I've thought this for a while, it would probably help

Then but what does a bot or algorythm do with the accusation of "suspicious" it would now know you think sumthing is suspect but it wouldn't know why or what the reason was. System needs factual feedback . In indeffinate yes or no answers . When teaching this anticheat you can't tell it that 2+2 =4 and then tell it .. Well sometimes it's not 4 ... So how does the ai know when 2+2 really does = 4 if your teaching it data that contradicts that fact . There can be no verdict givin as anything even remotely close factual and justified if the answer can be "maybe" . What does a verdict of maybe get anyone? Not really anything. .. It needs fact or fiction to keep learning

Tom Shufeldt Thats exactly what AI (or Neural Networks) are for. They figure out why something is suspicious on their own. Thats the whole point of this technology...

Then why would it need help from humans telling it data that it can't do much with . It's better off figuring it out on its own them trying to decipher opinions of players that could be either from inexperienced sources of somon e just intentionally telling it miss information. It learns faster with he's or no answers then it does with maybes... That's why it you can't be sure 100% on overreach then you Mark the result as not enough evidence to convict. The system will figure out from there . The system knows what can and can't be done in game . It doesn't need maybes.

Btw OW bans are different than vac bans . VAC Bans are not mistakes and cannot be reversed because they don't screw up. I think there has been like 10 total reversed vac bans in the history of vac bans.. They are normally 100% fullproof

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@@ikevermander1325 definitely a ghost. Or warowl is hiding from us his telekinetic powers.

That definitely was his pet owl doin all his stuff for him

aimbot

flobb91 so what’s this songs name?

Idk but its german

The song is vw by mein kleiner

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@@dzikidziad of course his name is hans lol

33shin33 I agree

Yep me too

Probably some kid whose parents pulled the plug.

Agreed - plus, the point of OW isn't necessarily to outright get cheaters banned, it's more geared towards training the algorithm to properly detect hackers. I think warowl made the right call

mayby he got a disconnect... i know those too good... man... with ma old internet i had games with ping 999 the whole time... couldnt do anything

Nobody Talking About May 2018 WHEN VACNET COME TO TEAM FORTRESS 2 ? ! +1

The kid is bunnyhopping all the way from ivy, out middle and through our connector like a speed demon

Nobody Talking About May 2018 WHEN VACNET COME TO TEAM FORTRESS 2 ? ! +1

Ian Davison, you shouldnt get banned for losing internet connection MID game.

Ian Davison You’re dumb, if they have perfectly okay internet going into the game and lag MID GAME, IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT

@@iandavison1199 so your saying that if you live far from a server and can't afford good internet you should get banned, maybe think about what it's like to not be a spoiled kid and get your head out of your ass

@@jayd2290 not everyone is spoiled kid? What does that have anything to do with this? I upgraded my internet plan and bought new VDSL2 router instead of my old which started to struggle after years of use. What does being spoiled have anything to do with this? You mean lazy person who doesnt work?

@@symix. Because most players are teens and probably don't have a job to improve their internet, or maybe their parents just don't want to, hence the guy calling him a spoiled kid. And what you have just said is the reason why Jay D even got to that point; not everyone has a stable internet connection.

still probs banned.

should still get couple of hours ban

Could say he already did his part and some real life thing got him at the end before he could finish the last round.

Thanks, I thought about hiring an editor to increase my upload frequency, but I don't think the videos would be the same... I feel like the heart of the videos is in the editing.

TheWarOwl I think you're right, the editing make your video really good

A professional editor would notice and appreciate that of your editing style, incorporate it and compliment it. It's still a good idea as long as you find the right editor

What if you hire a content creator and do the editing yourself instead? XD

Nope, it's definitely the chair. The chair is the star here.

They have patched several glitches and exploits hours after WarOwl's videos went live so....yeah you're right

VikingPotatoes they must dig the music

Nihilistic Depths valve doesn’t make money that way so FeelsBadMan

Yeah why ban him and his inventory...

So you're saying.... his other videos suck?

Especially the Green Hill Zone Sound during the first case. That was On-Point.

so does that mean all other videos suck?

Twatical lol classic CS community

Do overwatch cases accurately and your trust factor will probably go up as a result.

same happened to me except it was a bunch of kids in flying scoutsman who couldn't accept they lost (also in wingman but I made a 6 year old cry in flying scoutsman so it was probably that)

Why do people even call them out? Omg wallhack reported. What does that gonna do? If Im a cheater im jist gonna keep cheating since you already reported me

At that age they shouldn't even play a game with shooting and terrorists and stuff.

even that face confirms it

Hey It's Me!! OverwatchOwl

OwO whats this

Stay away from the ganja man

OverwatchWarOwl = OwO

Must be joking right ?

Hey, someone who also like the noir style OW vid

tf

It was a nice touch

Hab mich weggeschmissen :,D

Also means that the lowest of the low cheaters like literally hiding their walls so well would never get caught

Haha I told myself the same thing ! We want names !

yeah? that german car song anyone know the name of it?

