TheViper's ONE MILLION Arbalests!

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This game happened during the 2v2 World Cup Group Stage, where Norway found themselves up against the underdogs Czech Republic B in Group A. Czech Republic chose their home map as Arena, and Mbl and Viper had something ridiculous planned.
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@T90Official 3 жыл бұрын

Thoughts on this strategy? “Completely broken” comes to mind when archers destroy buildings faster than siege. More World Cup 2v2 action coming to KZfaq soon!

@jakubwisniewski1827 3 жыл бұрын

Wouldnt it be viable to counter this with berbers? Horse skirms (forgot the name) and camel archers

@flygonbreloom 3 жыл бұрын

I mean, it only works if there's a skill disparity between the players, right? It's broken in the sense that it shouldn't be possible to achieve unless there's assisting factors.

@KageMinowara 3 жыл бұрын

I feel both impressed and disgusted at the same time.

@quakesquakes 3 жыл бұрын

@@flygonbreloom Don't bring logic into this sir. *Viper destroys me w Spanish archers* T90: OMG THIS IS bRoKeN!

@Gevaudan1471 3 жыл бұрын

Wouldnt onagers be a viable counter?

@colbunkmust 3 жыл бұрын

True fact: Saladin tried to ally with the Mayans at the battle of Jaffa but Richard the Lionhearted banned that civ pick which is why he lost.

@harishsubramanian1241 3 жыл бұрын

Also, Motamid was in exile.

@MickeyasGilliady 3 жыл бұрын

he didn't lose that battle tho. your fact is more like false

@colbunkmust 3 жыл бұрын

@@MickeyasGilliady Are you saying Saladin won the Battle of Jaffa in 1192? Cuz he certainly didn't...

@MickeyasGilliady 3 жыл бұрын

@@colbunkmust I only said he didn’t lose

@colbunkmust 3 жыл бұрын

@@MickeyasGilliady Saladin did lose, his army was forced to retreat after failing to push the English army out of Jaffa, and lost hundreds of men before his army routed from the field. The English and Italian contingent only reported a few soldiers lost. In the words of Baha' al-Din a Muslim historian present at the battle “I have been assured … that on that day the king of England, lance in hand, rode along the whole length of our army from right to left, and not one of our soldiers left the ranks to attack him. The Sultan was wroth thereat and left the battlefield in anger…” Sounds like gg to me.

@ichigoblackTWD 3 жыл бұрын

MbL's largest military: 1 11

@ADCFproductions 3 жыл бұрын

and he didn't even have to produce it xD

@thomatrix3d524 3 жыл бұрын

@@ADCFproductions he actually did, 11 he made A ram 🤣

@ADCFproductions 3 жыл бұрын

@@thomatrix3d524 argh i thought it was the scout!! XD 48

@blarch2 3 жыл бұрын

The scout died before the ram was created.

@DommHavai 3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't need more to defeat his opponents

@mikhaogung 3 жыл бұрын

I am convinced this one game is single-handedly responsible for the removal of the Obsidian Arrow upgrade

@neelchaudhary6182 2 жыл бұрын

True dat. Viper be breaking strats like you never know before

@ahcw2 2 жыл бұрын

yeah, devs overreacted, skill gap was huge and made strategy look more op that it actually was.

@Jamesh-riffs 7 ай бұрын

@@ahcw2I think it was more due to the fact that a handful or crossbowmen (not even arbalest) could level walls and castles.

@LilGamingYes 3 жыл бұрын

"Will the castle go up before it's completed?" -T90 2020

@cliff9136 3 жыл бұрын

Knew I wouldn’t be the only 1 to catch that literary gem!

@JamesJackel 3 жыл бұрын

@@cliff9136 Literary? 11

@cliff9136 3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesJackel yes

@ucallmeschnitzel 3 жыл бұрын

"Most ridiculous thing I've ever seen: Mbl building houses."

@cynthiathornton5762 3 жыл бұрын

13:48

@chanky1000 3 жыл бұрын

Arbalest melting a castle faster than siege : now I’ve seen everything

@koltdourden1 3 жыл бұрын

How the f* that was possible?

