I can't believe my shitpost about June 2018 FTK formats actually made it into the mid credits, I'm fucking dying
@Whayumean6 ай бұрын
Yo guys if he dont reply back to my comment in 2 days I believe hes dead
@charlesfort66026 ай бұрын
XD
@edymiguel42476 ай бұрын
Instead of the intro and such, they should have put this at the beginning. FTK means First Turn Kill and for it not to be the first thing... yeah
@hhappyduck6 ай бұрын
@@Whayumean f
@cetitanenthusiast7765 ай бұрын
Watching people having to suffer through that FTK format would be kinda funny though, ngl
@Ruby_Mullz6 ай бұрын
I can’t believe no one is talking about this, but Yuginono discovered a 4 day format from 2015 where dimension of chaos is legal, along side all the due list alliance decks. It’s called finish line and i recommend checking it out!
@mophead16666 ай бұрын
This one has so much potential! Probably the best for the DUEA era!
@edymiguel42476 ай бұрын
Definitely I wanna play it, but atm there's no real community on it
@DARKVEEMON16 ай бұрын
So true, Finish Line is amazing
@robin29345 ай бұрын
@edymiguel4247 What's your discord/steam name? I would love to play this with someone.
@TheForeverRanger6 ай бұрын
HAT might be it. Large number of decks, plays very different from modern, and is very much unexplored.
@Linkiscool1156 ай бұрын
HAT is the best retro format imo, everyone always sleeps on it and is way more diverse than people think.
@tefa89276 ай бұрын
Literally the correct answer
@absolutionveil86326 ай бұрын
Genuinely surprised I didn't see him talk about HAT at all in this video. Was sure that would be one of the big 3 that most people wanna see happen. Up there with Tengu Plant and TOSS
@danlay6386 ай бұрын
HAT will definitely get popularized, though for me any format where soul charge is at 3 is to be avoided
@crunchyapples5966 ай бұрын
I'm hoping for it.
@duckgossip6 ай бұрын
Can't believe no one picked the true best retro format, the first one! Who doesn't love normal summoning dark magician and gaia, only to get dark holed into oblivion. Pure grind game as both players wail on each other with silver fang, such incredible diversity too.
@DeviousHands6 ай бұрын
2121'S NOT WORTH - oh wait, the OCG format. ...did we ever get the JJ intro translated into JP?
@tootsie_6 ай бұрын
I picked this format but wasn't there for the stream
@manjackson27726 ай бұрын
I mean yeah it kinda sounds like it could be fun, in the same way that pokemon gen 1 ubers is fun. And I got both those opinions from the same person, he's called Reverend, go watch his videos.
@JorgeLuiz4876 ай бұрын
Bring back the hitotsume giant meta
@BagaJr6 ай бұрын
Early OCG was rough, but the first ever TCG format is pretty fun, some people call it Yugi-Kaiba after the starter decks
@ObeliskTGS6 ай бұрын
My group has been talking alot about "Dallas Format" which is mid to late 2015 with Hi-Speed Riders being the last set release. It's the last format in which Nekroz and Shaddoll are playable before getting culled on the next banlist, the Clowns are legal and so is Gamma. That's an interesting one to go back to since it took years for players to use Gamma as a HT and not part of Psy-Frames.dek.
@Ruby_Mullz6 ай бұрын
U talking about finish line format?
@justatraveler096 ай бұрын
Yes! I loved this format. So many cool decks held together by the great clown engine. I think this is a perfect representation of the best parts of the ARC-V era
@OutbackYGO6 ай бұрын
Oooh this sounds super sick have you guys found any undiscovered decks that could have been rogue at the time?
@ObeliskTGS5 ай бұрын
@@Ruby_Mullz no. Before that. Finish line format is post DOCS with dark destroyer
@Honest_Mids_Masher6 ай бұрын
I'd definitely be overjoyed if post AGOV became a retro format later on. Definitely one of the best and most memorable formats we've had in a while that almost everyone enjoyed.
@jamessimbolon38876 ай бұрын
Every year a new runick deck will be discovered
@Honest_Mids_Masher6 ай бұрын
@@jamessimbolon3887 Every single one discovered by Joshua Schmidt.
@Sunsaparilla6 ай бұрын
@@jamessimbolon3887 Hell, we already have Earthbound Runick, Ghoti Runick, and Snake-Eye Runick this year! And Ice Barrier Runick is being tested as we speak!
@ThreeHundredandThirtyThree6 ай бұрын
Except pak lol
@nateisi84226 ай бұрын
Wonder what that format would be called
@PatJamma6 ай бұрын
HAT not mentioned despite being the most diverse meta I have ever played in.
@weckar6 ай бұрын
Some call it diverse, others call it chaotic
@meathir49216 ай бұрын
HAT has not stood the test of time Infernity is nuts.
