King of the Middleweights?? Moza R12 Review.

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Күн бұрын

Moza Racing has done it again with yet another wheel base. THe new base, The R12, produces 12 newton meters of power and is now right in teh middle of the power range of the Moza lineup. Is 12 newton meters the optimal amount of power for sim racing? Is this the only base we really need?
Shaun Cole of The Simpit tells you everything that you need to know about the R12 wheelbase in this review.
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@cgrf45 Жыл бұрын

I've been out sim racing for many many many years. Just getting back into it now. Where's Daren? Where's Jessica?

@mediocregaming844 Жыл бұрын

Jessica left almost 10years ago. And he had a fallen out with Darren

@tigerbalm666 10 ай бұрын

He works for sim-motion. When I was shopping for Moza R5, he contacted me.

@marcushillerstrom25 3 ай бұрын

I only see the “PC only” as a negative for Moza themselves, as they would probably sell more if it was console compatible. But for me as a (pc) customer it’s a huge plus, I don’t have to pay for compabilities I don’t need. I don’t get rims with PS or Xbox specific buttons.

@filipivan5125 27 күн бұрын

They do sell R3 bundle for consoles now and its almost as expensive as R9 (wheel base only).

@dbuck01 Жыл бұрын

On the topic of strength-I just got my first dd setup a couple weeks ago (a 15 Nm Simagic Alpha) and my first impression is that 15 Nm is a bit overkill. It's a ton of power. At 100% I can hardly turn it. I'm already turning it down to the 50-60% range and still needing to wear gloves because it's just too much. This 12-15 Nm range should give all the power you could ever want with plenty of headroom.

@bozakn Жыл бұрын

Do you think that a 12nm base with a small lightweight rim could give me some sensation of wrestling with a car? Is it enough to give me a workout?

@revento5544 10 ай бұрын

Depending how strong you are, but I believe an average guy would probably be very tired after about 2 hours of racing.

@r1boy74yamyam8 Ай бұрын

Il faut diminuer le gain, une base courroie genre T300, le gain est de 70% Pour une base DD de 15nm, il faut descendre vers les 36

@michaelmarsalli2924 11 ай бұрын

How is the quality of the force feedback against simagic alpha? Still Better simagic?

@jimijames95 11 ай бұрын

I like the new intro Shawn and very nicely done review of the R12. I may have to get one.

@TheSimpit 11 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

@mrtakeaminute6815 7 ай бұрын

Plenty of r12 vs r9 videos out there. You should really do an r12 vs r16 video

@iLiokardo 11 ай бұрын

I remember sombody saying that high force feedback is useful for 90s F1 cars, because the force centers the wheel. Shawn, could you try driving those on 12nm? And compare to higher force wheelbases.

@MrJoppashoppa Жыл бұрын

i would love some more comparing to the R16. Everybody compares R12 to R9. But compare to R16 is way more intresting because its a different product, not just 4nm extra

@themadnes5413 Жыл бұрын

id wish they would release a r21/16 v2, so you can use the ES wheel on them. I have 2 of them and would like to upgrade to the r21, but dont want to spend another 600€+ just for 2 wheels.

@celiohigashi 9 ай бұрын

Have you noticed that practically no KZfaqr makes comparisons between different brands? I understand that there is commercial interest in this, if you choose one over the other, you will be overlooked by the company you pass over. And they never (without exception) talk about the true weaknesses of each DD, when they talk only about the strength of the DD, the lack of compatibility with consoles, they don't talk, for example, that practically all of them, when they heat up, reduce the strength of the DD to preserve the engine. And they always say that the base they are testing never cuts power.

@P.I.D.27 5 ай бұрын

If you take items for free you say same things in review :D

@Scientist19exe 2 ай бұрын

There are literally "vs" youtube videos. What are you talking about? The R12 is mostly compared to R9 and Alpha Mini. And they all praise the mini.

@izkielprophetvideos 7 ай бұрын

having console compatibility will jack up the price due to licensing issues, when they release both pc/console base and pc only base price between 2 will be night and day and production will be more complicated. imho

@Tugennov Жыл бұрын

You're right, lots of console racers would buy this even with a bit higher price for the console maker's licensing fees. Do you think Moza wheelbases will come to consoles anytime soon or ever?

@advanceddarkness3 9 ай бұрын

They make the R3, which is for consoles....maybe its just Xbox though, not sure.

@kenbarthSimAV8tor Жыл бұрын

As long as my 2 T300s and Alcanterra wheel rim and F1 wheel rim work no need to upgrade yet eh!

@jacooosthuizen3593 Жыл бұрын

I have a T300 and im in the mindset of upgrading to R12 or R16.

@tigerbalm666 10 ай бұрын

My R5 @60% is plenty strong. It's bullshit marketing if you need more. Unless you are competitive and need more detail (not strength), R5 is for 99% gamers. R3 just released for Xbox and it's 3.9 N-M.

