You saying this is too expensive while saying your Rolex Explorer is perfect, is definitely a contradiction. These will be available for 10% from seiko or probably 20% off from AD’s. To me this watch is worth a 1000, with all its features.

Comparing SPB409 to a Rolex Explorer II is unjust. There’s nothing wrong with Caller GMT, it functions as good as Traveller GMT when you’re travelling around the world. Why pay exorbitant sum of money for a Rolex GMT when you can get a cheaper one with SPB409?

Im wearing one, just got it an hr ago. This thing delivers 🎉

Absolutely agree...not sure why Seiko still not releasing true gmt at this price range. As for price...just with all seiko, wait a while after release and they will be dropping in prices like flies. Normally with Seiko you can get 20 to 30% off msrp from AD. Never buy from their boutique, they just rip you off with retail prices.

It looks amazing but the price is just ridiculous.

I'm a little confused. Someone correct me. Isn't a "true" GMT like an original GMT Master before the "2"? Ie hour hand and GMT hand are locked in sync and you just use the bezel to track the second time zone. I think the modern Chopard LUC GMT is the same. Would that distinguish a "traveller" movement from a "true"? Or have I got this wrong?

Saying that this is basically 200 much but saying that a 10k plus watch is worth is contradicting.

I would love to get a case with internal bezel, and build my own with an NH34 inside.

I agree Jory! All the Seiko references I like now in terms of newer releases (SPB363 Akibono Sharp Edge, Masked Rider Seiko 5, SLA071 Seiko Landmaster) are limited editions. They are trying so hard to get people to buy due to FOMO (fear of missing out). Their prices are also continually pushing up, so the value proposition is not there anymore for many of their models. Many good GMT models from swiss brands now in this price range. Mainly from Christopher Ward and MIDO (The Ocean Star GMT is very competitive here). If you save up, the Longines Zulu Time is a beautifully finished watch that is also a truge GMT. I like the looks of this alpinist, white dial, blue hands, it just looks so good! Then I see the price at dealers and then walk away. I want to get more people into watches, but other than the lower end, they are hard to recommend if you are spending this kind of money.

I'm in Japan and WAS looking to purchase this piece at just over a thousand,but, you've convinced me to look at either the Longines hydro or maybe even a Ball railroad Marvelight II. Tool watches as they go. Am I getting better value?

I just picked up a Vario Empire GMT. It uses the Miyota 9075 traveler GMT movement for 600usd. It's a completely different type of watch and completely different style, but just something to compare to a watch costing 2x. How much more would it have cost Seiko to put a 6r64 in it. Seiko is playing up-market but their market competition is doing it better. Microbrands are offering similar for 1/2 the cost.

Hi. Nice video like always Few points 1)Despite your rant, the marketing works. As you said it is selling out. 2)With miyota 9075, you can get true gmt for less than 1k usd 3)one got to enjoy the current collection. Yes, May add a new watch but no need to hurry. Tomorrow some newer alpinist gmts are going to get out.....

But of course it's a limited edition... I actually considered it a few weeks back but I just can't bring myself to get it. It's too expensive for what it is, buying it sends signal to Seiko to keep this god awful practice of price inflation + limited edition releases and, frankly, I have way too many diver-esque watches in my collection. So, I'll admire it from afar...

So...better to look towards CW Sealander, Bulova Wilton and Glycine Airmen for well priced GMT?

Hopefully for the price this watch doesn’t suffer from alignment issues like some other Seiko models like the misaligned bezel on the Willard.

Well, I think models SPB377/9 (which are not limited editions) are even more beautiful, and the old Seiko Alpinist Strapcode bracelets fit these as well). The only point of contention is price. For me, I wouldn’t buy a black or a blue alpinist for $1150, but a green one … I don’t know, maybe. Let’s see.

As a seiko collector I can say I have many alpinest and the true best is 017 and yes I have many from this watch collection don’t want to brag but seiko have lost the way and just keep looking cuz the older the better and I do collect seiko trust me it’s over

So fully agree. And by the way in weeks time they will have unlimited similar in 4 other colors

This watch is gorgeous. I just can't wrap my head around that price tag

This is a stunning watch with amazing specs. Wish i had a spare 2200 aud

I know you’re not immediately involved with them anymore, but Orient all the way. Super happy with what they crank out into the space Seiko moved away (raised its prices) from. I wouldn’t be surprised if Orient gives us some super premium stuff in the $500-$1000 range within the coming years. I’d love to have this Alpinist but I’m not paying $1300 for this - ESPECIALLY with a 4:30 date window.

When they're gone the price tag will seem cheap if the prices drive upwards. I like it and that says a lot about it because I haven't owned or wanted any Seiko/Grand Seiko in over 40 years!