@reydragon25976 ай бұрын
HAT has Emptiness legal, literally unplayable
@axelt63124 ай бұрын
@@meathir4921 Infernity was already nut when it's was the current format, remember seing it all the time on devpro at that time
@MrZacdeathАй бұрын
@@reydragon2597 Nonono thats why its playable.
@pascalpennell88496 ай бұрын
Water-Fire (Jan 2014 - Post LVAL) and September 2012 are some of my absolute favorites. Huge amounts of diversity and really enjoyable gameplay for people who enjoy slower formats.
@Smallsmallrose6 ай бұрын
Yes, this one is the best retro format that isn't talked about like Edison/GOAT (Yet, I hope it is.)
@norfar3776 ай бұрын
I think the thing I like most about the twitter threads are Dires intros
@toadallynoodle54146 ай бұрын
Common Dire W *Gigachad music plays*
@keagenreynolds40906 ай бұрын
Some people from my locals were trying to have a rotation of tengu edison HAT and goat but only edison is getting much attendance
@JacobPerry16 ай бұрын
Power of the elements format was really exciting in my opinion. End boards were insane but known and decks that like tearlament and spright could and did play into them well/well enough. And 2014 Vegas format is like HAT format but without soul charge. A very fair format. The end of dragon ruler’s dynasty and post water and fire format the format is truly the “Edison of the xyz era” since it occurred within a week before the release of soul charge.
@Altergeist6 ай бұрын
correct im sad POTE was not discussed at all
@nathanscott7296 ай бұрын
As someone that actually plays TOSS, I don't think it will go much higher, while the Decks are extremely fair, even the non tier'd ones. HOWEVER the staples are so blowout, Mystic Mine, Imperial Order, Red Reboot, Pankratops, Lancea. It's just not as fun as it was back in 2019 as we have had actual fair formats since TOSS
@Lakosius6 ай бұрын
YCS San Jose 2015 , it was a time when Dimension Force was released but before the next banlist came into Effect , its like a 4 days Window but all the DUEA Decks were all still playable at that specific Event.
@bencrandall-malcolm83036 ай бұрын
I assume you mean Dimension of Chaos? DIFO was the 2022 set with the Scareclaws and the Therions
@calumbishop70826 ай бұрын
When you consider a lot of the old retro formats, the 'Heart of the Underdog' formats where you can basically create your own custom banlist, Rivalry of the Warlords formats where you use pre-assigned decks (of any of your customisation), Sealed formats for set releases (it doesn't always work but its worth trying to see if we get a banger), Common Charity, some of the weird unexplored old side formats like Double Deck, 'Air, Earth, Fire and Water', Mega-Banned, and Beta formats. And that's just the tip of the iceberg... (and that's also not to mention stuff like Speed Duels or Rush Duels or the Video Game formats). The problem is Konami doesn't really support most of them. And that just leaves us in a situation where we only really have a handful of recognised formats.
@MasterForte6 ай бұрын
I thought HAT format would be mentioned, as it is a well balanced format as well. Duelist Alliance/ New Challengers is good as well.
@Pleia_Ds6 ай бұрын
Maxx C in Tengu is actually pretty balanced because so many of the decks can play around it
@skuamato78866 ай бұрын
agree, the problem imo with tengu plant is that it's too similar to edison that they probably cannot coexist. I'd argue that tengu plant is better then edison but edison is already well established
@geek5936 ай бұрын
Yeah, Maxx C doesn't ruin anything in HAT either. The card was perfectly fine before the pace of the game shifted and every deck started trying to build game winning boards out of their opening five. Maxx C was actually doing its job for about four years before the scales tipped.
@nonifuji15666 ай бұрын
MBT just resorts to scrubquotes when losing in Tengu, don't worry about it
@N120153 ай бұрын
@@skuamato7886Yeah, I've played both formats and... They are almost identical. You're still summoning Catastor, Brionne, Stardust and Black Rose, archetypes still use a lot of single-monster removal traps, the pacing is roughly the same and there's still busted stuff like Trap Dustshoot, Return from Different dimension, Heavy Storm or Future Fusion. Also, the few additions don't really make the game better. Utopia is unironically the best Rank 4, BLS, Trishula, Dark Hole and Monster Reborn make the game very swingy, Tengu just refuses to die, Tour Guide makes Sangan busted and too easy to return a banished monster, it has 2 extra copies of Solemn Judgment and 3 MST feel like overkill when you have still heavy storm making so backro feels kinda worthless. Effect Veiler is nice, and so are the forbidden quickspells, Pot of Duality, Scrap Dragon and no royal oppression, but is not enough.
@yunleung2631Ай бұрын
Agreed, I never get this argument. Maxx C does SOMETHING, but the most you'll get is 2 cards.
