This Web Server Changed The Internet: The Cobalt RaQ

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Come along as we take a journey back to 1998 to learn about a small company called Cobalt Networks that changed the Internet as we knew it.
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00:00 - 1998
01:11 - Cobalt Networks
02:22 - Company beginnings
02:32 - Qube 2700
03:38 - RaQ server appliance
04:42 - Acquisition by Sun Microsystems
05:02 - Cobalt's legacy
05:24 - Cobalt RaQ 3
06:06 - First boot
07:14 - Hardware overview
08:55 - Second RaQ boot
11:02 - Second RaQ hardware
11:32 - Future plans
11:51 - Outro
#90s #server #internet

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@talksr
@talksr Жыл бұрын
I had one of these as a teenager. I used an ISP called ZEN who provided a static IP address with their broadband. I used the static IP to host multiple websites that I designed for customers. I ran this thing from the airing cupboard of my bedroom with an APC UPS. It earned me quite a few hundred pounds every year in hosting fees! 😊 I must check in my mum’s loft to see if it is still hiding there as I don’t think I ever sold it.
@MeiinUK
@MeiinUK 10 ай бұрын
Lol.... Still remember my first website too. And the e-commerce shop that I tried to help build. This is an interesting... Video... Because it basically means that, these mom and pops ISP then rolled over into the likes of Facebook's and things rolled up.... What was so stable is now not so stable.
@seansingh4421
@seansingh4421 10 ай бұрын
@@MeiinUKdont you mean the likes of AT&T, T-Mobile and such because Facebook is a different kind of hemorrhoid than an ISP
@adamzupancic7952
@adamzupancic7952 9 ай бұрын
@@seansingh4421 Actually you'd be surprised how connected and rooted Facebook was/is on the internet. It started it only for Harvard students, using Harvards network which at the time compared to other networks was pretty vast. Harvard contributed a lot. Hell Facebook has its own ASN and peers with other ISPs. They help support and provide service to the internet.
@telesniper2
@telesniper2 5 ай бұрын
I used mine to serve porn too
@Ballebek01
@Ballebek01 Жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, I turned off the last bunch of them only in January 2020, together with a bunch of HP NetServers, all from the 90's. These boxes were indestructable and indeed, together with the Cisco 7200 and 10k series routers, were the buildingblocks of the internet. There are many 7200's out there as well, still!
@user-fs9mv8px1y
@user-fs9mv8px1y Жыл бұрын
The company I work for has routers of that 2006 vintage still :)
@soundspark
@soundspark Жыл бұрын
They probably required newer software to run HTTPS, or was that why SSL accelerator units existed?
@MrOpenGL
@MrOpenGL Жыл бұрын
@@soundspark Reverse proxies probably
@soundspark
@soundspark Жыл бұрын
@@MrOpenGL Which were sold as appliances too back in the day.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Жыл бұрын
This was from the era when the US Government was still restricting the export of strong encryption, which meant crippled SSL certs. So a savvy guy named Mark Shuttleworth in South Africa decided to set up his own CA and issue full-strength certs outside the control of the US Government. My main client here in NZ at the time got certs from him.
@thockin
@thockin Жыл бұрын
Blast from the past!! I thought you might get a kick out of knowing that this video is making the rounds among the old Cobalt engineering team. :) As for the mobo - it was designed in-house. :)
@SiikPros
@SiikPros Жыл бұрын
Quick question from someone who doesn't know anywhere near as much as you... Were capacitors seen as the best solution back then? Was it known that they would fail in the way they do over time?
@PedroDaGr8
@PedroDaGr8 Жыл бұрын
​@@SiikProsNot sure if you left out a word but all motherboards have capacitors. They are needed for filtering and buffering the electrical demands of the chips in the system. You can't design a motherboard without them. Based on the time frame, the bad capacitor issues would have just started to become a known issue.
@SiikPros
@SiikPros Жыл бұрын
@@PedroDaGr8 I must look into capacitors then because my understanding of their function in motherboards seems to be off. I thought they had to do with managing power within the board to the different components.
@SiikPros
@SiikPros Жыл бұрын
@@PedroDaGr8 thank you for answering
@why1094
@why1094 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you might be confused with the VRM (Voltage Regulator Module)
@JohnWatkinsUK
@JohnWatkinsUK Жыл бұрын
These things were known as 'Pizza box' servers due to their formfactor. I remember going into datacentres in London's docklands and just seeing rack after rack after rack of them.