Mein kleiner VW - Hans

From Wolfenstein!

im german that was unexoected as fuck :o

I actually love the fact that Wingman was known as the officiall Hack vs Hack server until they implemented Overwatch for Wingman, probably a person who didnt even know that there are now cases for wingman

Nah being weeb is still worse

Oh shit. Burn of da year. And its Mr. AnimeFag to u

What's the name?

Feels kinda out of place when you understand the lyrics.

Hans - Mein kleiner VW It's a promotion song for Wolfenstein: The New Order

ich bin deutscher so sind wir nun mal druff

It's part of a fake record label called Neumond Records. It's part of the soundtrack for the game Wolfenstein: The New Order, where the producers tried to make alternate reality versions of many classic songs. Basicly how they would have sounded in case the nazis won the war as is the case in the game. The song is called "Mein kleiner VW".

Tewan ye you are right he probably got busy or something it's a dick move to even think of banning him really

Or maybe it was just his internet that pooped out but the game thought he was connected for a while?

Lukas G Or tried to shut down a download or trying to fix lag ?

I am a Voluntary firefighter if i get a call i would leave cs:go running too.

I wouldn't for sure, i just ban for grief only who kill the bot to take the negev and destroying his silver mate's dreams

Skynet taking over his systems. It proves he is the First Terminator

Now, I've been smurfing around low silver ranks purely for fun but came across cheaters. Wrecked them so badly they actually accused ME of cheating and rage quit the match. That felt pretty fucking hilarious.

@@mikekrzych There are always people that are sus, because it is hard to decide wehter they are cheating or just good. Those silvers must've been so bad, to them you looked sus. See it as a compliment, you played so well, you went past what they thought was humanly possible.

this is the kind of positivity I like to see. WarOwl, thanks for helping build this kind of community.

pine Cool story, much grammar, wow. Try using capital letters and dots/commas and 1 day mr.WarOwl might read your comment for once. 😅

im not bothered if he reads it or not im just saying at anyone that cares and you replied and so you clearly cared enough to say something also fuck off with the emoji what are you 12?

and wtf is a "dot"

bartterp88 you just unironically used the "doge meme" in 2018. How do you feel?

pine Wowow you guys fired hard towards me huh. Can't share a tip nowadays on the internet anymore or you will get a shitload of hate... Trying to let me feel bad about myself. Luckily I've not been called a nazi yet. And emojis are suddenly not allowed on the youtube? Sorry my bad. I didn't know the exact YT comments code of 2018 man. Since when are emojis for 12 year olds only btw? Because all my friends and family are still using them. And they are atleast at the age of 25. I'm 29. So you know.

Or your aimlock shots

oh i almost MISSED IT

Are you boltz?

i think the last part was recorded after the game was recorded

NicoO0Oo1 look mom, no hands

Looks like 2 rounds on the map. 3-3 to 3-5 Maybe they just reported him or maybe they kicked him. How long is a clip?

Gordon Freeman i feel you bro that thing is cancer

Sine Metu It will put their new accounts in low trust games anyway

Sine Metu ii

Sooner or later they will start banning people based on VACNet but not yet. If there's even a 0.01% chance that a wrong person gets banned, that's stil 1 out of 10000 (thanks David!) gets banned innocent and that's way too much. For a company like Valve any false-positive ban is close to inacceptable. I'm pretty sure they will start rolling out auto-ban based on confidence. Like if VACNet is 99,999% sure it's a cheater, they can pretty safely ban. Everyhing below will go to overwatch. But confidence and precision will increase over time, thats how neural networks learn. Give it more stuff to learn and it'll do its job better and better.

0.01% is 1 out of 10,000, not 1000.

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MsG cheater instantly report all thst legits allways play agains cheater

me too

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Search phoon on YT it's just 1 video left of him... 😢😢😢😢

That montage video of phoon bunnyhopping his way on some ludicrous flanks and connector rushes was one of the funniest things to come out of the CS:Source community. The frag clips were insane, and the (understandable) rage from his opponents was hilarious. "Admin! He's doing it sideways!" became an instant CS meme. Then, (arguably in response to that video) Valve patched out the exploit that made extended bunnyhopping reliably achievable without hacks. On the one hand, I was sad to see it go. It was a blast. On the other hand, patching that exploit lowered the skill floor and learning curve of CS, making it easier for the newbies coming into the player base - and ultimately making for a healthier player base overall.

