These Decks Will Get You Banned at Your LGS

These Decks Will Get You Banned at Your LGS | Commander Clash S16 E2

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5 ай бұрын

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@journcy 5 ай бұрын

I'm not usually a Commander Clash viewer, but I found myself watching through this whole episode. I really like the change to Spelltable for this season, somehow it makes the battlefield way more readable to me.

@MTGGoldfish 5 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@gzzuss 5 ай бұрын

That's probably because they are calling the cards and a big one pop on the screen when casted! 😅

@tardmonkey7319 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, shoutout to the editor

@allenjohnson7355 5 ай бұрын

Spelltable forever please.

@SmashPortal 5 ай бұрын

As someone who's been watching Commander Clash for a long time, it's actually making it less watchable for me.

@MrGrovak 5 ай бұрын

I think the best part of the paper games is the edited games are a little shorter and easier to watch in one sitting while still getting the best banter from the crew. Great game though.

@kurowasanabe 5 ай бұрын

Phil getting free Eldrazi twice in a row, First on Cardmarket and now here. He is truly blessed by the Eldritch Gods of Magic.

@Tinnituss 5 ай бұрын

card market scripts their games lol

@iiGiacomo 5 ай бұрын

I respect Crim for the “mental health counterspell.” Sometimes it is the correct choice

@brendanpulsford 5 ай бұрын

Phil's surprised smile and thumbs up when Crim said he's gonna trust Phil was the highlight for me

@MattWilliams747 5 ай бұрын

Seth playing a no one wins deck over excessive card draw or panharmonicon shenanigans was exactly what I needed this morning. Thanks guys! Awesome episode!

@toolittletoolate 4 ай бұрын

Him then winning with his no-win deck was poetic justice that I wasn't ready for.

@laytonjr6601 2 ай бұрын

@@toolittletoolate Crim killed everyone including himself

@darthsnarf 5 ай бұрын

Crim and Richard, father and son, matching playmats They must have had a 2 for 1 at the toys r us on playmats

@JRBissett 5 ай бұрын

Absolutely loving the in person play! It’s been easy for me to follow, even though I’m not familiar with all of the cards and such. Great job to the editor and team!

@amisanthropicman 5 ай бұрын

I think they're on video chat, recording four separate videos of their paper game and combining them. Props to the editor, who combined 8 shots in total when you count the video of their faces.

@Discarabsnation3187y 4 ай бұрын

Man the in person play is such a massive improvement its not even funny. One of my biggest issues with some of the older videos was that a good 40ish minutes of them were just waiting for Magic Online to resolve all the triggers, but, with that gone, it's gotten so much better. Liked and clicked the bell.

@adamhenwood1114 5 ай бұрын

Seeing game length 45 minutes: “oh god Phil is gonna combo off isn’t he”

@joshuaboniface 5 ай бұрын

Or Seth succeeds at a draw. Now I'm morbidly curious.

@jackl8025 5 ай бұрын

nah just Nekusar things

@RyanEglitis 5 ай бұрын

More just good editing and not waiting for MTGO triggers

@noahfriedrich4686 5 ай бұрын

Flashing opposition agent into your own humility to chump block another 1/1 is next level

@Kryptnyt 5 ай бұрын

Playing Humility so that your Opposition Agent can enter untapped so that it can flash block despite there being a Thalia Frog out is also next level

@djbisson9819 5 ай бұрын

Holy crap Batman when did you switch to paper? So happy I clicked on this vid and made this discovery! May have to go back and find the switch so I can catch up. Much prefer paper magic to digital. Clash On!

@davidhansen5067 5 ай бұрын

The switch happened last week, the first episode of the current season.

@djbisson9819 5 ай бұрын

@@davidhansen5067 thank you kind sir

@MTGGoldfish 5 ай бұрын

It started last episode!

@allnightgamer792 5 ай бұрын

I greatly appreciate that, even though Tomer is out this season, CLASH ON STILL LIVES ON!!!!

