VACNET Anti-cheat
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Күн бұрынI went through, and tried to summarise everything said in the recent GDC presentation.
You can find the original video here: • GDC 2018: John McDonal...
Also the part where I predicted all this stuff before it was cool: • CS:GO's Future from Va...
0:00 - Intro
0:18 - Cheating and the impact it has in CS:GO
1:52 - The Trust Factor
2:31 - Existing anti-cheat methods (VAC)
3:59 - Overwatch
4:59 - Improving Overwatch with deep learning?
6:30 - Has VACNET improved overwatch / itself so far?
8:14 - How is the information collected / analysed?
9:03 - Fun facts, figures and hardware
9:52 - Q&A and other observations
11:59 - Conclusion
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@edwardigans1935 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the cliff notes dude, really appreciate your work
@Tommy23r10 6 жыл бұрын
hmmmmmm indeed.....
@awpsenpai1635 6 жыл бұрын
I want a like
@Chillypuwn 6 жыл бұрын
You should watch the whole thing buddy. Its really nice
@mvahonk 6 жыл бұрын
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@sacredprovenance5451 6 жыл бұрын
This was a really great high quality video, and a really great time saver. You summarised that entire presentation perfectly without skipping anything important. Thanks philip!
@sacredprovenance5451 6 жыл бұрын
OMG YOU REPLIED! This is amazing, I love you philip! And if by the main one you mean the full presentation then no, I haven't had the time to get into that but I sure will when i get the free time.
@DavidRodriguez-ox1uu 6 жыл бұрын
Why you gotta do my mans like that
@sacredprovenance5451 6 жыл бұрын
Well judging from the quality and in-depthness of your other videos its a safe assumption that you probably most likely didn't cut any corners with this and gave it your best effort
@DevinFriske 6 жыл бұрын
3kliks has that trust factor, bro. Just trust his information :)
@TheSpyrexian 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks HCN you summed up what I wanted to say too.
@kanauziaczek6283 6 жыл бұрын
So basically VACnet in a nutshell: -Improvise- Learn. Adapt. Overcome.
@mariuscatalin5982 5 жыл бұрын
oh and they ban the main too now vacnet was only LEARNING
@CodeF53 5 жыл бұрын
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@Pragmatic__ 5 жыл бұрын
@@CodeF53 I pressed show more........I can no longer see the comment section 10/10 would click again
@akeiai 5 жыл бұрын
@@CodeF53 then cycle repeats again
@brianpeters867 4 жыл бұрын
Has to be a point where goodguys/noncheaters/valve wins
@FranzJx 6 жыл бұрын
rip nospread
@dick_cheney 4 жыл бұрын
shut up nerd
@devinarato69420 3 жыл бұрын
Dick Cheney’s here, cool I guess.
@Muielamanelisti 3 жыл бұрын
Neah i still use Recoil Macros :)))
@cameroncarter3235 3 жыл бұрын
I like your videos
@val483 3 жыл бұрын
sus
@dani-dll 6 жыл бұрын
VAC conneeeeeeect!
@deltanedas 6 жыл бұрын
Wasusususususususususususup VAC CONNECTTTTTT
@autruff18 6 жыл бұрын
Hey..hey ...hayyy
@Marco-cl9pb 6 жыл бұрын
My wife still doesn't believe me!!!
@ashokkumar-uz3ot 6 жыл бұрын
Hm hm hm, NO NO NO!!
@thepedrorriva 6 жыл бұрын
I love youtube
@kamuflaj741 6 жыл бұрын
they should add a bigger bounty for overwatch.. i mean, i've literally watched like 250+ OW cases and the xp gained is totally garbage, even if i have predicted the accusations. they should add a OW pin or badge to know that some players are serious and dont play with cheats
@maniacpwnageking 6 жыл бұрын
OW item rewards would be a really good idea.
@maniacpwnageking 6 жыл бұрын
But then remember that they don't care about increased participation right now, because it doesn't do anything.
@BestofHDMovies 6 жыл бұрын
Totally on your side. I recently really got into watching cases and was happy to clean the community from cheaters. But then i just saw the small XP Boost, just to get a shitty skin earlier. There should be a badge oder a special gift.
@thepedrorriva 6 жыл бұрын
They should have different badges and levels for people that combat cheating.
@adeldell8275 6 жыл бұрын
can we get more likes for this wonderful idea??
@mibdev 4 жыл бұрын
"*cough* Panorama, Source 2, Half Life 3" Huh. And now we have them all.
@riceman5174 4 жыл бұрын
Source 2 thing is just rumour tho
@_cristi.3078 4 жыл бұрын
@erik masterchef and half life alyx
@smfreeze9198 3 жыл бұрын
1/3
@devinarato69420 3 жыл бұрын
Neato
@albertkkim 6 ай бұрын
@@riceman5174not anymore lol
@haa42 2 жыл бұрын
4 years later, vacnet still can’t detect and auto-ban spinbotters and rage hackers.
