I think some of the women in the real life clips were having anxiety attacks.

I think you lose your argument when you define cersi as a Karen. Karens are self intituled, Cersi isn't self entitled she very entitled by her society. You wouldn't call Queen Elizabeth self entitled because she's the queen. Karen's have that power because of the whiteness but because they're women there's a level of disempowerment that they have to face. Regular white women. That's the mystique around Karen's. They try to use the little bit of power they have and make it seem bigger than it really is. But cersei just like Queen Elizabeth has power, that even power that goes beyond most her male counterparts. Plus you're making assumptions about white women in our world and juxtaposing it on cersei who doesn't exist in our contemporary world. How Karen's got their name well at least they're contemporary name was through their engagements with people of color. Yes cersei calls the dothraki barbarians. But you can't juxtaposition her power with that of a white women in our world. Whiteness doesn't exist in the world the game of thrones, well at least officially. The history of slavery has established the notion of the Karen. This disempowered white woman during a time of slavery who was just a step above the slaves that she was in control of but outside that had no power. There's no reference to slavery in the way that we experience in our world therefore it's hard to give cersei that Karen gnome de plume.

Dolores Umbridge in Harry Potter in the book acts more like a dictator I say the Dolores Umbridge of the book also when there was proof that Voldemort returned. she was in the seventh book happily following the rules set by Voldemort and sentencing muggle-borns. I like it that in the book Dumbledore's office actually seals itself up so Dolores Umbridge couldn't use it when she became the temporary Headmaster

Karens use their whiteness, or their power against socioeconomic disadvantage people/people of color, who are based on our capitalist system, religated to positions of lower income as a permanent under class. Cersi kills white people who are of her class(lady olena).

Finally you're assuming that Karen's exist beyond their interaction with people of color. Karen's only exist because people of color gave them that name therefore this discourse on who Karen's are should only be focused on their interactions with people of color. Yeah it sucks when Wendy talks down on some poor unassuming white guy who she's higher in socioeconomic status, but Karen's only exist because people color have called in that. Karen's talked down on people color regardless of this so economic status so I could be a rich black person and still have a Karen talk down on me but a Karen's not going to talk down on a rich white man because of the racial dynamic. I think you need to focus your videos a little bit more.

Yep!

I don't feel like that's Cercei though. Cercei seems very aware of her privileged position.

Actually Jamie is younger twin. It was stated clearly, and that is why everyone finds Cercei hating Tyrion hilarious as most know Jamie is probably more likely to kill her. Though at the end they both got killed by bricks so the prophecy is useless I suppose.

HearMeRoar I think Jaime will still kill her in the books if G.R.R.M. finishes them.

@@martijnprinzen7124 are you sure about that. How about when she tried to get her brother killed from blind rage of her oppressive sons death. Or how she placed the high septum in charge just so that she can get vengeance against her other sons wife and when it backfired on her, how she victimized herself. Many more examples

Simp

@@A-No-One huh? I dunno why you calling me a simp for showing sympathy for women named Karen at birth. Gender aside you need to be good to people over all. Kindness doesn't mean you've been whipped. And some men call other men simp because if simps get the honey the ones at war with women have to swallow their pride.

Necro Gnosis ..simp??

@@victorolvera6482 lol just a joke i write everyone. Everyone says this nowadays.

@@A-No-One and no one laughs

That’s the worst part

Cannon Hinnant, Laura Ashley Anderson, Veronica Lee Baker, Samantha Josephson

her name ...is.... Carolyn Bryant, the ultimate karen. Worst part is... she's still alive

George Stinney too

Yes, there was also the Karen (Fannie Taylor) who got the Rosewood Massacre started. Similar in To Kill a Mockingbird, she lied on a black man (assault!).

she peaked in high school and doesn’t want to accept the fact that the world doesn’t bow before her like it did when she was in hs

I watched Clueless yesterday, and thought "Wow, Cher probably became such a Karen by now".

