makes no sense

Don’t worry I think the majority of Australians will vote no.

@@CENSOREDFORSPEAKINGTRUTHS4380 Not for the reasons you are obviously 😂 Get under the house!

@@Will-nb8qk here this is for you 🖕now take this and shove it you know where.

@@Will-nb8qk you have no idea what your talking about do you? 🤣

Yep. Exactly.

@@sthnwatch You stole our minerals our children our land. We want treaty all land in Australia is ours

@@blake9358 No children were ever stolen. Part Aboriginal children were left with authorities and not picked up, or handed in so they could have a better life, or removed, as they are today, due mostly to neglect and violence or because they were in moral danger. Remember that young girls were promised to old men at puberty and handed over soon after to begin wifely duties. As Lefty anthropologist W E Stanner writes in, 'White Man got no Dreaming -Essays 1938 - 1973', he talks about helping Aboriginal people by, ''making unstable families more stable, or reducing absenteeism, or giving young women real alternatives to prostitution". The latter explains how the sharp rise in part-Aboriginal people came about. It had NOTHING to do with them being raped, which nearly all mixed race people claim today.

We all know who benefits mostly from any type of wealth in the Aboriginal community and it isn't the ones you can pick as Koories or Blackfellas on sighting them or those who live in the communities.

You're one of the reason why the no vote is winning!@@jimcockburn4652

Labor themselves have admitted that we already have councils in place that Local Governments can talk to and work with, yet not enough is being done currently, even though they throw millions of dollars at it. The Voice isn't the problem it is the fact that what's currently in place isn't working.

@@harleyf19 It will be a problem if it passes.

Think the way the government is I don't think it's Gunna matter who votes which way the voice will be like Biden it'll get through by rigging it an punish anyone who opposes it

Thank you. My half brother had a full blood Aboriginal great grandmother so my nieces/ nephews are about 13% Aboriginal so to me they shouldn't claim Aboriginality as it's less than 50%. Yet my brother has a certificate to say he is indigenous Australian, and I only have my birth certificate which should make me indigenous since I was born here too.

Well i guess you still need to learn that your fight should be to denounce the royals and become republic, not have a voice to the very ppl tbat invaded your country, toom your land and hour ppl

A good post, thatk you

Surprised there not trying the what the goodies did at the end of the south Africa episode when they returned to England

yup, its bs,, they should sht the fk up,,accept there a conquared nation, that now has sht loads of gov assistance, more than white people get, clothese, cars, homes, education,,what the fk is there problem.. boat people get more money assist, than ausies.. we should be winging, not them..look up hindmarsh island saga..s.a..

Labor’s voice lies!!!!!!!>>> The real "First People" There are plenty of places thru this email for fact checking.. use it to clarify.. The Torres Strait Islanders are a different race of unrelated people of Melanesian descent, their history goes back about 3,000 years, diverging to a mix of Papuan and Lapita people 30,000 years ago. They are a well-structured society with agriculture and productive communal industry, and warriors using bows and arrows. The aborigines never had enough smarts to copy their usage or society; they never rose above stone age weapons (National Geographic) had gardens or agriculture. Australian Aborigines were probably the tenth race of people to have lived in Australia. Aborigines are of Indian descent, sharing the same mtDNA and two basal synonymous mtDNA polymorphisms G8251A and A9156T with the M42 haplogroup, shared exclusively between (pre-Dravidian) Indian and Australian aborigines - “These particular mutations do not exist anywhere else in the world; they are shared exclusively between a few isolated ancient tribes in India and Australian aboriginals” (Quote: Prof Dr Satish Kumar). Ancient endo cast skulls have been found, strange Flat-Head skulls, others of very different ancestry from Kow Swamp, Nacurrie, Coobool Creek, Cohuna, Lake Mungo. Tasmanian Aborigines were Papuan Ulotrichi referred to by Professor Alfred Cort Haddon in his book, ‘The Races of Man’. We have photographs of the 'little people' (150 cm) of the Kuranda rainforest.

