These Cops Are A HUGE Liability! INSANE Stop!
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Sources:
Fifth Amendment- bit.ly/3vZ3D21
Terry v. Ohio- bit.ly/2SFAnK9
Berkemer v. McCarty- bit.ly/3gcm7B9
Obiter dictum- bit.ly/4bwT4DJ
Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada- bit.ly/3nYdxIV
Brown v. Texas- bit.ly/3p1SKDr
75 Pa. C.S. § 6308- bit.ly/49aBELz
Commonwealth v. Singletary- bit.ly/3udRe9S
75 Pa. C.S. § 1511- bit.ly/3u47ieo
75 Pa. C.S. § 102- bit.ly/42n8RRl
Delaware v. Prouse- bit.ly/3iz7lV3
@AuditTheAudit 3 ай бұрын
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@goodcitizen6193 3 ай бұрын
They never articulated a crime. Not even close.
@user-ih8qm5dy3l 3 ай бұрын
If you don't already know about this guy, you WILL WANT to know about him 😂 rayrayz camera, çops seem to fear him 😊
@JeffTibbs-zm8lr 3 ай бұрын
Can you please do Dolton, IL and Dolton Police it will go viral!!!!!!!
@jaycreasey 2 ай бұрын
It's a great recruiting tactic hey if you become a cop you can do whatever you want😂😮😅🐷💩🤡s until you come up against the knowledgeable citizen who knows the law😮
@jaycreasey 2 ай бұрын
Cop can't decide whether he is asking or commanding you to ID 😂😂😂 the black man in the car knows the law better than the old white guy who was a cop for probably years what an as ho😮
@decayedstate1972 3 ай бұрын
A person needs a law degree to live free in the land of freedom.
@Blakkrazor69 3 ай бұрын
Not at all. You need to know and stand up for the Legal/Lawful Definition of; Inalienable/Unalienable and what constitutes a Human Right. As long as you're willing to challenge these members of their Cult of Authority on such matters then they are obligated/bound to respect them or become Criminal by their own same set of Rules. Coercion is a Crime no matter whom is committing it. I'm looking at you Police Officers...
@jnothanks 3 ай бұрын
Even if you do, the fuzz will tell you that your degree is worthless, inaccurate, and lacks qualified immunity.
@davebigdog 3 ай бұрын
Remember that they say ignorance of the law is no excuse Except cops, they are not required to have to know all the laws
@donaldkgarman296 3 ай бұрын
I THINK YOU MEANT TO SAY THE LAND OF FEIFDOM CITIZENS ARE PEASANTS , YOU KNOW .
@ricladouceur6202 3 ай бұрын
Problem is police don't and they have qualified stupidity.
@kawasakiwhiptwo5821 3 ай бұрын
Always remember and never forget, the police are legally allowed to lie to you. Let me clarify something...In the midst of an officers investigation,whether it's a murder investigation,or if you're pulled over for a traffic violation...that makes it to court before a judge... "yes your honor,but he lied about that in his investigation when questioning me." Judge - "that may be true,but he's allowed to lie to you in an investigatory capacity...so I can't help you there." That's what I mean,when I say they can "legally" lie to you. You can't use it as a defense against a police officer. Now if he lies to the court,that's where their lying is not legal or allowed.
@robinlaszlo 3 ай бұрын
And they will even when they don't need too.
@innocentbystander3317 3 ай бұрын
And I'm legally allowed to ignore them and answer none of their questions or assist their investigation whatsoever.
@jules8876 3 ай бұрын
This isn't entirely true. Unless you somehow make it clear that you're exercising your 5th Amendment right, you can still land in trouble in unlucky situations (fit a description, etc) @@innocentbystander3317
@user-gs5fc4oy8h 3 ай бұрын
But they aren't allowed to make issuance of threats of violence, threats of arrest without actual probable cause to do a arrest are threats of violence
@ssgemactv1775 3 ай бұрын
@@innocentbystander3317ding ding: that's the correct answer, the cops aren't interested in making friends or interacting with the community LMFAO you can't lose that one if you don't play
@josueparedes530 Ай бұрын
They are so power hungry. That first cop was SO furious he wouldn't yield to his demands
@reeses_piecesblessingsbupo5309 3 ай бұрын
A C- ? WTF? That’s such an injustice in itself!
@JaydoS123 23 күн бұрын
Need room for the real bad ones
@zeejoo 10 күн бұрын
F means failure. Failure to do your job. Whether you fail in an extreme manner or simply fail to do your job, you failed. It should be an F @@JaydoS123
@travr6 3 ай бұрын
How the hell do you give the cop a C for lying and attempting to violate this man's rights repeatedly?
@musicwatcher100 3 ай бұрын
because thats the minimum standard apparently
@user-gs5fc4oy8h 3 ай бұрын
Threats of violence too you forgot
@Babomomebeo 3 ай бұрын
As long as the cop doesn't beat the man within an inch of his life, they'll get a passing grade on this channel
@victoriawilliams2786 3 ай бұрын
@@BabomomebeoNot true.
@nathanielwallace7970 3 ай бұрын
Because it’s legal for the police to do those things 🤷♂️
@stevef68 3 ай бұрын
"We ID everyone we come into contact with" sounds a lot like "SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS!"
