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Conversion therapy ban & single-sex spaces - what will Labour do? Helen Joyce on SpectatorTV

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Author and journalist Helen Joyce speaks to John Connolly, The Spectator's news editor about what could be inside Labour's trans policy. During the election campaign, Labour politicians were asked several times what a woman is - with very few able to give a coherent answer. Will their policy on single-sex spaces, conversation therapy ban, sex education in schools be equally incoherent?
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@samuelchandler7612
@samuelchandler7612 Ай бұрын
Helen Joyce is a wonderful woman
@acacia_w
@acacia_w Ай бұрын
Helen Joyce should be advising government.
@seizetheday9546
@seizetheday9546 Ай бұрын
Helen’s accuracy, clarity and humanity always blows me away. How can women not win this battle with her as our champion
@BenHall289
@BenHall289 Ай бұрын
They literally can’t lose. Truth always wins eventually.
@zeno2501
@zeno2501 Ай бұрын
@@seizetheday9546 She's magnificent. She won't lose.
@michelledavis2604
@michelledavis2604 Ай бұрын
Maybe you need more 😅education
@michelledavis2604
@michelledavis2604 Ай бұрын
​@BenHall289 I don't th8nk understand the meaning of truth.
@BenHall289
@BenHall289 Ай бұрын
@@michelledavis2604 I understand that the truth is a man in a dress who has cut his dick off and pumped himself full of estrogen isn’t magically a women. Still a man. Everyone else knows this too. This is why the truth will always win. To pretend biology no longer holds true is absurd.
@JohnCoates-y6e
@JohnCoates-y6e Ай бұрын
Helen Joyce is a hero.
@hezkyden
@hezkyden Ай бұрын
Maybe she's a heroine, but not a hero. If she, and other women's rights activists, want sex distinctions enshrined in law, we could start with language, something which feminists altered to suit their own agenda.
@michelledavis2604
@michelledavis2604 Ай бұрын
Only for the simple minded.
@lilith3953
@lilith3953 Ай бұрын
A shero!
@johntgw
@johntgw Ай бұрын
​@@lilith3953 heroine, surely?
@HonestHans4
@HonestHans4 Ай бұрын
I’m a simple man: I see a new Helen Joyce video, I immediately watch it.
@pulchralutetia
@pulchralutetia Ай бұрын
Yes, you are very simple indeed!
@tdvwx7400
@tdvwx7400 Ай бұрын
@HonestHans4 Why were you suspended from twitter? :o
@clovermark39
@clovermark39 Ай бұрын
Me too. I am a woman!
@katedean6258
@katedean6258 Ай бұрын
Me too. More please Helen
@msshrill3681
@msshrill3681 Ай бұрын
@@HonestHans4 same
@angryisaac2560
@angryisaac2560 Ай бұрын
Helen Joyce = National Treasure
@michelledavis2604
@michelledavis2604 Ай бұрын
Sunken chest?
@Louisemel902
@Louisemel902 Ай бұрын
Brilliant interview. We need someone like Helen in government!
@karenmariesmith666
@karenmariesmith666 Ай бұрын
I totally agree.
@clovermark39
@clovermark39 Ай бұрын
Yess.
@Cotictimmy
@Cotictimmy Ай бұрын
Helen is one of the most impressive public intellectuals we have in the U.K. Since we're no longer allowed to have sensible, rational, people with reality-based world views (like Helen) as our political leaders and mainstream TV presenters, rational people go to podcasts (like this one) for rational discussions these days instead of mainstream TV & radio. We are forced to pay for the BBC as our public broadcaster but feels like being forced to pay for a chocolate fire guard.
@OpenHLZFocus
@OpenHLZFocus Ай бұрын
In the UK and in the West ❕👍👑💄
@Aarenby
@Aarenby Ай бұрын
She wants to kill everyone who has a "special consideration" she's worse than the Austrian painter
@karinefonte516
@karinefonte516 Ай бұрын
I know it takes a toll, but you can #defundtheBBC , and any British citizen with common sense should at this point.
@simama...xox..
