Wow, I do exactly the same thing! Including the hanging leg lifts!! Brilliant minds ...

Yeah I got the heels to hands from a John Meadows video. He was great.

Read the book(s) and they spell out exactly when you're a novice, advanced novice, intermediate and advanced lifter - all bagged in your ability to recover and adapt to the weight. They also have excellent programming for all of those levels of progression. It's dry material but worth its weight in gold.

tough season

Gross

Additional food for thought. It's relatively easy to ramp up metabolic conditioning after you're already strong. I typically ramp up via 3-4 short runs, 3 weeks before an annual physical fitness test, which includes a shuttle run and two mile run. I'm 240 and naturally slow, so that says something about the metcon provided by lifting. OTOH, strength takes a lot of diligence & work (-) while also being a longer lasting adaptation (+), so I prioritize it. I also enjoy bag workouts and incorporate them once or twice a week, after my lifts. I have to limit my striking and pad holding bc all the physical impacts start to affect joints and tendons. It took me a long time to swallow my pride, but my body feels so much better bc of it.

It is if you're starting out overweight. SS is written assuming everyone is some underweight teenager.

​@zerrodefex I got fat, do I care? No. Eventually I'll cut, but for now I'm not too concerned with getting bigger, so long as my strength goes through the roof.

@@zerrodefex Well if your overweight then lose weight first and then do the program, which is what Rip tells people to do. Starting a strength program when your already fat is just fucking stupid.

Rip and I differ on a few things (politics, lactose tolerance, etc.) but the thing is, the program he is selling promises one thing: increased strength. The only empirical evidence for increased strength is more weight. I don’t know if you can fault him for this.

I'm not sure why SS and Rippetoe defining you as a novice based on your lifts annoys you. It's important to distinguish where you are in your lifting career so you know what programme is appropriate to do.

My wife has five brothers. They’re all engineers and computer programmers. I’m WAY stronger than all of them (i’m 5’8 squatting 320x5). The physical strength of people my immediate circles isn’t the metric I use to decide if I’ve reached my potential.

Can u explain 531 please

​@@ManuandrickyGoogle "wendler 531".

Go look at programs by Boris Sheiko. They work.

If you have never touched a barbell maybe. Newbie gains are real. Once those go away it get really hard. Especially for pressing movements.

It's almost like it's called starting strength

If your rest times are 15 min per lift you're well beyond novice stage. If you're at novice your rests should be 1-3 minutes. You don't warm up during work sets, defeats the purpose of warming up. I think this is a troll post.

@@aosdjgolajsdfgoasrg I think you either haven't read the book, or haven't had competent coaching from a SS coach. I am certainly still a novice, lol. 5 mins rest between sets equals 15 mins per lift. That is the prescribed way to do it. Grant has talked about warming up during the rest between work sets as well. It works just fine, but only saves a few minutes. Everyone I know needs 1.5 hrs for 3 lifts, give or take a few minutes. I don't want to be in the gym longer than needed, but I won't rush and injure myself.

@@SLG1911 I'm not a novice anymore, but takes me more than1.5 hours for two main lifts and one accessory. I only workout twice per week. Squat and deadlift especially take more than 5 min rest after each set.

Other programs can do it with much less injury risk, something more important for older lifters starting out.

@@zerrodefex That just isn't true at all, but no need to disagree with me, just visit any SS gym, plenty of 60+ folks figuring out how to be strong with a coach.

I think the idea is that to become a good bodybuilder, step one is getting strong. Getting strong would be the foundation to running an effective body buillding program.

As a beginner, you'd do great on SS for putting on mass. Beginner bodybuilding programs are barbell focused anyway. Heavily isolating cables and machines, and high rep ranges are good for intermediate and advanced lifters who are running into fatigue issues.

Pssst... It's not illegal to add curls and triceps extensions to the end of your workout. Just accept that your workout may take a bit longer. The most useful thing about Starting Strength for aesthetics bros is that it teaches them how to train hard, which seems to be the biggest issue in that community. Also keep in mind that once you finish the NLP, you can do as much bodybuilding as you want and you'll be in a way better position to do so having gotten strong on the compound movements over the last 2-6 months.

poor kids being "pushed" strength like crack 😂😂😂 yea, it's bad for wannabe bodybuilders that want to stay skinny.

Uhhhh... this is news?? Where on earth did bodybuilding ever get mentioned?

THAT is the real con, that to him everything else is crap.

You now understand the video

I don't think any of that is necessarily discouraged, but I do agree. Get outside and move as well. All part of the process and just being a healthy human imo.

Grant is a good ambassador for the SS brand.

If you write "squat 3×5 of 315" for your next workout, you'll never have to listen to him again. So that "con" is false.

You don't know what your talking about. What's your PRs?

@@matthewstrauts5427 Is that aimed at me? If so I do know what I'm talking about. However I dont know my PRs as Im not interested in lifting for PRs. I did try a 3x5 program couple years back though and my legs blew up but bench stalled pretty much straight away, well after a few weeks. Id be surprised if I could 1RM bodyweight but you never know. Sticking to the 'big-5' is not the way to go if you just want a bit of strength, muscle mass and general fitness though.

@@matthewstrauts5427 I also run about twice a week and I don't know what my running PRs are, but Im sure they would be pretty bad too.

How is "squat 3 sets of 5, and then add 5 lbs on the next workout" a cult?

​@@Donks-R-usI think it's just a popular throwaway line people have seen others say at some point in time and parrot it because it must be true because a bunch of random people online said it. Same could he said for people's unabashed hatred of the Olympic press, for example. Just one of those things for whatever reason.

It's less surprising when you learn about Rip's prior involvement with the other cult called CrossFit.

@@Donks-R-us That in and of itself is not, but Rips insistence that those are the only things that work. An example would be him dogging the high bar squat and front squat. I get it. That's his schtick. That's how he makes his money, by promoting his system to the detriment of all others. The simple fact is that for newbies, practically any decent program will build strength

Should he just keep hammering that the program is ‘perfect’? There is more to fitness and health than just absolute weight on the bar, and that is all he is acknowledging

3x10 is bodybuilder shit. You want to get strong, run real strength programs that ever rarely go passed 8 reps. They mostly stay above 80% of your max for singles/doubles/triples. The Ed Coan deadlift program alone, simple as it is to follow, blows SS out of the water with a nuke.

@@pHaTtY111111111111 BS !!! Some of the Best Professional Hall of Fame Athletes trained in the weightroom with 3x10

@operationtruth288 3x10 is basic hypertrophy range. Fairly rarely will powerlifters or strongman athletes work in that set range. Maybe...MAYBE at the start of a program's hypertrophy block to put on size but never for actual strength purposes. Drop names or you're just an angry child spouting your own bullshit rhetoric.

@@pHaTtY111111111111 Powerlifters are Fat Azz Slobs so are Modern Strongman. Who wants to look like CHIT ??

That's why it's called 'Starting Strength', you don't do the 3x5 forever...