@theserialport
@theserialport Жыл бұрын
Telehouse North ? or where? :)
@JohnWatkinsUK
@JohnWatkinsUK Жыл бұрын
@@theserialport Redbus facilities like Soverign House and Meridian gate.
@eliotmansfield
@eliotmansfield Жыл бұрын
@@theserialporti saw them in THN
@foxiewhisper
@foxiewhisper Жыл бұрын
Same here, they were all over the place in the old redbus Hex 6-7 facility. I had to decommission three racks of these damn things back in 2007. They were being given away to staff for free at one point, presumably because it was cheaper than using e-waste suppliers.
@rufmeister
@rufmeister Жыл бұрын
"Were"? 1U servers are still known as pizza boxes. And there are still lots of data centers full of 1U servers, although obviously not from the Cobalt brand anymore.
@TheJonathanc82
@TheJonathanc82 Жыл бұрын
I remember wanting a cobalt appliance to mess around with as a kid but could never afford one. Always wanted to host my own website. I did for a while until the cable company sent my parents a cease and desist about running a web server on our cable modem 😂
@excitedbox5705
@excitedbox5705 Жыл бұрын
When I was in High school I started a hosting company and we thought we were hot shit because we got one of those Cisco Blue Pizza Boxes as a dedicated server when they were all the rage.
@harryshuman9637
@harryshuman9637 Жыл бұрын
Was it in the States? Idk, I'm literally torrenting and seeding terrabytes over here in Canada and nobody gives a hoot.
@redhel
@redhel Жыл бұрын
@@harryshuman9637 sounds like this was early 2000s rather than current day, totally different worlds
@petertrevena804
@petertrevena804 Жыл бұрын
Pirate software :)
@harryshuman9637
@harryshuman9637 Жыл бұрын
@@redhel Idk, ISPs can still prevent running servers from private IPs.
@grahammales
@grahammales Жыл бұрын
After Sun dropped the Cobalt RAQ platform, Project Blue Quartz was developed, which was an open-source version of the Cobalt RAQ software. It could be run on any modern server, or as a VM and was eventually ported to CentOS 5. Later on, the Blue Quartz software was ported to Project BlueOnyx, which is still active and downloadable today.
@idahofur
@idahofur Жыл бұрын
Yea blue Quartz.
@donteague
@donteague Жыл бұрын
Yes, BlueOnyx is still around. I used their software for a long time before I took the leap to cloud based services. I'm still on their mailing lists though, and it's still under active development. Strongly encourage people to check it out. (And they could use donations right now as well.)
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj Жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the 90's - early 2000's translucent casing looks. I wish there was more of that nowadays too.
@werdfeefs7027
@werdfeefs7027 Жыл бұрын
Seconded - translucent plastic casings look amazing. ...Imagine being one of the overpaid financial "gurus" who insisted that the internet would never matter to business and just was a passing fad, though.
@Burgo361
@Burgo361 9 ай бұрын
​@@werdfeefs7027Knowing those kinds of people they are probably still trying to defend that position
@k7geek
@k7geek Жыл бұрын
I so remember these, the ISP/MSP I worked for developed an inhouse board that allowed two drives to get crammed in the case and use software to mirror them. There was a VERY specific method to properly fold the IDE cables to get the thing closed up. Ran a modified version of the RaQ OS, also tweaked in house if my memory is still good. Will try and dig up a pic of them in production
@Flexits72
@Flexits72 Жыл бұрын
Guys, you'd better avoid ultrasonic cleaning of boards with crystal oscillators, because they may be irreparably damaged by the vibration. De-solder crystals from PCB or at least don't immerse them in the cleaning liquid. And the second advice I'd like to mention, in my opinion the best way of de-soldering components, such as the capacitors, is as following: apply a bit of tacky solder flux, then heat the junction adding some fresh conventional soldering alloy (not a lead-free one), then hold your soldering iron with one hand to keep the solder melted, while very gently pulling and wiggling the component by the other hand. In your case, as a capacitor has only two legs, it's in fact possible to keep both hot and melted simultaneously, by constantly moving solder iron tip from one to another, back and forth (remember, your other hand is cautiously swaying the component at the same time). It sounds more complicated than it works, although you'll need a little bit of practice, preferably on some dead board. The key to success is tacky flux and free solder alloy. Next, in my opinion, round solder tips are not very handy. Give a try to chisel (D-shape), knife (K-shape) or bevel (C-shape). BTW, with a wide solder tip, like Hakko T12-WD52 or T12-K for example, you can heat a number of legs at the same time without moving the solder iron. Thanks for the video, you're doing great!
