The ONLY Thing Luke and Palpatine Agreed On in the Book of the Sith - Star Wars Explained

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@jakobnunez4964
@jakobnunez4964 8 ай бұрын
One of my favorite things is when a villain and hero can put their pride aside and actually agree on something.
@InfiniteNaos
@InfiniteNaos 8 ай бұрын
Sometimes knowledge from the Sith is understandable but not everything is to be absolute, especially when Luke adopted some Sith teachings into his new Order. I have stated in other videos that Plagueis the Wise was the equivalent to a Jedi Consular, but was far more a scientist than philosopher. He inherited that mindset from his master Darth Tenebrous who was a Byth which was a species completely dedicated to scientific reasoning, rarely ever adopting philosophy. Plagueis may have been one of the most knowledgeable Sith ever, but was very foolish for pushing away legends and myths and only focused on the most minuet and the science side of things.
@Alztism
@Alztism 8 ай бұрын
But more so , that despite shunning the idea that vitiate lived a thousand years he was walking a similar path in on sole body with his mind completely intact , he really was brilliant in his own , different way than the majority of baneite and old order sith who never thought to try and communicate with midichlorians the way plagueis did
@InfiniteNaos
@InfiniteNaos 8 ай бұрын
@@Alztism You’re correct in the very idea of being in contact with the midichlorians themselves rather than using rituals of the past that either failed or weren’t as successful using a more scientific mindset. Though the force uses a cellular type of connection to their hosts they’re also felt throughout nature, even in space just as Yoda stated in ESB. “... my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere...” Without this thinking then the force became more of a tool rather than an extension of one’s self. Even the Sith knew about this trait with nearly all things in the Known Galaxy, yet still chased the Dark for power.
@kendalldawson162
@kendalldawson162 8 ай бұрын
@@InfiniteNaos rock. Sounds like a Jedi guardian ie Obi-Wan (old wizard, "ghost..." "Ken - no bi," what is 'no bi' in Japanese literature? Ken in part of kendo or "kin") and are as old as Yoda, entendre innuendo, rock, rock in space, time & time in future, a long talk again, and learn from, and.
@eds1942
@eds1942 8 ай бұрын
Both the ‘Book of Sith’ and ‘the Jedi Path’ are great reads for anyone who wants to learn more about both groups, some of the history and some insight into the mindset of established characters.
@inquisitorgarza312
@inquisitorgarza312 8 ай бұрын
A broken clock is right twice and this one of the rare moments were people from different spectrums of the force agree on something, and make no mistake that the both of them will never agree on each other statement.
@BigHeadClan
@BigHeadClan 8 ай бұрын
That’s the thing though both the Jedi and Sith philosophy’s are critically flawed. Each have unique insight to specific aspects but they can’t go beyond that. It’s why characters like Luke , Revan and Asoka to a lesser extent are rather unique in the lore. ROTS does a great job illustrating how the Jedi and Sith aren’t really any different.
@Gor85
@Gor85 8 ай бұрын
I agree with Luke and Sidiious. "There is no death,there is the Force". Both agreed on this. And we all agree with them. Plagueis focused too much on midichlorians. He ignored everything else. He completely dismissed Force Ghosts. In the grand view of things Plagueis was a failure. May the Force be with you too 😊Have a nice day too😊
@EclipseIsMe
@EclipseIsMe 8 ай бұрын
I can just imagine that conversation. Luke: Im gonna kill you palpatine! Palpatine: Have you ever heard of the tragedy of darth plagues the wise? Luke: oh yeah i hate that guy. Palpatine: Dude same! Luke: yk what lets just stop fighting and be friends! Palpatine: Yeah!
@mwg500
@mwg500 8 ай бұрын
Plagueis was taught be Tenebrous, who believed the Force was simply an energy field that could be manipulated. Tenebrous' master apparently believed the (dark side of the) Force was some sort of malevelent will or some such.
