We love it and love burning the coal.

@@TheTradesmanChannelfound this today after two inches of rain. Plenty of wood, but coal is going to be looked at seriously. Thanks for explaining everything.

+Richard McKinlay thank you

+Thomas Russell you're welcome Thomas.

+John Collado good morning John. They make coal boilers too...

If they are half as good as my wood burner, I'll definitely be looking into it. If I'm shoveling snow or sand in the winter, I might just as well shovel coal too!

+John Collado might as well!

Coalpail forum is a great place to do research. Lots of knowledgeable people.

+Chris Cox hello Chris

+Daryl Iams we really like it, no plans to burn wood again.

TheTradesmanChannel 2017 tnx for such memories.:-)

+Allen Hunt hi Allen. We love it.

+Stephen Martin thank you, I try.

Good morning. That stove came out well for the abuse it had. As for new content, I put out at least two videos a week. There are over 500 on my channel, a lot of timber framing, blacksmithing and pretty much whatever I'm into at the time.

+Robert Canning no problem Bob.

+T W anything to make the heat last

Spend your money on insulation and house wrap. If you dont you arr just throwing your money up the chimney.

Dr fft5 hi 7u77

+Doug Mcdonell I am going to enjoy having you around, I think we can have some good discussions. Anything you burn is going to put nasty stuff out there when it is not a complete combustion. To get a complete combustion out if firewood you need to burn it at temperatures that most woodstoves can't handle, meaning if you want get all of the volatiles out of the wood smoke. Masonry heaters and rocket stoves do this very well because of the temps they can handle, it's usually around 2,000+*F. The way coal is formed determines how much pollutants it puts out. Lignate and bituminous coal is formed closer to the surface and doesn't get the heat and pressure put to it that anthracite does, so in the process of its formation it keeps most of its contaminates and therefore it does not burn very clean and is left with ash that is laden with some nasty stuff. The above coals are considered sedimentary rocks. Anthracite coal is formed much deeper with a lot of pressure but more importantly a large amount of heat. The heat and pressures put to it during formation actually allows most of the contaminates to escape the coal and it is left with a carbon content higher than 87% which gives it the clean burning characteristics. Anthracite is considered a metamorphic rock due to the way it is formed. It's also neat that coal starts out under swamps and is possible to form because of the low oxygen content of the water.

+MandJ c thank you

Pleasure to meet you. There's a bit of everything on this channel.

Hitzer makes a great stove.

Thank you

Professor Jim...nice ring to it.

+Craig F yes we will and yes they are.

Anthracite coal is the cleanest burning solid fuel, that has been lab tested and proven. I'm a big fan.

+Rod Peterson rope gasket was rolled a little

No disrespect buddy but I watched it with sound on and then watched it with sound muted and it made me feel warm and comfy.love your videos. Go go. Well done buddy

+Jacques Scholtz thank you, I'm glad you liked it. Best part is is that my wife loves that stove as well.

+Robert Canning anytime Bob. I used match light charcoal, the stuff that comes in the small bags and you light the bag.

+Lorne Lepage i am told that as of right now it is one of the most abundant fossil fuels we have in the country. Apparently it is in every state of the union, just how deep is the other thing to think about. Right now the anthracite we are getting is mostly from old mining operations and was often cast aside as waste and it is very close to the surface if not on the surface. So I would think the supply should be steady for many years to come.