@@squash6497 Cher would be too self-aware by now to be a Karen. She started off as clueless but was actively working towards enlightenment, selflessness, consideration for others, and humanitarian efforts. She'd be the one in the grocery store line telling the actual Karen she lacks class. Plus, even if she wanted to be a Karen, Dionne would never let her get away with it. ;)

@@88angels Those are some very good points. I retract my statement.

Not really.. She WAS the queen B in high school n stick stuck in it hence the entitlement

I genuinely lol’d at this.

Omgggg goddamn

There are criminal Karens as well. Because I saw a tv show article about one of them! Luckily, She got arrested for racism against a black person.

No, it should be called a class action

I thought the technical term was a "privilege"

I fucking hate my Name.

It will pass. Every generation has a different name for these types of people. I remember Becky being a catch all phrase now apparently its used if you are a younger "karen" few years from now they will be called something else.

@@sigco1019 There was a meme listing the Karens at various ages. The eldest I think was Gertrude. She had a gun.

SAME

Aishwarya Shri I’ve worked with a lady named Karen before, she’s very kind and humble 🙂

I agree with this I felt the exact same way about it

@4Freedom4All so how many times have you been called a Karen?

@4Freedom4All stop trying to make "karenism" a thing. It never will be.

She's more Becky

@4Freedom4All So how many times have you been called that?

I want to see this too

Gonna drop harder than Adolf did in the 40's

Was just thinking the saaaammmmeeeee thing

I love them! But based on the voice overs I think there's a third person on their team... Not sure

@@amzchatz3923 i feel like that exactly how a well thought out insight is generated.

Couldn’t have said it any better. They get it.

I kind of disagreed with that. The system provides them with privilege. That’s the reason that they’re enforcing it. While the patriarchy harms them, they benefit from being victims

@@hartjefferson5461 I agree and disagree. Privilege is such a balancing act that it can tip the minute you come into contact with someone who has more or less privilege than you. Karen is usually white and has that privilege but while being a woman harms her a bit when it comes to dealing with men, she weaponizes her class status and race as a double whammy to get what she wants. It's why racism is a common trait with her. She will actively seek out those she sees as beneath her so as to keep her privilege up. It's why she's often seen threatening black people with the police knowing that could be a death sentence or harrassing people in customer service whose livelihood depends on being nice to her. There's a saying in my country, "Monkey know what tree to climb." Karens embody that. They will never go toe to toe with men unless her privilege trump's theirs (usually with race or class but sometimes sexual orientation or being able bodied as well).

Yes narcissistic scapegoating mom’s been around 2000”years

That seems true

What an eye opening explanations. On TV's, movies, media have created so many Karens I'm sure it's based on real people. Unfortunately, some people have seen this as an opportunity to use on less fortunate people and they see themselves as oh.. we are better and important than others. They don't treat like that more fortunate people. Wow people can be brainwashed easily. That's why we accept their behaviour is normal and let them act like that ways. This is real brainwashing that make themselves indirectly treat them differently. Very cunning

@@umchinagirard1800 I am old enough to remember watching media where they just focused on tormenting their white peers for not being a perfect mom or being unmarried. And this is what they do away from their white Mommy and Me classes?

The violence against them is being recorded too. Think before you act social media will not pay for your lawyer or come to your aid if you get arrested. They don't care anymore for you than the do about the target of the hate.

Kenneth Copeland is a male Karen

Miss Molly or a lizard Karen

That's because unless the male has power he will get his ass beat for running his mouth to the wrong person. The karen uses her feminitty to project weakness . Shes a pretend victim

Matthew Cancel so is the Far-right Christian male though. They always complain how oppressed they are. Look at this last week’s insurrection in DC

I criticize everyone

Karens come in swarms?!

OMG I LOVE IT

That’s what I said as much as I love love catelyn well I must love the actress so there for j love catelyn she’s more the Karen or has more of the traits then Cercie to become one but both are equally as powerful catelyn probably more so as she had little finger and robb two opposing sides but she trusted both and in the end both got her killed .