@MstrKipper 5 ай бұрын

I realized that we can actually get new precon content since the games are paper which I think is pretty sick Perhaps we can also do Doctor Who upgrades at some point? 👀

@metalclaw149474 5 ай бұрын

i like the in person style this season, particularly all the edits of playercam and card descriptions, since i dont really know any new cards im finding myself more engaged in the match in general, mtgo would be so rigid with gamepieces and priority id often tune out on complicated games. if this hive mind teferi happened on mtgo i likely wouldve turned off, but the editting for it here was very entertaining

@MartianTechnoDonut 5 ай бұрын

Dude, the celebration sound for the winner is just perfect :'D

@Lattle828 5 ай бұрын

Good content as always. I hope you guys do a stats episode though, they are always my favorite to watch and to go back to and see how your card tastes change over time.

@oneguy637 5 ай бұрын

Seconding this

@whoopsmymeds 5 ай бұрын

Crim's doubletake at 38:27 is GOLD

@alaraplatt8104 5 ай бұрын

38:22 for better comedic timing

@kkplx Ай бұрын

that was the most fascinating episode i've seen you play. GREAT job by you and your editor.

@silentsnake96 5 ай бұрын

I love Phil just actually using a banned card in commander 😂 not just banned at your lgs

@bondeulv 5 ай бұрын

Which one?

@copycat2696 4 ай бұрын

Coalition Victory@@bondeulv

@anamedninja5536 4 ай бұрын

@@bondeulv Coalition Victory is on the ban list

@laytonjr6601 2 ай бұрын

@@anamedninja5536 If your commander isn't a 5 color creature it's a lot harder to win with coalition victory (but why would you put it in the deck then)

@TheGorick 5 ай бұрын

Play a second one if its so short! Also loved that Seth actually brought a deck that can't win... and won with it... crim and seth team up continues? :p

@zaclock-4228 5 ай бұрын

This new season explains why in a normal play group, you cannot strictly count on fog meta to win a game. Most players playing red or black will build their deck in a way that can win outside of combat.

@andrueurbane7361 5 ай бұрын

Count on no. But man that was a sick memorable play.

@CentaurionArcher 5 ай бұрын

Whoosh and sound effects are a better volume this week. Thanks for the video!

@TMidander 5 ай бұрын

Great theme, and I really like the editing :) Especially the T Pro fade out

@Varler_ 5 ай бұрын

That was a really fun game! I love seeing these games where salty cards are played but no one gets salty.

@Maverickstyg 4 ай бұрын

I love this visual format. Editing is on point

@stevomac102 5 ай бұрын

I have not watched CC in a long while. Coming back and seeing beautiful cardboard on tabletop instead of clunky MOTO was such a pleasant surprise. Loved it guys

@JR-xv6mv 5 ай бұрын

This was, interestingly, some of the better content you guys have posted! It's actually fun watching broken magic rather than jank.

@alexfrank594 5 ай бұрын

This was a really fun game! Lots of weird interactions and I loved the deck concepts. Now I'm gonna be That Guy: Teferi's protection says your life total can't change. At around 32 minutes, Richard cast Vampiric Tutor after casting Teferi's Protection. If it still worked like the original wording "Pay 2 life, tutor a card" he actually wouldn't be able to cast it at all since Teferi's Pro prevents you from paying life. Luckily oracle texts makes losing the 2 life no longer a cost, so it turns into all upside. Richard should have been able to tutor without losing the 2 life.

@lutherturk5375 5 ай бұрын

If everything is phased out, he shouldn't be able to cast VT. No lands to tap for mana. I don't know, maybe I'm missing something... 🤔

@alexfrank594 5 ай бұрын

@@lutherturk5375 He floated all his mana before casting TefPro. So he still had the mana for VT in his pool.

@lutherturk5375 5 ай бұрын

@@alexfrank594 Does Rule of Law phase out so he can cast 2 spells then?

@alexfrank594 5 ай бұрын

@@lutherturk5375 I'm pretty sure that's the case yeah. 1. Float mana 2. Cast and resolve TefPro, rule of law phases out with everything else 3. Cast VT

@qubingjianshen8210 5 ай бұрын

Vampiric Tutor is lose 2 life, not pay 2. So he can cast it for just 1 mana without losing life since his lifetotal can not change.

@SleepTight7474 5 ай бұрын

The transition to spell table games has been amazing for Commander Clash. I hope this is something you guys plan to continue doing for the foreseeable future.