@simama...xox.. Ай бұрын
I am so keen for the day when Helen Joyce doesn't need to defend against this garbage 😔
@bulldogklaus47
@bulldogklaus47 Ай бұрын
Agreed. Though I will say, however, that she'll need to find a new cause so I can keep obsessing over her 🤣
@slacktoryrecords4193
@slacktoryrecords4193 Ай бұрын
@@bulldogklaus47she needs to be the supreme leader of something. Lord how I wish she could just rule over everyone. I haven’t ever heard her say anything from a politics perspective that I’ve disagreed with.
@bulldogklaus47
@bulldogklaus47 Ай бұрын
@@slacktoryrecords4193 something along the lines of “Helen Joyce: Grand Poobah of the Galactic Ministry for Sanity and Common Sense”
@Jess-nc4oy
@Jess-nc4oy Ай бұрын
@@bulldogklaus47 All Hail Helen! she is awesome
@GreatSageSunWukong
@GreatSageSunWukong Ай бұрын
we need her more then ever now Labour have gotten in
@kay2kin92
@kay2kin92 Ай бұрын
Women Defined by Biology not Ideology ....
@BlueFish-g5u
@BlueFish-g5u Ай бұрын
Yes, #RepealtheGRA!
@OpenHLZFocus
@OpenHLZFocus Ай бұрын
XX : simple 😉
@michelledavis2604
@michelledavis2604 Ай бұрын
Transwomen are biolog8cal women not an ideology. Helen Joyce is your cult leader.
@michelledavis2604
@michelledavis2604 Ай бұрын
​@OpenHLZFocus completely wrong.
@OpenHLZFocus
@OpenHLZFocus Ай бұрын
@@michelledavis2604 Not me and the world of Culture and Science We are not wrong. 👋You are confused or you want to destroy without🔪 contributing. ? What is your hypothesis? 🤔have you discovered something? 🤣or do you follow propaganda ideas disguised as science? I am a biologist and I am not stupid. None of us who write are stupid. I inform you. 🤭
@notaclue822
@notaclue822 Ай бұрын
I'm so sick of policy makers thinking nothing of women's rights.
@angrytedtalks
@angrytedtalks Ай бұрын
What are women's rights? The equality act says both sexes should have the same rights. It doesn't say that you have a right to change your sex, but it doesn't say you can't either.
@realMaverickBuckley
@realMaverickBuckley Ай бұрын
Yeah cuz for 40 all they seem to do is obsess over working class mens rights........ 🙄
@academicproofreadingservices
@academicproofreadingservices Ай бұрын
Conversely, I don't know why they are so concerned about promoting the rights of fetishists....
@angrytedtalks
@angrytedtalks Ай бұрын
@kwccoin3115 What utter codswallop.
@tungstenanderson5991
@tungstenanderson5991 Ай бұрын
@@angrytedtalks The ability to say no to men in sex segregated spaces. There is no reason why a 6 year old girl, needs to validate the identity of man in a place where her panties are off, or any woman for that matter.
@OYDUS
@OYDUS Ай бұрын
SO much common sense! If only our politicians would stand up and talk intelligently like this, and mean it, and act on it.
@katedean6258
@katedean6258 Ай бұрын
Helen Joyce. What a woman! My mum overheard me listening to this and said ‘who is that sensible woman speaking sense clearly?’ Yes mum!
@roguestarz1034
@roguestarz1034 Ай бұрын
Helen Joyce is so brilliant and articulate.
@simonm7133
@simonm7133 Ай бұрын
In case a Labour politician is reading this, a woman is an adult human female. No ifs, no buts.
@michelledavis2604
@michelledavis2604 Ай бұрын
So are transwomen.
@roising.3221
@roising.3221 Ай бұрын
Did you know that men clean public toilets?
@deborahfreedman333
@deborahfreedman333 Ай бұрын
@@michelledavis2604 No, he's not.
@onemorefan3647
@onemorefan3647 29 күн бұрын
@@michelledavis2604no, to simply to your mind women are born with a 🐱
@michelledavis2604
@michelledavis2604 28 күн бұрын
@@onemorefan3647 I don't think science supports that view
@simonclare-fu7sx
@simonclare-fu7sx Ай бұрын
Helen is correct, she always has been
@michelledavis2604
@michelledavis2604 Ай бұрын
Not really. She's wrong sbout many things.
@simonclare-fu7sx
@simonclare-fu7sx Ай бұрын
@@michelledavis2604 sure, name one ?