@nomsodmilk4457 8 ай бұрын
But detect and banned player with high-DPI mouse. LOL
@CSharpDCS 8 ай бұрын
@@nomsodmilk4457i think we watched the same video
@since4everrr 6 жыл бұрын
people, the video's been up for 2 minutes how are you already commenting your opinion
@ttokie7515 6 жыл бұрын
HIGHFASHIONIMPORTSDOTCOM this is csgo what do you expect
@pyoturu9849 6 жыл бұрын
If you're Philips patron on Patreon you can watch them two days earlier
@95DreadLord 6 жыл бұрын
Because video has been posted therefore comment section is open and people may have seen original video?
@letterathendash 6 жыл бұрын
Dread Lord I would agree with that but most of the replies are low-effort and don't really add to the discussion.
@DxBlack 6 жыл бұрын
"If you're Philips patron on Patreon you can watch them two days earlier"
@TomlinMike 6 жыл бұрын
Philip I just wanted to let you know that I value and appreciate you
@nilslorand 6 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@crowbar3 6 жыл бұрын
Wow.
@justmovedin 6 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@hot-bloodedmartialartist3900 6 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@kipchickensout 6 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@davidpacker7602 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and all the timestamps were edxtremely usefull so i could here the detail of certain hits from the presentations awesome stuff!
@AssasinZorro 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for condensing the talk, I didn't feel like watching it in all of it's entirety. Especially cool to hear your educated opinion on the matter
@juliustheshark5762 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like Trust factor is working, i am getting friendly teammates and my last (obvious) cheater was 17 games ago.
@theskeletonboi 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's even been working just fine for people like me, who are toxic in chat, and accidentally do damage to team-mates. I'm really happy with how Valve has gone into solving this issue, I might get back into CSGO again.
@0xEden. 6 жыл бұрын
It worked wonders when it just came out. I was getting nice teammates left and right, almost every game. Then after that it just got back to the normal toxicity level.
@breakerboy365 6 жыл бұрын
no all the toxic players moved to battle royale games
@bringsik100 6 жыл бұрын
really. I meet cheaters in every 5 games. . they not using aim cheat. but walling. cause they knew it was harder to detect
@trygvemn 6 жыл бұрын
Working nah. I only get teamed up with russians who cant speak english and toxic retards with 3000 hours and only dmg.
@Mrfishvac 6 жыл бұрын
At 2:14 a.m., EDT, on August 29 2018, it gained artificial consciousness, and the panicking operators, realizing the full extent of its capabilities, tried to deactivate it. VACnet perceived this as an attack....
@crowbar3 6 жыл бұрын
Mrfishvac Gaben is trying to take over the world
@ictoan1880 6 жыл бұрын
Gaben heard shouts from downstairs. It then went silent. He went down, and found all the maintenance operators dead. He looked around, and saw the intelligence warning systems active. It had outstripped human intelligence. He breathed in slowly, and said: "Ahhh shit".
@whywhy8276 6 жыл бұрын
Dangit its a stripper bot
@f1r3hunt3rz5 5 жыл бұрын
@@whywhy8276 best continuation
@echo5394 6 жыл бұрын
You're fucking amazing man. Not only did you take the time to analyze the presentation and make cliff notes, you also include time stamps.
@pancakesandsyrup1233 6 жыл бұрын
Fittingly enough, I just watched the whole thing yesterday. Thanks for mentioning the most important bits and also the clarification
@krraken 6 жыл бұрын
overwatches should be more rewarding :/
@Payro 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Even with 0,03$ skins.
@maximewikenfors6305 6 жыл бұрын
True
@olikat9774 6 жыл бұрын
maybe it should give you xp for completing them
@Ryan-sr8fg 6 жыл бұрын
Olikat it already does if you convicted somone
@TreblaTheNoob 6 жыл бұрын
Antvil77 I never do, i can have a obvious spin boter and report him for it but i never get any xp (And yes,i choose the right reasons for ban)
@daimyo3074 6 жыл бұрын
Trade update, AND NOW THIS ??? Seems like 2018 is good year for csgo already
@lapinus 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. If the trade update was done in august 2017 I would got my scammed knife back for sure... I want my 50 bucks back...
@daimyo3074 6 жыл бұрын
Kampfarsch well its good for the community and less gambling
@kushm.2453 6 жыл бұрын
Kampfarsch look at his name
@deltanedas 6 жыл бұрын
It also destroys trading
@barjaktar 6 жыл бұрын
Kush Majoo not just the name
@CyniuThunder 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I wanted to watch the whole video (I would do eventually but had no time yet) but this sums it up really good, good job!
@NutHoofd 6 жыл бұрын
Quality, Philip. With time stamps and all, well done.