@@kkandsims4612 Catelyn is the real Karen of Westeros haha

I think this actually proves more that Cersei is a kind of Karen - her power stems only from the men in her life (of course, before the season 6 finale). First through her father, then her husband (becoming a Queen), and then her male children. Just like the video says, she props up this system despite the fact that she ultimately has 0 power in her own right - look at how quickly her downfall comes due to her sleeping around, when her husband was literally famous for fathering a million bastards and got off scot-free.

@@m.k4447 But she ends up obtaining the power that was withheld from her for so long from season 6 and so on. That's why I think she transcends the Karen trope because in the end she ends up one of the most powerful people on the show. Her biggest downfall, her death, comes from the cut throat way she rose to power coming for her in the end but she never lost faith in the belief that she was powerful and in the end she proved herself right.

I agree! Cersei is a narcissist not a Karen.

Probably flagging the video for everything.

Actually they are complaining its sexist in these comments

Well, maybe because of the racial ignorance, or just general ignorance part

Maybe that’s how Karen’s were in their youth. Their naivety/ignorance was seen as cute but as they age it no longer is.

@@coolio4843 Bingo! And I think when they were younger it was more passive aggressive but when they're older it's just straight up aggressive. Lol

Ikr

@@yassebro6948 yeah but Karen's think they know everything, Karen Smith knows that she doesn't

lol

Lol

Baha 🤣

I LAUGHED PIT LOUD SOKCKCODOD

+ 100 internet point to you. Well done :)

Ahhh Lady Catherine: the ultimate Karen.

Ah yes! Absolutely.

Yo, Caroline Bingley is more of a Karen than Lady de Bourgh

Yes, one of her protagonists was also a bit of a Karen. Miss Emma Woodhouse.

@@waterfallsdontsaymeow2917 absolutely !! Emma is such a Karen!!!

Every Karen I have known in life is a nice, caring person. But I guess memes convince the masses, and there are some people who push for what they believe they deserve and are horrible to those who they think are menial, particularly those who work in shops, cafes, restaurants, and other retail outlets.

You can read up on Karen Attilah

Imagune if you were mixed instead of black. The Karen half would be calling the cops on the black half 😂

Whoopi Goldberg's real name is Karen but she spells it Caryn.

You're black??

Some kids hate being "that" kid.

WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! Let me get this perfectly straight: You comment something that is completely unrelated to the fact that I have two HAZARDOUSLY HOT girlfriends? Considering that I am the unprettiest KZfaqr worldwide, it is really incredible. Yet you did not mention it at all. I am VERY disappointed, dear ejdn

Likewise, it's the best analysis channel, in my opinion, and I always come away from their videos feeling more enlightened! 👏🏾✨

@@AxxLAfriku XD

This is the dumbest video I've ever seen... A "Karen" is the personification of a social justice warrior... a snow flake. Highly triggered at any moment... It has never been about racism, or vaccines... Nice try on the re-branding strategy though...Lol

@@LCLC727 you're confused

hmmm 🤔🤔

TRUE! Unfortunately

I don’t think that is true not all women are Karens

Preaaaach 👏👏👏 I had the same experience. Yet those gentlemen don't deserve a nickname and an avalanche of memes, wonder why? This is why I take 0 interest in jokes concerning these power dynamics, no matter who they target. Much rather do my criticism via political & social commentary.

Thank you 👏👏👏👏👏

That’s alarming for sure and I hope everything was ok. If it turned out that nothing was wrong and you insisted on investigating and escalating, then yes-you were being a Karen. I hope you saved a life that night

@@valthomas9786 apparently, it was just a brother and sister (adults) just messing around, but I've certainly never head screams like that from an adult in public before. I didn't escalate, though I was worried about turning my back because the man was acting very aggressive. I hope everyone was okay, but the woman was looking okay, no one looked hurt.

Caring for other's safety is such a Karen thing to do...sure. That was actually really nice of you

if she is white, though, retards will claim her a "karen" out of their lowmind racism.

Yes, Elena is the epitome of a "Karen." She tries to present a perfect facade throughout most of the show, but ultimately can't accept that her children aren't perfect until it all falls apart towards the end! 😥💔

And her Mom was a Karen who had no regard for her grandkids yet guilty her daughter about working.

Reese Weatherspoon is just amazing period.

