:')

yeah lol

@@TheUgster iam also watching

Kek

Yeah

and the worst part is when you get infected by a virus. youcant react fast enough to remove it due to the speed of the ssd

LOL

so the start animation was created for HDD only

@@chrissmith1152 you bet

that got me too!

Change your profile picture you idiot It almost matches the white area of the KZfaq

Deepak k stfu turn on dark mode you dumbass

@@tfr_rft i am using PC

@@hellothere2764 and same for you

@@deepakk1347 you can use dark mode on pc too

Same

SmmmgygfBfshtshts 😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Mast joke mara

True

Lol

:D

Ahhh yes the sdd

LMAO

Xd

Hahahahahahaha

XD

Yes

@Crispy Beats idiot

@@itzzawesome5411 get out

Thats true

U r telling right bro

True!!

SO, if you haven't got money you can buy a HDD and get thinking about nothing))))

Unless your previous SSD suddenly bricked ...

Lol indeed

Yeah i agree. that's totally unfair man!

Candi Soda being a network engineer for 21 years, I used to tell people not to turn their computers​ on its side or the data would drain out. Same thing with the monitor, the color would drain out. I was actually shocked how many people actually believed me to. The best was when someone complained that the printer said the toner was low & they didn't know how to fix it. I said it means you need to put the printer higher on the desk.

+Magestic lol

Candi Soda some real trump logic right there

why?

確かにそうで草 イレギュラーだよ

そして英語に敢えて日本語で返してる俺草

And I dare to return to English and I can laugh at me

yes, that’s why I still using HDD

lol

Now that Hybrid and HDD are too Salty because of it lol

rofl

+Keaton Knippel just try not to reright stuff on your ssd to much or it will star to fail and get errors

RIDE_ THE_LIGHTNING 117 so, if i have my os and occasionally put games on my ssd will it perform any good

Haven Elias-Branca because he only just got online with the HDD machine ;)

Christopher Thake 😂😂😂😂

Now 6 years

Yeah

Hello, im from the future and everyone use SSD

Lol, can't u make a cup of coffee, and then turn PC on SSD on? Wtf, logic

@@ac9h482 its also a good valid reason why you slacking at work for you boss:))))

LOL that’s literally every teacher

Yeah. But if you remove the HDD, will your machine still generate enough heat to fry the eggs?

Асян Some people just don’t get jokes. Whoosh. Moron.

Haha, thats so true :D

SSD : I'm speed...

HDD:whaaat?

lol....

lmao

Why would you need 2TB SSD?

yeah, nothing like putting a thousand dollar hard drive into a $250 machine

stupid question these days lol

4 tb ssd would be enough

get an os drive to store your system in

@@MohitSharma-so9st yea 4TB ssd that costs 1100$ would be enough

@@MohitSharma-so9st yea, cause everyone got 1000$ to waste on drives. Like with that money you could get a pc. (not now because of the shortages but still)

@@user-df3ty8ei2u you can just buy used and piece it together.

Kakashi Hatake lmao

ha haa.

Lol

I think mines slower

I'd rather you'd buy some more RAM or an SSD because their write speeds are faster than ever and their SOOOO cheap nowadays but If you don't want to just install Avast or any other antivirus they remove crap from your computer so you can stick with a HDD

That Sir, is the truth. Maybe they knew for so long, but because of marketing and economics, they played with us... :(

And the price was expensive too

I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but in case you're not, here goes! Replacing the hdd on an older computer really won't do as much for you, because the rest of the system still can't process the information quickly, no matter how quickly the hard drive(whatever kind it is) can deliver it. SSDs are important nowadays, because the rest of the system can handle data significantly faster than HDDs can hand it out, modern SSDs are now significantly faster than the computers that house them, with the only advances now being capacity and durability. Also, the speed of your programs, once launched, will still be limited to the number crunching power of your CPU, they'll just be launched much faster with an SSD. The SIZE of all running programs will still be limited by your amount of RAM(RAM speed has surprisingly little effect on pc performance), you'll just be able to populate that RAM with data much more quickly from an SSD. Smoothness of visuals will still be limited by the power of your graphics and central processors, but games and videos will launch, load, and save much more quickly with an SSD. There's a LOT more to it than, "the industry has been screwing us for years".