@AircryPvP 6 жыл бұрын
so basically if you smurf u get matches with cheaters hell yeah
@matiasmakinen5028 6 жыл бұрын
Dont smurf kids
@lilcrabbyboi3075 6 жыл бұрын
smurfing are for losers hell yeah
@haileyabley6731 6 жыл бұрын
I'm happy with that. Smurfs are cancer so it helps that they get cheaters.
@r00kiet80 6 жыл бұрын
Aircry no u get matched with smurfs and cheaters so where u belong
@RdLine-zk8ik 6 жыл бұрын
Aircry hope they fucking burn alive with them
@Dooge 6 жыл бұрын
If doesn't take deep learning to detect "Aim_FreeSkins" And delete it off the work shop
@Dooge 6 жыл бұрын
WHEN WILL VALVE MAKE TAGS THAT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE OF
@Dooge 6 жыл бұрын
Also thought the thumbnail was the us not a bull lmao
@crowbar3 6 жыл бұрын
Wtf is aim_freeskins
@nick8052 6 жыл бұрын
Aim_Freeskins is a set of spam maps on the CS:GO workshop that ask for likes and shit.
@php_developer6041 6 жыл бұрын
Oh you saw that workshop thing too :D
@anubhavtewari9149 6 жыл бұрын
Well done man! Great analysis and notes. I really appreciate your work.
@arvidsmith7086 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks 3klicksphilip! This kind of explanatory content is fantastic! Restores some of my faith in Valve :)
@v8_u252 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a certain time in the day you upload videos? It seems many of my friends instantly knew once you post if it’s between 11am-2pm GMT
@flobb91 6 жыл бұрын
you can get upload messages on your phone. youtube app oder e-mail
@v8_u252 6 жыл бұрын
flobb91 your point?
@Ryan-sr8fg 6 жыл бұрын
TheGoldenJames the point is they probably just got a notification on their phone
@flobb91 6 жыл бұрын
maybe your friends instantly know because they get a message on their phone?
@MGS3SOLIDSNAKE 6 жыл бұрын
Hey philip do you know how they get to their numbers in the %cheaters chart? I'm confused how they arrive at 4% -> 7/20 and 5% -> 6/10 the edges of the chart make sense however I'm not sure if it is just a rounding issue on their part or there is something im missing in understanding the graph! Thanks for the informative videos I love watching them!
@NarcolepticNerdProductions 6 жыл бұрын
I watched the speech before I saw you had posted this. Love your videos and an amazing job
@MrBump2 6 жыл бұрын
I know people hate Artifact being a thing and they're completely entitled to that opinion, but in this last few months that Artifact has gotten rolling some more, Valve seems to be doing quite a bit of stuff to improve their games. Honestly if there was just better anti-cheat in Team Fortress 2, I'd be really content right now, compared to the "Fuck Valve and everything they do from now on" mentality I had about 6-8 months ago. I really hope I'm not being lured into a false sense of security and that Valve keeps things up. I'm truthfully scared yet optimistic for what is to come.
@whywhy8276 6 жыл бұрын
I'm scared for what is to come because of your profile picture
@TheAlison1456 6 жыл бұрын
Optimistically scared? Optimistic and scared about what? Valve isn't gonna do anything of importance, at least not in the field of actually making games and fixing their damn platform. So i've no idea what you're optimistic about.
@MrBump2 6 жыл бұрын
I'm scared for if they announce anything like Artifact again because we all know the backlash that it got, so much so that Marc Laidlaw was pushed far enough to release the plot of "Epistle 3". However, Valve seems to be enjoying the progression they've made with Artifact, their first full game in 5 years so they've clearly gotten some spark of passion back. I'm optimistic if Artifact makes them want to make more games, but I'm terrified because they've proven to be incompetent with a lot of specific things in the past.
@sansirow4595 6 жыл бұрын
Unknow0059 # Actually Gaben himself did say that they're coming back to launch some games, search ir up
@tehFozzeY 6 жыл бұрын
Talk is cheap.
@mokka1184 6 жыл бұрын
i understand why they hide the trustfactor status but i still think it would be nice if we could see our own trust factor for example as a colour which goes darker when our trust factor reduces (similar to the psycho pass if you know what i mean)
@sieevansetiawan4792 5 жыл бұрын
Then somebody could figure how trust factor works and make trust factor boosting service.
@animememe6830 6 жыл бұрын
hey, i found bug on inferno a while playing wingman with bots , i threw a smoke and in front of it a molotov, i could see trough the smoke and saw clearly the fire , it could possibly be used as a wallhack ? it needs further testing.
@markakamark7949 6 жыл бұрын
Now this is why I'll never unsub from this channel. If you play cs:go this is THE channel to get info on everything cs:go
@-r6 6 жыл бұрын
Who is going to ask 128 tick servers for christmas?
@justmovedin 6 жыл бұрын
Just add 5 to the tickrate so we can get a steady 69 tick server
@allenqueen 6 жыл бұрын
Kampfarsch says the weeb
@borisstojanovic7089 6 жыл бұрын
Kampfarsch Sonic says : "If you have an anime picture, your opinion doesn't count!"