@michelledavis2604
@michelledavis2604 Ай бұрын
@@simonclare-fu7sx that humans have existed for 1.2 million years.
@simonclare-fu7sx
@simonclare-fu7sx Ай бұрын
@@michelledavis2604 that's the best you can come up with ? not what she is discussing about humans today which is probably the real reason you disagree with her, you're reaching aren't you
@cmmndrblu
@cmmndrblu Ай бұрын
Helen Joyce is exemplary. I will always always be grateful to her for writing her book.
@michelledavis2604
@michelledavis2604 Ай бұрын
Singing her praises doesn't make her what she says true.
@barbaralucas2375
@barbaralucas2375 Ай бұрын
All talk on all fronts, the problem would be solved if the 2004 Gender Recognition Act was repealed by someone bold enough to repeal this Act brought in by Blair/Labour. It has caused 20 years of ideology with our children being affected most.
@ClarinoI
@ClarinoI Ай бұрын
In nine years of "Conservative" government they never sought to repeal it. I doubt very seriously that this new Labour government will want to do so. In fact, I suspect now that they are in power they will ramp up pre-pubescent transsexual surgeries, and entrench gender ideology in society.
@sisiphas
@sisiphas Ай бұрын
A good piece. Now imagine how much further forward the womens’ rights would be had ALL womens’ groups worked together. Calling Kellie-Jay Keen an ‘extremist’ for example as some did was stupid and devisive
@creatrixZBD
@creatrixZBD Ай бұрын
@@sisiphas imho KJK has been on a personal political career arc, and this is just the grift she chose. She spruiked as much ideology as the next person.
@sharonalbanese8084
@sharonalbanese8084 Ай бұрын
This woman is a total hero.
@finisheseverythi
@finisheseverythi Ай бұрын
Im a counselling psychologist. Every time I hear helen speak I breathe a sigh of relief. The governing bodies of my industry are campaigning to ban conversion therapy, and the chilling effect is very real. If ever I start to feel that chill, I will listen to interviews like this, and find my courage again.
@simmer484
@simmer484 Ай бұрын
In schools it's always spoken about in terms of toilets. But there are other issues. I know a primary school girl who was one of two girls not selected for a four girl athletics team. It would have been their first life experience of a proper athletics competition at the local athletics arena. One of the four 'girls' selected is a boy who pretends to be a girl. How is this fair? There are now 5 boys and only 3 girls going from the school.
@deepoole820
@deepoole820 Ай бұрын
Helen's commentaries are so well reasoned. She is always spot on. Thank you Helen.
@neilmetcalfe5261
@neilmetcalfe5261 Ай бұрын
As always, Helen always speaks common sense. Labour should be asking for her advice and guidance.
@FlashdogFul28
@FlashdogFul28 Ай бұрын
Helen is star, is she ever on the BBC I wonder .
@annon3173
@annon3173 Ай бұрын
Good discussion- an interviewer who knows the subject properly and the issues at play for women, with a knowledgeable interviewee who gets her points across successfully. Have John on more.
@gabychats
@gabychats Ай бұрын
As always Thankyou Helen for all that you do.
@davidloughlin2238
@davidloughlin2238 Ай бұрын
There are no "trans" women or "cis" women, there are just women, this has always been the case and always will be. Men who wish to live their lives as women, and women who wish to live their lives as men are absolutely free to do so, as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others.
@CaseySummers-zy8mj
@CaseySummers-zy8mj Ай бұрын
Interesting to hear Helen’s perspective on this because it’s one of my biggest worries with Labour and I was surprised at how little air it got during the election. Helen has calmed me down a bit. Hope things continue in the right direction. Now it’s just the rest of the issues to worry about 🙈
@jrr239
@jrr239 Ай бұрын
Well said Helen 👏 🙌 ❤
@aodhanofailain
@aodhanofailain Ай бұрын
Labour’s ban on ‘conversion therapy’ would effectively ban the provision of scientific psychotherapy to consenting adult patients on the grounds of a quasi-religious ‘identity’ doctrine. Should we say to people with gender dysphoria, ‘You’re right! You are a soul imprisoned in a wrong body, so disfigure yourself with our blessing; we’ll feel virtuous pretending you’ve changed sex, whilst you face a life of painful medicalisation’? Should we not say, ‘You’re mistaken to think you’re in the wrong body. You’re beautiful, good, and truly you just as you are. You may have a distressing condition called gender dysphoria, but people have recovered from this without self-harming, and with our support and evidence-based medical care you so can you’?
