practically writers’ one way ticket to satisfy nitwit parents who don’t want their children to watch about death. It’s annoying!

White Diamond got redeemed so fast meanwhile we still have yet to see Jasper get redeemed lol

I see each of the Diamonds as sisters. White being the oldest, she's the big sister. Blue and Yellow are basically just twins with different personalities, pink is the little sister who was being abused silently, and Steven is the Nephew

One thing I think is important to point out is that the season finale is only the first step to a complete RE establishing of rules in homeworld. Think about it this way, just as there are gems that feel the way pink always felt, there are also gems that thrived from the strick rules applied. It's like dismantling a whole cast system in seconds, something HUGE is going to happen. This is faaaaar from the end.

I feel like even if it felt rushed there was so much suspense built up for white diamonds arch and I personally love how they put everything into a gift a tied it up with a bow Blues redemption was pretty flawless The only redemption I didn't agree with as much was yellows

2: 58 Mermaid Man - EVIL! Me - what!?

I'm okay with blue being redeemed, but not the others.

I think anyone can be redeemed, if executed correctly. The key is setting standards of right and wrong. Often, as long as there is some form of good in someone, that person can be redeemed. This is why I feel the redemption arc of the diamonds work. The diamonds being redeemed plays into the small form of good they harbor, then using it for them to recognize their flaws. It was the same with White Diamond. Her small form of good is wanting to do good. Everything she did was for what was good in her own eyes. It was only by recognizing that she is just as capable of making mistakes or messing up that she began redeeming. Honestly, the only character that can’t be redeemed is Pink Diamond herself and that’s because she’s gone.

The Real redemption arc is when they loosen gem laws, legalized fusions, illegalized owning pearls (sorry blueberry pearl), end colonization, and preserve alien life. The finale is just tip of iceberg like I'm working on a fanfic with a similar theme of Avatar (diamonds saving a lush planet from destruction)

White diamond have GORGEOUS heels so she’s redeem

I wasn't completely on board with White's redemption, but I at least like it was very different. I loved how Yellow was the first diamond we ever knew about and was only redeemed by a diamond we didn't meet until season 4. Yellow has always been my favourite diamond.

It's not redemption. It's a new begining. A redemption is making everything you did wrong right or at least apologizing. You can see that with Zuko's redemption arc. A lot of his arc is him going back to past characters or points brought up in past episodes and reconciling with them. Katara's mother's murder, the imprisoned Kiyoshi Warriors, his uncle, what it means to be a firebender, and more. All varying in narrative importance. But all important to Zuko's story. And its not ALL (not everything he has done anyway) wrapped up by the end of the series but by then you trust that he is dedicated to change. The same with the Diamonds. They have realized their mistakes and they've started to change by healing the gems they accidentally corrupted, by acknowledging steven as himself, and acknowledging they're own problems but they haven't fully changed. YET. Of course they're exceptions like DBZ (redemption is slow, not reconciliatory and begun for convenience) or to an extent the FMA manga (real redemption requires sacrifice) but those are VERY different stories. SU says that you can change. It doesn't mean you have to be forgiven and it doesn't mean you have to be trusted. But change can happen and it is worth it even if it's only for the future. And that's what I love about Steven Universe.

I don’t think any of the diamonds should have been redeemed they were tyrants who treated everyone beneath them who shattered and oppressed many and have done horrible things and yeah Steven empathized with them but you can empathize with an enemy and still have to fight them especially after what white did confirmed to have abused pearl possibly for hundreds or thousands of years you can’t just forgive and forget all they’ve done

In my eyes, I think they CAN and SHOULD be redeemed. HOLD IT! Before people start slamming me with "space nazi" comments. Allow me to first explain why they should be redeemed. Yes; for thousands of years, the other three Diamonds have done some HORRIBLE things to the universe. But the path to fully reconciling one's actions begins with a single step. In this; the other Diamonds took not one, not two, not three but FOUR big steps forward and all of it was made possible thanks to Steven. By simply talking with them, he managed to achieve the following. 1. In talking with Blue, he helped her understand how her behavior did more harm than good to Pink. He even helped her understand that she shouldn't force her own pain on her. Once she realized what she did was wrong, Blue changed for the better. 2. For centuries, Yellow had been forced to uphold White's authority over Homeworld. To "change" or destroy anything and everything White or herself felt was "flawed." But when Steven helped show her that everything she did, even fighting Blue, was actually making things worse; Yellow realized how blind she was. 3. White was so consumed over wanting everything to be flawless that it didn't matter who she hurt to achieve it. She even saw Pink being in Steven as a flaw. But after realizing how strong Pink truly was with Steven, how childish she truly was and after Steven encouraged everyone to be who they are, no matter what...White saw the truth. Finally, the biggest step they took towards redemption was in agreeing to help cure the Gems who were corrupted. Now, I ask you; if the Diamonds didn't truly change...why else would they come to earth and help? In conclusion, while many still find their redemptions hard to swallow due to the horrid things they've done. Let us not forget other villains who performed equally similar actions in anime and western cartoons. Figures like Vegeta, Lord Hater, Harley Quinn, Captain Cold, Terra and others all come into my mind...what about you

Yes, considering that a Diamond Redemption arc is like expensive in a sense for season 5 but I really want to see a further stretch upon Steven's relationship with the diamonds especially white

I’m sorry to bring this up, but I just realize something. Pink diamond reminds me of the demon Sparda from the video game “Devil May Cry”. Pink, like Sparda, decided to fight and protect humanity from the Diamond Authority and did it valiantly. She even left behind a legacy. A son who is half Gem and half human. Just like Sparda left behind his son Dante who was half human and half demon. It blows my mind.