@edmotler2115
@edmotler2115 Жыл бұрын
These were absolutely amazing back in the day. Ran my first hosting business off one of them. The web UI was the killer app as well. It made management of the server a doddle and lowered the barrier for getting into hosting. Which was a double edged sword, if you didn't have the Linux chops for when things went wrong. I learnt so much running one of these.
@biggiejohn3360
@biggiejohn3360 Жыл бұрын
When I worked for an ISP in the late 90's, we deployed hundreds of the Qube, I still have a Raq3
@velzekt4598
@velzekt4598 Жыл бұрын
I love the status messages the programmers in to describe various tasks. "BOOTLOADER: Leap of faith!"
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Жыл бұрын
It could be something as simple-seeming as jumping to the next instruction, but with a different processor mode (e.g. virtual memory mapping) enabled. That requires all kinds of things to be set up properly--not just the page tables, but also proper flushing of processor caches to avoid picking up now-incorrect addresses. So when you get there, you can quite rightly say “Phew!”.
@bitcoredotorg
@bitcoredotorg Жыл бұрын
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Thanks for explaining that, I was curious specifically what it was. Knew it was a "big jmp" of some kind, but that definitely explains why it was so notable as to have it's own log entry!
@rbus
@rbus Жыл бұрын
Hah, I remember these. In fact, really really really wanted to get one back in the day to toy around with Apache and web projects. Now a cheap tiny SBC from Raspberry Pi or Odroid doesn't just outpower these but also the best Sun and SGI servers of the day, by a pretty long shot.
@gromett
@gromett Жыл бұрын
I built my hosting company using the RAQ2, RAQ3, RAQ4, RAQ XTR and finally the RAQ 550. Moved over to high end Dell servers with Plesk not too long after Sun took over. Was heartbreaking to dismantle 2 whole 40U racks full of cobalt servers when they went EOL.
@aGj2fiebP3ekso7wQpnd1Lhd
@aGj2fiebP3ekso7wQpnd1Lhd Жыл бұрын
Me too. 550s were the only decent ones out of the bunch but the software was still awful
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 10 ай бұрын
It was a different time. Back then, this stuff had personality, and was lovable, rather than just being a cog in the machine wot runs the business and generates paychecks.
@AbacusManify
@AbacusManify Жыл бұрын
There's something oddly fascinating about this video. As someone who grew up on the early web, but never paid much thought to the technology behind it at the time, this opened up a whole new avenue of nostalgia for me. There's something too about the translucent plastic faceplate - that kind of design was really isolated to just a few years in the late 90s/early 2000s, and it really ties the whole thing together as a piece of its time. Thank you so much for making this video!
@billkendrick1
@billkendrick1 Жыл бұрын
I made a bunch of web-based games, written as 100% HTML (no Java, Flash, JavaScript, etc. -- became very popular with the WebTV crowd). They were CGI scripts -- written in C -- so all the forking wreaked havoc on my ISP's webserver. So they moved me to a Cobolt RaQ, which I lived on for a few years. Them's were the days! PS - The site is still up. It still gets a tiny bit of traffic & don't have the heart to kill it yet. Going on 25 years (plus a few more when they were hosted on my university's Computer Science dept's Sun server). 👴
@ryancxx
@ryancxx Жыл бұрын
What's the site?
@JaredConnell
@JaredConnell Жыл бұрын
​@@ryancxx i just googled bill kendrick games and found it
@ChristopherWoods
@ChristopherWoods Жыл бұрын
Seconded, this sounds like a nice corner of internet history, share the link so we can enjoy it again 😊
@vasiovasio
@vasiovasio Жыл бұрын
​@@ryancxx if he not answer you, we can assume he just lie...