@clovermark39
@clovermark39 Ай бұрын
Same as we should say to people with anorexia nervosa. Yes you are too big so cut down on what you eat.
@BlueFish-g5u
@BlueFish-g5u Ай бұрын
Please use trans identifying man/males/boys and trans identifying women/females/girls! No man is any type of woman etc etc.
@pussycats456
@pussycats456 Ай бұрын
@@BlueFish-g5u Or, just say Men and Boys!
@jenniferlawrence2701
@jenniferlawrence2701 Ай бұрын
I prefer the term "Space Invaders"
Ай бұрын
@@jenniferlawrence2701 Do you think males should have the right to their own spaces and exclude women from them if they so choose?
@lilith3953
@lilith3953 Ай бұрын
I see that you don't know what male pattern violence is and haven't looked at the difference in size and criminal offending among the prison muster.
@katherynet1424
@katherynet1424 Ай бұрын
Well, these people don't identify as trans they identify as either a woman or a man. It's perfectly binary, a person doesn't transition to become a trans, the fake gender ideology movement that exists now hijacked the community with perverts calling themselves women. Any real transsexuals know they are biologically either male or female, and dont like invading spaces they know they aren't welcome in or belong in. This trans cult is something new and seems to enforce an ideology of gender as a social construct, not necessarily what's between your legs.
@chatterbox7000
@chatterbox7000 Ай бұрын
Brilliant as always.
@s-eyesel
@s-eyesel Ай бұрын
We don't want an ideology to be pushed onto us at all costs ( as I have sadly experienced but flatly refused to question my own gender... with the consequence of being excluded and belittled by that group) 😮 😡
@wendyhaynes4991
@wendyhaynes4991 Ай бұрын
It really worries me when a labour politician on the radio can make an absurd statement saying transwomen can 'grow' a cervix.....does he even know what it is??
@elizabethwhite1068
@elizabethwhite1068 Ай бұрын
Great chat, always love hearing from Helen. To everyone here in the comments, please send a note to YT to stop putting the community note, or whatever it's supposed to be, from The Trevor Project on every gender critical video. The Cass Review is the expert on the topic, not a political activist organization who's goal is to fill their pockets with gender medicine money.
@SexRealist301
@SexRealist301 Ай бұрын
Duly reported. The rot is everywhere isn't it?! I can't wait for this to all be over and back to sanity! Preferably with the appropriate heads rolling, such as that twat David Tennant, etc. I think he's bitter because his voice never broke.
@slacktoryrecords4193
@slacktoryrecords4193 Ай бұрын
Yes, hear-hear! on the Trevor Project. It’s unreal the way these insane activist orgs have got their teeth into giant multinational corporations like Google/YT. They’re so very wrong on this issue. How dare they?
@clairemagnolia
@clairemagnolia Ай бұрын
@@elizabethwhite1068 You are so right, I do this every time I come across it. Thought police at work in Google 😳
@mslinklater
@mslinklater Ай бұрын
Helen Joyce is an absolute national treasure. Great interview... thank you.
@memoryhero
@memoryhero Ай бұрын
16:37 - this is why I reckon I'll be listening to Helen Joyce for at least a few decades. resolve, focus, elocution, and principles like these come around so damn seldomly.
@kathrynmcnamara9196
@kathrynmcnamara9196 Ай бұрын
Beautifully clear and articulate Helen, as always. Thank you for speaking up in support of this issue.
@vicstee482
@vicstee482 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately i do not share helens conservative optimism. I think it will get far worse now under labour.
@jenniferlawrence2701
@jenniferlawrence2701 Ай бұрын
Yep. They're got a once-in-a-century majority in parliament, possibly only for one term. They're going to use it.