This is the dumbest video I've ever seen... A "Karen" is the personification of a social justice warrior... a snow flake. Highly triggered at any moment... It has never been about racism, or vaccines... Nice try on the re-branding strategy though...Lol

@@LCLC727 What you're speaking about is the white savior liberal white woman that wants cookies and asspats for sharing the only MLK quote white people share while simultaneously talking over WoC during feminist intersectionality discussions and is thinking about adopting a poor little black baby because there's just something about them but will change their name if it's too urban sounding. After all she's saving the baby from the ghetto that is being bought out by investment realtors that will open a chiropractic and massage studio, Starbucks and a Chipotle in the plaza where the Family Dollar, Advance America and Autozone used to be, so the Karen's in the video can call 911 on the black cashier because her coupon is expired and the refusal to accept is threatening her and even though she refuses to leave she doesn't feel safe....

People have been using it indiscriminately to slap a woman down any time she asserts herself or has an opinion you don't like.

@@moonlily1 Yes!

True. I can't tell you how often I hear people throw around "Anybody can be a Karen". Like, no. You're missing the point.

@@silverspider01 There are times when a situation does call for intervention, even times when you really should ask to see the manager. Neither one of those is negative in and of themselves. You're not a "Karen" when your complaint is valid and you have a perfectly good reason for what you're doing. You're a "Karen" when you're having a pointless fit over a trivial issue or attempting to weaponize privilege to hurt other people just because you think you can.

@@silverspider01 I think we all can have Karen tendencies, but that's different.

Agreed. It doesn't need the color component to have meaning

agreed. I've definitely met some POC Karens, working customer service. One woman even made me cry due to how ANGRY she got at me for saying "yes, yes, yes" when serving her.

I’m baffled as to why race had to be included in the “Karen” trope, other than to show how “woke” and “un racist” the narrators are. Entitled, rude, bullies, come in all shapes, sizes,ages, genders and races.

Nope there entitled white women.....you must have some traits yourself.

White people have MORE power. They deserve their own specific insult.

I have to say though: Umbridge aint a Karen in the Books. The ‚Stickler for Rules’ was added in the Films. They changed a lot.

I think the writers for this script were white, and so that is a blind spot.

Manophere. com Yikes.

Same they didn’t address how a Karen’s actions can lead to a black person’s death.

@Manophere. com wtf

@Jael S you're so intent on absolving karens from their crimes. You must be one yourself

I didn’t realize that she was a Karen! Although she was entitled she really wasnt good at it like her snootiness has too much of a comedic edge. The only time I notice was when she went to the dentist.

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Freaking unfair!

It’s not fair at all. Its a stereotypical name associated with a certain demographic of white women. Kinda like “Jamal” for black men. I’m sure you’re a wonderful person. Imagine being named Osama or Adolph…

@@valthomas9786 or jerome leroy tyrel/tyrone or lamont

@Ryan StewartNot Ashley, 'Ashleigh'.

It can go 2 ways. Either they recognize what they're dealing with and grow up relatively okay. Or they turn into spoiled brats.

I know. If you thought that Karens were the worst, then think of the brats they raise who are learning about this type of demanding behaviour directly from them! 😱

@@muhammadabdulrehman1540 speaking from experience?

@@ssh1487 second hand experience. Thankfully

Or more likely, she has the theme park version of a mental health disorder.

She's a "becky"

Ikr, Mean Girls Karen wasn't even rude. She may be dumb but she was the nicest of all the Plastics

@@josenotmarichan Yeah, innocently insensitive fits her more negative traits than anything else.

She's identified as a Becky in the Becky trope video

They will be the last of Karens.

And complaining about pathetically trivial things I think

@Geoffrey Harris By your comment, a disabled woman complaining about able-boied people parking in the handicap parking space is a Karen.

Great way to put it I'm with ya

Yeah, some big portion of the time, "Karen" is going to be right, but she looks like a Karen, sounds like a Karen, we can dismiss her as a Karen.

@@briannewman9285 you know, this isn't really trivial for disabled people

PLENTY!