@NoNameAtAll2
@NoNameAtAll2 Жыл бұрын
@@vasiovasio or youtube censors any links
@jorgeramossantana2739
@jorgeramossantana2739 Жыл бұрын
Really happy to have discovered this channel. Can't wait for more videos!
@theserialport
@theserialport Жыл бұрын
Us too!
@RobertMizen
@RobertMizen Жыл бұрын
Same man
@LogicalNiko
@LogicalNiko 9 ай бұрын
One of my college roommates interned for Cobalt Networks. One of the projects they assigned him writing the code for front controls and display for the Raq 3. I remember him having prototype servers in his room and we hacked the PCI card to support a sound card (the PCI bus on the server only supported 3.3 volts, and most decent sound cards needed the 5v pin as well. So we had to pull the power with bodge wires from other stable sources on the motherboard. In the end we ended up turning one of the early Cobalt Networks prototype servers into a MP3 jukebox for the house 🤣. I did loooove that blue case too.
@KG4JYS
@KG4JYS Жыл бұрын
We used these as marimba transmitters. At that time, fully managed thick desktops and electronic software distribution was brand new I remember the cobalt team being very easy to work with. Ours were x86 based. We had several hundred.
@ConstantGeekery
@ConstantGeekery Жыл бұрын
Brings back memories! These Cobalt servers were a big part of my early career in web development, and helped me move onto more advanced server administration. They really were fantastic! Thanks for the vid 👍🏻
@dantechgeek
@dantechgeek Жыл бұрын
I remember paying for those Cobalt RaQ 3 servers from a web hosting company back in 1998. They was pretty good and easy to use web server. I always wanted to buy one for nostalgic purposes lol. Thank you for sharing this video. Have a great day.
@marcusdamberger
@marcusdamberger Жыл бұрын
Well, once this series is done, you will know what your getting into, seeing those bulging caps on the mother board on both servers, says they probably are all like these.
@dantechgeek
@dantechgeek Жыл бұрын
@@marcusdamberger Yeah well almost 30 year old boxes. I expected them caps to be EOL. I look at a few on ebay but they are asking for too much LOL. I'm not paying top dollar for them.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 10 ай бұрын
Me too. I actually got to adopt a few of these back when the ISP I worked at replaced them with newer, more capable hardware. I enjoyed tinkering with them, but passed them on after their older architecture became a liability, and the bespoke form factor of the motherboard negated any reasonable upgrade path. Now I want one again. Why? Absolutely no good reason. They're just adorable, and remind me of a time when technology was more exciting.
@MartinSuper7
@MartinSuper7 Жыл бұрын
I used to be a product manager for a UK business service provider (Easynet) and the hosted Raq service was one of the first products I launched. I'm pretty sure Compaq DL180s were available then so it wasn't the first 1U server, but one of the joys of the Raq was it wasn't deep so you could 'back to back' them in a rack and have 80 in one 42U 600x800mm cab. They also didn't kick out a lot of heat or use much power so the generally dreadful DC power and cooling design of the mid to late 90s could cope with it (so long as you didn't have an entire row of them). Happy days!
@TwoThreeFour
@TwoThreeFour Жыл бұрын
I remember the company I worked for circa 2000-2003 had one Cobalt Qube and few RaQ3's. The Qube was used by web developers and designers, while RaQ3 were used for office related applications also were used by our clients. Still remember the feeling of booting up these plug-n-play web servers for the first time.
@c128stuff
@c128stuff Жыл бұрын
The one simple problem was, and still is that making the server easy to use does not in any way remove the requirements for good technical skills. You need those to build a well functioning and secure environment, back then, and today.
@theserialport
@theserialport Жыл бұрын
Yes, good point! We think the RaQs were very popular because the "level 1" tech issues could easily be done with the front panel LCD and control buttons, and a RaQ could be re-installed by just connecting to it with a laptop booted from the restore CD. However, yes, a company running these should have also had people responsible for security practices.
@marcburns508
@marcburns508 Жыл бұрын
It doesnt... but it sure makes it alot quicker. I think a lot of people runnin web hosts have no business doing so, lol.
@laurensdejong6149
@laurensdejong6149 Жыл бұрын
Ha, die Bart! Tijdens het kijken van deze video moest ik al snel aan jou denken. En daar ben je dan in de comments!