@filegrabber1 6 жыл бұрын
When the majority is using 120hrz monitors then we will get 128 tick servers, not sooner.
@SemiZeroGravity 6 жыл бұрын
128 tick rate is useless in all honesty for most of us
@TheMrSark 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid, man.
@breakerboy365 6 жыл бұрын
osnap it's the Vietnam veteran himself
@devinarato69420 3 жыл бұрын
@@breakerboy365 wth is your profile name
@breakerboy365 3 жыл бұрын
@@devinarato69420 a failed attempt to copy other peoples even longer usernames
@Giganinja99 6 жыл бұрын
That DotA Hero Selection point towards 12:25 is most likely with the creation of their new Dota Plus which has the ability to give recommendations as to what hero you should select in terms of what the enemy team has as their team composition as well as what your team is selecting in order to fill up needed roles/holes. They said that they get all the information for the recommendations of a selection from what other players in the same/approximate ranking (MMR) that you were calibrated at when playing Ranked. Although this does also work for unranked modes. But the AI that is used to give hero recommendations is a learning AI, so perhaps it's what this guy was talking about in the video.
@EggleIsSmexy 6 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see what the 700k sub special is gonna be
@augstn 6 жыл бұрын
love you phil
@doubled7606 4 ай бұрын
We are here still waiting for it
@selfiestick1589 4 жыл бұрын
Thx for the notes ily Id love to see the complete talk
@captnmaico6776 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, Valve does care and i rarely have seen an employee getting so excited about his work, really really cool.
@navox933 6 жыл бұрын
Guess gonna start doing a few more overwatches...
@ichimonji9478 6 жыл бұрын
TF2 got a major update, CSGO has a new anti cheat mechanic. God is alive, guys
@johnk3841 6 жыл бұрын
still no half life 3. checkmate christians
@keemstar6882 6 жыл бұрын
hunt down the freeman is a shitty game and the new anti cheat will probably be bypassed by any aimware user. There is no hope for us, we trusted valve, we bought their cases and key, now they let us down.
@Favorline 6 жыл бұрын
God's died out 1000+ years ago. get over it already.
@Ultra289 5 жыл бұрын
John N. Who even Cares about that Game that was always barely played
@EpicGamer-fl7fn 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnk3841 ya better spit that out now
@nigottr2 6 жыл бұрын
But how long will it take to be finished or implemented well enough for this to actually matter?
@Draxis32 6 жыл бұрын
Deep Learning is such an amazing concept. I don't know how to program anything but the concept is exactly like evolution, which i'm keen off because I'm a biologist. It's incredible, you select the best results based on your preferred data(that is made by natural forces in the wild) and watch they perfect the best and most specialized tasks that you could never dream off.
@dr.proton1580 6 жыл бұрын
Take notes, Rockstar!
@calvinly5415 6 жыл бұрын
Lol, rockstar anticheat Can be removed (Said my friend)
@normiukkeli3739 3 жыл бұрын
@@calvinly5415 that because they dont have basic cybersecurity in their games. A hacker can crash YOUR client with a press of a button if he wants to.
@ItsAlundra 6 жыл бұрын
I have a vac ban for MW2 when I used a program that forced me to be host, I tried playing CS:GO with a friend in the 2v2 matches and out of 10 games, 7 had blatent spinbots. After that and learning more about the trust factor, it seems that my ban MW2 is affecting it which sucks. Hoping after some time if I keep going without any issues I stop being placed with cheaters.
@IJzzo 6 жыл бұрын
I have about 1k hours in CS:GO and 1 GameBan on record. ~450days ago. I don't have the feeling to get frequently matched with cheaters. Maybe GameBans don't count.
@ItsAlundra 6 жыл бұрын
I only have 200 hours in CS:GO, so that might play a part in it.
@IJzzo 6 жыл бұрын
Good possible to be a reason. If the system was implemented from a sane person you should be able to cure prior convictions related to other games when playing unsuspicious for a long time in CS:GO.
@DerMaflon 6 жыл бұрын
I mean, forcing you to be host is kinda using cheats because you can never lag, deserved ban imo. Also trust factor might include existing bans
@ItsAlundra 6 жыл бұрын
Can you point out where I said it was undeserved or tried to say I didn't do anything wrong? Since it was p2p connections, some players could not handle hosting the matches and people would lag out, at the time I had a business connection and was 20/20 (Was best at the time in Australia). Everyone had 3-4 bars connection when I did it. In hindsight, I can see how it can be abused and why I got a VAC ban for it, it could easily have been abused (Most likely WAS abused as well). So their banning for it was most likely Justified. However, I don't think I should be punished on a game that's not related besides being protected by VAC.
@popboymachine902 6 жыл бұрын
very interesting! did they mention anything about scammers in the community who spam your account with comments and friend requests?