They're Becky

@@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 sorry that happened to you, some ppl are beyond....

@@schristine159 Want to know the worst part? Her name is Actually KAREN! (No joke)

There are entitled men too. Ieorked on a cruise ship, and I was never shouted on my face by female passengers, but by men.

This!!!! The evolution is real!!

Somebody fill me in on what a "Becky" is?

@@iamV10010 Becky Conner?

@@iamV10010 A white teenage girl with a profound sense of entitlement. Spoiled and usually the daughter of a Karen.

We don't speak about... ugh "BECKY".

Best part of the video. Damn.

I love these girls and people like you who notice thier unbiased efforts!

I really liked they pointed out male Karens are more common and usually worse but it's the patriarchy that allows the villainization of a prolly marginalized victim. It's like that saying that abused people abuse others. They are often also victims historically of the crime they perpetrate on others. I'm really impressed with this channel.

@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 this my favorite quote in the video too. seems to apply to anyone we see as "villains."

Male narcissists are not made into such a pop culture character.

@@Lalan396 true thst

Plenty of male Karen’s out there!

Class and race But I definitely agree.

The gender component involves the Karen's modus operandi of feigning victim-hood, whereas the male counterpart would have to feign strength or authority instead of playing the victim.

😂😭😂😭🤦🏾

National Hockey League?

entitlement check anger check random neurotic outburst double check

Maybe because they are the easiest way to try discredit feminism, but its obviously a bad faith argument.

The racism when they actively get men of colour hurt, arrested, killed is pretty damaging as well.

To some men, they are plain evidence that the feminists have totally won.

it's the job of feminists to antagonize the Karens. If they refuse to do, then they can't get anvgry if they're being conflated with the Karens.

@@amazingkris Then those men have a very wrong idea about what feminism is.

It’s steve that needs to apologise🦊

Agreed. I feel bad for all the good Karens out there. The good Karens should be spelled Carin'. Maybe go by Caring. Or Carrie. or Karestan. or your middle name. Apparently the name has gotten less and less popular for new babies because of the meme.

God bless every woman named Karen. Every woman whose loving parents gave her that name, and taught her to be a good person. Every woman named Karen who is decent, caring, kind and charitable. God bless them as they cringe, every time they hear their name used this way. Every time they lower their voice when someone asks their name. When they give fake names in restaurants and wherever their name will be called out loud. Remind them they are not the meme. Lift them up when customer service reps who can’t see their smiling faces over the phone, automatically speak to them with disgust, and every time someone reads their name off a list and snickers. God help them to forgive the heartless people who use their name to describe the rudest women in the country, who are almost never actually named “Karen;” the word for “lovely” in the Japanese language, and a variant of “Katherine,” the patron saint of racial justice, philanthropists and nurses. Amen

Wonder what Karen carpenter would think today if she hadnt died from anorexia.Guess it was all the mean "karens"that made her feel fat even though she wasnt

She took me to taco bell when no one else would 😔

I know, she has ESPN or something, and she can fit her entire fist in her mouth! ✊😂

I WON'T STAND FOR THIS. I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MANAGER. Karen Smith is our bubbly baby, she won't have the mental capacity to be mad at a store employee. She'll just go home, throw out the shopping bag and its contents, and call all her friends to whine whine whine all night.

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Ikrr Karen is definitely not a Karen why they gotta do her like thag

Ikr💀💀

They have to keep up with the times lol

Man you be looking like a Hershey bar

@@meowchinchilla4009 thank you? lmao

Something I noticed too

Makes me think about the grumpy old white guy trope ngl

@Emperor omg, after 11minutes, when he said 'overweight woman'

Misbehavior by one gender does excuse misbehavior from the other. When men did this there are just assholes/jerks they don’t get a special name.

I don't buy this at all. There's no racism involved in this term. It's because of her behavior not because she's WW. This isn't a racist term. That's a intellectually dishonest statement. It's also been used much more broadly to describe women as a whole who have these attributes

Well the subset of Drunk Classy Bitchy Karen's are loved, Lucile Bluth and Karen Walker have fans

@@christianwehner5565 Didn't we used to have drag queens for that?