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Жыл бұрын
Was it using Sendmail as its MTA? I did wrestle with that for a few years (even bought the book). Then we discovered Postfix, tried switching to that ... and never looked back.
@c128stuff
@c128stuff Жыл бұрын
@@laurensdejong6149 Haha, tja.. ik ben best redelijk actief op youtube.
@DJCrazyJimmy
@DJCrazyJimmy Жыл бұрын
Back in 2005 or so i bought one of the original cube cobolt server and kept that thing for several years.
@morecklgust
@morecklgust 4 ай бұрын
Cobalt had a Great Staff of Engineers they did all the Board Design in house. The beta boards (PCB) were Fabbed locally (San Jose) I sent out all the Gerber files got the Components the BOM for assembly and sent them all out to a place in Santa Cruz. Worked with some Great People! Thanks Takes me back!! Can't believe is missed this video (I blame thockin, Man I was on the Sysengr team!!!).. (subscribed, so I wont miss another)
@gettnbetter7274
@gettnbetter7274 Жыл бұрын
What a shame, Sun destroyed Cobalt after they acquired them and I think it was intentional. I ran a farm of these back in the day and even had a Cube or two at home. Fun days those were
@roussell
@roussell 10 ай бұрын
Man this brought back some good memories - I installed dozens of these and the Cube variants in school systems back then. Such a fun time back then
@Wayne_Mather
@Wayne_Mather Жыл бұрын
I completely forgot about this company. Thanks for unlocking some hidden memories of the Y2K era
@AdamPreset
@AdamPreset Жыл бұрын
I ran five of these for a few years to support services on a small college network. I recall having our intern wipe them and put on NetBSD when the shipped OS was no longer supported. Cool little boxes!
@International_Criminal_Court
@International_Criminal_Court 10 ай бұрын
Amazing channel with super cool, old but golden techy information videos, just subscribed! Thank you!
@MisterFastbucks
@MisterFastbucks Жыл бұрын
Bought several Qube's back in the 90's for small satellite offices. They were reasonably cheap and reliable. Loved them.
@Ebacherville
@Ebacherville Жыл бұрын
yep they were rock solid, I can only remember ours had down time when UPS batteries needed to be swapped due to age or failure and or if there was a reboot for a update. Rock solid.. for nostalgia factor I picked up a used Qube and Raq just because they were such a revolutionary device. they still function perfectly.. The killer "app" for my company, that was hosting web and email inside the company. Back then we were paying the ISP for each email address and domain hosting and were on dial up still, a modem in each computer that had internet access and dial up.. they went from dial up internet to a wireless connection over 2 miles at 256k, it basically paid for its self in a year and allowed email accounts and internet for everyone, instead of just for upper management.. Back in those years being a tech person was so much fun, you could walking into any part of a company and make changes that were drastic improvements in cost and efficiency.
@benotsilent6703
@benotsilent6703 9 ай бұрын
6:39 - "Initializing IDE" this takes me back bro. Thank you.
@MBND156
@MBND156 Жыл бұрын
Wow such an amazing video! Really like the idea of this channel. Keep it up.
@JeremySiedzik
@JeremySiedzik Жыл бұрын
Wow, blast from the past. Thank you! Installed about 20 of these in the late 90's. This is a great channel. Much appreciation. Great to see all of the other comments as well.
@mattl_
@mattl_ Жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m looking forward to more content from you!
@SharkBait_ZA
@SharkBait_ZA Жыл бұрын
Ah man, I have a big fascination with old web servers. Waiting for the next videos! Subscribed.
@SiikPros
@SiikPros Жыл бұрын
Glad that you speak clearly and don't bs around. I love this type of content and have subscribed.
@cidadaoPPT
@cidadaoPPT Жыл бұрын
This video was just amazing! Subbed! About to go on a binge watch of your channel!
@hackerhomestead
@hackerhomestead Жыл бұрын
I had one of these! what a product! Thank you for your coverage!
@tamphex
@tamphex Жыл бұрын
I remember when the startup ISP I worked for went from a modem rack room (cooled 24/7 by over a dozen fans) to a Livingston Portmaster. It was such an amazing change.