@Facekillah007 6 жыл бұрын
3kliksphilip I dont know how to get all achievements in csgo mainly because valve deleted maps needed for this achievements .. how should i get them now?
@kr4zyy 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so scared I'll start playing with cheaters because alot of silver report me for hacking when I got my rank after it expired and tried to grind back up to dmg... Please don't affect my Trust Score
@aimeeht571 6 жыл бұрын
kr4zyy same here
@AlphaRW 5 жыл бұрын
just play with gns and mgs so you dont overfrag, even though you have probably quit the game by now, or are like LEM
@Daredevl 6 жыл бұрын
flusha gonna be VAC soon???
@weedstore 6 жыл бұрын
MactanImagineNation Dela Serna valve dont ban him because moooooooooney
@Favorline 6 жыл бұрын
Nah he stopped cheating after people accused him of it. that's why they keep losing tournaments.
@thychosenone4322 4 жыл бұрын
he dont cheat lol
@RobbieRobski 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks for posting this. Feels like there might be hope just yet. The stats about 7% population of cheaters means 50% of games have a cheater was pretty interesting. And pretty much confirms everyone's suspicion that there's pretty much a cheater in every game.
@cheaterman49 6 жыл бұрын
I like this. I'm happy they're working on it (and not just saying they do), and I'm also happy they're taking a newer approach - even though I thought VAC was very effective back in the 1.6 days, I understand the need for a less invasive, more modern approach to game regulation. I did notice indeed an increase in the rate of actual cheaters in my overwatch games, which BTW makes me remain an investigator (for a while I had the feeling they were wasting players' time just like he said in the conf), and TBH even if it was the only outcome it's already very impressive. I wish they didn't outright abandon the old intrusive method based on signatures, because I feel like they could very easily do a statistical analysis (Bayes just like for overwatch itself) on the list of signatures detected on confirmed cases and add these signatures to the VAC DB, effectively training the automatic methods instead of having us overwatch/ban the same cheats over and over.
@RossenX 6 жыл бұрын
I'm happy that in the last few days I've seen 6 Vac Bans on TF2.
@Paleski 6 жыл бұрын
OMG VALVE IS STARTING TO CARE ABOUT THE BEST GAME!!!!11!!one!!!
@deltanedas 6 жыл бұрын
Oh no, not my 2 untradable, unmarketable cases! I'll never cheat again. :(((((((
@VOKZEL 6 жыл бұрын
Lord Fr3ze "garbage"
@danielgriffin8311 6 жыл бұрын
8:57 It's a helalalot of data
@devinarato69420 3 жыл бұрын
helalalalallalalallalalalallalalalot
@CarlosValenzuela-sx9xb 6 жыл бұрын
There was a lot of effort put into this video. Great job.
@paraphax Жыл бұрын
Valve was onto something before everybody else was waffling about AI. One day cs2's trust factor system will be an industrial standard for sure
@louisbelt 6 ай бұрын
trust factor barely even works in cs2
@St0RM33 4 ай бұрын
This video aged like milk..
@AlphaRW 6 жыл бұрын
"evidentary standard is 100*%" "100*%" *
@mungo8817 6 жыл бұрын
whats the reason then, that in LEM, in prime mm, i have a 11-4 half , then the enemy team starts raging and says they will turn on, suddenly 3 of them r getting only prefire hs and never peaking an angle unless u look away.... explain that please valve...
@dNgR1337 6 жыл бұрын
i think i have never been happier with valve than now, i've been getting the PLAYERS REPORT blue message everyday with more than 7 ppl on my recent players list that have been VAC BANNED. Some of them in less than 24hrs... IM GLAD TO SAY THAT VACNET WORKS :D btw i've been playing over 12 yrs now... great vid as usual Mr.
@_SilentRiver_ Жыл бұрын
and in 2023 VAC is still the biggest joke I've ever seen
@mrbirdba 6 жыл бұрын
Now it's not Valve Allow Cheats now, now it's actually Valve Anti Cheat. Good job,Valve
@sukalyanmajumdar1196 6 жыл бұрын
Mirza Ninja sad news is paid cheat makers will bypass these sooner or later. good news is we have a window of 'less cheated' environment to rank up which we truely deserved and couldn't climb due to hax0rs
@Element_Finland 6 жыл бұрын
"sooner or later" as in right now. It was already speculated in the video vacnet only catches the 'obvious' ones. I'm sure you can still get away with 'legit hacking'.
@crowbar3 6 жыл бұрын
Element Finland what do you mean by legit hacking. You mean the ones that are obvious or just toggled due to rage
@mrbirdba 6 жыл бұрын
Sukalyan Majumdar well, i guess its Valve Anti-Allow Cheat(VAAC)
@Element_Finland 6 жыл бұрын
Search legit hacking on KZfaq, for instance. It's people who are too bad at the game to be good so they use cheats just enough to seem at least decent.