@Groffili 3 ай бұрын
It's different. It's worse. In the Germany of "that certain time", there was a legal justification for identifying people. That's just a statement, not a defense. But there were legal reasons for the police to want to know who (and what) you were, where you lived, if you had the right to be where they met you... With a few exceptions, such reasons do no longer exist in our law. It's true that every German citizen is legally required to _own_ a "Personalausweis" - the state-issued ID. But (again, with a few exceptions), we are not required to show them on request. Or even have them on us. Similar to the U.S. regulations, there are these situations where the police can demand you to identify. When you are suspected of a crime, or are considered a witness to a crime. But mostly, you are not required to "show your papers"... and our police would ask just anyone to do so. That's the difference. U.S. police does that _even when they don't have the legal right to do so_. It's an intimidation tactics... just like in our brown past. _"We know you now. We know where you live. We have an eye on you. Don't do anything we might not like!"_ And it's worse. Because our police back then was legally allowed to do that. Yours is not... and they still do it.
@jackburton2680 3 ай бұрын
My mind is blown reading someone saying any police policy in America is worse than what nazi Germany did. Unreal
@mikebunch3189 3 ай бұрын
@@Groffili sad , but true .
@carltonbanks5470 2 ай бұрын
@Groffili Don't need to go to Germany for that. Black Americans needed "walking papers" upon demand all the way until the 1970s. In some areas still do. Doesn't matter if it's unconstitutional when LE has local judges as buddies.
@kiillabytez 2 ай бұрын
If you did nothing wrong, you got nothing to fear. All I read in the comments are whiny Karens who are definitely hiding sonmething.
@jestinnawelch35 3 ай бұрын
So wait, if an unlicensed teenager decided they wanted to wait in the car and listen to the radio while their parents are shopping or whatever, they could get in trouble if they jump in the driver seat pretending to drive while they are waiting? Cuz I used to do that..
@Love-sh2jb 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I had exactly that happen to me. I was EIGHT years old, hopped into the front seat to fiddle with the radio and a police officer approached the window. He was kind to me and asked if I had a driver's license then explained that because I was 'operating a motor vehicle' I was required to wear a seatbelt etc. The car was not running, just the radio- but the key WAS in the ignition as the officer pointed out. Again, I was a child and this interaction was meant to create awareness. I did not get into any trouble and (I think) the officer left before my family returned to the car. No threats, no arrests, no problem. But this was in 🇨🇦 in the 90's. I was raised to be polite and respectful to those in uniform.
@scottj1957 2 ай бұрын
Yup, know what you mean.
@sarahtar Ай бұрын
Yep. And if you leave the bar, get to the parking lot, and decide you're too drunk to go home so you sleep it off in your car, you can be arrested for dui.
@jestinnawelch35 Ай бұрын
@@sarahtar what if someone decided sleep it off and they are the only person in the car but they are in the passenger seat, with the engine running, could they still get in trouble?
@davidjudd951 26 күн бұрын
@@jestinnawelch35 It depends on which state they're living in. Some will bust you if your keys are anywhere in the vehicle. I saw a case about fifteen years ago where, this dude was drunk, he refused the request of his friend to drive him home because he didn't want to leave his car overnight. His friend let him stay in the car, but took his keys, and told him he'd be back in the morning to return the keys. The guy was crashed out in the drivers seat when a cop busted him for DUI. Cops couldn't find his keys, the guy couldn't remember his keys were taken by his friend. Since he didn't remember his keys were confiscated by his friend, the cop argued that his intent was to drive drunk, and busted him for that. He beat the case in court, and the judge admonished the police for having the audacity to jail a guy on intent, when there was no such legislation. He should have never mentioned that he didn't know where his keys were, because that opened the door for the cop to argue, that he could have easily thought they were there in the car. That's why you limit conversation with them. They're always looking for an angle to pad their numbers.
@KTSpeedruns 3 ай бұрын
Drives me crazy how many times an officer will threaten but never follow through implying they know the threat is empty and they cannot legally follow through because they are in the wrong.
@scotthoover1568 3 ай бұрын
These officers didn't "misunderstand" or "misinterpret" the 4th amendment. They knew full well what they were doing. They've just been trained that lying and pressuring citizens usually gets their compliance. This isn't an ignorance problem, it's a maliciousness problem.
@GospelOutside 3 ай бұрын
Yep. These jokers have been around for a long time. They know exactly what they are “trying” to do.
@myaccount3402 3 ай бұрын
It's "accepted"
@wingatebarraclough3553 3 ай бұрын
The behavior of these two make me fear for their potential behavior toward their families behind closed doors
@dannyfergusson3243 3 ай бұрын
The real question is why is ID ike crack to them ??
@NeoAxiom 3 ай бұрын
They misrepresented it
@ianbattles7290 3 ай бұрын
"I don't consent to any searches, seizures, or questions...so either arrest me for whatever crime you think I have committed or leave me alone."
@I.____.....__...__ 3 ай бұрын
He even asked him WHAT CRIME he's "suspected" of, but of course, the cop had no answer because the caller didn't have an answer. That's why he kept grasping at every straw he could think of and pivoting faster than an ice-skater. 🙄
@blackcloud-cyborg 3 ай бұрын
Yeah you going to jail 😂
@jamieg9607 3 ай бұрын
Love it!
@user-fm2iw3um3u 3 ай бұрын
Mic drop
@Yata69 3 ай бұрын
Just dont drop said mic infront said cop, or its littering! 😂@user-fm2iw3um3u
@Hethalean 3 ай бұрын
Always remember when saying they demonstrated a false understanding, they might know what it truely is. They are absolutely 10000% allowed and encouraged to lie to you.
@mtw1234 5 күн бұрын
Officer, have you ever heard of "Swatting?" Anyone can call anonymously and report anything. Doesn't mean it's creditable.
