These Scrolls Got Destroyed by a Volcano, But It’s Fine

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The eruption of Mt Vesuvius buried the cities of Pompeii and Herculaneum, and one ancient library was burned to a crisp. However, scientists are now using machine learning and AI to decipher the writing on them and recover lost works of ancient philosophy.
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@MajoraZ Ай бұрын

I think it's sort of gross that this was a massively crowdsourced project, yet the final scanned images are copyrighted instead of being Public Domain. Actually, even if they WERE scanned totally through the work of one person, these are still ancient documents and should be in the Public Domain anyways.

@eponawarrior7492 Ай бұрын

"Mostly destroyed is still slightly intact" tell me why I was having flashbacks to that "mostly dead" scene from The Princess Bride 😂

@jaysnively1489 Ай бұрын

"Have fun reading the scrolls!"

@yelljal2764 Ай бұрын

Get back witch!

@iconoclastvii Ай бұрын

Now I'm craving MLT

@Ryan_but_the_name_was_taken Ай бұрын

MLT when the mutton is nice and lean

@twitchy_bird Ай бұрын

Why, that's inconceivable.

@MTerrance Ай бұрын

I like this new informal presentation style. It is more intimate and does not require the presenter to stand the whole time. It feels less forced.

@alecsyogacorner Ай бұрын

I like it too!

@jeromefitzroy Ай бұрын

Well looking at his girth, it doesn’t looks like he can stand that long anyways

@vivientakacs5599 Ай бұрын

@@jeromefitzroy Disgusting to say, but he has no problem doing it. He has been in many other videos before, mostly on side channels of SciShow.

@alecsyogacorner Ай бұрын

@@jeromefitzroyasshole, he stands in every other video and looks great doing it - take this attitude elsewhere

@jon.bo_ Ай бұрын

@@jeromefitzroyyou clicked on this video to learn something, but all you’ve done is reveal your inability to put aside your inside thoughts for the sake of a cheap jab. so, uh, congrats?

@Hurricayne92 Ай бұрын

This is what AI should be being used for not making terrible art and writing bad articles

@CrispyGFX Ай бұрын

Or min-maxing corporate profit at the expense of employee interests.

@Prismaticlysm Ай бұрын

More like making terrible art that is a stolen Frankenstein conglomeration from thousands of artists online... But agreed!

@nedludd7622 Ай бұрын

Also crappy voices that lousy channels use.

@asterlofts1565 Ай бұрын

I have news for you: The A.I. HE ALREADY DRAWS WELL (yes, even the hands and other details), so...

@fg786 Ай бұрын

Why not both? Watching this video I get the idea, that AI is used to do what is shown in the video about how AI is doing what is shown in the video.

@elisa.llew-send Ай бұрын

I love it when contests encourage scientific and engineering breakthroughs.

@raylopez99 Ай бұрын

True. Prizes for making an invention public rather than keeping it as a trade secret are underrated. Recall the receipe for Roman concrete was lost and only recent rediscovered, just one example of many.

@wildflower1397 Ай бұрын

They can encourage innovation and creativity, but they can also lead people to try and solve it on their own for the money. Working collaboratively with people from different fields is not only faster sometimes, but they prevent each other from making mistakes that can cause harm. This is especially true with a unique or historical object that cannot be replaced. For example, an expert on lasers would be much more successful if a historian helped them fully understand the materials and techniques used to create the item. One good thing, though, is it gives the money to the people doing the actual work, not big corporations.

@alexanderx33 Ай бұрын

Theres a very big difference between "mostly destroyed" and "all destroyed".

@astrayscot Ай бұрын

Yes, slightly intact, like he said.

@seajaytea9340 Ай бұрын

Do ancient scrolls have "loose change?" 🤣

@myuu22 Ай бұрын

Hey? Hello in there. Hey, what's so important? Whatcha got there that's worth livin' for?

@WhichSpringfieldAmThis Ай бұрын

@@myuu22 a nice mlt

@artor9175 Ай бұрын

@@myuu22 To blave!

@coeal2680 Ай бұрын

Enjoying the more relaxed, sit and chill style

@marcob1729 Ай бұрын

now if only they could change up the random quotes that they include exactly rather than paraphrasing… They often contain quirks of speech patterns in them. It’s really odd to me.