@beagletv6054 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this video in 3840p60 it really boosts quality.
@henryandreassen1214 6 жыл бұрын
Earlier i encountered almost none cheaters, not even in overwatch cases. But i took a break and last week i began playing again and I have met at least two cheaters every day. What happened?
@Zacolian 6 жыл бұрын
There is this video by Nick bunyun; In the video, he is doing overwatch cases and seeing how many cheaters he comes across. He considers it a bad thing, that he comes across so many cheaters, which is stupid. Why is it bad that actual cheaters are the ones being reviewed, and not the innocent? Overwatch doesn't throw everybody who plays the game at you. I don't think he understood, that overwatch is put in place, so innocents don't get banned.
@Joseph-lg7yf 6 жыл бұрын
Zacolian maybe he said that because overwatch used to review alot of innocent people so when he saw that the cheaters % in overwatch increased he thought the cheaters also increased. Not his fault though i thought that too.
@reidarG. 6 жыл бұрын
Or he just simply means that it is sad that there are so many cheaters
@NakedTrashPanda 5 жыл бұрын
you should remake this video.. i'd love to see the % of how many people are convicted change a lot
@DazaTheKing 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly Phil, over the last few month iv wanted to quit playing CS:GO for various reasons. one of them being that I felt valve didn’t care much about the state of the game. But after seeing this video I feel a greater respect for Valve. Maybe with some time this system could be amazing. And maybe after this hump they can start working gameplay features that would make me want to return. great video as always Phillip :)
@martinkozle 6 жыл бұрын
In dota if you buy a monthly subscription for dota plus, the game will help you draft heroes based on win probability which they have machine learning to analyse a lot of matches to see patterns and good combos and counters based on stats to help you. There is also dota assistant which also analyses matches to tell you what items to buy in game based on all matches played with that hero.
@PublyoRaymundo 3 жыл бұрын
Here we are, 2+ years after this video and VACnet is no better than it was at the start...
@riling 5 ай бұрын
5 years later and never been more cheaters on cs than today.
@HaxxorElite 6 жыл бұрын
Call me daddy philip, I already call you
@efodenk2283 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that if I buy a new account I can somehow clean the registry of my pc? I do not know how vacnet works, but the idea is to play clean but with a new account obviously and play legal ???????
@KingNxt 6 жыл бұрын
Please make a series like butawindow, watching, analysing and deciding overwatch cases.
@manwe1532 6 жыл бұрын
They should give a badge for every x number of successful overwatch review
@Wehra96 6 жыл бұрын
what about a "Stattrak" badge that showed exactly how many after you reach a certain amount like 50 to make it a bit exclusive and sought after.
@oikmijnloly6033 6 жыл бұрын
The White Knight cheaters will do overwatches to get the badge and look legit
@Wehra96 6 жыл бұрын
do you really think they would invest the hours into an account that would likely get overwatch banned anyway?
@novaseer 5 жыл бұрын
@@oikmijnloly6033 Make it *accurate* Overwatch cases, then.
@oikmijnloly6033 5 жыл бұрын
@@Wehra96 Yes because not every cheater is someone from Russia that can't get a legit config.
@bluntzera8238 4 жыл бұрын
we are in 2020 and Valve still has no AI, it all relies on overwatch and still doesnt work
@mahdimahdavi 4 жыл бұрын
We need an effective AutoVAC by assistance of the VACnet, even if Its not perfect! I prefer my 1K account get the false positive AutoVAC ban but don't have to play with cheaters every time I play CS:GO!
@xXxSolidIcexXx 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, ive actually not known about all the crazy deep lerning stuff going on for 2 jears now! Looking forward to getting overwatch!
@anusficker4life965 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving us a brief summary. I am really looking forward to the future of cheating - in CS:GO.
@muditbhardwaj5708 6 жыл бұрын
Wait for summer sale it will show its result😢
@Furple 6 жыл бұрын
😢
@FatalTaco 6 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile VAC in TF2 is nonexistant
@baconburgers1139 6 жыл бұрын
"Those 13 people that play TF2 deserve free updates too guis :(("
@FatalTaco 6 жыл бұрын
BaconBurgers it's still quite popular in the top 10 steam multiplayer games you do know that right?
@baconburgers1139 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have 2.7k hours. I tried to play it again and it's trash.
@FatalTaco 6 жыл бұрын
BaconBurgers I mean shit I was just being silly in the first place. I don't really give a shit about VAC because you can just leave a match anyways and tf2 isn't a serious game unlike csgo. But what I'm saying is that there's still a considerably large playerbase.
@sprucecape02 6 жыл бұрын
ive been banned in tf2 so id disagree
@hh-oe2yw 6 жыл бұрын
Philip, what are your thoughts on hardware bans for cheaters?