@jaybojones34736 ай бұрын
I think perfect circle format is a format that should be played more.
@hi-pwr6 ай бұрын
The GX era is so underrated
@BrandonConnollyFilms6 ай бұрын
I loved TOSS format. Played Zombie World control the whole time and would 100% play it again
@ponyman136 ай бұрын
zombie gang rise up. I thought the same thing
@The_Great_Butler6 ай бұрын
Since no one mentioned it, Tactical Evolution / GLASS format. The banlist had just come out to get rid of some heavy hitting staples like Metamorphosis, Confiscation, and Snatch Steal, as well as limiting Trap Dustshoot, and there were some genuinely cool decks like Zombie being playable. CCV is the main thing keeping it from being something more, I would guess.
@Stardust_2626 ай бұрын
The easy solution is to not allow people to play with prize cards (CCV, Gold Sarc). It’s more balanced and accurate to what it was like in 2007.
@kalopad63556 ай бұрын
I was going to answer Six samurai format, because who doesn’t love playing a deck with 4 rotas 3 pot of greed and 3 cards that say win the game! But I really just want to play my pet deck. So I’m good with any format in which six sams is playable (so I guess I’m fine with meadowlands)
@Smallsmallrose6 ай бұрын
I'm surprised he didn't make a comment on FireWater, I saw it mentioned a couple times in the thread (Other than my own mention which I put in kinda late.) Its arguably the best post-ruler Zexal format, a few people adore it even more than HAT.
@kingnewgameplus64836 ай бұрын
Same, fire water is probably my favorite format of all time.
@Tokumastu16 ай бұрын
As a fellow Fire/Water enjoyer I agree. The format is very fun and dynamic.
@doctorrussia6 ай бұрын
Isn't that cause fire water format is solved? Like the best and only thing you can be playing that format is dark world and to play anything else is a fools errand
@frankdamsy97156 ай бұрын
That's a really good one
@Tokumastu16 ай бұрын
@@doctorrussia Nope, it's not solved. Darkworld is among the strong decks of the format, but its counters are so obvious and easily sided in that it just shuts down the deck immediately.
@ActivateMysticMine6 ай бұрын
NAWCQ 2015 and 15 respectively are the most fun I’ve ever had in Yugioh. HAT format has one of the widest deck libraries you can pick from and while Nekroz is the best deck in 2015 that format was very under-explored and who doesn’t love DUEA decks?
@Altilt6 ай бұрын
HAT is the single old format I'd go back to if play for it started picking up. I've seen that's there's a few tourneys and stuff but there's not enough attention to form a ladder somewhere yet.
@grafinakaasu90486 ай бұрын
yeah there's not really a ladder, but there's a pretty active discord server that hosts monthly tournaments which is like, more than most other alt formats have
@robertgreen64996 ай бұрын
We got a community playing the core 2 and rotating other random formats. My buddy got me to dust off the rust and play Troop Dupe Scoop Format. Like it is so much fun revisiting an old format with new age ideas. I feel HAT is most likely the true 3rd pillar, or at least from my community that plays the legacy formats. I bet as we get further away from some of the closer to modern day we will see some pop up. My community did try to play some of the covid formats, they didn't do so hot, but maybe with time we could see those formats also revisited since we didn't really get to play them.
@SS4Inferno6 ай бұрын
I loved 2011/2012. Right before Inzektors and Wind-Ups. XYZ was new but not needed in every deck. Synchro Decks had plenty of varied support and had a lot of mix/match. Boss monsters were still fun. Masked Heroes I think were new. I was playing Heros or Flamvell Synchro with Chaos Support, and that latter sounds terrible but it was consistent and worked. Flamvells playing with cards like TK Rai-o and Summoner Monk. I could still expect to get Flamvell Firedog's effect in most games and not die for relying on battle-phase and not winning that turn.
@Saltymoles6 ай бұрын
The cheese stands alone!! Love seeiing the mtg refrences. I still watch you and joshua schmidt regularly even tho i dont play yugioh much these days
@AzzyReal6 ай бұрын
You gotta remember that alot of Toss players are Thunder players who have been left high and dry for the last 5 years, hell, even in the video you listed the other 3 decks as still seeing play but one of the four is noticeably absent, and for equally obvious reasons. Honestly wed be happy having our big dumb purple lizard back, but unless you play MD, theres no way to scratch the Colossus itch, even moreso in paper play.
@bl00by_6 ай бұрын
I don't think that anyone would be happy about a collosus unban except thundra players
@lukemacinnes51246 ай бұрын
good
@StarfieldDisarray6 ай бұрын
I misssed the thread but I'm glad someone repped Meadowlands, the first format when I started really getting into the swing of Yugioh I really felt the balance was in a Goldilocks zone.