@CheckFred
@CheckFred Ай бұрын
This Lady needs to be the PM's personal advisor - She really does 'get it' - I remember in the early 60's - I was 13 - 15 and obsessed with Cafe-Racer Motorbikes and SPEED!! ... I used to say to everyone who'd listen that My Main Goal in life was to "Die! Before! I was 24 on a Triumph Bonneville doing a 'Ton' (100mph) " ... It was about the same time as girls would 'brag' at school about having tried to commit Suicide! - But Failed! (Thankfully) ... Some really Weird stuff goes on through puberty - It always HAS - It always WILL - We all grow out of these fantasies eventually - But guess WHAT! ?? .. LABOUR want to LOWER the voting age to 16yrs - WHY!?? - Because they KNOW! That early teens is the BEST TIME to indoctrinate 'most' youngsters into believing Socialism is the ONLY WAY and a Vote for Labour/Momentum is their ONLY real choice....... So the 'pretence' of Democracy can continue, but in reality it will be even MORE DEAD! ☠ Than it is NOW! 🤨 .... And Stonewall is the Conduit for this to succeed 🤔
@bogdiworksV2
@bogdiworksV2 Ай бұрын
KS is hardly a socialist. Teens can be indoctrinated into all kinds of BS, as in the gender BS case, though they generally care less about politics than adults do. They are usually prone to social contagion.
@jorge2757
@jorge2757 Ай бұрын
Gracias gracias gracias 😌😌😌
@TheMagicLemur
@TheMagicLemur Ай бұрын
7:00 - I live in Anneliese Dodds' constituency and she got criticised at Hustings on trans issues. Ironically it's her that's tasked with fixing this issue for Labour - you couldn't make it up! 😅
@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf Ай бұрын
She`s great mate
@sisiphas
@sisiphas Ай бұрын
My gender critical friends who voted Labour ALREADY REGRET IT.
@GreatSageSunWukong
@GreatSageSunWukong Ай бұрын
why did they do it, they must have known we've all known for years
@pulchralutetia
@pulchralutetia Ай бұрын
That's a bit premature, to say the least. Is so-called 'gender critical feminism' the only thing on God's earth that matters? Millions of people can't get medical treatment, the prisons are close to breaking point, we are being economically raped by the utility companies and young people can't afford to have kids.
@lynseypringle9585
@lynseypringle9585 Ай бұрын
No sympathy! They knew!
@joso7228
@joso7228 Ай бұрын
well thats just one issue - and pressure should sort it out
@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef
@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef Ай бұрын
I'm gender critical and I have no regrets. You speaking for your 'friends' means nothing.
@Jessicajanelove
@Jessicajanelove Ай бұрын
Fantastic Woman ❤
@cnrspiller3549
@cnrspiller3549 Ай бұрын
Ooh, she's good.
@mountwalker2785
@mountwalker2785 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for getting those important points out. Also, can't stress enough how anti-gay large parts of the "queer" and transgender movement are.
@slacktoryrecords4193
@slacktoryrecords4193 Ай бұрын
Extremely anti-gay. The ones who “change their gender” but start out as lesbians and gay men, are nothing more than promoters of conversion therapy themselves. Internalized homophobia is rampant among them. They’re no different from ‘ex-gays’ who claim to have used God to rid themselves of their same sex attraction.
@lindasykes1356
@lindasykes1356 Ай бұрын
Thank you for all you have done and are doing, Helen!
@paulwilson7622
@paulwilson7622 Ай бұрын
She is absolutely correct about women vs trans rights! It just shows how distorted, abnormal and delusional Labor are by making it a political issue about it.
@lewissmith350
@lewissmith350 Ай бұрын
Jk rowling is best.
@queenjasminetemaiharoa7009
@queenjasminetemaiharoa7009 Ай бұрын
Helen is a breath of fresh air in this very polluted world!💓
@RichC89
@RichC89 Ай бұрын
I love Helen Joyce! Recently finished her book. Absolutely brilliant. If you read this comment Helen, know that we love you!
@lewissmith350
@lewissmith350 Ай бұрын
Yes, a nice woman.
@DustyLou
@DustyLou Ай бұрын
What an absolute hero. Helen will fare well in the history books.
@mujy12
@mujy12 Ай бұрын
I stand fully behind you Helen
@sallynolan5928
@sallynolan5928 Ай бұрын
This woman has common sense - a rare thing nowadays.
@dannystuart-cummins4327
@dannystuart-cummins4327 Ай бұрын
This women has a beautiful voice.
@grumpysincebirth
@grumpysincebirth Ай бұрын
Great interview.