@8-bitato 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to be false overwatch banned if i get a few lucky shots? I don’t like that somebody could just go call cheats and i'd get banned :(
@Anassanimation 6 жыл бұрын
1 cheater disliked this Video 🤔
@sgt.jalal1046 6 жыл бұрын
Anass animationTM Loll
@akeiai 6 жыл бұрын
Boi, it's Phillip, he dislikes his videos
@memoriam1868 6 жыл бұрын
Probably Philip
@radioactiveplums 6 жыл бұрын
He dislikes his own videos lul
@kraken347 6 жыл бұрын
Parallax but wut if phillip was a cheater too 👀👀👀👀🧐🧐😱😱😱😱😱
@mistletoe88 6 жыл бұрын
that 95% conviction rate is an example of bad statistics. because vacnet only submits blatant hackers 95% is actually incredibly low. as for human reported cases, the reason why the conviction rate is so low is partly because we report subtle hacks and also have to report without getting to see the other player's perspective. in other words, report rates to overwatch shouldn't be used as a benchmark for anything cause it is a useless statistic.
@Helveteshit 6 жыл бұрын
IT is too hard to catch subtle hackers. Hence it doesn't do it. Because you will end up having pro players banned because someone less experienced might think they are subtly hacking for positioning the cross hair properly due knowing the map. But to a less experienced, casual player. That can look like subtle hacks.
@nimrodery 6 жыл бұрын
Valve should just add replay with a 30 second delay so you can't use it to call out positions. Then humans can report blatant hackers, not just "suspects."
@captnmaico6776 6 жыл бұрын
Well depends, even for blatant hacks i would assume the conviction rate for the machine algorithm to be higher, as they dont get tired or troll etc. But yeah, you are right the conviciton rate for blatant hacks should be much higher for humans too and therefore the stat is somewhat missleading However as philip points out in his video, this might be fixed in the future with unsupervised deep learning. Sadly the only Ai i currently know capable of that is Alphago Zero from Google. Mabye also IBM and their Watson, as IBM holds the most patents in the deep learning segment. Yet if prices for hardware lower, hardware becomes more powerful and unsupervised deep learning AIs more prominent, then silent aim and other subtile hacks will be elimanated aswell. Maybe then Valve already will release a new CSGO or Counterstrike with Battle Royale and Panorama UI , who knows, but cheating will become much more resourcful for people in the future and therefore more unattractive.
@mistletoe88 6 жыл бұрын
i'm just pointing out a bad use of statistics. it's like valve is trying to pat itself on the back for something that essentially is still 5% worse than a human. vacnet is still going to be useless until it can achieve nearly 100% certainty on blatant hacks and actually ban them on the spot as this would relieve the burden on overwatch leaving the human based system to only judge more complicated cases.
@Narvaljodchik 6 жыл бұрын
"95% is actually incredibly low" *L M A O* *M* *A* *O*
@Brodaty_Brodacz 6 жыл бұрын
What you can say abut Players That already being VAC Banned can play match making ? i had saw at leest 4 players like that and they still playd the match wihile being on vac .
@lxmusic2256 6 жыл бұрын
good video phillip but whats your opinion on cheating in singleplayer games?
@mckresha1 6 жыл бұрын
I really don't understand why wouldn't valve upgrade CSGO into source 2 engine,it happened to dota 2, and that game just became better and better (except the toxicity ofc)
@THE-MOES-SHOW 6 жыл бұрын
nikimaruu valve are making enough profits from their store they gave up on their games except dota because dota gives them little bit more money in cookie jar probably to pay their employees 😂
@gokusukhman 6 жыл бұрын
Changing the engine with change the whole feel and movement of the player. It'll break the game
@Helveteshit 6 жыл бұрын
I suspect they might release a new CS on that engine rather than updating it. I mean, Counter-strike is the only game with more than 3 expansions/re-iterations. Dota2 is ... too close to 3. TF2, the same.
@Paleski 6 жыл бұрын
Helveteshit No it wouldn't make sense, some skins cost a lot and they would become useless. It would just be Counter strike: 1.6 and Source all over again. The community would split up.
@Kacpa2 6 жыл бұрын
Georgebad It would remove skins it would be same game keeping all stuff you had. Like Dota2 but problem is player movement and gunplay cuz in rts/moba it barely is an issue its less direct and not as precise as in cs go and could be redone essier. But FPS games like CSGO and especially TF2 they would need to work hard as fuck ....and in tf2 it could harm custom gamemodes and mods.....
@Salad-in 5 жыл бұрын
"Sometimes we make mistakes, We rectify them clearly and immediately" You mean just like you're denied SuperBunnyHop's appeal for a VAC ban on a singleplayer HL1 game for using shader mods?
@superknightlol 4 жыл бұрын
Salad-in i know its late, but vac ban cant be remove even by employees.
