Ultimate Value! - MOZA R12 Base & KS Formula-Style Wheel Review

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Moza Racing is a sim racing company on the move. Not content with producing sim racing steering wheels and wheelbases on a par with the likes of Fanatec, Logitech and Thrustmaster, the Chinese company has continually refined its recipe for producing quality products at affordable prices.
Its latest assault on the mid-range direct drive market sees the arrival of the R12 Direct Drive Wheelbase and the KS Steering Wheel.
The R12 sits slap-bang in the middle of Moza’s R5, R9, R16 and R21 wheelbase line-up and it’s perhaps the most well-rounded of the lot. The KS, on the other hand, is a much-needed formula-style steering wheel with quality looks and a budget price.
The question is, do the R12 and KS hit the mid-range sweet sport in terms of cost and performance? Check out our thorough review to find out.
Mentioned reviews:
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- Moza R9 & GS wheel Review - • Our New Favourite PC W...
- Moza R21, FSR wheel, CRP pedals, HGP shifter - • Take This VERY Serious...
- Thrustmaster T818 review - • Take This VERY Serious...
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00:00 - Intro
00:13 - R12 background
01:03 - R12 vs R9 vs R5
01:57 - R12 key features & details
03:26 - R12 force feedback review
06:14 - KS wheel intro
06:56 - KS wheel review
10:59 - Summary
12:42 - Closing remarks
12:55 - Outro
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@robertcarr4172 Жыл бұрын

I would take the Moza over the T818 purely because of the quick release and more importantly their software is leagues ahead of Thrustmasters

@X1erra Жыл бұрын

Ohohoho. Now THIS is the wheel we've been waiting for. Budget value formula wheel that looks premium enough to be up there with the best. I've been hung up with ordering one, but looks like my patience is paying off now that I can just pre-order this wheel instead of CS. ^^

@sorrowinchrist3387 Жыл бұрын

But can it be modded so if you want a round wheel can it go ontop of it??? PLS TELL ME SO CAN ORDER!

@themadnes5413 Жыл бұрын

@@sorrowinchrist3387 on top of the KS wheel? No, i dont think so. If you want a cheap round wheel, go for the cs or the es with the 12inch wheel mod.

@migueldebrito7943 Жыл бұрын

The wheel I have been waiting for, great price/value option to pair with my r9. Can't wait to use it on ACC. Just ordered from Abruzzi in the UK. ;)

@giggsow9760 Жыл бұрын

The price of £870 for both is actually including tax in the UK - you can get it from UK sellers at that price right now

@jacooosthuizen3593 Жыл бұрын

Moza hitting it out the park! First DD so R12 or R16 and any notchyness between the two? i am leaning towards R16.

@Xpl0jd1 Жыл бұрын

Looks awsome, im looking for a DD wheel but i think i will go to T818 since i already have 2 thrustmaster steering wheels that already fit that hub. otherwise if i didnt have the wheels i would most likley go with Moza R12.

@Tapsby7 10 ай бұрын

Best review out there, for sure

@TraxionGG 10 ай бұрын

Thanks very much!

@imlvee8909 Жыл бұрын

Moza has the best QR i think. Moza R9, GS GT owner here.

@jayd3n899 Жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to see the r12 compared to a simagic alpha mini

@drchtct Жыл бұрын

and Asetek La Prima when that eventually finds the hands of reviewers

@robertcarr4172 Жыл бұрын

Crazy how Moza are so quick to release new products (well aside from a console version)

@JaredPaul01 Жыл бұрын

Power wise Simagic alpha mini is said to feel about the same if not slightly stronger. Build wise the alpha mini is made completely from alloy, very similar to simucube and as an owner of a alpha mini I can say that the build quality is high end, so that's another win. I do like that the Moza r12 has ports in the back to plug pedals and other things in.

@KraMelius. 11 ай бұрын

@@JaredPaul01yea the r12 having the ports on the back is a huge plus for me. Currently have a t300 and th8a shifter with the sparco hand brake. Currently nees 3 USB to run wheel/pedals, shifter, and handbrake. Planning on selling the complete setup soon and buying a moza rig.

@limpetarch98k 10 ай бұрын

The KS wheel is the sort of F1/GT4 wheel I would buy, but the fact they discontinued the RS-D means I have to go shop around for something else than Moza.