@benjiddragon5247 2 жыл бұрын

@@koltdourden1 saracens teambonus + maya castle tech ^^

@antondeleon3906 3 жыл бұрын

I think my favorite memory of Team Norway using this strat was back in a different WC when, midway through the game, roughly this exchange happened: MBL: "Viper? Do we have...is there...like..." Viper: "Yes MBL?" MBL: "Backup plan?" Viper: "Oh, ok, sure. What is it?" MBL: (laughs) "I'm asking." Viper: "Oh. (laughs) No. We don't need backup plan, this will work."

@kungfujesus1874 3 жыл бұрын

Hhhhnb BB h

@tomascanevaro4292 3 жыл бұрын

Obsidian arrows + saracen teammate = Tsar bomb

@Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman 3 жыл бұрын

It's like mini trebuchet

@britneyspheres7yearsago11 3 жыл бұрын

Tsaracens

@OhSayWhatIsTruth 3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the Gastraphetes unit in Age of Mythology. So fun to destroy buildings with those guys

@illunati-morninstar 3 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@placer7412 3 жыл бұрын

@@OhSayWhatIsTruth yooo i loved those bad boys, the sound of all the arrows hitting the building at the same time lol

@harishsubramanian1241 3 жыл бұрын

The game that caused Obsidian Arrows to be removed from the Mayans Tech Tree.

@albertonavarro8904 3 жыл бұрын

RIP Siege arbalest. We'll always remember you.

@plz7210 3 жыл бұрын

It's no longer a thing

@harishsubramanian1241 3 жыл бұрын

@@plz7210 learn to comprehend what you read

@Redhairedviking09 3 жыл бұрын

"Viper has more archery ranges than I have friends". So relatable!

@neelchaudhary6182 2 жыл бұрын

Yup

@Gauss4724 3 жыл бұрын

Me: flaming arrows cannot melt steel beams. Norway A: hold my beer

@thomasfplm 3 жыл бұрын

Norway A: maybe not, but it can melt stone

@Miraideat 3 жыл бұрын

At 13:31 we discover Mbl has finally found a solution to getting housed

@Janovich 3 жыл бұрын

"vipey vipey, im dying" lmao now im dying too

@yoyodude-aoe2726 3 жыл бұрын

And boys and girls that's how we lost Obsidian arrows.

@JanusForssling 3 жыл бұрын

Rip. Never forget

@yoyodude-aoe2726 3 жыл бұрын

@@JanusForssling Obsidian arrow 2.0 is okay too

@theinnkeeper768 3 жыл бұрын

@@yoyodude-aoe2726 - Yeah I feel like the skirmisher upgrade is just as good. Skirmishers are a common answer to Mayans and now they dominate fights where they match skirm for skirm.

@azazelfallen2553 3 жыл бұрын

As someone from Czech republic, this makes me happy, even though czech team lost. If they played against anyone else, than Viper and MBL, they would have most likely won.

@patrikkopejtko9330 3 жыл бұрын

I wasn't expecting them playing on such high level! Very interesting game! O:)

@Dunewarrior00 3 жыл бұрын

Man I was cheering them on the entire time. They played their hearts out.

@Doubleranged1 3 жыл бұрын

@@Dunewarrior00 this is what is great about aoe2 competitive. People cheering on good gameplay. Such a difference from many other esports.

@QWERTY-gp8fd 3 жыл бұрын

@@Doubleranged1 which esport dont have fans that cheer for good players? have u ever seen dota 2 tournaments such as manila major 2016,ti3 grand final, ti5 grand final? its hype af. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aOB7lb1eudPDiac.html&ab_channel=PutTankInAMall kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bqeEYLJ21qrUemQ.html&ab_channel=hOlyhexOr kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aauci6qd0brUoGQ.html&ab_channel=NoobFromUA kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mMCBq5aA1ZrDn40.html&ab_channel=NoobFromUA kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNNoZLdj0dm9nXk.html&ab_channel=NAVIDota2 just watch these and tell me its not hype. t90 is good caster but he lacks hype compared to top tier dota 2 casters.

@amosdraak3536 3 жыл бұрын

Was T90 making a joke saying he wishes he was as good as his brother, or does he have another brother that’s actually real good at AOE2? I know he has one brother who’s not very good at all.

@lilpeach101 3 жыл бұрын

Now I definitely know I'm a Low elo legend. I main Mayans and I researched obsidian arrows for my plumes plenty times, thanks for the techtip T90.