@Aaron-P Ай бұрын

In case the writer was worried no one would pick up a subtle Princess Bride reference, someone noticed. ❤️❤️

@Tim3.14 Ай бұрын

It would have been very interesting if the scroll were about Epicurean philosophy, but it clearly said "to blave".

@WhichSpringfieldAmThis Ай бұрын

They know their audience. I feel for the 5 ppl who didn't get it.

@yelljal2764 Ай бұрын

@Tim3.14 And we all know "to blaithe" means "to bluff" so you were probably playing cards and he cheated!

@FaultyMuse Ай бұрын

FIRST (a robotics group that runs competitions for kids) is HUGE on this idea of "part cooperation, part competition" and even has a term specifically for that, "Coopertition". RIP Woodie Flowers

@hawks9142 Ай бұрын

I had completely forgotten about that word! Me and my team where the winner at worlds on year but that was forever ago now. It was either when I was in 7th or 8th grade. We'd go around saying coopertition all the time cause we thought it was funny.

@eklectiktoni Ай бұрын

I really wish this was more common in STEM. Imagine how much progress would be made in treating diseases like malaria or cancer if this model was being followed in all medical research.

@angelitabecerra Ай бұрын

1:29 +1 for the *Princess Bride* reference

@emmam1161 Ай бұрын

“What do we got, John?” “It’s the Bible again!” *entire lab groans*

@monicarenee7949 Ай бұрын

I’m Christian but that was funny lol

@wendys9500 Ай бұрын

Lol I would personally find it interesting to see what differences there are between the ancient and modern translated biblical texts

@Techno_Idioto 28 күн бұрын

Just throw away anything found to be rewrites of that rag. It deserves to be lost to time. Same with all holy texts.

@zenfrodo Ай бұрын

I've been following the story of these scrolls for a couple years and I'm EXCITED that our tech has finally gotten to the point we can decipher them. I'm hoping we find missing/lost texts like the missing books of the Illiad. And your reference to The Princess Bride wasn't missed, btw. "Only mostly destroyed", indeed.

@Babygirlyouretheheart Ай бұрын

Imagining archaeologists 5000 years from now trying to recover my diaries from when I was 8 and giving away loads of money to whoever can read "today I ate glue"

@chatbear69 Ай бұрын

Can't get enough of this guy! I love that computers and AI are being used outside of chat bots and desk weights. Keep up the good work Reid and the SciShow team.

@TheAnon26 Ай бұрын

I love it. All that text, theres bound to be some never-before-seen stuff in there... Cant wait to see the results! 😁

@EMNstar Ай бұрын

Im hoping for Sapphic poetry

@WilliamScavengerFish Ай бұрын

He isn't dead, he mostly dead.

@MadMeeper Ай бұрын

I remember reading about this once the challenge had completed! Really exciting to see yall covering it, this is the beginning of a whole new wave of exciting historical knowledge!

@98Zai Ай бұрын

At first the new studio felt weird, after so many years. But now I love it! 😊

@JoeJaJoeJoe Ай бұрын

New set looks very cozy

@loganl3746 Ай бұрын

Those CT scan animations are making me crave croissants and phyllo treats 😂

@andrew24601 Ай бұрын

Loving the cozy living room set vibes instead of a green screen! (And laughing about how you’re technically an “armchair scientist” at the moment 😂)

@StrewthStoatPirate Ай бұрын

+1 for Miracle Max reference.

@Doctor-vn8es Ай бұрын

Looking chilled and casual there on your big comfortable chair Reid. Yet more brilliant fun science. Thanks guys.

@caspenbee Ай бұрын

This new fuzzy chair is giving such Cool Professor vibes

@MonoRoja Ай бұрын

Possible newly discovered Epicurean texts is extremely exciting! Epicurus is my favorite ancient philosopher, but we have very few writings that survived to today.

@cathybayne4429 Ай бұрын

I love the Princess Bride reference. Mostly dead = slightly alive.

@Syco108 Ай бұрын

This is some amazing stuff! Humans do really cool stuff when we work together and share information.