@@neuralmute Doesn't mean we can't have both

((((((

I'll probably have to change my name now...

Lol. Yeah we've all met Karens at some point

Some Karens play the víctim and weaponize their tears especially against men. This alsó deserves to be called out if we want to do better as a society.

There’s no reason to be ashamed of being female…. Karen behaviour is far from what we’d call feminine.

This woman had only recently gotten the dog from a local rescue group, who subsequently took the dog back from her.

Whenever I watch that, I feel myself gasping for breath the entire time. Such a vile individual.

Who cares about the black guy she was trying to have falsely arrested.

@@shayhill568 The guy was a creep. No-one normal calls someone else's dog over and says she won't like what he's about to do. Apparently he tried it on with a black guy the week before and almost got beaten up.

@@riandraegon556 GOOD

Yeah, while Cersei doesn't care about other women, she is at least willing to do something about her unhappiness by killing everyone else who is on top

Yeah neither is Umbridge lol. It's preeetty fucking misogynistic to be labeling just any female villain a Karen. These are both characters who are genuinely evil and cruel and have REAL power, not "I'm a victim" power, not "let me talk to your manager" power. Cersei is WAAAY worse to call a Karen. Karens don't blow up churches. Karens don't have people murdered. She doesn't NEED to speak to anyone's manager. She IS the manager. She can't help but punch down because - in one way or another - almost everyone is "down" to her and, if they aren't, she finds a way to make them get under her. They even say a Karen is defined by a sense of personal impotence which Cersei very very very very very much does not have. She can afford to take out her temper on *anyone*. She's also generally pretty collected, exactly because she knows she has power. And Umbridge is shaping the place that almost every person in their world gets their education to her twisted view of things. Like carving a sick message into a child's hand as a punishment again and again? Yeah, that's not "let me speak to your manager" energy. Kicking out (or causing them to flee in one way or another) her superiors and competitors? Not "let me speak to your manager" energy. Not "triple quadruple latte with espresso but hold the caffeine from the coffee and only add caffeine extracted from tea" energy.

@@rrilal6990 Cersei blew up the church because they imprisoned her, publicly shamed her and made her feel powerless. She also hated that she was married off to Baratheon and had to deal with him and his male counterparts. That's why she lashed out by getting rid of them all.

yeah I don't think she has prejudices like a karen does. she just does things for herself

@@rrilal6990 Neither Cersei nor Umbridge are even close to being Karens.

You might need to watch the video again. The difference between a karen versus other difficult people you see in customer service is her white privilege.

@@ms.bubs4fun506 Yeah go to Mexico and tell me about white privilege.

Yes I am blk and sometimes I am a Karen the customer is always right🤣😂

True, anyone can be demanding and rude and they can be guys also.

@@MissBloopTartVT If you’re talking about ethnicity. Does that mean you ask everyone to run into what race they are and base your opinions of them on that and not their personality? Im not seeing your point.

Male "karens" are called "Chads"

I always thought of male Karen’s as “Darrens” sixteenleo had a really funny video about then you should check it out

There isn't a male equivalent because male equivalents just generally get called "asshole/doucebag/ pos" instead. I guess we should do that with women for the sake of fairness since "Karen" is so sexist.

@@Ray03595 Kevin, Ken, Chad are male Karen named equivalents

I thought they were called Kyle's.

Yea there are just as many male ‘karens’ out there to be realistic. I think we can call them Karen’s too :). But it makes me worry when I get older I may not ever be able to stick up for myself without being labeled a Karen type. I hardly stick up for myself now because I’m so socially awkward. But in 10 years I hope I’ll be even more self assured.

Is this like an extension of Godwin's Law?

@@ericdaniel323 More the idea that sooner or later, the Internet has a way of taking complex issues and diluting them down to the point of meaningless, whether in the name of memes, social media posts or just human nature in general.

@@stevenguitink5947 I was joking, but that actually sounds about the same. Godwin's Law says that every thread will eventually lead to Hitler, which often means someone is being inappropriately compared to the Nazis. The internet can be annoying.