There is a railroad in eastern Pennsylvania called the Reading and Northern that shipped from an online shipper over 100 hopper cars of anthracite coal a day. If you have a coal dealer in your area he can still order carloads prof hard coal as little as one at a time from 50 tons to 100 tons per car. I am a retired locomotive engineer and have run all types of locomotive's including steam locomotives. The coal breaker is in Reading, Pennsylvania. I can't remember the name of the mine the Reading and Northern serves but they will be happy to give you the name and phone number. Friend of mine bought an old house that is steam heated still had according to the manufacturer plate a hand fired soft coal boiler installed in 1907. He has repiped the entire house and repaired the Leakey radiator's and replaced the old hand fired boiler with a new model 700 EFM stoker fired soft coal boiler and loves it. Of course part of the reason he loves it so much was when he bought the old farm the coal bunker had over 37 tons of soft coal in it. Over the course of one summer he had the entire house repiped with code 80 steel pipe and hauled all the radiators to a shop in Somervile, Massachusetts that went through them and when we picked them up 12 hours later were and are like new. And most date from the early 1900's. Had to replace 7 radiators. All are still cast iron. I recommend you find a dealer who used to sell coal that is on a still active railroad line. He may have to fix his siding by having new ties installed if it hasn't been used in over 20 or more years but as people discover the beauty of heating with coal and stoker fired boilers are easy to maintain, EFM around since 1922 still builds the efm520 stoker fired anthracite burning boilers are still available new in addition to in house stoves like yours. If the local dealer doesn't have a rail siding like a dealer I grew up with as a kid in the late 50's early 60's hadn't had a load of coal delivered since 1966 and while the siding is still there was in terrible shape and the switch on the mainline was removed years ago by the railroad. He was willing to get coal by the railcar but was quoted by the railroad over $27,000 to reconnect the siding. I told him talk to the local track foreman and get a price to fix the siding without hooking up the siding. He did, cost him just over $4,000. Then as I recommended ordered three 100 ton carloads of coal, naturally the railroad could not deliver the cars. The next day the railroad installed a new switch hooking up his siding and delivered his three carloads of coal the day after that, no charge. Last winter he was surprised and sold over 2800 tons of soft and hard coal. Had to buy a new cab and chassis truck to install the old coal delivery sizzler jack coal delivery body on. Instead of shoveling the coal onto a belt driven elevator to unload the coal cars he uses a bobcat machine to unload the cars at the same unloading point in his siding. His dad told him the unloading point is simply granite large stones set in place without mortar that was originally installed in 1867' just wide enough for a modified bobcat bucket to fit into at 3 feet wide. When I spotted an old chain unloaded parked in the weeds and rusted to all get out I informed the owner this machine was what you shoved into the railcar unloading opening and when turned on would bring the coal out a pile into a 4 foot high pile onto the transfer belt machine. He bought a used transfer belt transfer elevating machine and after a local repair shop rebuilt the chain drive machine found unloading the coal capers much easier. His coal business is up over 100 percent this year but is more than 300 miles from Burlington, Vermont. My apologies I type too much once I get going I forget to look at how big a story I'm telling, the curse with turning into an old bat.

+James Shanks it's a darn good story.

Glad you liked it. I run coal in my forge as well...anthracite no less.

I agree 100% with you.

+ToolsConsumables i think fuckface needs a kick in the balls. That is ridiculous that that can even happen.

Dear Jim, Thank you very much for your kind support. I fear Fuckface is a thirty something young arrogant pup (Vice pPresident of some IT company, hence the utter contempt for others)who came to buy this house as it was inherited & as is often the case youngsters sell at a substantial discount to liquidise the property as quickly as they can. Suffice to say Fuckface came in one fine day & told us of his master grand design he had in mind for next door; but whilst in my home informing me what an eyesore my brand new stainless flue was ( a mere 5 feet tall, not exactly the Empire State building!!!). A few months later on I got a visit from the local council inspector followed by a letter informing me that the chimney has to go (no chimney=no burning possible). What really galls me is that I was 2 months away from statute of limitation. So working in winter used to be fun, no longer the case. Never mind we'll live with it as is from now. I wasn't prepared to pay the local council (Mafioso if you ask me) some £400.00 to appeal against the decision. So there we are! It would have been nice if there was a law that allowed one to hang Fuckface by the ballbag!! Thank you for your indignation. We'll live & fight another day. Kind regards.

+ToolsConsumables i couldn't live there. Even in New York state I can go out my back door and shoot all I want, burn wood or coal...I feel for you brother.

Presuming you still have your pellet stove you simply reinstall it with a horizontal power vent, a small power vent is a little vent that brings in outside ait a blows the exhaust out the double wall pipe. It normally is installed a few feet above the ground. Check with your local fire department for a permit instead of the political axxholes. The chief of the fire department gives you the ok it will make your neighbor and the councilman the ability to prevent you from installing it. Or simply show the fire chief what you had installed and ask of that is acceptable and when your neighbor and councilman show up simply tell them to pound sand and tell the councilman I WAS HERE BEFORE HE MOVED IN. HE KNEW WHAT WAS HERE. DONT LIKE IT? Move. I wouldn't let him win.