@_maxgray Ай бұрын

Love the Princess Bride reference at 1:30

@sombrerosrule Ай бұрын

The overtones in this man’s voice are insane!

@MrApocalisse 2 күн бұрын

My mom works at the national library of Naples, where this AI reconstruction was done, it's crazy to see it talked about here.

@RafaelRabinovich Ай бұрын

All this to read a piece from Epicuros telling you to enjoy life

@tengonadacluewhatsgutsprec1419 Ай бұрын

Thank you patreons!

@outlawbillionairez9780 Ай бұрын

Thank you, potatoes! 🥔 .... (🍟)

@stephanieparker1250 Ай бұрын

I love the set for the host, looks comfy 🤗

@marcob1729 Ай бұрын

Even as a kid, I thought it was incredibly sad that hundreds of these scrolls have been destroyed by people thinking they could unroll them

@troubledcactus2518 Ай бұрын

1:29 something something Princess Bride, something something “He’s only ‘mostly’ dead…”

@triviszla1536 Ай бұрын

Loving Reid's new casual / tropic studio setup

@Alice_Walker Ай бұрын

Very cool topic and I like this set. It's stylish and flatteringly lit and I enjoy the host sitting down and seeming comfy! 💜

@alexhurst3986 Ай бұрын

I love your new laid back set.

@MBMCincy63 Ай бұрын

Really enjoying the new background for this series. That chair looks mostly comfy... And last weeks Reid introducing himself on several older videos about the eclipse was funny but neat. Glad AI is able to assist with discovery of ancient scrolls. 🥶🖤🔔👍🏻❤️

@oyahfftlisawsome Ай бұрын

I watched, recently, the episode of Unearthed which showcased these scrolls. What a fun video to see

@DoctorEth Ай бұрын

Awesome stuff! Note on terminology though: 'parchment' refers specifically to the material substrate of any handwritten text, that is a scroll (in this case) made from prepared and stretched animal skins - not scrolls made from papyrus, which i assume is the case with these scrolls.

@Ruki9410 Ай бұрын

Loving this new set up!!

@clevercompiler Ай бұрын

I lost it with the Princess Bride reference.

@AlexWalkerSmith Ай бұрын

POV: You're in the waiting room at a pediatrician's office, and Reid is talking your ear off.

@victoriaporres2253 Ай бұрын

Love these videos

@mikeyd946 Ай бұрын

I love Reed 😊

@snackplissken8192 Ай бұрын

That would be quite exciting, since much of what we know about Greek and Roman writings come from partial notes and off-handed citations. We mostly have access to the stuff that survived to medieval Irish monks to copy and further survived burning from vikings.

@kariannecrysler640 Ай бұрын

I’m so excited about this 💯😁

@lesleyhahn8682 Ай бұрын

Inconceivable!

@yelljal2764 Ай бұрын

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

@zmpuffnstuff Ай бұрын

This is how society is supposed to work. Love it!!

@theanyktos Ай бұрын

This is a brilliant story, can't wait to find out what else they discover from these scrolls

@SciMinute Ай бұрын

Wow this shows the benefits of AI that aren't mentioned much these days!

@danha3107 Ай бұрын

this is why I love the potential of AI

@takumi2023 Ай бұрын

cool. i hope there will be some interesting writings discovered.

@PinkGrapefruit22 Ай бұрын

Ever since I first learned of this, I've been fantasizing about what could possibly be in there.

@TheRealLeesyKate Ай бұрын

Mostly destroyed is still slightly in tact? Okay, Miracle Max

@dondai2880 Ай бұрын

My first thought was yay new old things to read. My second was, I hope there's enough to make a new book or 10.

@DomyTheMad420 Ай бұрын

while on the one hand i want to go "they won the nobel prize for reading a scroll? >.>" on the other hand: they ONLY won a Nobel prize?! they read a scroll that got caught up and burried in a VOLCANIC eruption. This is one of the technologies anyone born less then 30 years ago should think not possible! :D amazing!!

@MG-vo7is Ай бұрын

Very cool.

@antiisocial Ай бұрын

Very cool

@michaelstevenson5044 Ай бұрын

There's so much dirt to uncover at Pompeii. There's bound to be more cool stuff there

@lindaseel9986 Ай бұрын

Yeah! It's Reid! Take it away, Reid!

