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How to TEST your N54 Injectors AT HOME (Leaking Injector Symptoms!)

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Күн бұрын

Today, we're looking at my friend's 335i and testing the old injectors to see which ones have failed. Since I bought this car (and then sold it to my buddy) it has had the following symptoms:
- poor mpg
- long crank before starting
- misfire on cold or warm start
- slight misfire at redlights
- black smoke under acceleration (rich condition)
The theory was that the injectors were stuck partially open at all times, so when he turned off the engine, the leftover fuel in the high pressure rail would leak into the cylinder and thus deplete the pressure for the next engine start. It would also mean that the injectors leaking fuel would be running richer than the others. So to test the injectors, we hooked them up to the rail, forced them to stay closed, but then pressurized the rail by cranking the motor. You'll see how easy it is to spot the bad injectors...
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@fastboatster
@fastboatster 2 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant, way better than some cleaning services which test the injectors at low pressures.
@Nico_335i_DCT
@Nico_335i_DCT 2 жыл бұрын
Well Chris. 6 months ago I purchased 6 index 9 remanufactured injectors. I got a 60k km warranty. Everything was okay. But a few weeks ago the car had a rough colt start again. I checked the injectors and nr3,4 and 5 are leaking. I was warned not to buy remanufactured injectors but I didn't have the money for index 12 ones, back then. The remanufactured injectors were €700. Now I'm saving money again for 6 index 12 new BMW injectors. But the prices went sky high lately. They're now € 2450,- ( $2620) at the dealership. Absolutely insane! Dutch regards, Nico.
@seppmeier9961
@seppmeier9961 2 жыл бұрын
if even available. The usual German bmw webshops dont have them (baum & leebmann bmw)
@Nico_335i_DCT
@Nico_335i_DCT 2 жыл бұрын
@@seppmeier9961 I know. I can buy only 1 at the dealership, at the moment🤯.
@TheBimmerBarn
@TheBimmerBarn 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah my friend almost bought a set of those "remanufactured" ones as well, not sure what the results would have been. Once they get stuck open and start leaking, there's no way of refurbishing them.
@manifesto7877
@manifesto7877 Жыл бұрын
It's completely outrageous how much the injectors cost now. Im hoping fixing supply chain issues will alleviate the issue!
@N54BrelatoMidwest
@N54BrelatoMidwest 10 ай бұрын
I've watched this like 7 times this past week prepping for me to to it today 😂 only thing is I'm testing my newly used injectors with bank 2 hard lines so I don't have to pull my 3 injectors that never misfire out of the car, only because I only ordered 3 decoupler and Teflon seals
@bosanovaboy
@bosanovaboy 11 ай бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you! For months I've been trying to figure out why I have a difficult time starting my Hyundai Tiburon after I have driven it and it's been off for over an hour. I saw your video last night and did the same test this morning. I found out my injector #4 was dripping gas. Thank you very much
@pugs1377
@pugs1377 2 жыл бұрын
That's the only way to test em and be sure. When I first got my 335 I checked the injectors. 4 wer spraying and 2 dripped. Cold start was fine but a hot start took a while and was a bit rough. $1400 later and the new injectors were in and she was running great. I hope the injectors on my n63tu last more than 100k
@jcdragon77
@jcdragon77 Жыл бұрын
Great Work mate. Ultrasonic cleaning might help extend the life of your old injectors and new o rings + filters if they have them.
@michealrucker2959
@michealrucker2959 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm having a misfire on Injector 6 and suspect it is leaking. This video is good info. I never thought to check mine like this. Thanks!!
@wrenchingvids
@wrenchingvids Ай бұрын
This is great!!!! I’m having a super light misfire at idle. I need to do this
@pdef1949
@pdef1949 9 ай бұрын
It would be nice to see how you coded the new injectors
@rafaelsouzapedrosa
@rafaelsouzapedrosa 26 күн бұрын
using OBD2 scanner but one that does that coding
@derekkchung
@derekkchung Жыл бұрын
I would test the index 12s too. I would also extend one injector wiring to reach each "new" index 12 injector to see if they are open and their injection patterns. Never trust ebay and there are FAKE index 12 out there and when I did what u did last year, I could not even program the compensation number into DME and 3 out of 6 index 12 I bought have the same compensation number.
@LadislavSipos-xk4cs
@LadislavSipos-xk4cs Жыл бұрын
good day, this is enough to test the sprayer, thanks for the answer
@mdushaka6403
@mdushaka6403 Жыл бұрын
You a professional brother, l give you double thumbs-up
@TheBimmerBarn
@TheBimmerBarn Жыл бұрын
Thank you, much love!
@shoulda_beena_cowboy
@shoulda_beena_cowboy 4 ай бұрын
Hey couldnt you just unplug injectors and coils and turn the engine over then pull plugs to see which is wet? That way you dont have to remove the injectors
@Zodiam.