@timballam3675
@timballam3675 Жыл бұрын
I remember installing Cobalt Networks Cache RaQ 2 boxes for companies with "slow" internet connections I should have kept a few when they were decommissioned as they seam to be worth a small fortune now!
@Dygear
@Dygear Жыл бұрын
One, this is a really cool video. Two you shouldn't need to reset the root password. This version of the kernel should be vulnerable to the backspace bug. Just press backspace 28 times at the password prompt. I believe that works in this version of the kernel.
@chrisdickens4862
@chrisdickens4862 Жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty massive bug!
@Dygear
@Dygear Жыл бұрын
@@chrisdickens4862 C man. It’s a crazy language.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 10 ай бұрын
@@Dygear LOL. Really, it was just the slap-shod nature of early C APIs. scanf and friends, namely. C, itself, is certainly unforgiving, but not inherently broken. I still haven't found a language I love as much as C. :-)
@MundoFacundoYT
@MundoFacundoYT Жыл бұрын
beautiful video! instant sub! Had a qube and many raqs, beautiful machines ! Thanks.
@_macrophage
@_macrophage Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Awesome stuff. Subscribed, liked and all that jazz. Looking forwards to more videos, Keep up the great work!!
@ChadwickFerguson
@ChadwickFerguson Жыл бұрын
hehe the serial output got me man nicely done, love the music fade in so immersive.
@dustpicc
@dustpicc Жыл бұрын
That was the first server I ever had in 2002. I had it for 6 months then upgraded to a true 1U dedicated server. The RaQ was pretty cool.
@darrencrane6514
@darrencrane6514 Жыл бұрын
Nice blast from the past. Thank you! I remember installing the Cobalt Cubes back in the day! Primarily for email.
@t.j.ziegler4567
@t.j.ziegler4567 Жыл бұрын
15.8k subs, this channel is gonna go far ❤
@dryvoutcm
@dryvoutcm Жыл бұрын
It is a crime that you don't have more subscribers. I thoroughly enjoyed that episode.
@codewithzyn
@codewithzyn Жыл бұрын
Thank you youtube algorithm. Super interesting video btw, never would have known about any of this stuff. Super interesting to see how the internet we know today started out with servers like that.
@michaelhess4825
@michaelhess4825 Жыл бұрын
Had two, a 3 and 4. Absolutely amazing machines! Ran my own personal sites on them for around a decade.
@typxxilps
@typxxilps Жыл бұрын
love that kind of content, thx
@slasheffecttech
@slasheffecttech Жыл бұрын
another great video, thank you
@UKCougar
@UKCougar Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I'm a grey-haired infrastructure engineer, and even to me it's slightly astonishing that the concept of a 1U server was once considered novel. You're braver than me though, plugging in 20-year old hardware with visible cap failure!
@haywardgg
@haywardgg Жыл бұрын
These were my introduction to Linux. Have been hooked since :)
@markbonnici7134
@markbonnici7134 Жыл бұрын
Still have 2 of these boxes - a RaQ and 3 - really solid products!
@23wjam
@23wjam Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Subscribed.
@Biztactix
@Biztactix Жыл бұрын
Made my day... That was our First Dedicated server we used for WebHosting! the old Cobalt RAQ
@stevegraham5494
@stevegraham5494 Жыл бұрын
I remember these and they were fantastic!
@kc0eks
@kc0eks Жыл бұрын
Love seeing this stuff. Neat story and video
@73BDM
@73BDM Жыл бұрын
This video bring back fond memories of working in a NOC and managing rack and rack of these servers... Then everyone moved to dell, HP, and Compaq servers.
@-r-495
@-r-495 5 ай бұрын
remember seeing this at an expo in Switzerland. I was a very young man with an enthusiastic Dad.
@nickclewer5723
@nickclewer5723 Жыл бұрын
Brings back some memories! Used to admin a few of these in 99-00
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@VidarStorm
@VidarStorm Жыл бұрын
I have two of these in my garage that ran my not-for-profit world wide car club for 10+ years. Have three actually, two of the RAQ 4s and one of the long chassis Intel based RAQ XTR 4 drive one. If I recall, I ran them from about 2005-2016 with progressions of supported OS up through BlueOnyx. The XTR got containerized into a VM on VMware and the RAQ 4s were decommissioned after migration of domains to the XTR. I loved these machines and it became my stepping stone for CentOS knowledge that put me where I am today in Enterprise IT Infrastructure. Will be watching this series.