@brunosword Жыл бұрын

The only things stopping me from purchasing Moza is the lack of console support as I mainly play PC and casually play GT7, and the lack of an interesting selection of wheels.

@TraxionGG Жыл бұрын

It is definitely an issue for some people. For now, PC only, who knows what the future holds...

@lukefisher8417 Жыл бұрын

Very cool…the more options the better….kinda wish Fanatec would pop out a 12-16nm something around there.

@TraxionGG Жыл бұрын

Us too. The more competition for good products the better it is for us users and consumers!

@TJBPlayz 10 ай бұрын

Maybe they will release a clubsport dd in the 12 to 16nm range

@garymoores9248 5 ай бұрын

clubsport DD+ is, I think, aimed directly at the R12..

@AchatGrau 5 ай бұрын

@@garymoores9248 ..but then you have to deal with Fanatec and their joke of a supply chain and customer service.

@KraMelius. Жыл бұрын

I will forsure be waiting for one of the closer 3rd party sellers to pick up this wheel. Sim motion im looking at you!!!! Gonna be picking up the R12, the GS rim (the KS is just too large ro be considered a formula style rim as it will feel less snappy and reactive on tighter and snap back apexes like at silverstone where the cars balance is almost constantly shifting. Or a track like sonoma would be a good example.

@xyanos7832 8 ай бұрын

Theyre both 300mm tho?

@ma14.27 5 ай бұрын

R12 is such a steal! It's definitely time for me to upgrade my TS-XW soon, the T818 is just not doing it for me.

@Puntatacosimuladores Жыл бұрын

So for intermediate dds we have the r12, the t818 and the Logitech G Pro and on my country only one of those ase shipped here…

@GilesStratford79 6 ай бұрын

Can you provide the settings used on the R12?

@boneyjellyfish Жыл бұрын

You briefly mentioned the KS wheel's compatibility with the R9 V1 in your review - is it incompatible? Would R9 V1 owners need to purchase the universal hub in order to be able to use the new wheel?

@scorps0326 Жыл бұрын

It is compatible with R9v1 😊

@TraxionGG Жыл бұрын

Hi, thanks for the comment. To clarify, the R12 is only compatible with the second versions of the CS, RS, & GS wheels (and all their other wheels of course). The KS wheel is compatible with all their wheel bases: R5, R12, R16, R21, and R9 V1&2. Hope this helps!

@boneyjellyfish Жыл бұрын

@@TraxionGG Awesome, thanks so much for the clarification. Can't wait to pick up this wheel to go with my CS!

@deetee2730 11 ай бұрын

Would you recommend the KS or GS wheel if price isn’t a deciding factor?

@TraxionGG 11 ай бұрын

Very good question! They both have pros and cons. Personally the GS feels more premium, solid, looks better in my opinion, and it has a few more buttons and rotaries. The KS fits my hands better and I prefer the ergonomics, and is lighter as mentioned in the review. My favourite it the KS, but it's a close one. If you need more buttons/switches and driver in bare hands, the GS is probably a better option

@ivanalvare2849 Жыл бұрын

Moza r12 vs asetek la prima vs alpha Mini , is the war !

@Gr00t Жыл бұрын

Got an R9 2 weeks ago and want just a little bit more... Wish they said this was coming rather than just dropping it out of the blue. Feel like I've wasted so much money.

@TraxionGG Жыл бұрын

Might be worth contacting them and seeing if you can do some sort of swap!

@alperenince3157 11 ай бұрын

of course R12 comes out right after i buy R9, lovely

@TraxionGG 11 ай бұрын

Might be worth getting in touch with Moza, they may be able to help you if you bought it recently

@theunnameddriver Жыл бұрын

hey yall i recently purchased MOZA SRP pedals and have come across an issue where my pedals would disconnect from the pithouse software while in use and would stick my inputs momentarily and its been causing me allot of headaches trying to solve this issue, can anyone point me in the right direction to fix this

@carlosgerardofernandezluza6810 Жыл бұрын

I play f1 23 and Assetto Corsa (mostly gt3 cars) and I’m thinking about getting this wheel and the R9 base, would this work well for that use?

@TraxionGG Жыл бұрын

Yes, 100%.

@carlosgerardofernandezluza6810 Жыл бұрын

@@TraxionGG thanks for the reply!