@Zodiam. 3 ай бұрын
Do the injectors generally fail in any other way then leaking? My cyl 6 injector is leaking for sure as the plug is soaked in fuel after just a couple hrs. As i want to go for DI delete when Nexsys works out the kinks i dont want to buy all 6 new Index 12s, so figured i would buy a couple used ones for spare, flip my existing ones and test them along with the "new" used ones, and just switch the ones that leak. Is there any point in bringing them somewhere to get them flow/spray pattern tested or is it just the leaking to be worried about?
@Zodiam.
@Zodiam. 3 ай бұрын
Answering myself. They do Gail in other ways. I tried 2x used injectors and they didn't leak but caused heavy misfiring instead... I gave up and bought new instead.
@CarlosHernandez-py8ds
@CarlosHernandez-py8ds 10 ай бұрын
What u should of done is showed the new injectors see if any of them leaked BS
@rafaelsouzapedrosa
@rafaelsouzapedrosa 26 күн бұрын
Isn't this dangerous for the cylinders as they will all fail with the injectors out?
@amaralkhalidy2553
@amaralkhalidy2553 9 ай бұрын
Great video solved my problem with mixture/lean codes. All 6 injectors were leaking for my case giving code 0029e0. Thank you!
@jlindborg1105
@jlindborg1105 Жыл бұрын
Good testing method. You should though have tested the “new” ones the same way to actually KNOW if they had the same problem or not.
@n54enthuziast66
@n54enthuziast66 9 ай бұрын
Should I disconect EKP module and crank it to lose the rail pressure ? How long was it sitting before you disconected the rail lines from injectors? I want to avoid fuel all over the engine bay
@246alfa
@246alfa 11 ай бұрын
On the bench to check under different modes. sometimes the injector starts to drip after the tests.
@crosstalktv5780
@crosstalktv5780 9 ай бұрын
I just pulled out one injector just to look at it. I replaced my valve cover gasket a few months ago but when I took the injector out it was covered in oil. Does that mean it was just old oil?
@TheBimmerBarn
@TheBimmerBarn 9 ай бұрын
Yeah old oil, there's no good way to clean up the valley down there where oil collects and takes forever to burn off.
@TheZayGS
@TheZayGS 10 ай бұрын
Test the new index 12’s. I have a set with less than 10000km on them & they leaked enough to spin a bearing.
@alpanosap
@alpanosap Жыл бұрын
Thank you guys, it's very helpful video and it just gave me an idea how to test my car injectors.
@TheBimmerBarn
@TheBimmerBarn Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@JoseSandoval-ic5xe
@JoseSandoval-ic5xe 3 ай бұрын
Hi by any chance was his car running lean for ltft, misfires and surging when in park that would get better by stepping on the gas??
@cpttoxic2969
@cpttoxic2969 3 ай бұрын
Did you have to code the new injectors? I keep getting mixed responses
@dokterkarel
@dokterkarel Жыл бұрын
very good test!
@AbdulHaq11901
@AbdulHaq11901 9 ай бұрын
So only need to remove electrical connector to injectors and disconnect coil pack connectors? Thanks.
@maciejlisowski3044
@maciejlisowski3044 Жыл бұрын
Do you install new decouplers and teflon seals each time injector is taken out of the engine? :)
@TheBimmerBarn
@TheBimmerBarn Жыл бұрын
👀 😅
@tashinorbu9262
@tashinorbu9262 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys I need help with inpa. I have replaced my msd80 dme with msd81 and was wondering if I should be ok to choose n54 msd80 option on inpa to calibrate my injectors.
@AliAZEEMI-ey9ns
@AliAZEEMI-ey9ns 6 ай бұрын
Help! So my car is completely fine on idle. Never skips a beat. But upon pushing the throttle a bit it will misfire. It’s fine on low rpms but high rpms. It will throw a cylinder 1 misfire and start to stumble. Would this be the injector?
@NotMoby24
@NotMoby24 3 ай бұрын
What do you mean by "Adaptation reset" ?
@user-jm3gx8gr5n
@user-jm3gx8gr5n Жыл бұрын
e60 535i has no throttle and idels up and down..but mine was not the fuse like in one of your vids .. plz help. new gas peddle , new throttle body. no water in DME ever.
@andrewberner3738
@andrewberner3738 Жыл бұрын
@thebimmerbarn Hey man, what adaptations did you reset after installing the Index 12s? I've only been directed to, and subsequently did, reset both lamda ones. Should I have done more?
@konchittavong697
@konchittavong697 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@coolwicia
@coolwicia Жыл бұрын
I understand correctly, after such a connection, nothing can drip? even if i turn the engine
@alquehenwebb7349
@alquehenwebb7349 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for your video
@TheBimmerBarn
@TheBimmerBarn 10 ай бұрын
Hope it helped! Thanks for the nice comment :)
@luispina317
@luispina317 5 ай бұрын
If one is leaking how do you fix it?
@go4ittt837
@go4ittt837 Жыл бұрын
I have N53 and done the test 4 injectors were leaking, I put new ones and it gets worse now ( 4 injectors was used but I tested them as you did) don't know what to do next:-)!