@RyanEglitis 5 ай бұрын

Much tighter play this week - well done everyone, especially with that boardstate.

@lukecraig4984 5 ай бұрын

Absolutely love this format of commander clash!

@valgeir80 4 ай бұрын

Everyone yapping at the same time while a player is taking and explaining actions, is super fun to listen to.

@Cloudy573 5 ай бұрын

Love seeing Phil use the ODY 346 mountain! That's my favorite one.

@rosavanopheusden5211 5 ай бұрын

the editing on this is still off the charts! if I can make a suggestion, it would be nice to see the casting costs noted next to the commanders, rather than just the color identity

@etten4536 5 ай бұрын

Something that could be good would be to include the cost of the commander where it’s name is, and also add the commander tax each times it’s cast

@alexliang1040 5 ай бұрын

Props for the TPro overlay effect!

@cloudroth6 5 ай бұрын

Thsr past two commander clahses have been awesome. It feels like everyone is having more fun

@Skylersuzy 5 ай бұрын

Great content guys

@joebob1533 5 ай бұрын

You guys should do an episode where you use commanders not available on MTGO, like UB, backgrounds, or commander product stuff

@henrye3935 5 ай бұрын

I LOVE Wars Toll. I used to play it alongside Magus of the Tabernacle and Ghostly Prison, so - if you want to keep your creatures you can't attack, if you want to attack you can't keep your creatures.

@mac_arthurluu 4 ай бұрын

~ Love this!

@shanedutton888 5 ай бұрын

Loving the paper gameplay! Missed triggers are worth the shorter games to me.

@Arcadious10 5 ай бұрын

Love the show, I just miss seeing everyone’s hands. It gave insight on all the bluffing, and internal analysis. Hopefully we get another episode of the team vs others. Thanks for the content!

@florenttristan244 4 ай бұрын

Thank you guys. I was happy to see you all get banned and play savoury cards. I really enjoy that you record paper games. I feel that the passing priority on Magic Online is really killing the pace of the game on 4 players.

@ryanpena7327 5 ай бұрын

I think I prefer this over moto. Not only do you avoid the moto crashes and stuff, but moto tends to be slower overall when everyone has to say ok to every play and you see every trigger have to go on the stack. Sure you might make more mistakes but I think that can add to the fun! Keep up the fun content!

@alkhemia23 5 ай бұрын

only issue is they have a far less diverse card pool since they get all cards on MTGO for free unless they start using proxies

@ericfletcher7046 5 ай бұрын

Phil should include as many cards as possible that flip from the top. First the Cardmarket video and now this. He could probably even beat Crim's blind Counterbalance record.

@magnus6147 5 ай бұрын

I love this! I get that it’s harder to build paper decks but modo is so slow with the priority passes. What’s your setup with lighting and desk cams?

@omnomnomnath415 5 ай бұрын

The red Ojer with Nekuzar is pretty insane, would've loved seeing it on board. Add Pain Magnification with those 2 for extra salt.

@theturnonescoop9626 5 ай бұрын

Love the switch to paper

@malmasterson3890 5 ай бұрын

I saw ThalRog and immediately clicked, then read the title and realized, "Oh dear, it appears I'm being called out." I built my ThalRog deck in a very fun way though. Lot's of stuff to give my opponents goodies & battles, no other hatebears, and then obviously some landocrats stuff paired with +1/+1 counters for the win condition.

@Guevon_Pajaro 5 ай бұрын

Whoa! I didn't see the IRL CC coming!!

@JalebJay 5 ай бұрын

The decks I'm afraid to run did their work. I love it

@danielborkowski291 5 ай бұрын

Seth's "Clash On" frustration is everything. Glad that he now understands Tomer's struggle.

@Bigtasty63 4 ай бұрын

Wait does Esper Sentinel still trigger while you’re T Proed? I did not know this and have been missing card draw in some spots?

@LordDrieg 5 ай бұрын

4:00 I can't even read some of that handwritten list in the right image. Dunno if it's the redditor's white board or the LGS's but whomever it belongs to, freaking print out your banlist in standard, legible type so people can read it without struggling. 😵

@wafflehaxxx 5 ай бұрын

Nice, finally some gameplay that represents an average day at my LGS.