@jimastra8488 Ай бұрын

Have fun storming the labyrinth! Think they will kill the minotaur? It would take a miracle...

@bnthern Ай бұрын

a total WOW!!!

@ricardoabh3242 Ай бұрын

Impressive

@TuyuqVampram Ай бұрын

"...philosophical musings on the subject of pleasure." Me: GET THOSE SCROLLS TRANSLATED, BOYS AND GIRLS!

@emmanuelsanchez9303 Ай бұрын

Sooo....im going to keep believing that it was a naughty scroll

@MorgenPeschke Ай бұрын

Ok, yes, the AI bit was cool, but the best part is that the winners had to share their techniques - and only made the biggest breakthrough _after_ that sharing happened. Yep: Power of Friendship FTW ❤

@feedbackzaloop Ай бұрын

What a glowup of Scishow green screen today! All hail clever computer algorithms!

@DJNebaJS Ай бұрын

Cool!

@scowell Ай бұрын

Humming B-52's now! Hot Lava!

@protocetid 27 күн бұрын

technology straight out of science fiction

@nexussix7933 Ай бұрын

I saw document restoration of a burnt document on MacGyver.

@eliscanfield3913 Ай бұрын

Historians are Epicurious

@user-kn3sv6jg4h Ай бұрын

Yeah, sure they are. To match whichever narrative they want it to fit. Elysium wasn't just a single time command code override, which is why Picard and Data designed a rolling fractal encryption that only a real keymaster can access through their mind's eye. The experiments with the Borg were horrific. You've never seen the scenes from First Contact where the Queen laughs as she rips the grafts off of Data's skin so that he could experience the process of assimilation like Picard went through. Coincidentally, you're doing it with my heart and soul here as well. The Wizard of Oz never offered to help me, even knowing what he knew observing me at USA Volleyball.

@verybighomer Ай бұрын

Maybe they finally find the first Pizza recipe.

@XenoDeicici Ай бұрын

With the power of modern science, and with all of our intelligence combined, we may finally figure out the knowledge that the ancient peoples figured out on their own just by thinking...

@barbatloosenutproductions2027 Ай бұрын

In history, having a competition/challenges, was used for a lot of great inventions and improvements! Think; Nobel Peace Prize.😊🧠💪❤

@jeromefitzroy Ай бұрын

Burnt is still not gone yet. Just because we can’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t not exist.

@EMNstar Ай бұрын

Can we do this with scrolls damaged by non volcano sources?

@96ace96 Ай бұрын

I saw those scrolls and had to question the premise of this video. Like, people can seriously read these? But then it turned out that yes. Yes, we can. We can absolutely read thousands of years old ashen and petrified scrolls with the help of increadibly advanced and precice hardware and software.

@yellowflowerorangeflower5706 Ай бұрын

Cool

@yelljal2764 Ай бұрын

"Whoo-hoo-hoo, look who knows so much. It just so happens that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead, there's usually only one thing you can do - go through his clothes and look for loose change. "

@ivanborsuk1110 Ай бұрын

The Elder Scorlls VI: Roman Empire

@culwin Ай бұрын

All the kids on Tiktok are doing the Vesuvius Challenge

@CSBastianyGaumnitz Ай бұрын

hell yeah. Skynet for the win.

@dashvash5440 Ай бұрын

Wow! That's so cool. I love the methodology and that they fostered creative solutions shared by the solvers. Also, its great that the prizes don't feel disrespectful and cheap.

@billyhart3299 Ай бұрын

What was the Common Event?

@wiggletonthewise2141 Ай бұрын

This is what AI is great for!! More of this and less of stealing intellectual property please!

@Winterfur1 Ай бұрын

Until Campi Flegrei erupts and destroys that area it is threatening to erupt

@user-jm9iw6mm9o Ай бұрын

Hey bro it's been a while

@General12th Ай бұрын

Bro

@3800S1 Ай бұрын

Purple is a fruit!

@wildflower1397 Ай бұрын

My question did they preserve the scrolls if they couldn't be read? They were brittle, blackened, and seemed completely useless, other than maybe to test their composition or date them. Did someone already understand that science would make them readable someday?