@jaycreasey 23 сағат бұрын
Gilmore thought he could bluff his way past an educated black man parked in a car doing nothing wrong😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 🐷💩🐷💩. 📸🦾📸🦾📸🦾📸🦾📸🦾📸🦾📸📸📸
@jaycreasey 23 сағат бұрын
The officer is now the subject of an investigatory detention😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😮😮😮😮
@toco6270 3 ай бұрын
The sergeant gets a C-? No, he gets an F+ for not knowing the law and making up Supreme Court ruling. Stuff like that can cause someone their life.
@reggiehowze1891 3 ай бұрын
This why I don't subscribe to your channel. Your playing both sides
@joelmccoy1989 3 ай бұрын
You mean F- lower than an F
@aurelijus1 2 ай бұрын
''tuff like that can cause someone their life.'' - already did probably thousands of times, yea... freedom
@baconheadhair6938 2 ай бұрын
@@aurelijus1I hate to say this but your country is definitely free when your biggest problem is police not having a 100% understanding of the law.. Wait until you see an actual country that’s not free, where the law doesn’t even matter in some cases, and you are killed or imprisoned for saying something about the leader. America is one of the most free countries on our planet, and it’s not the best, but you definitely don’t understand the conditions anywhere else if you think America isn’t free or is bad
@lukeiify 2 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly lol
@rogerborg 3 ай бұрын
"Suspicion of being aware of his rights."
@TruthAndMoreTruth 3 ай бұрын
"C-"? This "supervisor" doesn't know basic law, and became argumentative,combative, and threatening when confronted with a citizen asserting their civil rights.
@fohz0710 8 күн бұрын
You forget that he didnt get arrested or assaulted , ATA doesn't grade base on moral he grade base on legality
@robertpayne6781 3 ай бұрын
It is beyond disturbing how many officers lack even a basic understanding regarding ID laws, especially considering how vital it is to their duties.
@tgatt5759 3 ай бұрын
They don't need to know anything when the system is on their side and turns a blind eye to their wrongful actions.
@549BR 3 ай бұрын
The majority know the law; they just ignore it.
@ksemery 3 ай бұрын
Cops Lie.
@rkyyrs9477 3 ай бұрын
Even he looks away from a suspicious vehicle! He could have been killed. Did they call the plate number in for wants or warrants? Did they genetic mark the car? If they don't they are not in fear for their life!
@mbarrett99 3 ай бұрын
It’s funny how the police can interpret laws differently for different people.
@teesmith945 3 ай бұрын
called the cops to report suspicious people in my neighbors garden and when the cops got there they realized it was just garden gnomes my neighbor placed there, but the sad part was the cops spent 15 minutes trying to I.D. the gnomes in hopes of an arrest
@captintinsmith3774 3 ай бұрын
😂👌🤣😂🤣
@549BR 3 ай бұрын
They were trying to determine what name the g was an abbreviation of; finally put Goober on the report.
@goatmealcookies7421 3 ай бұрын
Flamingos, on the other hand, would have been really suspicious.
@ianbattles7290 3 ай бұрын
I'm just curious how seeing my ID tells a cop if I have broken the law or not.
@mpscorporation6874 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@robbygee2539 2 ай бұрын
What crime was the officer investigating? He said there was no crime committed, so what was he investigating? We investigate crimes. We do not investigate people.
@harryhanna8388 2 ай бұрын
Arrest this cop for nazi haircut. Scary!
@weewoothisispatrick 3 ай бұрын
I was arrested yesterday for cussing while on private property in Kaplan Lousiana. Make that make sense.
@davisjames8484 3 ай бұрын
Fight it in court then
@Greedynessnish 3 ай бұрын
SUE! It's your first amendment right and city ordanance means nothing.
@michaelsublet3283 3 ай бұрын
It pisses me off how they act like an anonymous call superceded all Your Constitutional Rights.
@cindland 3 ай бұрын
Yes, on that basis that, any unknown, unvetted individual can make any claim, and that would be taken as gospel by the police over the word of the person they’re “investigating”!!! It’s just ludicrous!
@bigchooch4434 Ай бұрын
@@cindland "Well then just prove your innocence! If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear!"
@TalkingGIJoe 3 ай бұрын
so the officer failed to investigate the caller... as usual. Threatening false arrest should be grounds for firing.
@VictoryPedalCab 3 ай бұрын
Their jobs would be so much easier if they actually did their jobs and respected people's civil rights
@harryhanna8388 3 ай бұрын
Haircut is scary. This cop is going fishing. Hope this man sued this township.
@admthrawnuru 3 ай бұрын
If you think about what arrest entails, threatening components of it outside legal backing (assault, battery, kidnapping, etc) is actually illegal. I'm unaware of the legal theory of such threats being tested in the case of police, my guess is no court would allow it, but I do hold that this makes such a threat actually illegal.
@Cassandra20208 3 ай бұрын
I bet there was no caller
@LAkadian 3 ай бұрын
Definitely should be. @@admthrawnuru
@xredhead7135x 3 ай бұрын
So everytime my 5yo climbs up into the drivers seat after parking and unbuckling him, he is in command and control for just sitting in the drivers seat after the vehicle is legally parked?
@godlygifted7995 2 ай бұрын
He should’ve got an F
@Travelingman724 3 ай бұрын
The man has been a cop for probably 30+ years and shows that much ignorance of the law.
@48mastadon 3 ай бұрын
The sergeant's Heinrich Himmler haircut is fitting.
@Paulhartrocks 2 ай бұрын
Lol spot on!