@wudchk
@wudchk Жыл бұрын
That was a fantastic little box!
@CoreDump451
@CoreDump451 Жыл бұрын
Subbed!! Seems like you have awesome content. I hope to see more
@theserialport
@theserialport Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@eljefe62
@eljefe62 Жыл бұрын
I owned a few of these when I started a small hosting service in '99. They were great.
@systemchris
@systemchris Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing this followon
@peterldelong
@peterldelong Жыл бұрын
Oh boy, I had several Cobalt RaQ servers in my first data center on the 11th floor of an office building in downtown Cleveland with a whopping 3Mbps on a bonded T1. We also installed a few Cobalt Qube’s at client sites. Great memories!
@agentblueuk
@agentblueuk Жыл бұрын
My first ever server was a raq3, was impressive platform for not only providing dedicated servers, but also reseller setups
@leandroalbero
@leandroalbero 9 ай бұрын
another channel that is gold
@shanefeather-lopez5935
@shanefeather-lopez5935 11 ай бұрын
I remember installing a Cobalt Qube as an email server in 1999 (occasional dial-out to ISP on an ISDN2e line to fetch/send) - delightful little thing to configure...
@ThunderChasers
@ThunderChasers 11 ай бұрын
This channel needs more subs.
@cheapasstech
@cheapasstech Жыл бұрын
I have a few lying around, will start playing with them again😊
@KuntalGhosh
@KuntalGhosh Жыл бұрын
Definitely bring one of them back and host a public website from it ! & Other you can swap the motherboard for one of those itx celeron or pentium boards and host a modern website from there.
@markshade8398
@markshade8398 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that isn't so easy. The RaQ (3 at least) uses a ROM that helps to boot up and start the os. So it is also pretty difficult to upgrade the os too. Back about 2005 or so you get updated ROMs and some other goodies and do a fair bit of updating. But even at that level it would have a very old PHP and MySQL (and 1 other db, I can't remember it's name) and apache etc. It'd be suuuuper risky for a hack. Mine was later maintained by an outsourced expert and it was much better then. But they were a truly great box!
@Gartral
@Gartral Жыл бұрын
Putting one behind HAProxy (lock down the various config page endpoints) and Stunnel (For modern SSL) would allow it to be safely used to host a live website. Not that it could host MUCH, but a static page or even a very crushed video would be doable! I don't believe these even have gigabit ethernet so your major consideration will be bandwidth. These are really cool and were very popular in schools where I'm from as general internal webhosts. I remember my school had one that was hacked to allow a fileserver, hidden and wiped nightly, that we'd all use to share music and games in the computer lab! So DO make sure your HAProxy config *only* allows your specified server locations to be accessed by the internet.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't bother upgrading it, TBH. It's plenty sufficient to chuck some HTML over the fence. It doesn't take much. It won't serve millions of hits per day, running complex back-ends, all over HTTPS... but it doesn't need to do any of that.
@NeneRomanovaBGC
@NeneRomanovaBGC Жыл бұрын
I have two Cobalt machines in my house, a Qube3 and a Raq2. Used to use the Qube for doing web dev locally before deploying to remote servers back in 2000.
@NomadicWolf
@NomadicWolf Жыл бұрын
Great video. I remember my k6-2 333. The first PC I built myself, the First computer I had with an AGP video card, which my gf bought me at the time. A rage 2 pro if I remember right. Couldn't play rainbow 6 without it. All the way back when I started building websites. Thanks for the memories...
@Primant
@Primant Жыл бұрын
I remember these. I was working at IBM support in the late 90's/early 00's and was the lead for the support contract for these
@Draknem
@Draknem Жыл бұрын
Holy, I have a Cobalt RaQ2, thought everyone forgot about them. Got mine with dead HDD so I am looking for restore images. Got it running on netbsd in the meantime.
@MegaMijit
@MegaMijit 11 ай бұрын
love the transparent blue!!
@BrianMelancon
@BrianMelancon Жыл бұрын
We used a couple of those at the company I worked for at the time (around 2000-2001). We had two set up in a HA web server, which at the time was a pretty neat trick for a plug and play appliance.