Dear James, Thank you very much fo your advice & kind support. However the council's enforcement notice was supposedly because my chimney represented "a visual pollution" would you believe ( nothing to do with either smoke &/ smell oddly enough). I did toy with the idea of a mass rocket heater but I have a 6 inch concrete slab on the floor. There are approximately 6 or 7 properties at most that could physically see my chimney.There is nothing to look at from the back of anyone's property other than a few trees & fences to look at. Not exactly a view with outstanding beauty!!!. To install a wood burning stove; I asked the local planning department if I could do it provided I followed all guidelines & sadly must be done by H.E.T.A.S registered personnel who also normally supply appliance too at grossly inflated prices to boot. The moment I told them I purchased one, they were not interested ( less money to be made!!!). The complete stove cost less than the double wall stainless flue pipes. The labour for connecting three pipes (£1200, approximately $1800, discuss!!!) cost more than stove & pipes. If I wanted to reinstate stove, I would have a devil of a job finding someone willing to recommission existing stove as I found out. The headache & cost involved to do it all over again are far too prohibitive to make it worthwhile I fear. Equally upon being served with said notice I had 1 month to appeal at the extortionate cost of £400 (approximately $600) which I was not willing to gamble as the decision could still go in Fuckface's favour. I must also point out the stove is not a pellet stove just a smoke free multi fuel appliance ( I burned pallets not pellets). Because we were a facing a financial drought in the building industry in 2011, to promote house owners to spend in order to keep the construction industry's economy running, the planning permits were quite relaxed & thus Fuckface was able to flatten his newly & very well built extension (already built to max. size from previous owners) to make it even taller & longer. I think if opportunity arises I will want to move into the countryside where one has no immediate neighbours to look at, never mind hear. In the UK we do have some strange laws regarding building permits but then again I dare say every country has them too. May I take this opportunity once again t thank you for your concern. Kind regards.

My local supplier used to carry it, best coal ever. Now I'm stuck with Reading coal, just one step higher than TSC coal.

+Dillons Woodworks hey Mike, good evening. We love it, Wish I put one in when I built the house.

I like this comment a lot better than your last one. Are you looking to burn coal?

@@TheTradesmanChannel Yes, on a boat, if a small enough stove exists. (respectfully, the comment you liked better was, simply stated, for a better, more informative vid.....the one you didn't like was for a vid which was little more than a rehash.....seen it heard it. No harm, no foul.)

All good. There are some tiny coal stoves out there that can still be found in good shape. It's amazing the different types of coal stoves and appliances that were used historically.

+nyjohn12 I know who you are John. For next year I'll be buying it by the ton. Going to get it in the summer when the price is down. I love the heat this puts out. You still burn it?

Yes but only by the bag. This year I'm burning off trees that I cut down. With the extreme cold temps I burned off 3 bags. My oil burning couldn't get up to the thermostat setting - it ran constantly. I went through a 275 tank of oil in less than 3 weeks. I had the oil burner going, electric heaters and the coal/wood stove going all at the same time. Another point, you may hear talk about the dangers of Radon. I retired from working at our local nuclear power plant. I have a college degree in radiation stuff. Radon comes from the disintegration of Radium. Trace amounts of Radium are in the ground. Any substance mined (such as coal, uranium, cement products and other materials will have these traces amounts of Radium in them. Since Radon is a gas and has a short half life, good ventilation will eliminate any danger. If you can't ventilate, sealing the floor of a building with paint or plastic sheeting will do the trick. The little bit of coal you have in the house will not be a problem.

+nyjohn12 i used to do radon remediation with the first mechanical contractor I worked for. We would core drill basement slabs and run vents through attics to exhaust fans. That's one reason I like a well vented house.

In Buchanan, NY there was a brickyard that made the bricks for the Revolutionary War Era houses and other structures. A coworker's house was built on a big pile of broken bricks. He sent an air sample to Pittsburgh University. The results were the highest concentration of Radon they had ever seen. Another time, we had a plant worker come in at 5:00 AM to get a reading (special job). He showered, left his house, made the short trip to the plant and went into the controlled radiation area. I worked Radiation Protection with an office at the exit point for this area. He was inside for no more than 5 minutes. When he came out he set off every radiation detector array - head to toe. After questioning and scanning him with Alpha detectors we found he was covered in Radon gas. It wasn't from the plant - it came from his well water at home. The shower left Radon all over his body. A water sample confirmed this.

+nyjohn12 wow

Nice to meet you, that page is great.

Thank you

+Jeff Knox good morning Jeff.

+Tynyyn lights up real well with matchlight charcoal.

+Free 2 Woodwork that's right, it works great.

This is stainless steel Metalbestos brand stove pipe. Folks call it triple wall but it's not a true triple wall. It requires a 2" clearance to combustible materials and there is a cap that is made to fit it.

+steve647my up here it's $250 a ton and should go a month in really cold weather, two months in milder winter.

I love this coal stove. The colder it gets outside, the warmer the house is.