Debate which you prefer, but for me, "TRUE" GMT would have to relate to the original GMT wrist watch, the Glycine Airman. On that, the hour hand can not be independently set. The traveler will *tend* to cost more because the date has to be able to go forwards and backwards.

Nothing will replace the beauty of my Sarb 017. Fine review Jory. Thanks!

Limited addition adds no value to the product, but increases price. It’s everything that’s gone wrong with Seiko.

I’m not buying anymore seikos until prices return to some semblance of normal.

Looks nice, agree on price on a caller GMF being high once you get over $800

They have numerous limited models. Also, the Seiko 5 are under 1000

Price tag so big you literally drop the f bomb in the video.

Can you then tell us what other GMT watches that comes from a recognisable brand as Seiko (not microbarnds) that offer the same type of caller GMT within the same price point?

What happened to the brief music after "let's get down to business"?

Love your quasi "Rant" uploads !

More than the price that Seiko charges is there continued lack of QC out of ailment chapter rings and bezels ran me off years ago! However I bought the spb379 used for 690.00 nice watch I perfer to my explorer.

Good video. Nice watch. I’m enjoying mine😊

Another T3 masterpiece. Well done my friend.

Nice review! I understand your complaints, but I will always love Seiko. I am reluctant to buy watches with fixed bezel (as the Explorer or Alpinist you show) due to the painted black numerals on the steel bezel. I am worried they fade away with use. Indeed, this seems the problem also for the Rolex you show. What a pity. Is there a solution to the fading of the black paint?

I love mine, but with the caveat I was able to crowd fund it as a graduation gift. I love it and the pictures do not do it justice.

I dunno--they seem to have plenty of cool and affordable watches in the mix. The Seiko 5 GMTs are pretty great and you can get them for $350 brand new without even haggling. The solar speed timers are also a lot of fun, and, of course, their endless supply of divers. There are also so many cool things buried in the Seiko 5 line and while their reliance on limited editions is pretty tiring, they do such large runs most of the time that you can still find them easily and at a discount.

I'd pick the green version over this white 'limited' edition any day. The dial has 3 shades of white - rehaut, dial and date window are all different. This is less pronounced on darker color version such as the blue or green versions. Also there is just not enough contrast between the white dial and grey stainless steel bezel and applied indicies - the green version stands out much better.

It's a nice watch and the date window is nicely placed. No need to puke over it unless you've eaten bad chicken. 😂

this retails for $2,200 AUD (Australian Dollars) - which is in the realm of a Longines. I could even get an Oris for that money if i shop around. - so no - i am not spending that kind of money on a Seiko

I bought the green dial variant from Japan. It's less expensive and better looking imo

This is a nice Alpinist. As a limited edition, I think it just-barely justifies it's price tag. Then, too, I won't be jettisoning my SARB 017 for one, and it sounds like you won't be giving yours the heave-ho either.

A bit too expensive but I still bought one...the blue dial 377. Loving it!

The numbers on the bezel is n a crazy angle

Mine just arrive, such a beautiful watch

Good video, my thoughts exactly. I have been contemplating an Alpinist for a couple yrs now and I think I like this one the best, but IDT it's worth the price. ☹️

I wish they make an alpinist with a aqua terra style tapered lugs!

If not for inscriptions on a bezel, I'd rather buy it. So I took brown dial spb209 instead.

What is the “peoples champ” Price range??

A hodge podge of styles. No match for the Sarb017. Not to mention I bought the Sarb033, Sarb035 and the Sarb017 together from new for less than this rather limited Seiko offering.

"It ain't trickin if you got it" and "F*ck you pay me" - Seiko

Gorgeous piece. 😍 Price 😵‍💫🤢 I'll just wait for one of the smaller brands to make an homage should I decide to get one.🤔

Seiko makes two models of “true” GMTs that are white in their presage line and are the same price of this Alpinist… one is even Titanium.

You’re right about the seiko, but keep the Rx out of this 🙌

Well, I like my Sumo GMT. It's true GMT but . . . quartz 🤐. I hope you consider it. Great video as always

I really like this design, including the 430 date window, and it definitely is a quality watch! But this is a $600 watch even with bidenomics, not a $1200 watch.

That’s one of the nicest looking watches I’ll never own.

It's hard to say they set the wrong price when they are selling out.

They can't even get a chapter ring aligned properly but they want to be considered "premium"...smdh

It's an awesome watch but the price tag is out of order. I am a true seiko fanboi. I rarely wear anything but seiko but dang...the price tags are getting out of control. When the new orient mako is less than some seiko 5s and it is spec'd out in comparison, we've got issues. The world might be coming to an end soon and the predictor for me is the price tag of this alpinist. Hashem save us all.