@Vlamyncksken 2 ай бұрын
lmao
@bbennyj Ай бұрын
lol, between that and Bert from Bert and Ernie, I agree
@31cats 3 ай бұрын
I had the exact same thing happened to me but I was parked waiting for my cats surgery for one hour.the difference is that the cop told me that the road was a unmarked private road to a mountain rv camp.I didn’t want to deal with the cop and complied 100%
@josephcarioggia9506 11 күн бұрын
I don't blame you. I did similar thing. Although I wish I had bigger balls and would have. I just don't want any problems
@dennislearyii608 2 ай бұрын
Yo !!! Nice seeing a local on here . I’m from linwood in lower chi!!! Good work on keeping them boys on their toes !!!
@DaBigRMV 3 ай бұрын
“We didn’t say you were doing anything illegal.” Exactly. Which is a violation of my rights.
@President.GeorgeWashington 3 ай бұрын
oversimplification. Police do not need to actually see you doing anything illegal to lawfully detain you. All they need is reasonable articulable suspicion that a crime is afoot. They can continue the stop for as long as it takes to extinguish their initial suspicion for the stop, or until they establish probable cause to make an arrest. In this case, the police simply did not have enough reasonable suspicion to justify the stop.
@dirtywhiteboy4963 3 ай бұрын
WHAT OTHER JOB CAN YOU PULL THIS SHIT?
@LAkadian 4 күн бұрын
@@President.GeorgeWashingtonThen what crime does the citizen in the video appear to be committing? Name it, and explain why.
@President.GeorgeWashington 4 күн бұрын
@@LAkadian Read the last sentence dummy
@__shifty 3 ай бұрын
they knew not to generate an incident number because then they'd have to explain, likely in court, why they did.
@user-gs5fc4oy8h 3 ай бұрын
It's like you go on his walkie-talkie That's 1 inch away from his lying mouth to ask for a number that he does all the time for traffic citations
@ianbattles7290 3 ай бұрын
Not if they simply drop the charges before you go to court. At that point, your only form of recourse is by filing an expensive and time-consuming lawsuit.
@d2mik2 3 ай бұрын
Do a video on Douglas Slade, LAPD, 10 mil lawsuit
@CrabbyO 3 ай бұрын
Hily shit! This episode is DENSE!!!😳❤️❤️❤️ I could use this video as inspiration for an entire semester of criminal justice!❤ Thank you for your service, my muse.🥰
@kellywilliams6151 3 ай бұрын
The only illegal activity I saw was the supervisor's haircut
@RichieRich7339 3 ай бұрын
😂 thank you for saying it. I was looking for this
@gerrybailey447 2 ай бұрын
And the shades, what are those things about?
@KHDiving 2 ай бұрын
Straight out of an 80s cop show
@ThierryVlaminck 3 ай бұрын
no wonder that with cops like that the prison is filled with innocent people .
@halkreitman7838 3 ай бұрын
I was one..60 months for nothing
@CD-vb9fi 3 ай бұрын
filled with "innocent people" you are spot on! But most people vote for "tough on crime" politicians that did this to us. Too many people don't really understand the difference between "tough on crime" and "not oppressing the innocent".
@CD-vb9fi 3 ай бұрын
@@halkreitman7838 Yep... that is common these days... just remember.... God is going to make everyone that has done that to you pay the price. There is a reason Christ said most people will not be saved. Far too many people are okay with what happened to you.
@fasillimerick7394 3 ай бұрын
I remember the first time I heard about privately owned, for profit prisons, I was terrified. Once there's an economic motivation to fill these prisons, we, to be blunt, are fucked.
@wjf0ne 3 ай бұрын
@@CD-vb9fi Yes, 'the back the blue til it happens to you,' good ole boy cop suckers.
@GWAR1982 Ай бұрын
What if one called and reported suspicious activity in the mayors office? Bet they won’t push so hard.
@michellevi4919 5 сағат бұрын
Holy shit... that guy needs to get fired. "You're sitting in a parked car, if you're drunk it's a DUI." "You're sitting in your car, it's suspicious." My god.
@tedm3994 3 ай бұрын
They didn't generate a incident number is because they were lying about the phone call!
@adamgrove9198 3 ай бұрын
I’m guessing the guy in the car called himself in
@urbugnmetoday3183 3 ай бұрын
@@adamgrove9198never thought of that
@SeenGod 3 ай бұрын
@@adamgrove9198 yep he’s just trolling the cops
@Tijuanabill 3 ай бұрын
Bingo. Cop lies you hear daily: "We got a call", "In this day and age", "Doing this for officer safety", "With all the stuff going on in the news", "Been a lot of recent break ins"....the list of generalizations they substitute for actual evidence of a specific criminal act committed by a specific person, is amazing.
@silentassasin741 3 ай бұрын
@@adamgrove9198proof of this claim ?
@ancientgamer3645 3 ай бұрын
I think the basic problem is that many citizens think cops have ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY, and therefore, cave-in to every demand made by cops. Thanks to COP WATCH and AMENDMENT AUDITOR channels, citizens are learning that there are guidelines and laws the cops MUST follow. THANK YOU ALL! 👍👍
@alecb8509 2 ай бұрын
Yep and anyone who stands up for their rights is automatically resisting, obstructing and a criminal in their eyes.
@carltonbanks5470 2 ай бұрын
Well we had auditors like the Black Panthers way back in the 60s but too many didn't want to listen thanks to slanted media. Thank god the people can be their own media today.
@tedkord1968 2 ай бұрын
The bigger problem is most police think they have absolute authority.
@BatLB 3 ай бұрын
Lying should be illegal for cops.