@VanillaMidgetSSBM6 ай бұрын
My personal take: Pre RotD is a perfect little introspect into the format of early Xyz, you have Full power Inzektors Dino Rabbit Wind-Ups Ninjas Dark world Even Gravekeeper's to an extent
@frying-pans6 ай бұрын
One format that I’ve been trying to push amongst my friends is 2015 NAWCQ (Clash of Rebellions, pre-Norden release). You still have all of the DUEA era decks at mostly full power, plus stuff like early Kozmo, accessible Minerva Turbo/Clownblade, and a lot more. Only real downside imo would be Towers Turbo being around, but luckily we had a wave of Kaijus by then
@MiyaoMeow5886 ай бұрын
I think I may have seen more mentions of HAT in the thread than TOSS which, based if true
@tyranitararmaldo6 ай бұрын
HAT deserves another look in. "Wah wah wah it's slow!" yes, games don't end at the speed of a sneeze, some people enjoy that. It has all the tools of XYZ & Synchros, before Dualist Alliance came along and went "only play cards from this set now". There's a TON of unexplored variety in HAT format, outside of the namesake. I often look back at HAT as the "king of rogue" format, as with enough good XYZ monsters and staple traps, you can make nearly anything work. Hell, I played Cloudian during that format for a while...and did decently with it.
@goldenarmour79756 ай бұрын
The format has innovated as people realized the Hands aren't that good and that both doubling-down on artifacts (instead of only Morral + Sanctum) and Cardcar D was the best way to play the deck. Mermail, Geargia, Spellbook, Rulers, Infernity, Madolche and Bujin all compete very well with different version of Artifacts and rogue decks like Gravekeeper Artifacts have managed to top recently. There are a lot of lower power but still strong and fun other decks like Constellars, Koa'ki, Spirits, Ghostrick, etc. The format has turn 1 shenanigans, as most legacy formats have for some reason, but unlike Edison, it has handtraps meaning you have a chance. Overall, you're gonna draw maxx "C" more in the Infernity matchup than they're gonna pop off turn 1. (which was keegan's biggest complaint which he's obviously simply wrong about as infernity is less consistent on turn 1 plays than frog FTK) Soul Charge is really an annoying card but no format is perfect as every format has Overpowered and clunky cards (Emptiness is legal too).
@kimera2k96 ай бұрын
@@goldenarmour7975 correct me if im wrong but wasnt HAT format solved as the best thing you could play was infernity XYZ? I read that somewhere i did not expercienced it myself
@goldenarmour79756 ай бұрын
@@kimera2k9 that's not how it looks like in tourney. Infernity is like 3rd-4th best deck (still by far the best combo deck of the format). I would say if it's solved then the best you can play is CAT.
@Mikk20206 ай бұрын
@@goldenarmour7975what’s the “C” stand for?
@tinypokemon66556 ай бұрын
Bro Agov pre ban list was so much fun I really hope It can take off as a format l.
@maisterchatn85296 ай бұрын
I could really see Tear Ishizu format after the ban of Mytic Mine being a thing. Even if this format was Tear 0 and nothing else, the game was in a state where when a Tear duel occured, it was the best player who wins. It was unfair to play with another deck, but this match-up was really fun to watch and very skill-rewarding. Also, the match-ups of the other decks of the format (Kash pre-Ariseheart, madolche, floo, swordsoul, crystal beast) are cool even with Shifter in line.
@dylans71416 ай бұрын
Perfect Circle format is slept on
@Flash-Earth20206 ай бұрын
Still got mine built from yester-year
@Rain5936 ай бұрын
As someone who took a break just before Duelist Alliance (until Tear format)... that's my vote. It seems like such an interesting format that I feel stupid for missing out on.
@glimmerkepu6 ай бұрын
In my opinion the next Edison shloud be one that includes a generic low-power XYZ toolbox, most of the classic XYZ era decks like Fire Fists, Mermails, Geargia, Fire Kings, Evilswarms and healthy cards like Pot of Duality.
@jordanklikucs99956 ай бұрын
2023 post September banlist prior to AGOV release was such a interesting one, wish we could’ve gotten more time with that than the one YCS (Dortmund)
@frankdamsy97156 ай бұрын
I'ma still say 2014 nats format (HAT format). Probably my favorite format in all of Yugioh. It just felt like you could play just about anything and so long as you were competent you'd have something that if not "the best" was at least playable in a competitive setting.
@DeltaZapdos6 ай бұрын
For TOSS perhaps the format for the Panama City UDS invitational that Jesse Kotton won would be best? It’s after the Mermaid ban but also pre-Chaos Impact. One Major issue with TOSS era Yugioh, however, is Mystic Mine which could very easily drag down any part of TOSS post Dark Neostorm. It would have to be after to April 2019 list though.