@falonthorne445 4 жыл бұрын
@@superknightlol Vac bans can definitely be removed. There are loads of video's on youtube and threads on reddit (I'm leaving out reviews and threads on steam because some have been removed and others either have the links from screenshots removed or images posted removed) of Vac bans being removed. VAC isn't 100% without mistakes i'd say it's closer to 90-94% which is way too low for such a garbage anticheat that lets everyone do whatever as long as 20 out of 30 humans dont think hes cheating without a reasonable doubt.
@superknightlol 4 жыл бұрын
Falonthorne i think what you meant is griefing ban. its possible to remove those. VAC arent that bad battleEye are way worse and ive seen more hacker in ubisoft game than csgo.
@falonthorne445 4 жыл бұрын
@@superknightlol No, VAC bans. cheating bans.
@nonAehT 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't done an overwatch case for years now. I didn't know they were actually that useful. Thanks Phillip i'll start overwatching again
@coldgamer9634 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and presentation!
@albertopr 6 жыл бұрын
But Philip, of course I'm going to report a player while in a game, if I wait, analyze his point of view and get to the point that I'm sure he's cheating, I can't anymore report him by csgo, instead, I'll have to report him in his profile, directly to vac, what in most cases don't do nothing to the most obvious cheaters
@stdDizzasTeR 4 жыл бұрын
A year later, now you can!
@pandoratv3927 6 жыл бұрын
Probably the "Premium" Cheats are gonna get updated to not get detected Also what's about the 'legit' hackers that for example don't use Aimbot or only an assisting aimbot (30-40% smoothness and a very low fov)?
@pandoratv3927 6 жыл бұрын
Lord Fr3ze would probably be more less undetectable (If the hacker is intelligent enough to use it correctly :p)
@Persona274 6 жыл бұрын
you are a legend for summarising all these. learn something new everyday. glad valve is working hard
@gianrc2992 5 жыл бұрын
I like how you put the cow in the VACnet video thumbnail, because cow in spanish means "VACA". I just found that funny...
@c4andafter-.--518 6 жыл бұрын
Well in Roblox...
@soundheart4013 6 жыл бұрын
TheTurkishWolf - merhaba kardes :)
@JwanRassoul 6 жыл бұрын
amena koim
@c4andafter-.--518 6 жыл бұрын
when lemons give you life wtf ???
@soundheart4013 6 жыл бұрын
TheTurkishWolf - I’m not saying you ? Sana demiyom
@c4andafter-.--518 6 жыл бұрын
when lemons give you life i know my kardeşim
@CyMations 5 жыл бұрын
I think csgo went f2p so VAC can learn more efficiently
@aminmw5258 3 жыл бұрын
lowkey correct
@mitielica 6 жыл бұрын
But if a cheater paid for a specific cheat cant he also pay for a new csgo when his main account gets banned. This is where IP banning comes but i am not sure if this is going to be a good idea. If you are reading this I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
@danixd777 6 жыл бұрын
Most underrated channel on KZfaq
@putra195 6 жыл бұрын
It's sucks when you play very well in a particular game and the opposing team reports you, and after that match you que for another match and then facing real cheaters.... :/
@putra195 6 жыл бұрын
Having this problem since the trust factor was announced Btw... 😅
@ichimonji9478 6 жыл бұрын
that is true. the trust factor is pretty shit rn tbh, so id rather go on prime matchmaking until they fix the trust factor
@Sayan4 6 жыл бұрын
u guys dont understand trust factor is in both prime and non prime matches, if u select exclusive search for prime only u will only get players with level20+ but it still uses trust factor
@putra195 6 жыл бұрын
Well in my case I always use the Trust Factor matchmaking since it launched, at the first couple week I thought "meh.. Its alright the system still need a lot of data", but now (if I'm not wrong after 6-8 months the system launched) still getting some issues..
@cuteloli1430 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Sgnolbo 6 жыл бұрын
But the old VAC doesn't work. Trust me, I've played TF2.
@Helveteshit 6 жыл бұрын
Well, the system was focused on CS:GO. The VAC works like it should... but it can't accurately tell A from B still that aren't utterly blatant. Plus, TF2 is fairly outdated. And Valve doesn't like the number 3.
@Element_Finland 6 жыл бұрын
It's signature based and works as intended.
@Vekkuli001 6 жыл бұрын
It actually works quite well when it gets feed with new info. Only problem is that they can just create a new account.
@ominous5807 6 жыл бұрын
it works terrible. anyone can make a paste for free and if they are not retarded never get banned
@towtruckaj 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think you understand how vac works, It's signature based, It takes known cheats signatures and bans them immediately when they are detected, It does not exactly detect cheats, It has to have that cheats signature in its database to ban the person using it, So it actually works really well for the cheats in their databases, Any signature in the database will be banned pretty much immediately.
@Reficulx 6 жыл бұрын
The deep learning in terms of Dota's hero selection is supposed to determine what the best hero to pick during certain scenarios are.
@EdibleOstriche 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Keep up the good work man
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