They're not all over 1000. My rock face alpinist was only 650. Best buy eva. ❤ Seiko

Did they sign the crown like my $379.00 Sarb 017. As for “true” GMT: Zelos running the 9075 …most expensive Zelos offered was $629.00 with the meteorite blue dial…..the one I just bought. I love this watch but……. Thanks Jory

I saw this Watch today the first Time in a Window of a Shop. First Impression was wow, nice One. Clear Dial & Colors match great. Second Impression with the Price was not so good. I think €900,- was a good Price. But over €1000,- is a little bit to much 🤔

Bumping up the price of watches with an amended 6R movement, two or three times, the price of the original Sarb models. That took the gleam off Seiko for me.

seiko has killed my love for collecting watches.. if I see a seiko I like 9/10 times its a limited edition.. so why bother. I havent bought a watch in a year and a half now and im good with that lol.

Hmm prefer a non GMT and cheaper prices. Looks amazing though

“Why the F did I just spend that much money on a Seiko” lmfaooo

spb089 was the perfect alpinist

Really nice watch! I am personally not happy with prices going up on all watches, just look at a Speedy Moonwatch or just your own Explorer 2. That watch easily doubled in price in the last 5 years. To say that your Rolex is 6 or 7 times more expensive but at least you get a true GMT is a bit much no? If you look at this Seiko and your Rolex as a “non-WatchNerd” then most people would prefer to spend the less money and get the Seiko as it’s obviously not that much worse + a true GMT is hardly worth the 7K price premium 😅

I never buy seiko at full price, if I can’t get 20% off I won’t buy it, I think there real value sits at around 25% off sticker price

Just had a horrible realisation: except my Sea Urchin (which let's face it was quite a long time ago now), every single one of my current Seikos is an LE. I am looking at this one because I genuinely agree with all the praise you just gave it. And I'm looking at the SPB119, which lacks the GMT and is literally half the price and honestly the cream face is what got me into this mess. But because I'm an idiot and a sucker for a fixed GMT bezel, my monkey brain is going... yeah, buy this one. Buuuy iiiiit. Despite clearly being a terrible value *even compared to other current Seikos*. Gahh. Joining the "Seiko make cool *unlimited* watches again please" bandwagon as of now.

I’m not sure true GMT is better than caller GMT by default? They are just different and serve opposite purposes…

I agree - 100%

If they would’ve been smart they would’ve done away with the compass and put the 24 hour in there where you could do + or - gmt.

Many Seiko's just aren't worth the price.

I like this Alpinist but not for US$1300+ , hopefully it drops in price

Very nice, but it still has the ridiculous compass bezel and the ugly extra crown to turn it.

Good video

No cyclops, thats good, now get rid of the date.

If I'm going to spend $1,200 for a GMT watch, it should at least have a Miyota 9075 movement.

If it had even arabics, I might have gone for it. I can't do an alpinist with quarter arabics

When it comes to fine imitation watches, gussl delivers. I've bought from them several times, and I've never been let down.

I like this one with the same intensity I disliked the green one.

Hahaha “beep beep beep how the fuck did I spend this much on a seiko” 😂

Ah! Rolex explorer ii with the paint disappearing on the bezel?

If it sells, then there's a market. Seiko knows it, and everyone else too. Look at Hamilton, Omega, and every other watch company. They all increase their prices.

the price of this new SPB is just ridiculous.

Lovely watch overall but once again the pricing is way off base, and also there are 4 different fonts on the dial. Next!

It’s Theory of Economic and Culture of Economic 😃

Can you re-shoot the Tom Ford watch video with your more recent direct language? 😂

1:24 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

What happened to the video editor?

This would be a great $650 watch.

Lol do people not realize Seiko is trying to be more exclusive. That’s the reason for increased prices. Complain about it all you want. It won’t matter as people are still purchasing them.

I think youre being a little hard on seiko. This is a solid watch for $1000 even if its a desk GMT. You cant compre to the price of a Rolex. I get the sentiment but Seiko needs to move upscale. If they are perceived as a budget brand the chinese will destroy them. These need to move to mid tier so they can say they provide more cachet. Frankly they should stop selling their movemnts to third parties. Sux for us but good for them. This is the exact reason swatch stopped selling their movements. Swiss movemet in a chinese watch kills the Swiss made brand. To keep the enthusiasts happy perhaps they could sell orient movments.

i still want lol

Seiko as the😢 most valuable brand for low budget watch lover is getting out of reach for this people who are biggest group of watch lovers and this is very disappointing im sure seiko will regret doing this shit to its most loyal buyers.....

Yes... the seiko is too expensive (and ugly with that out of place X) but you cannot say that that Rolex isn't rediculously overpriced and overvalued!

Seiko bring out limited editions every week I bought the rock face European limited edition . It's a bonnie watch but gay on the wrist. 😂.