That's not really true at all. Many old laptops had incredibly slow 5400RPM or lower HDDs and replacement with an SSD can breathe new life into them. Old desktops also had slower HDDs, MUCH slower when it comes to non-sequential access, like an order of magnitude slower. Today is not like 15 years ago. Ten years ago Intel released Core 2 Duo and practically any dual core processor based system, besides the ultra low power variants used in low end mobile computing, are going to benefit from a modern SSD, providing they at least have SATA even if it's SATA I, or have a multi-lane PCIe SATA controller card added if PCIe 1. As for the speed of your programs, most things done on the typical PC besides gaming or video encoding, do not put much of a load on the CPU. The average 10 year old system probably averages under 10% CPU utilization, let alone something newer. Granted that is only an average but for momentary purposes it only needs to keep up with realtime activities like video playback, something that's been offloaded to GPU for around 10 years too if you ignore the sluggish intel integrated video from a few years past. It is true that the industry hasn't been screwing us for years. For years there were SSD available already, but we had to wait for SATA standards to mature to be fast enough, for flash chip process size to shrink again and again to bring capacity down to an affordable level, and for SSD controller tech to mature.

Yeah, we're on the same page about most of this I think. I'd estimate that the average pc made before about year 2005 won't show any significant difference between a MODERN HDD and a top of the line SSD though(which was my original point). Your CPU load estimates are pretty inacurate I'd say, considering that Core2 CPUs came out in 2006, and the very best of those are rapidly approaching unusability with modern programs, spending the majority of their time above 50% load with anything more taxing than checking email and Craigslist(I know a lot of old people). A decent modern PC with that old 5400RPM HDD will be WORLDS more useful than a 2006 PC, with a dual-core, 4GB of DDR2, a GeForce 6600 GT and the worlds fastest modern SSD.

I have a lot of heart to give.

TheUgster the man himself!

@@TheUgster This is one year old but oh my god I did not expect this to be so wholesome.

@@omarabdelkadereldarir7458 You're wholesome.

@@TheUgster

+kowaletzki its not really lol

***** 7200 rpm can be fast for games but not booting

+anson huang Chrome is shit lol

+anson huang lol :)

Luis Torres Chrome has been proven to be slower than IE, and Chrome eats your RAM like bread.

Enderboy true

@EclipseTrips The new Microsoft Edge sucks as it is available only on one platform as far as I know and it's getting too much attention it doesn't need

@EclipseTrips Falkon is also an ugly (on Windows only) browser and faster browser than Chrome, so what?

@EclipseTrips If you are talking about Falkon, the screenshots are from Linux

SSD - Opera GX Hybrid - Chrome HDD - Internet Explorer

+Fazree Said ssds are too expensive.

I just missed a second hand 1tb kingston ssd for 200$ T-T didnt have the money on hand and it was gone . My point is , you can find the cheap if you are lucky .

Agreed! The cost for $:GB now is tremendously lower than just a couple years back. I just bought a 1TB SSD yesterday for $275(CAD) and the difference in speed over traditional HDD is game-changing. Very satisfied and would encourage others to consider even "Lower-end" consumer SSD to upgrade your rigs.

***** Probably second hand . As I said , I missed one too because i didnt have the money on hand ...

+HSD112 I got it from Canada Computers. If you're in Canada as well there's likely a store somewhere nearby to grab one at the current "sale" price until July 7. Here's a link m.canadacomputers.com/mobile/itemid/091859 There are also similar performance SSDs in a comparable price range. If you can't get to Canada computers to pick one up I'm confident Amazon also has them available for the same pricing. Hope that helps

MMmg

***** No it can't. There is no research to back that up.

***** Cbd hemp oil can not and does not cure cancer.

***** canibus oil doesn't cure cancer. There is noo proof.

***** I think im cured. although i sold my wife to buy the oil

+XxBigDAWG22xX I second that. I am adopting that same solution.