@aaa1e2r36 ай бұрын
I'm surprised none of the showcased were HAT or Fire Water Format, these were a really good place in the zexal era where you could go into a solid rank 4/5 tool box, solid synchro stuff and so on.
@Alkah3ist6 ай бұрын
I really want Tengu Plants or FireWater format being the next one to be popular
@9clawtiger3 ай бұрын
Take me back to YCS Toronto 2012 I know we can crack that Grandsoil Psychics Deck.
@androidboyd6 ай бұрын
Getting the community to agree to a rule change would be nigh impossible, but I think several retro formats could be improved/fixed by changing the parameters that the format follows. Like, many retro banlists are bad, often more to push new product as opposed to creating a diverse and fun play experience. Some intelligent tweaks could push "ok" formats into "great" ones, imo.
@driptcg6 ай бұрын
June 2017 Format is an interesting one cuz it was the 3 week period after PEVO dropped but before "Link Format" (MR4) where the new Pendulum Magicians were full power and yet went almost completely under the radar (understandably so, since Tier 0 Zoo was still running around.) That deck was honestly very fun and sadly would never see the light of day again (at least not in the same way) due to the later mechanical nerfs to Pendulum
@mexicoj006 ай бұрын
I was playing zefra during that time I just want a format where I can play them again at its peak
@driptcg6 ай бұрын
@@mexicoj00 definitely agree, i mis midrange pendulum 🥺
@smeatar6 ай бұрын
I would do anything to be able to go back and play the schoolyard format, where half the cards were bootlegs and people just made up rules based on the anime and a quick glance at the card text.
@xCorvus7x6 ай бұрын
How about revisiting the various formats that turned out to be Tier 0 to check whether the supposed Tier 0 decks were actually that much stronger than the competition?
@thereyes36236 ай бұрын
What format was it that had Ultimate offering at 1 shock master at 1 i think it was 2010 or 2011? All decks had an equal chance of playing in a grind game..
@willooo096 ай бұрын
I’ll be the ass to pitch post-goat/early GX. A lot of the broken goat cards are banned out, but enough are still limited/semi for some big plays (triple trunade a premature burial anyone? Graceful charity and ring of destruction at one?) Ik it’s basically goat-lite, but I do honestly love the pace of the game at that time
@clairbeeguitar6 ай бұрын
Is there any point in trying out a format like pioneer or modern with yugioh? Where you set a cutoff date that is well in the past and move forward. I figure with powercreep and agressive banned lists this is kind of a moot point - though it could be a way to soft ban maxx c in master duel. Something like Duelest Alliance (or the equivalent there of) forward as a master duel only format. I'm sure people would be mad about not being able to play mushroom man #2 but it does seem like an easier pill to swallow than a standard rotation.
@CarlosGarcia-lo6xf6 ай бұрын
I hope some retro format of post cyac pre current banlist catches on, on top of the format just being super diverse, I wanna play Mathmech, and even with circ at 1 I optimized the deck so much I felt that it was in it's prime, even back during pote format it's night and day what cyac support does to the deck
@felixengel4442Ай бұрын
The 2016 Format with Pepe/Ba/Kozmo/Monarch was the Format i really understand how to play Yu-Gi-Oh. I played it as a kid but i didn't had friends who watched the show longer then the original DM so nobody had cards or anything, so i forgot about it for years, then I heard about Arc-V and that the Main Character has a go bonkers and do cool shit mode so i was back on it watched the show, learned how to read cards, and had much fun YGOPRO and other automatic simulators. So bring that format back to life.
@yumyumramirez6 ай бұрын
Never clicked so fast, it's time for another banger you guys!! 😁
@peterusmc206 ай бұрын
The intro was peak, big props to the editor on this.
@NinjaHylas6 ай бұрын
2013 to 2015 imo i know the banlist changed drastically during that time but that was height yugioh for me i topped my first ever regional with Mermail in 2014 i just love that deck hell i even played dragonsworn at that time and had tons of success the only issue is letting full rulers and judgement aloud due to the lower power lvl
@CaptinHavoc16 ай бұрын
I think that post POTE pre Mavens is an amazing format. The mirrors for the two best decks, Spright and Tear, are incredibly skillful and the play between those decks is also very intense. There were also plenty of other decks just below the surface that were very playable. I played Agents most of that format and it was actually putting up results!
@Smallsmallrose6 ай бұрын
Yes, this is an awesome one.
@nomnom24076 ай бұрын
I think a format pre-duelist alliance could work as a format
@Smallsmallrose6 ай бұрын
I believe that is HAT, actually.
@nomnom24076 ай бұрын
@@Smallsmallrose Isn't hat before dragon rulers?
@Linkiscool1156 ай бұрын
@@nomnom2407HAT is after dragon rulers, the format took place in 2014 just before DUEA.
@nomnom24076 ай бұрын
@@Linkiscool115 i've heard there are like variants to it or something as well.