@TraxionGG Жыл бұрын

No worries at all, based on our experience that’s an excellent value for money combination. Enjoy!😊

@shashikurosaki8940 Жыл бұрын

Will the R9 table clamp fit the R12 wheel base ?

@advanceddarkness3 8 ай бұрын

Yes.

@m4tty- Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know if they were to eventually implement console compatibility would it come via software update or would they have to release new wheelbases?

@robertcarr4172 Жыл бұрын

Xbox they could just release an Xbox rim that would work perfectly. Sony on the other hand they would need to release a specific base

@themadnes5413 Жыл бұрын

@@robertcarr4172 i could imagine they would release a moza hub with ps5 compatibility. Time will tell, but if you are simracing... then go for pc, ps5 has only gt7 .. wich at best is an average gt game from what i read. All other sims are way better on pc, ffb wise and you dont need a high end pc to run racing games.

@cat-yi9cg Жыл бұрын

First so I guess I just won the r12. Yes. Ty. I appreciate it very much. Or I'll take the r9. I'm not picky. Ty again. And honestly I'll be happy with the r5

@jayd3n899 Жыл бұрын

Going downhill

@TraxionGG Жыл бұрын

Lol, unfortunately no giveaways this time

@gregorychoubana6755 Жыл бұрын

The KS wheel does seem to offer great value for money but compared to other reviews I’ve watched I feel like you failed to explain the differences which makes it a cheaper option (for example its main body is made of plastic with a carbon fiber like finish, the rotaries/switches are not made out of aluminium but plastic, etc.). Again I’m not saying it is a bad wheel but when reviewing a new product I think you should put more efforts into the details.

@Mysterion157 Жыл бұрын

Disappointed by the ks wheel. I really wanted the CS with a different form factor and we didn't get it

@exokiller6758 Жыл бұрын

Why is no one talking about the Asetek La Prima Bundle?

@drchtct Жыл бұрын

cause they havent send it to reviewers yet

@trabuco81 Жыл бұрын

Anyone using moza wheelsnon fanatec bases?

@LaurenceDusoswa Жыл бұрын

Potatoes @ 1:49 … thank me later

@rchatte100 Жыл бұрын

No ps5 compatability, no deal!

@shanewright9489 10 ай бұрын

I wish Moza was console compatible

@Username_Invalid Жыл бұрын

Sorry but this video kinda comes across as an ad for Moza. I know your excited but it feels forced. Great quality btw!! I’m also a big fan of Moza and have r9.

@TraxionGG Жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks for your comment, and we're glad you liked the quality! Although this is a positive review, its not an advert. We test all products and give our honest opinions to help inform anyone interested in buying the products. I'm considering spending my own money on one. Of course not everyone will share my opinion, but that's the beauty of sim products these days, we have plenty of choice! We have more reviews in the pipeline so stay tuned, and as always, not paid for unless stated otherwise - Piers

@Username_Invalid Жыл бұрын

@@TraxionGG Thanks for the response. I do wish I could trade my r9 in for the r12 hahaha 🤣.

@themadnes5413 Жыл бұрын

i honestly dont see any reason to go TM over Moza at all, it is a no brainer. Unless you allready have wheels for TM.

@themadnes5413 Жыл бұрын

Now give us a r21 V2 Moza, pls.

@bfstudios9163 10 ай бұрын

Does it feel too big for f1 games ?

@TraxionGG 10 ай бұрын

It doesn't from our experience!

@fabricekarls Жыл бұрын

why you are switching your shoes buddy?

@TraxionGG Жыл бұрын

To keep you on your toes 😉 I filmed this over a number of days

@bluesbrother5618 7 ай бұрын

I have the ks wheel here and I'm not so enthusiastic. Squeaky buttons, shifters have different pressure points and moza's customer service is a disaster.

@user-vq9gd2di9x 4 ай бұрын

I can't even handle r9

@augustomed666 Жыл бұрын

I own an R9 with an RS wheel. Personally, 9 Nm is more than enough for me as it already gets really fatiguing depending on the car I'm racing. On the wheel, I've been eyeing the GS to complement my RS, and I think I'll stick with it due to the more premium feel (leather grips, cooler forged carbon, nicer buttons). FSR would be a waste for me as I race in VR so the screen is useless.

@EnzoRacer1 Жыл бұрын

It's not good that you've read text for us, not talked to us

@GoUkraine777 8 ай бұрын

another paid promotion...

@TraxionGG 8 ай бұрын

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