@youtubeuniversity3638 2 ай бұрын
Employment should be illegal for cops.
@humanplantman 2 ай бұрын
How do these officers STILL not know that they cant ask for ID unless they have probable cause to suspect you of a crime?
@eiland369 3 ай бұрын
As a LEO in Pennsylvania, I have a problem with everything that sergeant is trying to do and some of the lies he’s told to the driver. I hope he filed a complaint for harassment and civil rights violations against him.
@donniedarko4497 3 ай бұрын
It's guys like him that make your job harder.
@Ld7snake 3 ай бұрын
which side of Appalachia are you?
@anthonyholmes1060 3 ай бұрын
I'm glad you feel that way. Step one is always identifying the real problem, especially when you're in the same field. Now the second step is for you to go to that Sergeant and tell him how wrong he was. Be part of the change
@realSethMeyers 3 ай бұрын
Be the change you wish to see. Speak up, and watch your career trajectory immediately flatten because you're not being a good "team player" anymore.
@eiland369 3 ай бұрын
@@Ld7snake east siiide!!!
@teux01 3 ай бұрын
It always infuriates me when someone who KNOWS they have to right to remain silent keeps talking to the cops
@GospelOutside 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Primus54 3 ай бұрын
Having and even invoking the right to remain silent doesn’t necessarily mean you need to self-muzzle and not protest unlawful behavior by the cops. The right exists so as not to self-incriminate. What I’ve seen some say is, “I refuse to answer certain questions.”
@392Hemi-x3 3 ай бұрын
You still should talk to cops if you haven't done anything wrong. You shouldn't answer questions.
@jeffreymcurtis 3 ай бұрын
Right to remain silent means I DON'T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS!
@FluffPuffkotj 3 ай бұрын
Seriously.
@chrisarens5232 3 ай бұрын
How do these cops not know this by now?
@Golden_squanch 3 ай бұрын
I love taking a break from your channel. Whenever I come back there's just so much IRL lore to get me through work
@rebareyes6595 3 ай бұрын
Dispatch NEEDS to ask callers what the 'suspect'is doing or has done. If nothing, the tell the caller what's going on is NOT ILLEGAL.
@akbarshabazz-jenkins7847 2 ай бұрын
Most cops don't even know the law. What makes you think any dispatchers do?
@scotta.5681 2 ай бұрын
Dispatchers have no right to do that.
@deewrig54 2 ай бұрын
There may not have been a call. The cop. Could have lied as an excuse for approaching the car.
@junkremovalserviceky2050 3 ай бұрын
These videos are amazingly revealing. The cop's lecture about "our city, our streets" reveals a lot about their mentality. Thank God for the ubiquity of cameras.
@GospelOutside 3 ай бұрын
Yes as if to say they know the man isn’t even from the area. The audacity feels criminal in and of itself.
@zuluking7481 2 ай бұрын
Good to see you dropped on the tube ! I worry about you fam , reading these folks their rights . Old school talk . Keep up the great work and be safe 👊🏾
@dennisjohnsen7297 3 ай бұрын
I need to make a correction here; the 5A is not a “privilege”, it’s a right. In my opinion, demanding ID as a matter of investigation makes no sense. If the cops are investigating a “crime.” how is obtaining the ID going to help the investigation? For example, is this guy’s ID going to provide evidence that he was committing the crime of being parked on the power line?
@hardluk3 3 ай бұрын
You’re being generous giving the Sargent a C-. He totally failed.
@GospelOutside 3 ай бұрын
Blatant F!!!! They should have moved on once there was zero reasonable suspicion.
@RobertTheUser 3 ай бұрын
Every cop on ATA can’t get an F. It takes away the mystery of the grade.
@Snapper314 3 ай бұрын
Agreed! Sic Semper Evello Mortem Tyrannis!
@syme9925 3 ай бұрын
Fs are for arrests.
@user-gs5fc4oy8h 3 ай бұрын
Don't forget he also issue threats of violence towards the citizen which is a crime
@MimisFam 3 ай бұрын
love the way you narrate these videos. Plenty of information to go by pertaining to the state
@daniellecrawford6933 29 күн бұрын
Great work Dan great audit awesome and great representation for the people🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@D_Sinks 3 ай бұрын
"Blatant misunderstanding" - "Hostile" - "Authoritarian" - "Implying... [false] arrest" *C-* 😂😂😂
@librab103 3 ай бұрын
Cops on ATA usually only get Ds or Fs when violence by the police officer is involved
@olwynskye417 3 ай бұрын
Maybe in this the C stands for a certain 4-letter word that can refer to both cops and a lady part.
@Hakufuichi 3 ай бұрын
C- ? And then you go on to list the sergeants' multiple failures. At least he did not follow through with an arrest. I would score him no higher than a D.
@gotherecom 3 ай бұрын
Yep, just because a playground bully doesn't follow through and actually take your lunch money doesn't make him any less a bully for having demanded it.
@musicwatcher100 3 ай бұрын
its the minimum standard apparently
@brad30three 3 ай бұрын
I’m still waiting for ATA to implement a sorely-needed “F-minus” grade
@Hakufuichi 3 ай бұрын
@brad30three yes. I have often asked, "What's lower than an F ?"
@ayamehachimitsu 3 ай бұрын
@@gotherecomNo the argument here is the bully ASKED for the lunch money. Of course physical threats or physically forcing someone to do something are going to be objectively more severe under law.
@scottfox543 3 ай бұрын
When does the 6th amendment come into play “to be confronted with the witnesses against him”? I would ask to speak to the caller.
