Doomed for siding with Ieyasu and then doomed again for not siding with him.

It's quite interesting that first the Chosokabe sided with the Tokugawa against the Toyotomi proceeded to lose most of their land. Then side with the Toyotomi against the Tokugawa and then lose all of their remaining land.

Normal historians: The Greek tragedy's are so sad... Me: No Morichika! Don't join the western army!😭

About Motochika himself, it is said that he had a somewhat femenine appearence as a young boy, so people called him "Little Princess". When he grew up, it is said he was one of the most handsome man of the era, a "bishounen". No doubt why fiction tend to portray him sometimes so stylishly!

These guys are one of those clans that, by the end of Sengoku Jidai, got completely shafted by life so hard that you can't help but feel bad for them. First the Toyotomi swooped in and took all their shit after Motochika finally managed to consolidate his turf. Then Motochika lost his son and heir at Kyushu because somebody else fucked up. Then at Sekigahara they had their army there ready to finally win, but couldn't do anything because Terumoto shat the bed and in the end everybody just went home and got their lands taken. It almost looks like a tragic comedy.

This clan's history really is the history of Shikoku and the height of the islands relevance in greater Japanese history sadly :(

This is a clan whom I know by name only. Their clan popped up and then seeming disappeared again and again. So most of the information presented was new to me. So I found it most interesting to have it contextually fleshed out from the rise to the fall of the clan.

I remember what Motochika Chōsokabe said I think as a quote from Samurai Warriors 2: Xtreme Legends, specifically chapter 1, Annexation of Shikoku. “If destiny dictates that I follow the others who have been swallowed up, then I will go… But they will remember my name…”

According to another video on KZfaq by "the history man", during the bakumatsu, many of the goshi (low-ranking samurai) of tosa who opposed the shogunate, disobeying their domain's official kobu-gattai policy, were said to be from the families which used to serve the chosokabe. These samurais were called goshi because of their families' service to chosokabe and were subjected to harsh treatment by the ruling yamanouchi clan. So maybe despite chosokabe's downfall, after 2 centuries, they were avenged, although avenging them may not be the primary motive of those samurai who worked to overthrow the bakufu and later many of the high-ranking samurai joined them as well.

I was an English ALT on the JET Program in Kochi-Ken from 2006-2010. I have a great fondness for that region of Japan, its people and history-as well as Shikoku in general. Thank you very much for making this video about the Chosokabe. It’s wonderful to see their history laid out in such detail.