+XxBigDAWG22xX M.2 slot for your Windows - a lot faster than the regular SATA connector SATA express (16Gbit) for your SSHD - Not as fast as the M.2 ssd, but a LOT faster than the regular HDD even the 10 000rpm

+XxBigDAWG22xX but an ssd is too expensive for some so the solution is hybrids so boot os is in NAND flash and the others are in your hard drive

yeah thats what i do im pretty happy with it. but only people with some knowledge should do that because you often have to change the paths when installing programs or downloading stuff

+TheBigchekka you call that knowledge LMFAO

I'm on 2G. Pfft

Dody. T Wibowo i gree for u

Dody. T Wibowo and optane is 4g+

94KoolAid You must be friggin kiddin *facepalm*

ㅆㅂ ㅋㅋ

T but still , let's not forget it's past glory hehe

Leonard Fair ........ What?

Leonard Fair It's still used now days tho

great analogy

Best of KZfaq - BoY jx😃😎😎😑😑😐😑😶😟🙁🙁😖fxxxcvhjm. V

HDD is best

I like both HDDs and SSDs

lol

Haaaa...lol.

128gb ssd for 20$

It's funny coz this comment will just be more and more wrong as years go by.

As fabrication for these get cheaper generally SSD's nowerdays are very affordable compared 5 years back.

@@quackmeister69 come to the 3rd world and say the same lol

I would much rather save up my money for an SSD than to waste money on a slow HDD

aceinthehole472 l

ssd is way more expensive tho. i bought a 1tb hdd and i could have bought a 256gb ssd for the same price. not worth the extra speed in my opinion

Faheem Iqbal yes it is worth I don't wanna wait 20 minutes for a file transfer

65 gb ssd to low space kapaciti no usable. Min 256 gb usable.

SSD has higher speed but less storage HDD has low speed but much more bigger storage Hybrid is expensive Everything is balanced lol😂

Sergio lefilaf sabja I get the joke

+DutchRedGamingixj

haha

Sergio lefilaf sabja 1ST ;)

Sergio FLS 4rd, 5rd, 6rd, 7rd... 36rd...

I know right, it's actually really nice to just watch and relax while reading some tips on a loading screen, I sometimes like waiting for some reason, and when things get too fast, I rush, again, for some reason

Most people overlook you can get more storage space for cheaper when goin HDD

@@mr.aizawa5257 A lot of people who have a lot of media to store tend to choose a smaller SSD for their boot drive which allows for fast boots, fast frequent program starts and fast game loads for games stored there. Other media like other games, movies, etc are stored on the slower large HDD

@@vista9434 since I draw digital art, I needed a lot of file space for fairly cheap. For what I do, I felt the ssd was unnecessary, because it would barely take advantage of that faster ssd speed.

@@mr.aizawa5257 I do a lot of VM work as a hobby on my computer which requires stupid amounts of space (as you're basically emulating another computer inside your computer) though I still benefit from having an SSD as my boot drive (while having a 3TB internal storage HDD along with my network-attached storage) as I can hop onto my desktop or laptop quicker and not have to wait around for my programs to open. Laptops also benefit from longer battery run times as SSDs use less power than an HDD. Once you go SSD as your boot, you really don't want to go back

its good

ThomasGrillo اتغابوالتى

Lol

@@latifar9912 согласен с тобой, полный lol

Get a Kingston a400 and pair it with a better HDD for the best of both worlds

im sorry but those were not 3 seconds and even if they were, 3 seconds on absolutely everything really add up - especially if u are a tiltable gamer , those 3 secs might save your computer xD

SSD for the OS and Hybrid for everything else is the best Value/Money combo u can achieve I think

Andrew Whitburn Are they really THAT slow?

haha yes, at least the model I had in my laptop was super slow. I actually read up on that model and it seemed to be a common issue with poor performance. I actually just put in a Samsung 750 and it is very impressive with its responsiveness. I find it seems to be performing better than my 840 I bought years ago for my desktop.