@aSTROnomical_8 3 ай бұрын
At some point you would think PD’s would get tired of being sued and embarrassed and would want to make sure they people they have patrolling know the most basic of laws
@soldierboy2350 3 ай бұрын
These officers are complete and total clowns. This is just insane.
@BBROPHOTO 3 ай бұрын
What is incredible is that a random person can call in anything, not be held accountable, and the police will treat it as absolute fact. So many times on this channel is that apparent. Police should be verifying the validity of the call with the evidence presented when they arrive, until then calls should always be treated as ANECDOTAL evidence and not as ABSOLUTE fact that seems to happen.
@jmac3977 3 ай бұрын
Not going to happen. The public has been taught”See something, say something.” This is why people need to know their rights and shut up. If a cop has enough to arrest you, they will. If they don’t, you can inadvertently give them something they need to arrest you.
@thegrimharvest 3 ай бұрын
It's an absolute fact that hypothetically someone somewhere at some time called in and said "something". What they SAID may be anecdotal but that they called and SAID anything at all is "absolute fact". It's the thought process of being wilfully ignorant that this could (and does get) abused. "There was a call." The content of the call is entirely incidental to the fact that a call was made in the first place. Because no one would ever make a call for a bad or frivolous reason. The details are window dressing for a post facto justification. Ergo "we got a call about (×)" is not actually about (×) but that "we got a call".
@fredsmith4438 2 ай бұрын
The sergeant lied to get ID. This is disgusting. A suspension and written reprimand are in order and more training is needed for this sergeant who should have already known the law.
@joevankilpatrick4010 3 ай бұрын
There’s absolutely NOTHING cops can do that would surprise me anymore!!
@adamtennant4936 3 ай бұрын
It's very worrying how many cops don't know/ignore laws and constitutional rights.
@betterthanmost9549 3 ай бұрын
Qualified immunity allows it
@549BR 3 ай бұрын
The Sergeant's haircut is hilarious.
@IMisterBlack 3 ай бұрын
This is the comment I was searching for lmao dude needs to let the hair go and just go full bald
@shanerateliff2125 3 ай бұрын
You ought to see his taint
@deputyrock3489 3 ай бұрын
He went to the barber and said "I want the 'you can spot that I'm a cop from a mile away' haircut please"
@jmmahony 3 ай бұрын
If you watch WWII documentaries, you'll recognize it as Nazi SS chief Heinrich Himmler's haircut. I think the sergeant is a fan.
@pinrod1 3 ай бұрын
@@jmmahony oh for sure that is definitely the Unterschnitt style...
@galenbrett5537 2 ай бұрын
It just amazes me how these cops get a badge and a gun but not even rudimentary understanding of the law.
@johncataldo5529 26 күн бұрын
No duty to verbally identify
@HA-jq1mu 3 ай бұрын
Imagine living in a country where you can’t even sit in a car without people thinking you’re suspicious and cops wanting to arrest you 🤦🏾♂️
@andrewvelonis5940 3 ай бұрын
TBF, he was parked under power lines in an area where people do not usually park, with the intent of provoking the reaction ghat he got.
@timb7775 3 ай бұрын
It depends if you belong in that neighborhood or not.
@jamesseeker1538 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewvelonis5940what is CRIMINAL about what you said? What do cops have authority over? Crime? Sounds like an investigation outside their scope of authority to me. That'd be like me, a pleb, walking up to the podium of a professional speaker in a professional field and just taking over.....I have no business being there. A better solution would be to talk to the caller first. If no crime can be articulated tell that carrier THEY ARE MISUSE OF 911, A CRIME.
@jamesseeker1538 3 ай бұрын
@@timb7775 incorrect. The Constitution EXPLICITLY says citizens have ALL RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES OF THE SEVERAL STATES. If you can sit on a PUBLIC ROAD in your state you can do it in one you don't live in too. What crime is he committing? Cops deal with CRIME specifically correct?
@jonjone661 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewvelonis5940go ahead mate, explain away your rights some more, maybe another false flag operation needs to take place so they can steal some more. Suppose it’s not necessary if you’re willing to hand them over anyways.
@TRC296 3 ай бұрын
Ugh right off the bat, they think someone making a “call” can just violate someone’s rights. I wonder if there was even a call and it was just nosy bored cops?
@AnalogWolf 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately there are many people who just call the police for practically anything which makes the situation worse.
@PandaCoasters 3 ай бұрын
@@AnalogWolfGiven how out of line many cops are, calling the police on someone who is not an immediate threat should b considered attempted murder.
@madtabby66 3 ай бұрын
“We got a call” is one of their magic terms.
@JediYutu 3 ай бұрын
No they got a call shouldn't be grounds for the police to do squat if when they show up there's no other indications of any legal violations\crimes present. Look how often not only do ppl call whine one one for feelings enforcement. But also look at how often what gets dispatched to the officers enroute. Wasn't what the caller actually said and reported at all. Instead it's what that dispatchers own mind filled the gaps in the callers irrational (because it's feelings driven) story with.
@montezuma6962 3 ай бұрын
The cops lie with every word they mutter. It's impossible to know if there was ever a call
@Casper55 Ай бұрын
How and the world did that cop not get a F for not knowing the law!!
@dragonclaw52100 5 күн бұрын
We gotta get you to 3m I’ve been around since 200,000 and always love your videos
@richardduggar4665 3 ай бұрын
When the officer finds himself deep in a hole, he should stop digging
@michaelccopelandsr7120 3 ай бұрын
Whenever a cop says, "Okay," it's NEVER ok. It's a tell that you just did or said something that triggered them. Beware!