The Nagao/Uesugi would be good next clan to document

My favorite clan in Nobunaga's Ambition. Go Kunichika, Motochika and Nobuchika

If you wondered what happened and what does Motochika's 2nd and 3rd son doing during these turbulent times is as followed: The secondborn,named Chikakazu was later adopted into the Kagawa clan of Sanuki,a Jitto of western Sanuki province as part of peace settlement when the Chosokabe invaded Sanuki province,he thus reside in Amagiri castle in Western Sanuki province. When the Hashiba invaded Shikoku island and won,the Kagawa and by extension Chikakazu was stripped from their power and Chikakazu sent to Yamato-Koriyama castle as hostage to Hideyoshi's half brother Hidenaga in 1585. A year later he returned to Oko castle and died soon after,his cause of death are unclear. Either by illness,suicide by self-enforced fasting in consideration for smoother transition of power for his younger brother Morichika,or he was poisoned by Morichika himself (i kinda leaned towards this considering the fate that befall the 3rd born son,which we'll get to it) Moving on to the 3rdborn son,Chikatada. He shared the same fate as Chikakazu before: being adopted into another clan to solidify Chosokabe power. Chikatada was adopted into the Tsuno clan,a wealthy gozoku clan from Tosa. Think of them like the Ikoma to the Oda clan,wealthy mercantile clan that bankrolled their expansion. Similarly,in 1585 as part of peace deal he too was taken as hostage by Hideyoshi and placed him under the watch of Takatora Todo in Wakayama,Kii province. When the succession crises happened, Chikatada chance got dashed when a retainer of Chosokabe,Chikanao Hisatake slander him due to Chikatada close relationship with Takatora Todo,whom Chikatada had spent time as hostage to the Todo and Motochika agreed with Hisatake's assessment. when Motochika died in 1599,Morichika imprisoned Chikatada. A year later after Morichika defeat at Sekigahara,Chikatada wrote and sent apology letter to Ii Naomasa,Tokugawa's retainer, for his younger brother's misjudgement of siding with Ishida Mitsunari during Sekigahara. hoping his younger brother and his whole clan as a whole would get leniency from Ieyasu. It didn't work. after this got found out he was ordered to be executed by Morichika because Chikanao Hisatake (yes that guy again,he got serious beef with Chikatada,but i can't find any info about why he does, unfortunately) thought this letter was a treacherous conspiracy of Chikatada and the Todo clan conspiring with one another to get one half of Tosa province for themselves and managed to convince Morichika to gave the order. Eventually,Chosokabe stripped from their Tosa province powerbase by the victorious Tokugawa regime (the province then given to the Yamauchi clan) forcing Morichika and the remnants of his loyal retainers into hiding or becoming ronin,then they resurfaced again during the sieges of Osaka,opposing the Tokugawa. it is said it really apalled Ieyasu so bad that Morichika has it in him to kill his own brother that Ieyasu decided to eventually didn't spare Morichika in the end when he got captured during the Siege of Osaka.

Thank you so very much for the shout out!

this is a really impressive clan

My favorite clan from shogun2

I like that you are making these videos on the lesser clans. Thank you!

Hey, Shogunate, I just wanted to say that I love your history videos and they have inspired me to make my own. You have been a big influence on me with your wonderful history videos making me more passionate and aware about samurai culture and hopefully one day I could be like you. thank you so much for your wonderful content and I hope you never stop my friend.

one thing not everybody know is the current last person who confirm a descent of chosokabe is chosokabe tomochika, who is chosokabe nobuchika's young brother's bloodline, he wrote a book called 絶家を思う(the thinking about a super precious clan will not exist soon), the name chosokabe is the most rare name in all Japanese name, only 20 people in all Japan's population have this name, there will be no chosokabe in the future!

Ok. I've been playing Total War: Shogun 2 ever since it launched. I still play it today. And it's the *first* time I've heard choSOkabe Really. From the very first playthru up to today, I've always called/read them choKOsabe. If I ever needed a proof of my mildly annoying, ADHD induced dyslexia, here's one.

I really enjoy your clan history videos. I’ve never been too familiar with the different Japanese clans (besides the ones I knew from playing shogun2) but your videos make it so much more interesting and I just end up binge watching them all lol.

I always like learning about different clans. Keep up the great work and information

History of a clan videos are some of the best! It's as fun as story time as a kid, and as informative as a 2 hour OCD data dive.

I love your channel I love everything you do keep up the good work

Can you Do History of the Tachibana clan next!!!

YES!!! I've waited for this. Domo arigato godzaimas! 🧔🏻🙏🏻

I had a friend from Kochi when I was a college student and I’ve been there to visit her. What I found interesting was that her father didn’t like Sakamoto Ryoma so much cuz his ancestor was a vassal of Yamauchi clan. (Admires of Sakamoto Ryoma tend to favor Chosokabe over Yamauchi.)

I always enjoy your videos

Great video!

Trying to find this last night. What a coincidence

"Ayo isn't that professor?" " why he wearing samurai armor?" "AYO HE'S THROWING HANDS AT EM SHOGUNATE BOIS!" " OH GOOD LAWD , HE THREW A THAT GOOFY AHH ARMORED SAMURAI OFF THE CASTLE, SHITS WILD AT HERE AT OSAKA"

While viewing the artist"s depictions of Samurai during the Sengoku period with photographs of Samurai from the Edo period, I am struck by the appearance of poverty in the Edo period. True, no "random sampling" was conducted, but I would expect that to the Edo Samurai would have donned their finest clothes for the photographs.