Andrew Whitburn Yikes 😮

i got 2TB hitachi and its fast as hell with i7

Hitachi are probably the worst brand of hard drive, ever!

400 iQ

Oh my

I don't recommend doing that for the sake of your COMPUTER!!!!!!!!!

Ohhhhhhhh myyyyyyyy goddddddddd

Chaotic evil

+cjhan47 Agreed.

+Littlefabio Hybrid I believe is always the best option unless you are completely comp.. clumsy! I mean then you wouldn't need the faster flash memory of the hybrid anyway if that was the case. This is a bit old, and the RPM of the HDD is 5400RPM which is average but there are 7200s which go fair bit faster... That being said with 16Mb cache which is actually quite good it helps speed things along, especially ONCE IT GETS RUNNING. Having high cache and a 7200 RPM is still quite good especially if there is no option for a custom made laptop like in my case since I only have 5 - 6 Business days left before I leave... or if custom made is too pricey...

Man, it only boots fasters. On a SSD, also your Programms and EVERYTHING will open faster, your PC will be much more responsive.

I wouldn't need a hybrid because i have a 3tb 170mb/s hdd and a 1tb 850 evo. With rapid mode to 4900 mb/s. Great ssd

+Robert Shuste I don't think you understand that some people can't afford a SSD

Make sure to do a cache clean and defrag your hd and it will be like new

@@alexanderr6474 Defrag doesn't do much since Windows Vista. The fragmentation level stays around 2-3%.

Eh, that depends. A 240GB SSD costs less than a 1TB SSHD, so people who don't really use massive storage will benefit from a 240GB SSD.

I have ~314 GB of storage being used so that clearly doesn't apply to me.

will do you prefer me to get a 2 tb sshd better than 500 gb ssd ??

+Jordan Brown you can always get a 2ND one when you need it

i just bought and now waiting for my new laptop, it has a 1TB SSHD 8GB SSD cache, i have taken my 256SSD out my old one and will add it,, . i will stick my software and a few games on the 256 but not sure if it's worth changing the OS?. as the specs. say it's on an *GB SSD cache anyway.. thanks

Isn't it funny 😂 .... Ohh well ... Bye

+snowiblind Rightly so. I think it's hilarious how much longer the HDD takes to load. They're basically inferior to SSD's in every way except price. (for now)

lol 27 likes

APPLBL00M wait wat lol

+APPLBL00M consumer grade for sure. im running two 7 year old 10k WD velociraptors and they are faster than a single 600gb ssd. but... they were $300 each 7 years ago for the 300gb version.

Correct

OH! Really? Interesting. I'm definitely keeping that in mind.

I have one myself and the first boot times were about the same as my last hard drive (seagate barracuda) but after a few weeks of boots it its quite fast still not fast as an ssd but pretty close, now ssd prices are way cheaper so a hybrid is pointless now, you can get a 500gb samsung 850 evo for $150 now, thats enough space to get most people by. or you can go the mainstream route and get a 250 gig 850 evo for $75 for a boot drive and use your current hard drive lol

Amadax You can get a 1Tb SSHD off the internet for as cheap as 60 to 80 bucks. So that's not a bad deal either.

yea to me its not worth it now. if you install your os and have some small programs such as web browsers, everything becomes much more responsive because there is a much faster reads and writes for everything on the drive rather than a faster boot time which my pc is running mostly 24/7. if you save a little more for a 500gb ssd, even a lesser quality ssd of the 850 evo something like an Adata 512gb going for $120 will outperform a hybrid even in boot times not to mention indexing and accessing files. Its really just my opinion though and I know some people don't really mind having a mechanical drive and yea mechanical and hybrid drives are a really good value.

+njdevil281 because it's a IMAc

njdevil281 that's sad, yet doesn't surprise me. it's Apple

+Anthony Trifoglio True...but it has a 16MB cache.