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I disagree, patching the insanity of bhopping in source when GO was released increased the learning curve. Bhopping is still very possible, it's just harder, and doesn't have the same payout. In source, if you were good enough at it, you could move at speeds that would give you an unfair advantage. Obviously most of the bhop montages from source were using a script, most montages from CS1.6 and source had some sort of external assistance. Every single pro player in 1.6 would cheat when they weren't at a lan event. Reducing the speed a bhop can reach is one of the best decisions valve has made with the game in terms of competitive gameplay. Too much for zblock is great though.

lmao

I hope he'll be back

tldr: i think the new vac just unloads some overwatch time from reviewers but doesn't help with subtle cheaters still this won't solve the problem of subtle cheating which imho is even worse because of its ability to affect everything from mm to the pro scene. there is only hope but no evidence that this system can go from identifying obvious aim botters to identifying radar hackers or whatever. right now all it is doing is reducing the number of human review time on clear overwatch cases by using machine learning to boost 'low-hanging fruit' cases to a minimal number of human reviewers with good ratings but will regular feedback of human-labeled data into the model improve accuracy over time and eventually detect subtle cheats? or will it just be a nice tool for vac to have, simply because you don't really have to update any code in your model when cheats change or new cheats come out. the problem i see is that since the certainty level for banning someone in overwatch is not changing, humans previously spending time on banning obvious cheaters will waste time reviewing subtle cheaters they cannot ban for certain. hopefully valve has something up their sleeve and is serious about the pro scene.

During the presentation he said they want to focus on aimbots exclusively because of this: For deep learning to work you need to have recurring patterns: you have a starting point and a "final product" and deep learning tells you what's in between at the condition that you have lots of examples. This is not quite doable with WallHacks because most of the time there isn't even a starting point or a "final product" because you can use your WallHacks at anytime meanwhile an aimbot will be triggered when shooting which is easy to identify. BTW It's important to note that this VACNET thing is NOT directly related to VAC (other than the fact that it's an Anti Cheat made by Valve) and it CANNOT ban people by itself (yet) because Valve wants to make absolutely sure only cheaters are banned from their game. IMO the most obvious way to make it better RN and eventually capable of banning people autonomously is to record demos with higher tickrates (current demo tickrate is 32) but that would require A LOT more processing power (to record and scan the demos) which is quite expensive and power consuming etc...

VAC is wacc And its bacc

Lol same I have a touchscreen HP pavilion laptop

wasnt that obvious?

It’s a common cs meme lol

Yeah, that's a classic meme

technically it wasnt even sideways

Thé à la Menthe just started playing in my mind.

I feel so bad cause even thou i dont play cs my user for a lot of games is blackbird lol

Probably predicts the position of the crosshair on an enemy behind some wall (and the amount of time it was near a player). It probably learned how to spot them via playtesters but then again, it probably mistaken some.

Mein kleiner vw, hans (wolfenstein)

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It can, I think you might be misunderstanding how vacnet works. Basically it watches all the matchmaking games, decides based on an algorithm if it thinks a guy is hacking, and if it meets that criteria it sends it off to overwatch. players then watch and decide if the guy was hacking or not using overwatch, and vacnet uses those results to correct the algorithm. the goal is to increase the amount of hackers sent to overwatch and reduce the desire to ragehack. Now its not a case of "oh my hack got found out, gotta wait for update or use something else" instead its "oh crap vacnet just caught my private cheat with the anti-report feature somehow, and then i tried to use a new one and that got caught too. i guess i can't do it anymore". However it only works for blatant hacks and is hopefully step-1 to an unobtrusive and effective anti-cheat system. at the moment, vac itself just isn't effective enough.

Yeah, I 100% understand how VACnet works, but I also 100% do not believe it would be that hard to track automation so clear and consistent as spinbotters have. Do you understand what I'm saying?

I'm sure your point here is that VACnet may do something similar to what I'm asking about in order to determine a likely candidate for overwatch, however, my suggestion is that clearly automated mouse movement (of the consistent spinbot variety vs the Flusha mouse lifting type movements even) should be Easily detectable.

LegacyFTW it is. Hence why they go to Overwatch. If you're wondering why vac net doesn't just instantly ban them, that's because machines may make a mistake but humans can check just in case. If it wasn't detected by vac, but was by vac net, it has to go to Overwatch first because vacnet is constantly in development and only knows spin botting is bad because when they send them to Overwatch they get convicted.

VACnet will catch a lot more than just spinbotting, it can catch any aimlocks and "Faster than human reaction times". However it's based upon 140 frags per user and is a statistical value, so if the cheater only occasionally uses the cheat they may be able to dodge the system.

lol

HvH nospread was the most fun i had in csgo

it doesn't fall under the definition of griefing as stated in the results panel. griefing is for spinning in spawn and teamkilling, etc. - there are lighter bans for those caught griefing

FryTV true, but they are gonna get baned anyways😊

Incorrect choices lower your overwatch rating, meaning that your decisions aren't valued as highly.

Read the description of griefing provided in Overwatch: if you think that cheating isn't "disruptive, anti-competitive, and anti-social", well, then I don't know what cheats are. I believe that I'm in the right when I'm reporting cheaters for griefing as well as for cheats.

The point is that the majority of Overwatch reviewers share the view that griefing is for actions other than cheating, such as team-killing, repetitively flashing teammates, blocking teammates, and the like. Regardless of how you interpret the description, the difference between your responses and the responses of the majority of reviewers will count against you when determining how much to value your responses.

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