@a7wingedsheep 5 ай бұрын

I love this episode! Hive mind and Humility are some of the most fun cards to me.. ... Am i the baddie?

@NyahBoyOwO Ай бұрын

Run more counters, mulligan to have interaction and a combo piece or tutor in your hand. The deck mulligans really well and can go down to 5 without issues. Is easy to fall on the trap of pursuing a lot of ramp in the deck in your opening hand, while it can be good, remember you want to combo ASAP.

@KILOWATTE 5 ай бұрын

I love these camera works so much more than playing online :) keep up the good work guys

@OvAeons 5 ай бұрын

Am i missing something? Wasn't hive mind still out when wheel of misfortune was cast?

@MTGGoldfish 5 ай бұрын

It was, maybe we should have explained it better, but basically everyone except Crim picked 0 for all the copies so they wouldn't have to wheel (and die to all of Crim's enchantments). Crim picked 1 for one copy to wheel and then 0 for the rest.

@jonart8433 5 ай бұрын

Another reminder that Blood Moon is casual in a casual playgroup. Run it my dudes.

@VivBrodock 5 ай бұрын

I wish more people would play Blood Moon and Back to Basics. I pretty exclusively play mono-black and I wish that people would do things that help mono-color decks. Like one time on mtgo I played a game against mono-white, mono-red and a WUBRG deck, the red player jammed bloodmoon and the other three decks just stomped the non_basic.manabase deck.

@Bongus_Bubogus 5 ай бұрын

Imagine doing that to someone running the Jared precon 💀

@54SCV8 3 ай бұрын

With all of the mana rocks available nowadays, you are slowed but not completely out of the game. If your deck has no single target permanent spot removal, you should really reconsider your deck building

@Spirited_skiing 5 ай бұрын

This is one of the best themes ever, it’s so funny

@RuneRaged 2 ай бұрын

Funnily enough, because of how my group dose our own ban list for Commander, we dont play by the Commander Rules Committee set of Rules

@Pazlum 5 ай бұрын

i love this style of playing over moto

@davidgiroux8789 5 ай бұрын

That was a super cool game !!

@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 2 ай бұрын

man i wanna play with phil, the man never complains and never bullshits

@Thaelkor 5 ай бұрын

Phil is hilarious. Seth and Phil mid-game banter is great.

@smack80 Ай бұрын

are Crims lands not phased out so he doesnt get any avenger of zendikar tokens?

@jamiekuryla3940 5 ай бұрын

great game

@themagicgeek4765 4 ай бұрын

I'm not sure if it would've mattered in the long run, but Richard Vamp Tutored after the T Pro. He shouldn't have lost 2 life from the tutor as his life total can't change. Also, you don't take commander damage under Teferi's Protection as you have protection from everything.

@lorddread30 5 ай бұрын

I don't mind the live play, especially for trying commanders not available on mtgo, but definitely prefer moto, the fact that it does all the rules work and triggers is a big sell, and a big part of why this is the only commander show I watch

@lorddread30 5 ай бұрын

Also, love your content, you're the only people I stay subbed to on patreon

@aklepatzky 5 ай бұрын

Lol mtgo sucks paper magic is the way

@RumpledNutskin 5 ай бұрын

I've never been more excited to see Richard play a deck! MLD is right up his alley (Edit: and mine as well)

@moralessanchezoscarelias6412 5 ай бұрын

Love the face cams!

@maahirashid5385 5 ай бұрын

Crimothy and the Codfather rocking the same mat.

@orrfannut9527 5 ай бұрын

I love salty games lol! My play group has land destruction players, mindslaver players who will recur it from the graveyard with muldrotha, Zacama turbo ramp and Eldrazi enjoyers. I have a mono black deck with both dictate of erebos and grave pact, running creatures like fleshbag marauder and demons disciple. I run a bunch of reanimation to do it every turn so I'm the only person with creatures on the board and top it off with big flying beaters to swing for 10-20 each turn

@williammartin172 4 ай бұрын

Id love for one of you to play my Ob Nixilis Captive Kingpin deck, I want to know how quickly I'd get booted from an LGS 😅

@Strakneus 5 ай бұрын

At 29:40 doesnt everyone get to wheel from all the Wheel of Misfortune copies since when you all choose 0, nobody technically choose the lowest number? So the table would take all the damage from the Spitefull Visions and all that?