@@ericdaniel323 True. Also, my bad. So used to people taking comments on the Net at face value. Also know what Godwin's Law is too ;)

@@stevenguitink5947 people just need to mind their own business

When I was working at sunglasses, a woman complained that her sunglasses smudged easily. She rubbed her fingerprints all over the lenses and demanded a new pair. I demonstrated the proper way to clean them, at which point she started licking the lenses. My manager had the good sense to give her a new pair to send her away. Karens have this... disconnect with reality.

If I do get a job at a store I want a job that's in the back that doesn't involve speaking to the customers cuz I might talk to a Karen I don't think my heart and my lack of empathy could take it

I was a cashier at this store and this white woman came in talking on her phone. She was on her phone the whole time while in the store. She brought a couple of things and I gave her the change and receipt and told her to have a nice day. So a couple of minutes later she came back and accused me of shorting her five cent. 😂 She asked for my manager and explained to her that I purposefully shorted her change. She threatened to call the district manager and get me fired. Long story short, another customer suggested that she might have dropped it. We found the nickel under her car. 🙄

That right there is the problem. Stop placating the Karens. Their bullying and racism is too often rewarded so there is no incentive to stop the demonic behavior. Stop Giving Them What They Want! We need to start calling the police on them every single time they do crap like this.

@TatzRules Yay right!

What could be as catchy and as memorable as “male Karen”? Nothing would take nearly as well.

@@BlackCover95 let's brainstorm together. How about Kevin?

@@BlackCover95 or we could just call them Karen too😂😂😂😂

Ken.

@@Iquey niceeee I like ken.

Finally someone said it lol. I feel like those who call her a Karen need to watch the show again or they just easily call every single female antagonist a Karen without thinking it through....

@@insertnamehere4491 Glad I'm not the only one who sees that!

Cersei is too complex to truly label her a Karen, but I do agree the prophecy impacts a sense of powerlessness in her and she does like to exercise her power as much as possible on those weaker than her, but never can at either her father or Robert B. By that definition, she could be a Karen.

If anyone in GOT is a Karen its Lysa Tully. Got the perfect spoilt karen kid aswell

@@TheDuffcat spot on, Cersei is not the typical Karen, Lysa is.

Well blame the Karen’s for that🤷🏽‍♀️

This is what happens when stupid people are allowed to lead social trends. It's also a fantastic way for mean to say b**ch without actually saying that word and no one says anything about it.

YES. That’s so empowering and it feels like heaven on earth 😍 I love when they are told “no ma’m” 👌🏽

i think people who get satisfaction from using their little job position are lowminded and weak. always talk shit from behind the counter, but always respectable and ass kissey in person away from that counter. "hi white lady. can my people get free stuff from yours?" hahahaaa

What about in general tho?

YES

I second this! What'd I'd really like to see is them covering the depiction of Native Americans as being all spiritual and at one with nature, or something to that effect.

Yes!!

@@mandypandy111ify yes! And using non natives to depict us and having a white man/woman come in and be best most sacred native 😅 dances with wolves, last of the mohicans, thunder heart, etc.....and what story telling by indigenous people really looks like movies like dreamkeepers, dance me outside, smoke signals and even docs like canaries in the coal mine and even the horror genre uses native cultures (Indian burial grounds, ceremonies etc) but we have a place on horror with movies like blood quantum and each tribes unique cultures there is so much to be said yet we are consistently overlooked in every aspect

Agree

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@Skynet1 Nah, just a lack of white narcissism.

Curio did a video of how Geralt from the Witcher miniseries (but not the book or video game) fit this trope. Wilson Kirsch from the Carmilla vlog definitely fits. The world needs more wholesome masculinity (and hopefully not as a cover-up for predatory or harmful masculinity disguised by "but I didn't know better, how could I when I'm a dudebro.")

Himbo?