@Linkiscool1156 ай бұрын
@@nomnom2407 yeah, most people play the 2014 nawcq version of the format.
@ThagomizerZ6 ай бұрын
Pre-Nekroz/Pre-Secret Forces or bust Amazing viability between BA, Shaddolls, Qli, but so much was viable like even U.A. had relevance because Mighty Slugger are Shaddolls and BA.
@thatlonewolfguy28786 ай бұрын
The other big 3 are TOSS, HAT and Tengu Plant right? Meadowlands sounds fun as well but that's cause I have a soft spot for Mermails, it was my deck in high school so I'll always want to play it, I'd agree on Duelist Alliance format for a top 5 retro formats that aren't "official" yet
@NinjaHylas6 ай бұрын
we also had decks like evilswarm that made Ophion ad just wrecked anydeck playing 5 or higher and could search its never touch me card i loved yugioh back then there was so many more possibilities to the format people were playing naturia back then as well was a great format imo hell while im thinking about it infernity started having some success then also bujin i could go on for days my personal favorite days of yugioh for sure
@dougdimmadomeownerofthedim53766 ай бұрын
Fire/Water, NWCQ Nekroz and NWCQ Zoo/Draco formats would be my top 3
@hamma52676 ай бұрын
Nobody mentioning dabl format pre ishizu is kinda wild that format was so sick so many different decks tear wasn't even figured out runick cards were still good enough to play it was a great time. Been messing around with a runick tear deck from that format and man it just makes me wish we had it for longer before ishizu
@crunchyapples5966 ай бұрын
I love post-Agov pre-January format too. Variety was the spice of life. Rogue decks like Madolche, Blackwings, and Marincess could top events. Unchained was fun to play against but not entirely unbeatable.
@Honest_Mids_Masher5 ай бұрын
Abyss Actors topped during that format
@Quasartist6 ай бұрын
I had never heard of Meadowlands format but I like the thought of it, but I am pretty biased toward Atlanteans. When Atlanteans were a big deal the game was at a place where landing your boss monster was generally enough of a push to win you the game, aside from getting the rug pulled out by trap cards (which is true for literally every other format pre-Imperm), and you could have some explosive turns to really turn up the heat but that wasn't EVERY turn, because the ceiling was high enough to make your cards feel cool to wield when you make a cool play but also low enough to where sitting on next to nothing for 1 turn wasn't detrimental, so you'd also have moments where just setting Snowman Eater could also net you a ton of mileage, but it wasn't the slow paced Yugi-boomer style tortoise of a game either. Xyz cards weren't so blatantly "I win" buttons like they became later on and cards that are laughable now like Gagaga Cowboy and Maestroke were extra deck staples, and quick effects were almost nonexistent so the game in general was way more back-and-forth. I'd love to participate in a format like what, where one of my favorite decks of all time doesn't get immediately power crept in the deck building process. Also, I've said this a few times before, but thanks you for specifically calling Satellarknights bad (not literally but you get it). I don't want to come off like "that guy" by saying it but I've always thought they were mid at best and Shaddoll never stopped being the superior deck between the two. No comment on Burning Abyss though because nobody in my circle or locals could afford to play them lmao.
@Tdirt1156 ай бұрын
dire killed it with the intro this week nice work
@deswide6 ай бұрын
Felt like this particular video for the thread was rather short for such a plentiful discussion, or there really weren't many formats on the video itself 🤔 I know every twitter thread video has to be around or exactly 8 minutes because algorithm and monetization reasons, but this one definitely had more room to be longer!
@spacecoyote61016 ай бұрын
I think there’s 3 formats that could potentially do it: 1. NECH format 2. Sept 2013 format 3. Sept 2012 (ABYR) format NECH format is an interesting triangle format that I’d love to see developed. It might honestly be the most extreme triangle format that’s existed since on paper the matchups in that format are super polarised. I reckon it’d be pretty interesting to see how such a format would develop to attempt to equalise the matchup spread, and the unique solutions people would come up with. September 2013 format is quite interesting due to the perceived dominance of dragon rulers. However, unlike the prior format, dragon rulers feel really fair in this format. We already had interesting developments like dragunity ruler in this format, and it overall feels quite unsolved. ABYR format is probably the best candidate. There are so many playable options during this format including; wind-ups, grandsoil psychics, rabbit, inzektor, chaos dragons, gravekeeper, chaos, horn of the phantom beast piles, hero beat, agents, mermail, etc. this format is super diverse and serves as a distinct step up in power from edison while being unsolved.