@ayush885 3 жыл бұрын

The good old days, when Bombard Arbalests was still a thing.

@anotherhumanbeing7078 3 жыл бұрын

Vipey! Vipey! I am dying... :D 15:52

@ia5131 3 жыл бұрын

Hi I'm from Korea, and I started playing AOE2 last week! I've been watching your KZfaq videos for like a month, and finally I decided to play this game, not only watch it :D This game needs several different strategies and good mechanics, so it's very very tough to learn. Watching your videos helped me a lot, I wanna thank you!! I wanna see more videos like this, in which pro players show insane strategies and skills!

@Last_March_of_the_Gents 3 жыл бұрын

If you are learning I highly recommend spirit of the laws videos. He breaks down everything about the game

@JCDenton2012Modder 3 жыл бұрын

Tau combat strategy, "That's a pretty army you got there... good luck getting close enough to use it."

@guillermococofrito9196 3 жыл бұрын

The imperium will sacrifice billions to do it if necessary. Even if it not necessary.

@zacharytaylor2423 3 жыл бұрын

I like how you uploaded this the same day they announced an obsidian arrows nerf. No longer does double damage against the stone armor class.

@limechicken955 3 жыл бұрын

11 shots of this army took down the castle...

@kalvin1608 3 жыл бұрын

If my castles died to archers i'd instantly resign!!

@raxorlp9932 3 жыл бұрын

becaus its stupid af :D

@Bullshlaha 3 жыл бұрын

VIPY, VIPY, IM DYING!

@gwfarmer1321 3 жыл бұрын

im so glad this video was recommended to me I use to watch these all the time then they just went away for me.

@MTGHunter 3 жыл бұрын

Arb go brrrr

@Minimeister317 3 жыл бұрын

Was amazing to watch Viper melt those walls, but with the november update, obsidian arrows nolonger grants bonus damage towards walls, towers and gates.

@PaEldorado 3 жыл бұрын

Already having seen the video from Nilis perspective makes T90s cast even better ^^

@OhSayWhatIsTruth 3 жыл бұрын

This game reminds me of the Gastraphetes unit in Age of Mythology. So fun to destroy buildings with those guys

@tomaszsmol3920 3 жыл бұрын

this was so fun to watch

@CockatooDude 3 жыл бұрын

Damn Viper and Mbl out here playing with the 9x tech mod lol.

@gonzalotoscano3310 3 жыл бұрын

T90 we believe in you and Daniel, even if you dont win it will be a good game to watch, good luck and have fun ^^

@davidherring6835 3 жыл бұрын

18:32 at this point we say "no do prdele" in Czechia. Very similar to "Oh shit"...

3 жыл бұрын

15:43 Starfox 64 references, AMAZING!

@LilGamingYes 3 жыл бұрын

23:15 the very thin dark green line... Don't diss the holy ram!

@varunmanjunath9123 3 жыл бұрын

@ajinkyachadha 2 жыл бұрын

I love how viper was 2 vs 1 and then he 1 vs 2. Absolute.

@SuperJamSports 3 жыл бұрын

This was epic. I watched it twice!

@ImInLoveWithBulla 3 жыл бұрын

Talking about the Norway troll when someone chose yellow in a game against Viper.

@Augustus_Imperator 3 жыл бұрын

Now, this was wild

@ImperialBudderz 3 жыл бұрын

always wanted to see saracen and mayan team bonus work in this way

@MALEMization 3 жыл бұрын

Spirit of the Law maybe regretting his words about Saracens now!

@juonryu2nd 3 жыл бұрын

This is oddly satisfying to watch

@kcapt96 3 жыл бұрын

Broken strat but well played from the chezch brothers.

@hippasusofmetapontum6447 3 жыл бұрын

I forgot how much I miss this overlay.

@acefreak9561 3 жыл бұрын

Pros using noob strats with extra steps aaaaa i love it

@JohnCVAjr 3 жыл бұрын

finally a good game to watch!

@ashleyd9310 3 жыл бұрын

RIP obsidian arrows

@nicklopez3461 3 жыл бұрын

Shit was ruthless.