You should do one about the Miyoshi clan or the Yamana clan.

This is the first time I've learned about this Chosokabe Clan.

I played total war:shogun 2 and I did the exact step by step invading Shikoku.

Yoshi...toshi... Some guys just get lucky. Imagine being born with a name that's THAT fun to say.

Yea but what about Motochika's pirate crew? xD gotta love Sengoku Basara's depiction of some figures.

I'm surprised the they(your Patreon supporters) haven't voted for the Nagao/Uesugi clans.

Morichika rolled a 1 on diplomacy

Do the Chokobo clan :D

The descendants of motochika's younger brother revived the name "Chosokabe" in the Meiji era.

Playing total war: shogun 2, it's so cool seeing how much the game reflects on real history

Thx for the video Would love to see: 1. The Japanese guanyu tomonobu tsugaru 2. In defense of harukata sue 3. The otomo clan (kind of intrigued as they dominate kyushu but failed to conquer it all and famously lost to ryujoji - nabeshima and the shimazu)

How many remaining old clans or dynasties of old lineages remain in Japan. I bet there are still people who still are around coming from these lineages.

I was wondering if you have done a video or if know someone who did a video on the hairstyle of the chonmage and did they have any other styles or did they all cut their hair to the chonmage style?

The person depicted as Motochika looks so much like Tokugawa Ieyasu in the NHK Taiga Drama

Fun fact, the Tono to Issho manga and anime depict Motochika as a female, whatsmore, she's an idol! XD

Shogun 2 players 👹

A Japanese TV show about Mitsuhide`s attack on Nobunaga at Hannoji had 6 historians debate his motives. None thought Nobunaga`s abuse of Mitsuhide was a reason (ie, Nobunaga treated everybody pretty roughly and it was in the lord`s assumed rights to do so). But one of the reasons that got widespread support was the Oda, on the eve of Hannoji, were to have a 20,000 man army land on Shikoku and side with one faction (Sogo or Chosokabe). Mitsuhide was in charge of negotiations with the Chosokabe and Hideyoshi with the Sogo. In the end Nobunaga chose the Sogo (obviously with Hannoji happening the invasion did not take place).... So it makes sense that Motochika would not be a Hideyoshi fan

Chosokabe Motochika the Sengoku Jidai Rockstar!

aiyah shikoku is the smallest of the four islands. what is cool about them?

+archer bonus

I was wondering if you had any insight on the supposed lack of birds on Shikoku and the chosokabe being bats. Is it a Japanese saying or something?

Bruh we in school just skipped most of asias history because teachers said it was boring

Can you do a in defence of Akechi Mitsuhide

what about chosokabe yasutoyo?

What about Chosokabe archery skills, as they're portraited as masters of bow in TW: Shogun 2? True or not? Any origins of portraing them like that?

The "British longbowman" in shogun 2

GOATs

Can you do the yamana clan (山名氏) next?

What about Shiro Sokabe? He was born LONG after the 1600's when the Clan allegedly "died." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%8Dsokabe_clan en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiro_Sokabe Are they any Chosokabe left from his branch of the Clan?

Review nobunaga ambition shinsei

My high school history teacher said, "we are skipping Asia because I don't find it that interesting." I never found it interesting until I started watching your videos. Me hating anime didn't help either.

Why the Ichijo were unpopular though?

Were the Ichiryu Gusoku actual bushi or really just farmers that picked up arms?

Who were the runners up exactly?

Suzuki clan if ya can 😂

Damn you ishida mitsunari that cause you to ruin all clan through out japan

This is cool it’s kind of sad Japan is just a port for the west / neon anime land with ninja’s 🤦🏻‍♂️

how could yoshitoshi claim descent from china when earlier indevidual samurai or other clans didn't ??

So they’re Chinese in origin?

first :3