@StuartBpPce 3 ай бұрын
Yes I hate the cop okay that I've heard it thousands of times on here. It varies on exactly what it means but one thing is for sure, it never means okay.
@jamescox7007 2 ай бұрын
When A cop tells me he can arrest me, my answer is the same, I dont want any favors from you. Arrest me or shut the fcuk up. I have been arrested twice with 0 convictions, 4 days in jail, and waiting bail. There have been roughly 12 instances I have been given this warning. I also tell them to quit pissing on my boots while you tell me its raining. LIAR.
@abraxasjinx5207 3 ай бұрын
What sucks about this situation is that any lazy corrupt officer can say they "detect the odor of marijuana" and search the car and passenger without cause.
@jamessavage8220 3 ай бұрын
C- seems particularly generous. That implies that the officer was at least partially right, which he absolutely wasn't. He was entirely wrong in every way. The only thing he didn't do was act on his wrong assertions or outright lies.
@mfhex1398 3 ай бұрын
Their ratings suck a lot lately
@vipermustang42 3 ай бұрын
I think if the officer arrested the man, ATA would have given him an F. But since he officer did not, he gave him the C-. That's kinda been ATA's MO on these things.
@ccramit 3 ай бұрын
Personally, I think the moment a cop lies, they should get an F. But I get it. If lying is an F, then what do you give to a cop who assaults someone? ATA should probably change to a 1 to 10 system, where10 is a cop performed well, friendly and within the law. And a 1 where a cops just fails miserably, being aggressive and breaking every law possible.
@amark350 3 ай бұрын
if you give them all an F, it takes away the significance of when the officers go completely bat shit crazy and beat/arrest the individual. So the C- makes sense if you consider that
@victoriawilliams2786 3 ай бұрын
Another thing to keep in mind as well, is the fact that a good portion of police are horribly trained. Unless they take it upon one's self to further their education they behave the way they were trained.
@thenatural1759 3 ай бұрын
There would already be an incident number if somebody actually "called in a suspicious vehicle," because that would be a call for service. An incident number is automatically generated into the CAD when Dispatch sent the cop to the location. So OBVIOUSLY the cop is lying. There will never be an incident number because the cop will never generate one because if there was ever a complaint, or legal action taken the cop will say it was consensual, even though it wasn't.
@adamgrove9198 3 ай бұрын
This is not how it happens
@thenatural1759 3 ай бұрын
@adamgrove9198 this is not how it's supposed to happen. There, I fixed it.
@spasticnapjerk 3 ай бұрын
We can be 99% sure that the city is using a databae using a database to track their 911 calls and a unique record number would be generated for every single call. That record is probably merged with the report that the officer will file and that record number may stay the same, or a different record or incident number might be generated when the call "clears" as they said. Thay first record number does exist but it's probably not released to the public until later.
@thenatural1759 3 ай бұрын
@@spasticnapjerk also when people call the non-emergency dispatch number.
@ShiningDarknes 3 ай бұрын
No moron, this is not how "incident numbers" happen. The CAD number IS NOT an incident number and that is not and has never been information police are required to inform you of when investigating you. If they issue a citation that citation will have the relevant numbers on it.@@thenatural1759
@kennybachman35 Күн бұрын
“Reasonable suspicion” means they can articulate probable cause (by penal code) on a charging document. The 4th Amendment is very clear on when you are required to show ID “when you are lawfully arrested”. There’s no such thing as “stop & ID”.
@leodouskyron5671 2 ай бұрын
I give the Sargent an F. I do NOT believe he does not know there is no stop and identify statute in the state because he did not arrest him. And based on his attitude it WAS the fact he was a black man (appearance) meant he thought he could make those demands. Racism is not saying a person is black or the N-word, it is treating people differently or having expectations of others not based on actual individualized information. This is a minor example of what black people mean when they say we can “see” cops being racist all the time.
@jeepliving1 3 ай бұрын
Sargent Gilmore got a C+ for F level conduct? Just because he didn't follow through on his threat to arrest for failure to ID, doesn't let him off the hook for displaying the most abject ignorance of the laws he's purporting to enforce. "AtA gets .... an F" for this one.
@randilaatsch9758 3 ай бұрын
Ata is a bit of a shill. Imo
@tgatt5759 3 ай бұрын
AtA always skews in favor of the police
@Hmclaren-vc8vf 3 ай бұрын
Yep... Par for the course around here... 😕
@Darkside007 3 ай бұрын
He backed down. If threatening to arrest someone and backing down is F, what is false arrest?
@jeepliving1 3 ай бұрын
@@Darkside007 My thinking is there is a line which, when crossed, demonstrates an F level performance. It's like a final exam. If you get 50% wrong, it's an F. If you get 90% wrong, it's still an F.
@Fantastic_Stranger 3 ай бұрын
"Stay away from my dog" what's he gonna do? Phase through the car and take it? 💀
@DV-tc1yr Ай бұрын
They stated they got a call for a suspicious vehicle so if that's the case, there is an event number created by the dispatcher
@caseyharrington6669 2 ай бұрын
This is why audits are necessary!!!!!
@Evan-bc6nb 3 ай бұрын
12:57 I love that island accent when he says "your tyrants, threatening me!" Guy knows his stuff. Glad he wasn't pulled from his car for no ID like we have seen before on ATA.
@Oliviaandtrina 3 ай бұрын
I think Gilmore 100% knew he was wrong, otherwise he would have taken mr LAC to jail. He also stepped very carefully in his speech and never completely threatened arrest if the ID wasn't given. Seems pretty clear he knew exactly where the line was and how to not cross it.