@behmquentin2197 3 жыл бұрын

i was here, that was marvelous to watch

@brammiddelkamp1861 3 жыл бұрын

So nice that you think it will go into late game where the opponent can make camel archers xD

@lib-center96 3 жыл бұрын

21:55 Nope, Viper still managed to win in the Arbs v Knights battle in the South

@emilioterral8304 3 жыл бұрын

"I wish I was as good as my brother" I only play with my brothers....

@ekimoleksander6068 3 жыл бұрын

Holly shit that was nuts

@brokentombot 3 жыл бұрын

Arbalesters take out a castle? I smell OP on that.

@zacharyb2723 3 жыл бұрын

Man I thought it would be time for Genitours! since both players can build them, no sling required.

@eoinh8425 3 жыл бұрын

Great fucking game, goddamn. I thought Czech might have gotten the comeback there, but MbL slinging really saved the day. GG

@mateuszszudrawski2045 3 жыл бұрын

Why there's no one uploading full series to YT? Or I.m missing something?

@koltdourden1 3 жыл бұрын

In update 44725 for the Definitive Edition, it was replaced by Hul'che Javelineers. (Just found this)

@koltdourden1 3 жыл бұрын

Plumed Archers do not benefit from Obsidian Arrows. When playing in team games and if the Mayan player has a Saracen ally, it also adds the team bonus of +2 attack bonus against buildings for Archers for a total of +8.

@dasmaverick1063 3 жыл бұрын

Great battle. Just found the channel.

@austinwhiteley339 3 жыл бұрын

We need to see a game the viper vs like 7 noobs it would be an awesome watch!

@pekkalaitinen8769 3 жыл бұрын

those castles are MELTING to arrows wtf

@sandzhao1980 3 жыл бұрын

Archers like Gun !

@TorresFord 2 жыл бұрын

That was an Ass whooping. My key board would be in pieces lol. Viper is the goat

@jackboggs5512 3 жыл бұрын

When you were saying “looking at vipers eco” I was like t90, we are looking at blue we can’t look at vipers eco. Little did I pay attention to the fact that viper was not on his yellow!

@amosdraak3536 3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@JSTM2000 3 жыл бұрын

Very convenient timing as they just halved the effectiveness of obsidian arrows vs stone walls/towers (not castles though I believe). It's still going to melt stuff though, but just a bit slower.

@IceWraith101 3 жыл бұрын

I mean...... if you have 60 arbs with it its only ognna give you liek 2-3 seconds extra. That just helps against the early early push with it.

@TheGstein 3 жыл бұрын

I think they needed to break down the walls of MBL with the knights after the failed tower push and put the first castle onto a TC to make their castle push about 2-3 minutes faster. They were only about 2 minutes slow on almost killing MBL

@ChocolateMilkCultLeader 3 жыл бұрын

The Czechs played a tight game

@maurizioblotta7189 3 жыл бұрын

RIP this strategy Obsidian Arrow just got nerfed

@mathiasvilen2569 3 жыл бұрын

Ridiculous game indeed!! and now I think I'm gonna play mayans and destroy with arbs. Problem is I forget how talented team Norway are. Thanks for entertaining t90!!

@carbon1255 3 жыл бұрын

And they just patched oby arrows xD

@ImInLoveWithBulla 3 жыл бұрын

AOE logic: glass arrows do extra damage against wood and stone buildings.

@artymclabin8584 3 жыл бұрын

obsidian is not glass. obsidian is actually a rock harder than steel

@brohvakiindova4452 3 жыл бұрын

@@artymclabin8584 the logical error is probably more in that obsidian is really hard to shape correctly, I highly doubt you could have made arrow tips better than steel just because you probably couldn't get it as thin and "pointy" without getting brittle

@artruisjoew5473 3 жыл бұрын

@@artymclabin8584 and a lot more brittle than steel. if you hit steel with obsedian with enough force, the steel will bend while the obsedian will shatter.

@ImInLoveWithBulla 3 жыл бұрын

@@artymclabin8584 obsidian is volcanic glass. And it’s very brittle.

@ImInLoveWithBulla 3 жыл бұрын

@@brohvakiindova4452 if they made obsidian arrows a dark age upgrade that gave huge damage to units with no armor upgrades, but then suffered a big drop-off against buildings and armored units, it would have opened up a whole new bag of opportunities.