@philipmilner9638
@philipmilner9638 Ай бұрын
That's the trouble with Labour, they just don't think...
@pulchralutetia
@pulchralutetia Ай бұрын
And the Tories did? The country has been brought to its knees by the Tory cretins.
@joso7228
@joso7228 Ай бұрын
they think and don't just make bland populist statements like you do
@chrispercival9789
@chrispercival9789 Ай бұрын
Good work Helen. Small point of fact though: Labour didn't win a landslide, tories lost in a sinkhole.
@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef
@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef Ай бұрын
Small point of fact though: Labour had the biggest gains since WW2.
@psyskeptic9979
@psyskeptic9979 Ай бұрын
KZfaq puts a link to the Trevor project. 🙆‍♂
@ravenwing8842
@ravenwing8842 Ай бұрын
Very astute and wise words by Helen. I hope Starmer is listening because he seems to have a ‘pendulum’ problem in general about understanding the need for women’s rights and what a woman is.
@marypatriciabyrne-halaszi6511
@marypatriciabyrne-halaszi6511 Ай бұрын
Thank you Helen
@mr2981
@mr2981 Ай бұрын
Is their woman problem that they don't know what one is?
@Hilooknofurther
@Hilooknofurther Ай бұрын
Great conversation
@rehypotehcation3682
@rehypotehcation3682 Ай бұрын
What does it say about Conservative and now Labor governments that we are now in a situation where someone like Helen is cancelled in favor of views that are totally discredited by the Cass report.
@rshnewton
@rshnewton Ай бұрын
How is she cancelled when she is being interviewed by a national UK media magazine/platform right here?
@danguee1
@danguee1 Ай бұрын
1:33 "we can say that in terms of votes....". No, Helen - did you not look at the election numbers? Labour won only 33% of the popular vote and, in fact, Corbyn's Labour won 33% more votes than Starmer's... The landslide was SEATS ONLY - NOT popular vote
@DrGreenGiant
@DrGreenGiant Ай бұрын
More biased, overreaching and geographically irrelevant context from KZfaq at the top of this video. It's so gross. Great video thought, Helen is superb and a font of knowledge on this subject.
@ycAuntieLala
@ycAuntieLala Ай бұрын
Bio Spex is /should be a protected characteristic in policy. This is the matter words referring to bio spex are smale And bfemale . The question to policy makers wobble over is the use of man and woman. Because part of the trans activism is taking over language and changing definitions all the sudden.
@pseudonamed
@pseudonamed Ай бұрын
Very clear points
@markbrown4955
@markbrown4955 Ай бұрын
Well Lisa Nandy, now you are in power you are going to have to and politicians who have abandoned womens rights are going to have to face the music.
@belverticale
@belverticale Ай бұрын
Helen always laser sharp. If the new government are smart they'll downplay the whole trans bunfight.
@stephendickinson7071
@stephendickinson7071 Ай бұрын
I wonder if this applies to mosques?
@pulchralutetia
@pulchralutetia Ай бұрын
These white middle-class atheistic 'feminists' don't care about the oppression of women in Islamic cultures. They only care about 'transsexuals'.
@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef
@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef Ай бұрын
We all know the answer to that question.
@FarhanAmin1994
@FarhanAmin1994 Ай бұрын
Let's say it should matter what someone claims to "identify" as. Are we talking about anything real and measurable or something nebulous and easily fakeable? If the latter, what are the downsides?
@jezdavis1865
@jezdavis1865 Ай бұрын
Rapists get access to women's jails and women lose their places in sports teams. I reckon they're pretty simple downsides to identify.
@user-wy9dl2xc9v
@user-wy9dl2xc9v Ай бұрын
I really noticed this ,when we ask a question about women's rights the answer is about Trans,we didn't ask about men did we.
@notalefty999
@notalefty999 Ай бұрын
Mastectomies and cross sex hormones = not conversion therapy. Telling a girl distressed with puberty that her feelings are normal and it doesn't mean she is a boy = conversion therapy. Oh and even pointing this out gets you censored on youtube apparently.
@rshnewton
@rshnewton Ай бұрын
I look forward to the Spectator's interview with a trans inclusive figure, for balance.