I’m going to watch the video now

@@kimberleywilliams7802 A himbo is considered the male equivalent of a bimbo. They are seen as not very bright, but incredibly kind, outgoing, respectful, and is very athletic. Think a jock, but he drank his respect everyone juice. Theyre are often seen, at the gym, or some sports related area, and social events with people as they are often extroverted. Himbo are often in real life and media seen helping and defending people. (I.e. he is that one bloke at the party teeling the sleazy dudes to back of from the girls since they're not interested and is often trusted with a person's drink). They have no toxic masculinity and while usuall very masculine will go out thier way to be femine to support other if needed or if they want to.

Neighbours the soap is full of himbos including the father and son himbos as the father had the son at an early age.

Better Karen than "Tania" or "Wania".

Kares are all over the world, I´m pretty sure there are Karens in Russia maybe "Tatyanas"?

The thing is not the entitlement itself, the thing is they are sandwiched between two parties, but choose to keep to their own despite knowing how it feels. Instead of looking inside and admid their actual powerlessness. It is what makes it so sad.

Idk, I think there is a difference in tone. When I worked in customer service (and I am a white woman) men could be unreasonable assholes, but it's like they were at least somewhat aware that if they crossed certain lines they could come across as threatening. Male customers almost never tried to touch me, for instance. But some white women didn't seem to think boundaries applied to them. Once a women came up behind me while I was stocking a shelf and ran her fingers through my hair, before telling me she liked my haircut. Scared me half to death, to just suddenly have mystery hands in my hair.... but she just laughed it off. Men never tried shit like that, probably because they would expect to get kicked out of the store for harassment.

@@chris7263 Hm. Americans always seem so very aware about their personal space. Touching is like crime. In other countries this is not like this, it depend of course where, but even here in the Netherlands we only would find woman on woman touch strange, but not like boundary braking hysterical.

We call the men "Kevins".

@@isabellalynnwood6486 That sounds more Chavvy.

A more accurate Harry Potter Karen would be Rita Skeeter... or JK rowling

Karen's are evil.

I don't think that disqualifies her.

Petunia Dursley is Harry Potter's Karen, of course!

How are Karens not evil lol

Yeah that is Becky.

ALL communities have them....believe it or not Ive met several women named Karen that were great people....this is not a very intelligent movement

@@mistyphilippe1575 Its not a movements. More a meme to label those that are unbelievably entitled, and by now it has been expanded to about anyone. I do agree some use it for any situation or person they don't like regardless of the reason one person is having a breakdown.

@@mistyphilippe1575 one of the reasons they’re called “Karen’s” is because Karen was one of the most popular names when baby boomers were born. And the baby boomer generation happens to have a lot of entitled people. So a lot of the white, Middle Aged white women when the meme was made were named Karen.

Not every Karen is a Karen, and not all Karens are named Karen. Everyone knows this

She isn't a Karen, she is a sociopath, Karen's a just White narcissistic woman.

imelda staunton is a legend for being able to play that character flawlessly

@@hulamames8650 but then you look at Imelda Stauton's earlier role in _Freedom Writers_ movie, and the similarities are too real...

LOL... same... Pink had always been my favorite color. She RUINED THE ENTIRE COLOR for me!

@@yakinyamaddi That is exactly true. As the old adage goes, "if you hate them, you know they're a good actor".

Becky->Karen->Susan The lifecycle of those who live this sad existence.

@@Ray03595 is Susan the older one?

@@oooh19 Yes lol

@@Ray03595 And just like pokéman they evolve.

Becky is a broad name for all white women usually young ones.

It was good.

Nah. Doesnt sound right

>Just like so many words, it’s become meaningless. Nope, it's become actively sexist.

Well, actually, no she isn’t and no it isn’t. Unless you run with a really, really dumb group of people.

@@chuckm1961 unfortunately there are a lot of really, really dumb people on the internet lol

@Eamonn Wright I don’t see evidence of that. Saying those words does not make it true.

@@chuckm1961 Nope, it's already happening. That's why so many women in the comments are talking about "keeping the term pure" and "it's getting overused", they're the same people who in the past looked at a 5 second clip and deemed other women Karens in the first place.

I have to say though: Umbridge aint a Karen in the Books. The ‚Stickler for Rules’ was added in the Films. They changed a lot.

YES!

I didn't realise how similar to Cersei she looks

Ikr