@AlekseiGriffin 3 жыл бұрын

Biggest problem generally in AoE2 are how strong arbalest line is. This is just its most sickenign form.

@RusskiBlusski 3 жыл бұрын

Viper with the Bombard Arbalest 11

@guillermococofrito9196 3 жыл бұрын

All that heavy cavalry massacred at 21:34 was painful to watch

@filmsfromthepoor 3 жыл бұрын

You have to cast some of the battle Royal modes

@samhoare1334 3 жыл бұрын

The link to the full best of 5 not working for anyone else?

@ignacionadeo1306 3 жыл бұрын

Hm, Yezris might've looked like he had the upper hand at times, when he was sweeping Viper's arbs with his Cav, but the problem was that in terms of army cost, Viper was losing way cheaper units that he could easily afford to replace by stealing MBL's hard earned resources, while Yezris had no ally to fall back to and his losses were more expensive than Viper's. Adding siege would've been prohibitively expensive, on top of that.

@AntiMatter930 3 жыл бұрын

I always get destroyed in age, but even more so when playing arena. What population do you need to fast castle? I end up with an enemy castle (or 2) outside my walls before I even have a barracks built

@shutout951 3 жыл бұрын

You should have 27 vills when you click feudal then 29 when you click castle.

@PixXx31 3 жыл бұрын

holy fuck I've never seen arbs take a castle down in that time!

@krazykid1428 3 жыл бұрын

Link to full best of 5 says private video?

@SebHaarfagre 3 жыл бұрын

They should had mixed in 4-5 Onagers with the cav. Either that OR Send 15-20 cav to MBL as you said ("or" because there would be too little cav in main group to do both)

@ADCFproductions 3 жыл бұрын

can't believe they didn't take advantage of the elite genitours the berbers have, both civs could have make them! they're very very good against arbs.

@GuilhermeMiranda89 3 жыл бұрын

@@ADCFproductions Impossible, you just don't have time to adapt that. To make Elite Genitours you have to transition... make archers upgrades, make at least 5 or 6 archery camps, make the upgrade... that would cost at least 5 to 10 minutes. In 5 minutes the game was done.

@KurtwithKnives 3 жыл бұрын

2v2 Convo with my brother the other day - Me: I'm going Mayans, bro Bro: Should i go Celts for fast siege? Me: I'M GOING MAYANS! Bro: So pick berries and tower, got it

@General_Xrex 3 жыл бұрын

hahahaha imagine in medivial century arbalest shooting down a castle faster then rams :D

@stefan85300 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a mod for graphics for buildings. Not seen the castles fall down like that before

@dudeguy9943 3 жыл бұрын

this is age of empires 2 DE edition .. not HD in DE they aded new animations for buildings being destroyed

@RoTz0101 3 жыл бұрын

20:29 Viper missplay, he left a lot of the arbalest AFK next to the trees. Otherwise he would've probably won that fight

@FrenchiKO 3 жыл бұрын

AYE AYE CAPTAIN

@dolanduck978 3 жыл бұрын

Česko do toho! 🥳

@herptyderp4927 3 жыл бұрын

Next round should add on two under 900 players against MBL and Viper

@karanpreet1992 3 жыл бұрын

Viper MBL way too OP

@alexd4102 3 жыл бұрын

You might think it's OP but it's just good strategy. Norway had green focus on eco, and blue focus on military. That way, there's less macro to worry about and it evens out.

@wintrparkgrl 3 жыл бұрын

Berbers are my fave civ that I can't win consistently

@mrbongosfl 2 жыл бұрын

23 seconds in and he already climaxed 🤣🤣

@taylornoles6528 3 жыл бұрын

This is a classic Viper troll turned up to 11 with MBLs help

@ggg21201 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like if there was Paladins they just make a few Pikes and it's whatever. A mix of skirms and various siege however I think would work. Siege provide the offense that skirms lack. Saracens lack Cavalier and Mayans EW would take time to get to and cost a lot of gold, so it won't be easy for them to counter Skirm + Siege.

@nostalgicdouchebag1912 3 жыл бұрын

The problem is by the time they get to paladin, viper would be inside their base and everything would be dead

@ADCFproductions 3 жыл бұрын

genitours!!!