@ellewilliams5162
@ellewilliams5162 Ай бұрын
Or god forbid having a trans person talking about trans issues
@kerrydevlin
@kerrydevlin Ай бұрын
How hard is it to say a woman is an adult human female
@DisabledDoll
@DisabledDoll Ай бұрын
8:22 if children are too young for doctors to even feel comfortable explaining that the child will grow up without ever gaining a sex drive then children are too young for “gender affirming care”
@francinehorner2792
@francinehorner2792 Ай бұрын
There was extensive research supposedly carried out by the Tavistock wasn’t there? That didn’t quite turn out well did it?
@MarcelGraumans
@MarcelGraumans Ай бұрын
Being on the wrong side of history, science and reality, impressive....
@helenromanelli2544
@helenromanelli2544 Ай бұрын
How very, very brave of Starmer...
@bilbobaggins5408
@bilbobaggins5408 28 күн бұрын
Let's remember that political parties conspire with each other not to raise or debate issues that they want to avoid dealing with even though they know that there is great controversy in the general population. In this way, debate on abortion has been suppressed everywhere in the West except in the USA.
@DeeCee-nb6ev
@DeeCee-nb6ev Ай бұрын
My constituency MP is Rosie Duffield, she did not get my vote this election though she has in the past. Regardless of my vote Rosie is the MP and has more traditional truthful views on this and it would have been a bold and decisive move by Starmer to make her womens Minister. Starmer though hasn’t got what transsexuals want to lose when it comes making the right decision on this.
@jamakaya1332
@jamakaya1332 Ай бұрын
Excellent post-election update from Helen.
@fld9266
@fld9266 Ай бұрын
I’m a straight woman pensioner , I feel all this gender stuff is actually damaging kids - I actually think it’s targeting homosexuals to “make” them more acceptable by changing them . Also talking about how someone feels shouldn’t be banned - by all means ban intense “treatments” like electroshock etc but talking and leaving kids to grow up is important
@billythewhizz8077
@billythewhizz8077 Ай бұрын
Why isn’t there a minister for men?
@FarhanAmin1994
@FarhanAmin1994 Ай бұрын
Even though men are the ones sent to wars, the ones with apparently higher rates of you-know-what, yeah. No Minister for Men. And the reason is obvious: it would be "a bad look".
@shelleyphilcox4743
@shelleyphilcox4743 Ай бұрын
@billythewhizz8077 I'm in support of a Minister for Men (and boys) to tackle issues faced by men, from societal violence to suicide to mens physical health issues.
@joso7228
@joso7228 Ай бұрын
because we men don't need one
@lilith3953
@lilith3953 Ай бұрын
Sigh.
@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef
@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef Ай бұрын
because men don't need one. why? because men have always had rights. women's rights are on the 'whims' of men, women's rights are not guaranteed... men's rights are always guaranteed, especially if you're rich and White. Use your brain!
@leighwallis5782
@leighwallis5782 Ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@neildunford241
@neildunford241 Ай бұрын
I'm kinda done with it seeing, "what is a woman". We know that. I think we need more. "What is trans" & "What is a transwoman"
@SexRealist301
@SexRealist301 Ай бұрын
A man.
@richardgilyead7640
@richardgilyead7640 Ай бұрын
I'd be more interested to see politicians answer the question, "What is a man? And how are you going to keep them out of single-sex spaces?"
@joelhall5124
@joelhall5124 Ай бұрын
Two women's and equality ministers? I can't even understand why you'd need one.
@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef
@howareyoualiveifyoudonteatbeef Ай бұрын
I imagine having your rights guaranteed throughout the vast majority of human history means that you don't have to worry. Meanwhile, women have only had rights to autonomy and freedom for, at most, the past 100 years (out of thousands of years of human civilisation)... So, go develop some perspective and understand that women's rights are never anywhere near as 'guaranteed' as men's rights are.
@DisabledDoll
@DisabledDoll Ай бұрын
13:19 they ARE conversion therapists
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 4 күн бұрын
WHY DO ANIMALS UNDERSTAND SEX
@RichardEnglander
@RichardEnglander Ай бұрын
Sunak - lots of hot air on all sorts but only came up with a new age related smoking ban 🤡🌍😊
@joso7228
@joso7228 Ай бұрын
and he couldn't even stop the boats
@RichardEnglander
@RichardEnglander Ай бұрын
@@joso7228 he didn't want to, he would not let Braverman stop them.