@amirholmes-qi4fd
@amirholmes-qi4fd Жыл бұрын
I did this but my motor never cranked and made an ugly sound. Did I miss somethingv
@xEnciGamerxenci
@xEnciGamerxenci Жыл бұрын
So when i change the injectors can what i do mext i dont understand the part with the laptop
@1991june
@1991june Жыл бұрын
Im having an issue when i start getting on accelerator at around 3 to 4 rpm the car feels like it jerks n looses power it only does it sometimes .
@gavinchen7884
@gavinchen7884 Жыл бұрын
Hello sir, I also encountered the same situation, is there any fault code? Does the tachometer pointer drop first and then rise after the engine is cold started? car shaking
@MegaMaximusthegreat
@MegaMaximusthegreat 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video! Where can I get a car like this?
@fano4044
@fano4044 Жыл бұрын
I did same test as you.. but i have N53 engine.. none of the injector made a single leak, i changed all plugs and coils.. but there are still symptoms like rough idle, shaking, vibrating on cold start, check engine.. i dont know what to do
@TheBimmerBarn
@TheBimmerBarn Жыл бұрын
Read the fault codes, and that should help you pinpoint the problem. Sounds like it could be fuel related! Good luck
@N54BrelatoMidwest
@N54BrelatoMidwest 10 ай бұрын
Check if the injector is loose if so add a new decoupler and o ring compressed
@wyattturner9976
@wyattturner9976 Жыл бұрын
does it require a new battery program or can you just reconnect and start up?
@TheBimmerBarn
@TheBimmerBarn Жыл бұрын
No battery reprogram needed, unless you replaced it!
@user-vi7qy2qp5y
@user-vi7qy2qp5y 6 ай бұрын
Do have to code them?
@boyb72
@boyb72 Жыл бұрын
Will the injector get damaged if i clean it with a scuff pad with brake cleaner on the tip?
@johnjones607
@johnjones607 Жыл бұрын
yup
@AlexCapi
@AlexCapi 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know exactly which adaptations were reset? 6:15. Thanks.
@TheBimmerBarn
@TheBimmerBarn 2 жыл бұрын
Used INPA and reset all adaptations on the second page, in the DME.
@samah713
@samah713 Жыл бұрын
Would this cause oil to smell like fuel?
@TheBimmerBarn
@TheBimmerBarn Жыл бұрын
Yeah, could be causing the car to run rich.
@samah713
@samah713 Жыл бұрын
@@TheBimmerBarn i just did the test and none of my injectors leaked at all....im still getting gas in the oil though. Could this be a bad seal on the hpfp? Also did a compression test on the engine and it checks out fine.
@TheBimmerBarn
@TheBimmerBarn Жыл бұрын
@@samah713 that's the only other place I can think off, or the car could be running too rich, which could be caused by bad oxygen sensors. Good luck!
@Garik.e60
@Garik.e60 11 ай бұрын
Your HPFP could be going bad too. There's a seal that when failed causes fuel to get in the oil.
@cristianfigueroa8828
@cristianfigueroa8828 Жыл бұрын
Where can I buy the bmw inpa program ?
@uschifickstuck3418
@uschifickstuck3418 Жыл бұрын
What Adaption have you reset ? (Name the Adaption?) THX
@TheBimmerBarn
@TheBimmerBarn Жыл бұрын
All of the DME adaptations
@starcraft321able
@starcraft321able Жыл бұрын
can you do this for non coded injectors? just to test if theyre leaking.
@TheBimmerBarn
@TheBimmerBarn Жыл бұрын
Yeah! It'll work just the same.
@starcraft321able
@starcraft321able Жыл бұрын
@@TheBimmerBarn sweet thanks for the video! Finally getting around to replacing my injectors with used index 8’s after finding out 4 of them are leaking. Fingers crossed at least 4 of the used ones I bought are good 👍
@javiermontes2790
@javiermontes2790 Жыл бұрын
Did you takeout spark plugs?
@TheBimmerBarn
@TheBimmerBarn Жыл бұрын
No reason to, just unplug the ignition coils!
@nooraneemahamoodally6382
@nooraneemahamoodally6382 Жыл бұрын
What happens if you don't code those?
@akdsjgalksdfjg
@akdsjgalksdfjg 7 ай бұрын
wont run right
@zafar78600
@zafar78600 7 ай бұрын
so the spark plug replacement etc; were unnecessary repairs.
@akdsjgalksdfjg
@akdsjgalksdfjg 7 ай бұрын
never a bad idea to replace sparkplugs, they are wear parts after all
@aarzy888
@aarzy888 2 жыл бұрын
Low pressure fuel sencer.
@ChadFreeman757
@ChadFreeman757 11 ай бұрын
I got 30BB I wish KZfaq didn’t get rid of messages 😢
@Cdswjp
@Cdswjp 2 жыл бұрын
nice
@markd2768
@markd2768 Жыл бұрын
You didn’t bleed the lines after you removed the hard lines. How do you know there was pressurized fuel to the car injector. You don’t there full of air.
@Thomas998822
@Thomas998822 Жыл бұрын
If there leaking, the air will be pushed out first, followed by the gas. Common sense
@chrisr4815
@chrisr4815 Жыл бұрын
*They're
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