@thanatosxmesiah6 ай бұрын
AE Creation Pack 01 format is pretty fun and should be good retro format if people knew about it, only 3 good but not crazy ht (ash droll ogre), very few generic extra deck and no definitive best deck yet but there are multiple decks you can play
@haruhirogrimgar60476 ай бұрын
Meadowlands is super close to an ideal for me. It had Six Sams at a reasonable power level and relevancy so my Dad could play. Geargia is close enough to Guru control. I like messing around with Hunders and my Dad enjoyed toying with Constellars. The main issue is I would rather pull teeth than play against Mermail.
@kawaiiempoleon87216 ай бұрын
Now I want to know where you can play the format you mentioned I really want to try super quants they sound right up my alley
@KidInari6 ай бұрын
I wish i knew about the Duelist Alliance meta, i love PK FIRE and it’s the deck that made me get into the competitive yugioh meta
@danlay6386 ай бұрын
if you're playing duelist alliance, the meta is shaddoll, ba, and tellars. if you're playing new challengers (which in my opinion is just a better version of duelist alliance) it's a triangle format of qlis, ba, and shaddolls where each of those top three decks are good against one and bad against another (basically water fire grass starters in pokemon).
@Billy_Wyatt6 ай бұрын
I have to agree that yugioh needs more formats, it opens a lot of opportunities for more players to enjoy the game since they are able to choose what they see fit for them.
@xatuyou80456 ай бұрын
2019 format was one big flaw. The Ib ftk. It wasn’t explored during the format itself but it could be a serious problem in a format that doesn’t include nibiru.
@esoteric79906 ай бұрын
What about picking up a World Championship or Tag Force game to have a community around As a side format 2011 has Turbo Dueling where Speed World 2 is literally yugioh if it had manna
@sekaihunter93786 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly, there was a time period after the Eternal TOSS format was officially over following the banlist that murdered every single one of the "Big 4", but the next big things (Adamancipator and Eldlich) hadn't been released yet. I don't even know what to call this short period, but because that banlist was such a bloodbath, let just name this format after the card "After the Storm" for now.
@SpearMKW6 ай бұрын
good old Danger-Lunalight and Spyral's second coming due to Souls format. I dont think people are eagerly waiting to get full Spyral combo'd on.
@munchrai63966 ай бұрын
Yeah, this was also during the last few months of MR4. Had way too much fun with the release of Generaiders around this time.
@munchrai63966 ай бұрын
@@SpearMKW Yeah, that's true. I like the deck quite a lot, especially combined with Time Thieves, but it is definitely really strong. Deck was killed incredibly fast, so any opportunity to play it in a format without a roach infestation is welcomed
@Ms666slayer2 ай бұрын
That format is seeing badly by a lot of people because the best deck was Spyral, which no one liked.
@lilsunny73996 ай бұрын
i don't even know what to call it but like. early 2008 yugioh. Monarchs were King still, disk commander was either limited or banned (or both) meaning D-hero engine was still there but not as oppressive, DDT was a fun thought experiment, glads were around without Gyzarus and War Chariot and if you reach the mid parts of the year you hit Phantom Darkness and Light of Destruction without the early 5ds stuff that broke both..
@verbalengine956 ай бұрын
The 2016 NAWCQ format needs to include Dark Side of Dimensions and Dark Illusion to be good imo, so many decks get unlocked between the time of those sets and the banlist that the format doesn't have the necessary amount of diversity without them
@galaxystar66216 ай бұрын
2015 Dallas is one of my favorite formats of all time. However, 2015 San Jose, if you want more experimentation, is an extremely interesting format since it's right before the ban list but with dimension of chaos legal.
@JMFWHIHP.6 ай бұрын
Maybe it's because it's the format I got really into competitive Yu-gi-oh but the format in 2017 where the 3 best decks were Zoo and it's variants, True Draco, and Dinos. I feel like there were a lot of interaction points and it was a skillful format. Also there were a bunch of other decks that were viable like the Invoked variants and 60 card grass decks.
@oasisgaming70056 ай бұрын
Idk I mean tengu plant still isn't massive like Edison so why would other formats go up first?
@jeremiahriley6636 ай бұрын
im largly surprised that MBT didn't mention HAT format. I'd argue that HAT is probably an even better bridge to modern formats than Edison. It has "Problem solving card text" and the rules are largely the same as modern yugioh, with at least a few exceptions such as field spells as well as how chain links work.
@Linkiscool1156 ай бұрын
I find Edison to be really overrated, I've tried it and can't get into it. HAT is a much more fun format and doesn't get enough attention.
@goldenarmour79756 ай бұрын
@@Linkiscool115 agreed bro. edison is so overrated. BLACKWING VAYU BLACKWING VAYU BLACKWING VAYU BLACKWING VAYU BLACKWING VAYU. That's literally all you play against.
@Linkiscool1156 ай бұрын
@@goldenarmour7975 it's all I see being played when I see friends play it.