@MrShawnbright1
@MrShawnbright1 8 ай бұрын
The ironic thing about luke criticising Plagueis, is that Luke is a direct descendant of the midichlorian research and manipulation that Plagueis carried out. If Plagueis didn't go in this direction, there would be no Anakin, hence no luke. Anakin and Luke ending up being probably the 2 most powerful Jedi to ever live, all down to Plagueis's so called narrow focused and misguided scientific approach to the midichlorians.
@Zozo806
@Zozo806 8 ай бұрын
they also agreed on wearing caped robes
@1fan996
@1fan996 8 ай бұрын
Does anyone else think this book should be adapted as a "Clone Wars" style show? The Sith version of "Tales of the Jedi".
@knightingale9833
@knightingale9833 8 ай бұрын
Just because someone is evil, doesn’t mean all of their ideas are bad. Everyone is right at least some of the time.
@Dakotabrewer166
@Dakotabrewer166 8 ай бұрын
They both agreed that palpatine, Luke, and Vader would make one happy family. 😊
@marcushillen8680
@marcushillen8680 8 ай бұрын
"This Galaxy ain't big enough for the two of us" Luke spits a meiloorun seed 3m through Tattooine sand and slowly puts his hand on a wood grip 6 shooter blaster holstered on his hip Palpatine's fingers wiggle diligently over his, as if he's not just going to spam lightning Cad Bane's body leans against a saloon pillar, his body dare not move, his pupil-less eyes dart between the two as a gust of wind gallops a tumbleweed across a warm two-sun horizon *DRAW*
@aodhhanswtor7252
@aodhhanswtor7252 8 ай бұрын
Once again you found another fascinating bit of lore! I agree the fascination with midichlorians Plagueis had is misguided. This also is why he doesn't believe in force ghosts of any kind. As he sees one requiring the other in order to wield the force. Alas, we come to something many haven't thought about... do force ghosts have midichlorians? I'll let you ponder on this by yourself! :) It's likely, midichlorians are merely just one conduit the force uses, and likely a relatively weak one. When you think of the force powers of other entities in the universe who wield the force, it's likely they don't have midichlorians, or at least it isn't the only conduit which bonds them to the force. If you bathe in the Pool of Knowledge or drink from the Font of Power you are instantly filled with OP midicholorians? Not likely.
@WatchListConnoisseur
@WatchListConnoisseur 8 ай бұрын
Disney Feminism Girl Power is stronger than Midichlorian count.
@alexsaquatics4624
@alexsaquatics4624 8 ай бұрын
I got a new halocron. What did the Galaxy do when they found out the jedi were innocent This whole time and Murder for nothing
@timothywashburn8218
@timothywashburn8218 8 ай бұрын
They agree because THE FORCE is foundational for both viewpoints.
@jedisenshi5510
@jedisenshi5510 8 ай бұрын
And yet when Luke decided to attempt to defeat Palpatine on Byss he chose to apprentice himself to the Sith Lord.
@davidsmith7962
@davidsmith7962 8 ай бұрын
It’s very interesting that Luke & Palpatine agreed on some things.
@kendalldawson162
@kendalldawson162 8 ай бұрын
Q: IS PALPATINE OR DARTH PLÆGUS THE REAL CHOSEN ONE/S? Skywalkers are human while Plægus is humanoid and Anikin is a "type" of in vitro fertility and Skywalker can be metaphor for "made." And between Maul being taken for Sith and Nightsisters, Shimí fits in to Anikin being about age seven when found by Qui Gon?