@@TheTradesmanChannel im going to see if i can still get a coal grate for my furnace ?

I bet you can, just start hitting the keyboard.

+Michael VanGundy happy fishing my friend.

I made it, didn't work out that well because the coal needed more air.

+Chris Peters we can see the effects

@@TheTradesmanChannel the effects of what?

Check out coalpail.com, great information on anything coal related plus a ton of knowledge from people who use it.

+jim stew new hat..,good morning Jim

wow 40 Lbs a day.. I head they were hard on pellets but didn't think that hard, I see the cost of them, they do give off as much CO2 as wood, and who know what they add to the mix to bind it, it is not listed, that why I would never use them, I know when they converted the hydro plant here from coal to pellets, the smoke coming out the stack was a lot, when it burned coal you seen nothing except on really cold days you see steam, only problem is after 6 months after the conversion they shut the whole hydro plant down, do to pellet shortage we were told, they spent millions doing to conversion, if we could get coal here id use it in a hart beat, the cost to have it shipped it is very costly, out west coal is all they use

There is NOTHING added to bind the wood back together, the wood is simply pressed threw a die and it stays pressed that way. I do not thin 40 lp of wood pellets is all that much. Add up how much cord wood you would put into a stove in 24 hours. LOT more than 40 lp. I see NO smoke out of my chimney I smell NOTHING inside or out the entire time it is burning. Ash from it is next to nothing also. During an entire winter hear in Pa I think all of the ash from my pellet stove would fit right into a 5 gallon bucket. previous years with a regular wood stove would give me 5 gallon of ash in just 2 weeks and smoke like hell out the chimney.

What jim stew said is accurate with my pellet stove also. Had a friend with coal and he loved it. Had another friend with coal and he hated it,lol. The both of them had very dark ceilings from the dust after 6-7 yrs but they had some warm homes and tended the fire about the same as Jim does, twice a day.

Thanks for watching.

+Douglas Mungham good morning Doug.

Good morning Jim, the fire looks great and should bring the amount of care that the wood stove needed down and be warmer, I hope you and the family are all doing fine

I make my living with combustion analysis, know a bit about it. I agree with the 95% combustion on a properly built rocket mass heater and that's because you can achieve the +2,000*F burn temps that are required for truly clean combustion. Masonry heaters run the same numbers. Not sure where the 190% efficiency rating comes from. Normally that number on a combustion analyzer is not indicative of a proper burn.

@@TheTradesmanChannel The 190% is my own selling point. A modern box stove needs to be rated 80% efficient. In the regulators' "legalese" the term "efficiency" is similar to the "proof" of alcohol. 80 proof=40% alcohol. An 80% efficient stove burns 40% of the available fuel! 95% of fuel consumption equates to 190% efficiency in LAW. It's their language, not mine. lol. I came here while brainstorming a 6" coal mass heater/masonry stove. With the riserless core the only change is the fuel chamber and air ports. The 8"x18-22" fuel chamber wood version modified for the coal process. Now that I've been ridden hard cold and put away wet for so long I'm thinking a bucket is better to carry than 80# of dirty logs. lol

I have. The coal is a little over half less than oil or LP...it is a couple $100 more than firewood if I buy it in log form and cheaper than wood cut, split and delivered.

I do not.

+PowerCosmic thank you.

Your neighbors need to learn to mind their own business. You'll put out less pollution burning anthracite than wood by a lot.

I have one to refurbish, should be fun.

@@TheTradesmanChannel what did you get? I have a Glenwood 30 waiting for restoration.

+Donnell Smith so do we.

@@TheTradesmanChannel black gold, i love it.

Me too, thanks for watching.

With coal you need as much draft as you can. The air intake is how you control everything with coal. Most newer coal stoves do have a bypass damper in them that diverts the flow of exhaust and it works really well.

That's a pretty good idea. I'm not sure though on what else is in the ash.

I would never use coal ash for such uses. Coal ashes contain lead, arsenic and other heavy metals in quite high levels plusnthey contain trace amounts of radioactive elements as well. Soap made from coal ash lye can be very toxic. Only use wood ash for lye

You would want to use hard wood ash (ash, maple, oak) for soap making.

+Paul Owen you do it all!

Just seeing your comment. You will love the stove.