@loaizxsu6 ай бұрын
I agree with the fire fist mermail format, would be such a cool format
@daltronius2 ай бұрын
man i miss slash draw, my favorite lightsworn tech, it legit never missed, it either otkd, or set up my grave with great cards and put my jds back. man it sucks it was put to one, at least two please
@JakeFrost-e6w17 күн бұрын
I'd say Hat is a very good format. I say it's more of the Edison of Zexal, than any other format in that period. It's got some of the highest amount of viable decks in a format I've seen, the top decks are generally pretty fair for the most part, and the powerlevel and pacing is pretty much perfect for Yugioh imo. It's super fun to play and I wish that more people played it because I would LOVE to not ever have to touch dueling book to play my Geargia Karakuri deck
@tubbytoadinc-yugioh72206 ай бұрын
I was actually at the nawcq in 20q6 with gravekeepers i was 4-0 and my first loss was to utopia spam because I didn't have any non battle traps to stop lightning.
@cbored37786 ай бұрын
New Challengers, my opinion is one of the least explored formats of all time while carrying an amazing variety of decks. Shaddoll wasn't the absolute broken mish-mash of graveyard dependant archetypes (DIS) yet Qliphort showed what pendulum can do without being tier 0 like pepe showed later BA had some really cool tools to play with including techs like RUM astral force and with access to Fire Lake, alich, and rubic, giving BA access to synchros it gained a huge boost to their disruption There's even a large variety of solid rogue options which are more than capable of standing up to the higher tiers such as UA with access to midfielder and jersey, tellarknight with access to Triverr and can make use of the new rank 4 toolbox thanks to castel, dark rebellion and in previous sets exciton knight, 101, bujin tsukuyomi. I think that out of everything discussed, this one is the best even just to lab out and explore
@burntfish1236 ай бұрын
Lots of good options, though whatever gets the most traction I just want to be able to play kozmo or nekroz :)
@tomerator6 ай бұрын
What is the format that was right before POTE? That’s probably my favorite format with swordsoul being tier 1.
@Snivy_12456 ай бұрын
man, i was not expecting the cheese stands alone
@abcrx32j6 ай бұрын
I was expecting at least one HAT mention. Tbf, I only looked at it because of the Traptrix structure deck, but it's a fun format.
@xXbaker115Xx6 ай бұрын
2016 was peak yugioh for me
@oopsalldrip13766 ай бұрын
While I would love to see DA to make a comeback, I have extremely bad memories associated with vanity which is legal in DA and would rather leave the fun memories as just that. Fun memories when I my opponent wasn't blatantly cheating and stacking the deck to draw vanity in opening hand.
@Alderoth6 ай бұрын
Give me January 2015. Nekroz were top dog then, but Teledad could plop out 3 void ogres and dark law before they got a chance to go nuts. We has soul charge too. It was a really fun time.
@dosbilliam6 ай бұрын
Kind of surprised there wasn't a mention of Reaper Format, tbh. O.o
@Rossco10106 ай бұрын
I think post Dabl pre Mavens format would be a great one to have live on. Tear and spright at competing levels of play. It’s not till the Ishizu cards hit that it becomes a Tear 0 game. The bystials have just dropped, branded and swordsoul are payable, exosisters got all their support allowing them to compete, and probably a lot more decks because this format lasted only a few weeks then mavens dropped and Tear Ishizu became the only name in town.
@CommanderWar646 ай бұрын
CLASH OF REBELLION to DIMENSION OF CHAOS is a super good format. I don’t know which set is better.
@CommanderWar646 ай бұрын
If you ask me the best thing you could play was actually the cheapest decks in the room: Performage good stuff with reptiles and Luster Pendulum generally beat out Dark Destroyer decks. D/D/D was playable out of DOCS. Kozmo is strong but still beatable, and a ton of the older DUEA decks at this point still had legs.
@amazmo6 ай бұрын
I want to go back to the day of rank 4 decks.
@BoToChris6 ай бұрын
It's wild to me that MtG formats are about cards after a certain date and YGO's are about cards before a certain date.
@phucdisshiet68386 ай бұрын
No set rotation duh
@awxangel67816 ай бұрын
there are some yugioh formats that are more like mtg - such as N/R (on MD) and Trinity. They're just less popular than "Historic Standard" in a game with only one mainstream contemporary format at any one time.
@acooper113976 ай бұрын
Everyone that keeps talking about Maxx C being broken in tengu plant has clearly never played the format and it shows.
@the_real_rush6 ай бұрын
no mention of celtic guardian format is wild
@juliandominguez48666 ай бұрын
I really hope Photon Hypernova gets picked as a retro format later on. A very fun and extremely interactive format, with many good decks such as Branded, Krishta-la, and Labyrinth in the meta and even unsolved ones like sprigans, generators, gishki splight, and Dogmatica. My personal favorite format as well.