@jillraymond2394
@jillraymond2394 Ай бұрын
Helen is always easy to understand but labour did not win a landslide but whoever we vote for the government always wins
@imperatorvespasian3125
@imperatorvespasian3125 Ай бұрын
this is what gave the world to China and Russia
@jonahwhale9047
@jonahwhale9047 Ай бұрын
... And yet both China & Russia are notoriously homophobic. Perhaps you're batting for the wrong side. In the UK, there is currently an ongoing inquest into the activities of undercover spy cops who spied on more than 1,000 left wing, pacifist & environmental groups since 1968, to such an extent that it would make the Stasi blush, e.g. even involving married officers seducing & impregnate women, in order to gain the trust & access to groups.
@jimoconnor2594
@jimoconnor2594 Ай бұрын
But are they women ?
@BlueFish-g5u
@BlueFish-g5u Ай бұрын
No.
@BibiBitesBack
@BibiBitesBack Ай бұрын
@jimoconnor2594 No Human Being Can Change Their Sex.That is Reality not AGP Fetish & Fantasy, cosplaying at being a woman for kicks & kinks
@BenHall289
@BenHall289 Ай бұрын
Obviously not.
@chernobylcoleslaw6698
@chernobylcoleslaw6698 Ай бұрын
No.
@susanmorton3650
@susanmorton3650 Ай бұрын
Transwomen are 100% men
@khairulnaeim756
@khairulnaeim756 Ай бұрын
Women needs ,how about men needs 🙄
@finianlacy8827
@finianlacy8827 Ай бұрын
When can we start addressing the real issue...the harming and violation of children and men ( clips)
@FeatherPhoenix
@FeatherPhoenix Ай бұрын
I recommend Biological Psychology by Kalat. It's a university course book and touches on transgender identities. Very good read and from a neutral scientific point of view.
@francinehorner2792
@francinehorner2792 Ай бұрын
Electric shock treatment still exists doesn’t. It? They gave it to one of the women who suffered from depression in the Horizon Post Office Drama series Why were they allowed to do that? And why does it still exist? It’s a great deterrent for anyone who may like to speak out. They could have you whipped up by a psychiatrist and an institution and never have control over your self and decisions again! Much clarification on this would be greatly appreciated 🙏🏻xx
@jonahwhale9047
@jonahwhale9047 Ай бұрын
Because extensive research has found ECT to be highly effective for the relief of major depression.
@ellewilliams5162
@ellewilliams5162 Ай бұрын
There are trans women in the UK who underwent electric shock treatment in the past
@ellewilliams5162
@ellewilliams5162 Ай бұрын
@@jonahwhale9047completely different thing
@jonahwhale9047
@jonahwhale9047 Ай бұрын
@@ellewilliams5162 Do you mean trans men? The people in the Horizon scandal weren't being punished with ECT, it was to treat their depression. Probably the same in the cases that you are are referring to too.
@iainmackenzieUK
@iainmackenzieUK Ай бұрын
This whole topic seems to have been initiated by people who simply want to feel outraged in a conflict that can never be resolved. Another 'us n them' , black n white, blue n brown eyed, newcastle n sunderland, Arab n Jew. Cancelled n woke. And there are really more important things for Spectator to grapple with at this time if it is going continue to be taken seriously.
@joso7228
@joso7228 Ай бұрын
children having their testicles removed is not important?
@iainmackenzieUK
@iainmackenzieUK Ай бұрын
@@joso7228 Shall we make a list? Of all things that are important? maybe even prioritise that list? what you think?
@lilith3953
@lilith3953 Ай бұрын
I can understand that if you are a man who fundamentally doesn't care about women's rights or the wellbeing of children, then this really doesn't affect you and you have no reason to care. Congratulations: you're a lousy person.
@slacktoryrecords4193
@slacktoryrecords4193 Ай бұрын
@@iainmackenzieUKmate, there will always be issues that you don’t care about that actually do affect other people. Yes, some things aren’t at the top of the majority of people’s lists. But when it comes time to draft POLICY, it’s important to get those issues correct. You can tune out when a policy that doesn’t interest you is being discussed-just don’t then presume to understand the issue and speak on it if it’s one you’ve avoided thinking about because it’s boring to you.
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