You da man !!! I'm no longer spending 3 solid months finding wood, cutting wood, transporting wood, stacking wood, carrying it into the house, burning wood and feed a my wood buring furnace and wood stove in my sun room ... every four hours. Nope.. done with all that, thanks to you and yor fideo/ I', selling everything .. cha in saw, chains, farmer's jack, hoisting equipment, Englander wood buring furnace. Heartland wood stove, log spliter, etc. I can manage a bag of nugget coal, a US stove model pot belly, and relax.I', going on 80 and I don't have the longevity with my strength like I used to. Thanks to finding your video, I can still keep my Mrs. and I warm, heat our 1200 sq ft ranch, with little or not big effort o nmy part. Thanks again !!

Good morning sir. Thank you for a great comment. Good luck on your quest for a stove.

+Robert Cline 3 to 4 ton per winter at $250 per ton locally.

That seems to be a very good solution for heat in the northeast. And the cost compared to LP, NG, electric or home heating oil is great. It's great that your wife does not need to feed wood to the stove every hour now. Cheers

+Robert Cline good morning Robert. We like it.

Most of the way, this stove has an automatic air intake that will open up as the stove cools down. Works off of a spring.

Hey there. The steel stoves with brick are even better. Steel is much more forgiving of over firing than cast. If I had a wood source I'd probably burn both.

@@TheTradesmanChannel You know what, Jim, I think you're right. I looked inside of my buddy's stove last night -- and it didn't look bad at all. Hell, I didn't even see any cracked fire bricks in the damned thing, so that bodes pretty well. You see, the old wood stove that came with our house has an air-jacket-surround and a fairly large blower mounted on the lower part of the rear panel. It also has both an 8" output duct and a 6" chimney duct -- both on top -- which both keeps it blowing air through a duct that leads upstairs (to the main living area) -- and keeps it tucked into a corner of the basement. In short, the top mounted chimney duct makes the stove nice and compact. The USS 1557M I described in my last has a rear chimney duct, which isn't ideal, but it does feature two 8" outputs (both on top) with two separate blowers. In my mind, we could potentially burn coal and force air into both ends of the main floor of the house. I'm an old southern vet -- who never owned a heating stove before last year -- but this seems to make pretty good sense to me. Thanks for the kind response ~ Red

It is a Vermont Castings 2310 or some call it a Vigilant 2. They don't make them anymore but you can still find them from time to time like I did with this one, a viewer about 8 hours away offered it to me.

Thank you for the compliment.

All good information. I actually work with combustion for a living, all fuels ranging from #6 fuel oil (almost sludge) to methane. I work on large industrial burners, chillers and rack refrigeration...that's why I burn solid fuel, I have no desire to come home and work on a furnace. As far as complete combustion, from what I have seen on a combustion analyzer is that it is fairly complete with under 50ppm CO.

Wow that's very, very surprising. One of the most popular methods of suicide in Japan is by starting a (char)coal bbq grill inside the house or car because they produce so much CO gas. Do you have a video on the the measurement? Nobody else has made a video analyzing the combustion products of a coal fireplace anywhere on youtube (or anywhere else for that matter) so far as I can see.

@@Muonium1 I can make one this heating season. The bbq charcoal has a lot of stuff in it it seems, it is not nearly as pure as the anthracite. Keep in mind my readings were taken after the fire was well established, at light off even with anthracite the numbers are much higher but once the whole bed is burning it evens out. Wood on the other hand burns extremely dirty and that is mostly because most steel woodstoves cannot handle the temperatures it requires for complete combustion.

That is a Vermont Castings 2310 coal stove. They do not make them anymore but there is a company named Hitzer that makes them even better.

@@TheTradesmanChannel do you have the sight for the Hitzer stove. like your videos

+smokedtires good tip

It has plenty of stuff in it, much less than bituminous though.

It is a Vermont Castings Vigilant 2

+James Shanks thanks James, I love this stove.

+KrugerrandFarms good story, my wife liked it. If the burn is complete CO can be down to 0 ppm, when I set up PowerFlame burners I have to set them to 0ppm to 50ppm CO. I can generally get them to 0. It's all in the fuel to air...too much excess air will make CO skyrocket, too little will do the same.

Great reply and verrrry interesting, talk about more of this. I almost took the dirt nap testing the cheese vat because of poor ventilation it was scary even propane makes enough CO to poison you.

+KrugerrandFarms they all can if the fuel to air mix is wrong. The CO is a result of fuel not getting burned off.

A couple of points, wood produces methane when it decays and carbon dioxide when it burns well, carbon monoxide when it's burned with too little air. Coal ash contains arsenic, mercury, lead, and other heavy metals, it's not good with wind or water.

GOOd answer Doug thank you!