@ShiningDarknes 3 ай бұрын
Right, which is why he gets a C. He at least knows not to cross that line. It that a good thing? No, that is a net-neutral thing. But were this some other officer we have seen on this channel, he may not have hesitated to cross that line as soon as he pulled up. The grading scale is relevant to other police actions and how the interaction could have gone, not how the viewer personally feels about the officer's (or citizen's) conduct.
@gunnydeeP.I. 2 ай бұрын
I love how these cops "Investigation" is never anything orher than standing around demanding ID.
@wifexxx 28 күн бұрын
Sergeant Waldo LMAO looks like where's Waldo
@DrDonWario_MD 3 ай бұрын
Sergeant has quite the haircut
@549BR 3 ай бұрын
Barber shop was closed and he did it himself.
@scott_simmonz 2 ай бұрын
If a man is not driving for commerce then no permission slip / license is necessary, and furthermore is 100% unconstitutional. 🛑
@loyceholland6201 3 ай бұрын
Clear case of ego over oath and this is an example of why they are such a danger to freedom.
@mre3654 3 ай бұрын
Asking for ID is the laziest form of policing. They are just fishing for warrants as they assume everyone has one. I doubt there was even a call
@apfelbasket 3 ай бұрын
I invoked my fifth amendment during traffic stop & the officer reported to the court that I was extremely uncooperative & the D.A. Was prepared to handle me as such. My proof on looking into the laws of the reason for the stop proved I was not uncooperative. But the officers like almost made my life hard & expensive.
@charleshacker4456 2 ай бұрын
Call on "SUSPICIOUS Vehicle" isn't a crime. LAWSUIT
@larrykammin3303 2 күн бұрын
Lies lies and more lies yet they wonder why people hate them
@unbreakable7633 3 ай бұрын
Reasonable suspicion has to be specific: evidence that would lead a reasonable person to believe a crime is being or is about to be committed. Not just generalized suspicion which amounts to "I don't know what you're doing."
@georgejones3526 3 ай бұрын
I would certainly ask exactly what it was that made my legally parked vehicle appear suspicious. Be specific.
@timb7775 3 ай бұрын
But it's not a reasonable person, it's reasonable cop. We all know cops are held to a much much lower standard.
@thobetiin8266 3 ай бұрын
@@georgejones3526Exactly. "Suspicious of what?" At the very least you'll know what to avoid
@President.GeorgeWashington 3 ай бұрын
Cops are held to a much lower standard by the courts? Lmao. What an ignorant thing to say. Prosecutors, lawyers and judges hold their police to an extremely high standard or else any evidence they collect would be suppressed by the exclusionary rule @@timb7775
@horrido666 3 ай бұрын
"I'm conducting an investigation" is the new "I smell marijuana."
@rkyyrs9477 3 ай бұрын
Suspicious vehicle?? Is it licensed? Is the license plate valid? Is the VIN number visible? Then the vehicle is parked and off and the owner is not looking under the hood!? Asking for help? All questions answered bugger off copper! Isn't it time for your doughnut run?!! 😂
@GospelOutside 3 ай бұрын
And that smell is everywhere now. Smh
@user-gj2cp7ry8k 3 ай бұрын
How can they investigate a non crime ? Hilarious
@Samantha-my9ds 3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@allen2zulu 3 ай бұрын
4:40 the reason the agent is constantly looking away is because he knows he is lying and maintaining eye contact is very uncomfortable while lying
@MB-mp6gt 3 ай бұрын
Trained to violate rights and lie ... Kind of an unrespectable often dishonorable profession . When did that become ok , I don't get it ?
@stephenhill3286 3 ай бұрын
Its amazing that we don't require our law enforcement to actually know the law
@barryjackson5407 3 ай бұрын
A supervisor that knows nothing about the law. Absolutely ridiculous. There is no complainant so there is no RAS. This cop is escalating the situation because there is no violation being committed. He doesn’t like anyone telling him no! Now the threat of walking next to a car because of a dog. What? I definitely would not have gotten out of my car.
@President.GeorgeWashington 3 ай бұрын
You do not need to have a "complainant" for reasonable articulable suspicion to exist. In Terry v. Ohio, there was no complainant at all. What constitutes RAS depends on the totality of the circumstances. I am not defending what the cops did here, they did not have RAS, but I find it funny that you complain about people not knowing the law while also spreading misinformation about the law in the same comment.
@dondom23 2 ай бұрын
He kept saying they needed RAS. No reason to mark him down for saying something else out of frustration.
@ddg3210 3 ай бұрын
Mr LAC was polite, articulate, calm, sensible, and Right. Great job dude!
@emilywest3669 3 ай бұрын
I could be a 6 foot tall female named Tim Tom Billy jilly with an address from space. None of that information will tell you if my actions in that moment are criminal or not. 🙄
@muzzledwon1845 3 ай бұрын
Fair enough but if you have a warrant for your arrest or you’re wanted that’s worth a lot of kudos during rollcall in the morning
@emilywest3669 3 ай бұрын
@@muzzledwon1845 sickening how true that is.
@glintinggold 3 ай бұрын
@@muzzledwon1845 Key here is how he says it's ACCEPTED that you just give up your ID whenever police ask. Thankfully this guy knew his rights! Never just give up your ID, it feeds this cop's tyrannical case.
@BarterIrving 3 ай бұрын
If that information is incorrect it is, even without RAS
@emilywest3669 3 ай бұрын
@@BarterIrving yeah but they aren’t supposed to be able to force that information unless RAS is there so my point still stands.
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