@tonymengela3575
@tonymengela3575 8 ай бұрын
The force is the force its neither dark nor light, it is the person who is light and dark and chooses talents and how they are used. some can be exploited easier through anger but some anger is needed just as much as love or laughter or any other emotion. emotion gives power through adrenoline and I see no reason why this is why Dark side seems stronger. its all the same its the mind thats different
@kevincruz-hernandez6321
@kevincruz-hernandez6321 8 ай бұрын
I kinda want to see how Palpatine compares to Abeloth, just in character traits, I know Abeloth claps pretty easy
@newhybrid101
@newhybrid101 8 ай бұрын
I was reading on Star Wars Supernatural Encounters,things like Son of the Suns(speculated to be Anakins higher form),Nahkash,Supreme Maker etc Why arent KZfaq channels talking about that stuff? There are beings far above the Bedlam Spirits And the other question is why do people even think about Disney when Legends is far superior and more expanded on? Does it really matter that some greedy satanic corporation doesnt licence it as canon? All stories are just stories,their only value are the impact they have on the reader. How does Disneys take over prevent you from enjoying Legends? Even World Between Worlds Anakin is just a cheap far weaker copy of Son of Suns Anakin Dont get me wrong its fine to enjoy some Disney stuff,i myself enjoy the Vader comics etc but to be FRUSTRATED about it is foolish
@user-yq9im9dk9z
@user-yq9im9dk9z 8 ай бұрын
Well, Supernatural Encounters is not licensed, Disney decided to end Legends, so I understand being frustrated that they ended a better universe for a downgrade
@LordWyatt
@LordWyatt 8 ай бұрын
For all his Wisdom and accumulated Knowledge Plagueis was blind to the nature of the Force
@curtdecker694
@curtdecker694 8 ай бұрын
Is this a re-upload. I know I have heard this same exact video on this channel before.
@AllanChong-id3hr
@AllanChong-id3hr 8 ай бұрын
Wow! Thats so interesting!
@overlordmgcover2262
@overlordmgcover2262 8 ай бұрын
Still got both the Book of the Jedi and the Book of the Sith. They were always very fascinating reads.
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 8 ай бұрын
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS
@willwingardner6038
@willwingardner6038 8 ай бұрын
What is "The Naboo Legend of Chaos"? 6:20
@DLR1997
@DLR1997 8 ай бұрын
It's Hell in their universe
@Xsorus
@Xsorus 8 ай бұрын
Sidious should talk, he's lucky Plagueis master fucked up his Foresight, cause Sidious would of got his ass beat otherwise.
@Lmckay01
@Lmckay01 8 ай бұрын
video title missing an "and" ?
@maxsiemens304
@maxsiemens304 8 ай бұрын
When both a a Sith and a Jedi agree you are a failure then you really suck.
@jaredquinney204
@jaredquinney204 8 ай бұрын
Interesting
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 8 ай бұрын
It's a surprise that Luke agreed at all on anything with Sidious.
@VictorVonDoom.
@VictorVonDoom. 8 ай бұрын
To save you watching the whole video The only thing they agreed on was George Lucas based Darth Vader off of me
@douglasfoley2060
@douglasfoley2060 8 ай бұрын
Palpatine and Luke are both wrong. Learning the mysteries and how to control the force and the medi’s is very important. Look how the force created Anakin in response to Plagueis trying to influence them. He literally made them angry and caused them to create a being to use to retaliate against him. To control the force and the medi’s is to control the universe.
@Aldgri
@Aldgri 8 ай бұрын
I’m sure they could both agree 1 + 1 = 3 tbh
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting.
@Hungary_0987
@Hungary_0987 8 ай бұрын
Crusty musty
@TheHulk-ns5bx
@TheHulk-ns5bx 8 ай бұрын
I commented to
@noHarmony1
@noHarmony1 8 ай бұрын
Luke does not understand "giving up on hope"? But why did he then give up on a Padawan who was also his nephew because he had a bad dream and then went to sulk on a planet in the middle of nowhere drinking weird manatee milk for the rest of his life? Ah, I know, lowest of low hanging fruit, sorry. The sequels were made by the Sith to instill unextinguishable hatred in people and appearently it worked on me. My bad.
@samuelrobles3737
@samuelrobles3737 8 ай бұрын
Day 280 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
@eaphantom9214
@eaphantom9214 8 ай бұрын
A side note - Shame about the Ashoka series It's been dubbed and I agree - Wasted potential 🙁 Very disappointing
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 8 ай бұрын
1
@amariwhite57
@amariwhite57 8 ай бұрын
First
@edwardcody1671
@edwardcody1671 8 ай бұрын
So Luke and the emperor wrote notes to each other? What kind of garbage is this?
@Hemskelol
@Hemskelol 8 ай бұрын
Luke Palpatine? Quality on this channel is dropping rapidly, just clickbait content stolen from authors.
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