@michaelcarey
@michaelcarey Жыл бұрын
I remember wanting to buy a Cobat RaQ in the mid aughts. I was setting up a community WiFi network and wanted something for users to look at when they connected. I ended up using a Windows 2000 machine and it ended up hosting much more than just a web server.
@dineauxjones
@dineauxjones Жыл бұрын
I hadn't seen these in ages. Damn this brings back some memories.
@tuanbe
@tuanbe Жыл бұрын
I was 18 and spent all my savings for buying a raq. Soon I was printing money. I eventually had a whole rack of them while having zero linux experience.
@graealex
@graealex Жыл бұрын
I remember drooling over this back in the days. Never came across one, though.
@hrclful
@hrclful Жыл бұрын
Memories! I started my first "hosting business" with one of these.
@n1vg
@n1vg Жыл бұрын
Well that's a blast from the past. I haven't thought about Cobalt in 20 years or more. The hardware is so familiar I think we must have had some - the rackmount version specifically. I can feel those neurons firing but can't quite dredge up the details - that was half a lifetime ago.
@fasih_rehman
@fasih_rehman Жыл бұрын
Sun dropped the ball totally after acquiring Cobalt. I loved the Cobalt Qube at work, however we never really rolled them out to production, we carried on using big Sun hardware.
@gorillaau
@gorillaau Жыл бұрын
They didn't drop the ball, they wanted to eliminate the competition with their existing lines. They may have struggled to figure out how to support them, and indeed how to migrate content from these to a proper Sun server.
@THB192
@THB192 Жыл бұрын
I'm distinctly recalling an ex Sun employee (although they weren't working there at the time) describing Cobalt as having been killed by the antibodies. Yeah that sounds right.
@tomwimmenhove4652
@tomwimmenhove4652 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful to see a DIP package on the motherboard!
@robertbruce7686
@robertbruce7686 Жыл бұрын
I have a Cobalt RAQ 550. Fascinating machine...
@morecklgust
@morecklgust 4 ай бұрын
Man that was a Gem... Some great Industrial design thanks to Mr Scott.
@glitchwrks
@glitchwrks Жыл бұрын
I ran MIPS RaQs with Debian for a long time as router/firewall boxes for several customers. They were only replaced when those customers' Internet connection outpaced the packet forwarding capabilities of the RaQs. The last two in service got switched over to NetBSD/cobalt before being removed from service, which was much faster than Debian at that point. I'm still running a Qube2 on my desk as a persistent IRC client (screen + irssi), running NetBSD/cobalt 9.3. One Ethernet port sits on the public Internet (we have a static /28), the other talks to the Ethernet segment for old computers. The only failure was the mechanical hard disk several years ago, which was replaced with a mSATA SSD and an IDE adapter. PSUs were supposed to be a weak point but I don't think I ever got a Qube that actually *had* the external power supply...always ended up adapting something else!
@dslynx
@dslynx Жыл бұрын
I loved the couple of RaQ 3s I had.
@deseehc
@deseehc Жыл бұрын
Holy cow. I totally forgot about these. My old hardware pile might have a raq2 from my highschool days. They were becoming super adorable on eBay which means I scraped some money together and bought a used one.
@TexasGit
@TexasGit Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. I had forgotten about this... thing.
@m843ii
@m843ii 11 ай бұрын
I worked there, was the product manager for the Qube II.
@waltersteenvoorden252
@waltersteenvoorden252 Жыл бұрын
This was the first server i worked on back in the 90s. They where really stable running Apache, Linux, PHP and SQL on low to medium used websites.
@junktionfet
@junktionfet Жыл бұрын
I had absolutely no idea this even existed!
@stefanbuscaylet
@stefanbuscaylet Жыл бұрын
Oh man a blast from the past. I never worked with these systems but was fairly active in the industry. The 29F080 AMD BIOS flash was a good memory. The PATA HDDs, of course, are why your systems are not up as they just were never designed or qualified for data storage longevity for more than 3-5 years. Looking forward 20-30 years into the future, the modern SSDs/HDDs, especially SSDs, are going to have very little of its data still available as they have fine tuned their 5 year reliability in exchange for optimized cost. I have to say I don’t miss those little PATA jumper blocks that were used to configure the HDD as either a PATA master or slave device. I hit pause every 5 seconds during the boot admiring every single line.
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