@tierfunmtg 5 ай бұрын

Each player who didn't choose the lowest number wheels. That means if you choose 0, necessarily the lowest number, you will never wheel.

@Strakneus 5 ай бұрын

@@tierfunmtg oh, my bad.... the text still gets me sometimes.😅

@peterelpanda304 4 ай бұрын

Can I Get Richard deck list? im trying to make the same deck but it doesnt work

@ImpossibilitySpace 5 ай бұрын

Any chance of doing an episode where you build around a card that isn't on MTGO? For years, you guys have been stymied by MTGO's cardpool when it came to commander exclusives, so it would be cool to have a game to show these cards off.

@PolGamesOnTwitch 5 ай бұрын

Where is the link of the Nekusar deck?

@Optimator7 5 ай бұрын

Fun!

@sebastianahrens2385 3 күн бұрын

Those ban lists :D Lab Man: BANNED Thassa's Oracle: This is fine. What

@tomfisher6422 2 ай бұрын

Currently, my LGS has only one banned card: Thassa's Oracle. It was hilarious that the deck that was only there to force a draw ended up winning...

@davidwipperfurth8465 5 ай бұрын

So Spicy, I think I need Pepto! Keep playing these cards so we don't have to.

@ursulcx299 5 ай бұрын

Question, wouldn't the mindslaver stay because it's phased out my teferi's protection or am I missing something?

@Niuttuc 5 ай бұрын

The Teferi's Protection is cast in response to the activation of Mindslaver targeting Richard. Since sacrificing Mindslaver is part of the cost of activating its ability, it was already in the graveyard when Teferi's protection was cast (and resolved)

@ursulcx299 5 ай бұрын

@@Niuttuc Rightio, thank. I misremembered it as "Then sacrifice it"

@ishotthepilot2904 4 ай бұрын

Love yalls channel and yall are by far my favorite commander group I watch. This was a great game and it was entertaining to see Seth get somewhat “angry” for once at his own spells. I think Spelltable is nice to shake things up on occasion, but it is not my preferred way of viewing. MTGO it is much easier to distinguish between cards, see where they are placed, and it also allows you see player’s hands. It’s not always intuitive to follow what’s going on in spelltable.

@jamesbeanmachine857 5 ай бұрын

Crim's deck is too sweet this week!

@DaxRaider 5 ай бұрын

because no armagedon was played we still need an episode with land destructions xD

@AlthalusKanemtg 5 ай бұрын

Im curious, what made the MTG Goldfish crew change to paper? Was it due to the flexibility of cards and avoiding MOTO problems?

@mct685 5 ай бұрын

i think they said it mainly had to do with so many cards they want to try not making it to modo

@jcdb2582 5 ай бұрын

This is one of the more enjoyable games ive watch in a minute for laughs. Comparable to slivermania 😂

@rexone9564 5 ай бұрын

Oh, paper magic AND a reasonable game time. Watching for sure!!

@camilovargas1722 5 ай бұрын

Clash on!

@terrencemurphy380 5 ай бұрын

Enjoy the new format

@Silchain 4 ай бұрын

I dont think you can put all the damage triggers below all the draw triggers.

@Welverin 5 ай бұрын

42:47 IT doesn't matter, but can you? I do believe all card draw is done individually, so you draw your card for the turn and take damage, before the draw triggers for the cards you have on the battlefield would go on the stack (separately).

@Niuttuc 5 ай бұрын

The card drawn at the beginning of the draw step is a turn-based action, it happens automatically when the draw step begins. Then, all impending triggers are put onto the stack at the first occasion, which includes the two individual card draw triggers from the two sources, and the two damage triggers from the draw step draw. Since Crim controls all of them and they're all placed on the stack at the same time, he can decide the order, and squeek an extra draw like that. Of course, as soon as he draws his first extra card, the damage trigger from that go on top of the stack and he can't draw the second extra card before taking the damage

@Welverin 5 ай бұрын

@@Niuttuc o.k., thanks for the clarification.