Panglos oh in that case that 16 mb cache is worth the extra $1000-$2000

+Anthony Trifoglio Around $100 per MB sounds about right. How many MB are there in a TB?

Ameya S I can imagine you got bluescreen or something as you wrote this XD :D

+Ameya S Probably couldn't hear you over the spinning discs wrrrrrrr

HDD: "Please don't forget your data !"

Ameya S

Ameya S how to know if my pc is hdd or ssd or hybrid

Not surely, SSD have more time before it starts to get errors and the HDD has to defragmentate.

Sm00th TV I only trust hdds for about six years.

Yeah, an SSD will usually have a longer lifespan unless you're a business that constantly writes to it. SSDs usually only die because of hitting their write limit and that's usually not for a very long time.

Kellin Quinn my first ssd die after 1 year and few month, my secont ssd die after 2 years my 7200 hd never die and is still in use for more than 5 years. Ssd is just useless.

Cédric Yvon i had a ssd ADATA 32gb and it works about 1 year, the ssd are really fast but not trustable, i have hybrids right now and one ssd kingstone 120gb, will see how long it works

+P Meister Then you are not worthy... jk idk XD

40 seconds, everyday, lets say for 3 years = 730hours, that's 30.41 days of waiting. If you work, how much money could you make in 730 hours? Could you have used a tiny portion of that money towards a higher priced SSD? I'd hope so. :)

No, that's not how math works. It's 730 minutes, which is 12.17 hours, which is around half a day. Not even close. (40*365*3 = 43800 => 43800/60 = 730 minutes => 730/60 = 12.17 hours)

Oh damn, you're right. Math fail :P Still saved some time :P

hhhh me too

Be careful! If you write to an SSD a lot it can die pretty quickly too! Bear that in mind. SSDs should be used for reading operations mostly, such as an OS installation, some games (a big deal of them don't really benefit from an SSD) and software in general. For massive storage that you won't really access all the time (movies, music, videos), the HDD is still the way to go. What you could do is configure an SSD to cache a HDD with intel SRT to create a hybrid drive with all the performance of your SSD with as much storage as you want from the HDD. Sounded like a pretty interesting solution to me. I still want to do some more research on all this, and if it's generally better to use an SSD and a HDD separately, if it's better to cache the HDD with the SSD, if it's better to do both or just buy an SSHD. Since I currently have money for neither of those options, I'm not really worried. Hahahah. But it is nice to learn new stuff.

Lol i have hdd

What’d you mean? With hdd you too can save time by making a coffee while it loads

@@SpookaySpctr What will happen if we already made coffee and drank it. Do you mean we should make coffee another time for saving time?

Aravind SriKrishna yes =D

@@SpookaySpctr what'd you mean? We can wacth a video with SSD when you drink a cofee Sorry, bad English

Its splash screen.

@@LiegeMaximo he's referring to the windows 7 startup animation, or maybe you are making a joke

@@misterobtuse5335 its technical name is splash screen. The startup animation is called the splash screen.

@@LiegeMaximo windows 7 startup animation or dell splash screen

@@misterobtuse5335 ah my bad, the companies logo is splash screen, win 7 logo animation is bootanimation. My mistake 😅

Who needs intros. Or sound. Or words.

@@TheUgster absolutely TRUE. KZfaqrs must change the way they vlogging things or explaining stuffs briefly ,simple, and mostly quitely

It's like SSD + HDD

Yaa

Good speed +more storage

Unless you're dealing with a laptop, pre-M.2. With only one space available for a drive, a hybrid is certainly an up if you can't afford SSD prices.

You know having ssd for os and hdd for storage means hybrid right?

batabatonica 'Hybrid' in this instance refers to the hybrid-drives, which uses HDD primarily for storage, and caches the most-accessed files onto a smaller (8-32GB) SSD partition. So not really.

1. NVME 2. SATA III 3. Hybrid 4. HDD *

1. M.2 NVMe SSD 2. M.2 Sata III SSD / 2.5 Sata III SSD 3. Hybrid Drive 4. HDD *

DGJM 3. SSHD

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