@Django45 7 ай бұрын

your statement is pretty bullshit about the marketing. It also comes down to wheels you use, heavier or larger diameter wheels will feel much weaker on a weaker base, people are differently strong. Some want a feel as close to real as possible, like formula cars have no powersteering. stronger wheel has stronger detail to transfer to user, has an extra room to grow into if you find you want more later. I am going for the R12 for versatility and longevity as well as affordability. I am pretty sure you will want more power down the line and have to buy again. I use Thrustmaster T300 now and at about 2.8Nm peak, it feels way too weak to me. Cant feel much detail and info to catch slides and feel confident in the car. That is about the strength you are using.

@ericnordhoff159 10 ай бұрын

Hi everyone. I’m currently using a 10 year old G27 but need to upgrade obviously. I exclusively irace and mostly run dirt so I don’t need the wheel with all the buttons/knobs/dials etc. can I use an aftermarket wheel on the R12? Would I have to buy a quick release since I will only utilize 1 wheel? Thanks

@joaomoretto Жыл бұрын

I have my R12 running!! Hearing some abnormal noise ☹️ does anyone know if it’s normal?? I had the R9 before and never had any noise…

@jeremybrading 10 ай бұрын

What cockpit are you using??

@vpreggie Ай бұрын

What has been your experience with unexpected disconnects? I have had both the R-9 and the R-12 and they both go through infuriating bouts of complete disconnections from the game (both iRacing and Assetto Corsa). I’ll hear that dreaded Window double-tone and then the wheel goes limp.

@louiienation8497 4 ай бұрын

How hot does the R9 get using it at 100% the whole time? I’ve heard many users have overheating issues and loosing ffb.

@bubbles1525_ 6 ай бұрын

Is the r16 v2 worth the extra money over the r12? Anyone have an idea

@kfilarski Жыл бұрын

Anyone think I would have a problem using the R12 or even the R9 on the old GT Omega Pro chassis? Currently using the T300rs and believe this is the wheel setup I want to move to next.

@Steadymobbin711 Жыл бұрын

The Omega is a pretty sturdy beast, I think you'll be okay. Probably pretty close to the threshold though...

@kfilarski Жыл бұрын

@@Steadymobbin711 yea I’ve had the cockpit for 7 years now, it’s served me well but because it was discontinued well before DD wheels became much more easily attainable and popular I’m worried it wouldn’t hold up but I think I’ll give it a go

@Steadymobbin711 Жыл бұрын

@@kfilarski report back if you remember!

@stevebrady6601 10 ай бұрын

Do you think this too powerful for a Next Level F-GT rig?

@user-in4ij8iq4c 9 ай бұрын

King is Cammus 15nm base

@m4tty- Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know if they were to eventually implement console compatibility would it come via software update or would they have to release new wheelbases?

@KraMelius. Жыл бұрын

I would assume it a software issue not a hardware issue thats keeping moza from consoles. Imo tho you will need the r12 or something with ports for pedals, shifter, and handbrake that can all plug into the base directly. As you can only plug in a wheel/accessories through 1 usb port on your console. So it will need to have the pprts on the base for all desired equipment. If i remember correctly the r5 and r9 do not have these standalone ports. Atleast not in the same sense the new r12 seems to have.

@GinaSOL Жыл бұрын

Many people don't know,there are licensing fees for console compatibility witch is holding companies like moza,simagic, ect back from going that route

@piedpiper1172 Жыл бұрын

It’s already compatible with a third party adapter.

@louiienation8497 5 ай бұрын

Does the R12 & R9 mount the same way?

@Antoshechkaa 5 ай бұрын

Yes

@LukaPixel18 Жыл бұрын

Moza r12 or simagic Alpha mini?.😢😢😢😢😢

@user-uj3tb2sc7v 11 ай бұрын

That's my situation too. Did you make a decision?

@louiienation8497 4 ай бұрын

@@user-uj3tb2sc7vthe r12 is better in my opinion. Although the alpha mini does give 12 or 13 nm at times, you must be pushing it to its limit everytime to be having that torque peak consistently. I went with the R12 and keep it at 9nm all the time. Should extend its lifespan.

@djhbkrosegold5112 9 ай бұрын

I play mines on my Xbox One S

@Jpilgrim30 11 ай бұрын

It shouldn’t take much to at least get Xbox compatibility since they will allow compatibility with just a steering wheel with the chip and not have to make a new base.

@jacooosthuizen3593 Жыл бұрын

Moza R12 or R16? hmmmmmm

@Bobbarker23455 Жыл бұрын

I'm going Fanatec it just seems like a better product and Eco system

@moncimoov Жыл бұрын

why? it got less nm

@EnMenLuAna Жыл бұрын

the fact that this is PC only is a big PRO not con , consoles sux , a lot of games was ruined coz of childish consoles , so thank you MOZA for deliberately ignoring the childish consoles. Imagine a mamas boy who barely holds his controler in his poor hands sits behind R12 it would breake his poor hands .. People this is a man's world not a sissy

@Django45 7 ай бұрын

who hurt you?