That’s not the reason!!!. I think these “white Indigenous” people are feeling more comfortable about claiming their (whatever little there is) heritage because it’s now more fashionable to own it and Indigenous people are starting to make headway becoming more prominent, educated in the professional sense and visible in society. That’s how it’s works, you don’t want to know people while they’re down and in the gutter but now it’s more acceptable. Aboriginal people would love the quality of life, the wealth, the freedom to go where whites are free to go without being discriminated and rejected and feeling unwelcome. Even standing in line at a coffee shop and the server looking right past the black person to the next white, while asking who’s next, and the black customer and white one knowing full well who that server is preferring to serve next. So don’t fking talk to me about being treated the same!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

And that's all the BS INVOICE is about.

Why would they possibly want "white man's" money for .. unless they plan on living the same lifestyles as their supposedly "colonial" oppressors? They often refer to themselves as "custodians" of the "sacred land" but the original so-called "custodians" had no "money" as such (sea shells don't count I'm afraid) before they became addicted to white man's "money". If they really wanted the land then there should be no "white colonialist" money attached to their claims. Isn't it supposedly their "sacred" duty to "manage" the land out of love for the land's sacredness that they keep reminding us of? These so-called "aboriginal" people will probably end up flogging the lot of the land off to Bill Gates! Maybe Bill Gates is the new Rainbow Serpent?

It has always been about the money. Sacred land gets sold off pretty quick when the money is right.

​@@bradvernon3306it's as bout as sacred as my arse.they put a bit of paint on a rock wall and claim it.i might try that my self

BS, you love the division.

AND AFTER WE VOTE NO WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO GO AFTER ALBO BOWEN LABOR GREEN GOV. AND FINISH THEM AND ALL THIS CLIMATE AND RENEWABLES IT IS COMMUNISM WAKE UP PEOPLE

Yes, we are all Australians, and we should all look out for each other. Right over wrong, good over bad. But we are so much more diverse with cultures than what we were 30 yrs ago. I think there will always be somewhat of a street felt division.

And one Flag!

That’s already done to 80% of the land mass or didn’t you know that?

​@@sereanaduwai8313nonsense the concept of land title didn't exist prior to English settling in Australia. There were no defined land borders between groups of aboriginals although they kept to certain areas as they knew the land & how best to live off it.

Apparently. you have stolen someone's land,,, Apparently you are over 250 year old ...$$$$$$$

I COULDN T AGREE WITH YOU MORE

​@@jamesgowing3856Always was, always would be aboriginal land.

It is distressing that they still hunt dugong.

Tell fisheries you identify as. A shark,then follow em around asking if their catching anything,keeps Em away

@@chrisruss9861and turtles

@@chrisruss9861 and using outboard motors and guns ??

No, we have rights to fish on our waterways...before albanese came pm...get your facts straight fool...

It wasn't that long ago when Australia had an all white policy ! or the extermination of Aboriginal's from Tasmania and some still want to further burden the Indigenous population, thankfully Albanese and the Labour Government are attempting to right those wrongs of yesteryear, hopefully the Aussie Conservative's are.

My God are you in neverland

Search for "Mandela kill the boer" to see who was actually "racist". 80,000 white farmers have been butchered by these savages in 30 years, the country is now in perpetual famine and doesn't even have reliable electricity since blacks decided they were capable of running a country.

Is than not the case for white South Africans who have lived in South Africa for generations? But yet, "Kill the Boer" is not condemed as racist? I totally agree with you!!!

Nelson Mandela, said I detest racism but yet he insisted that white South Africans has no claim to land in South Africa.

The job you have ypu didn't work for it was given to you. Yes europeans are given jobs as soon as they leave school and are allowed the chance to build generational wealth we are not so lucky. Our land was stolen and our people were slaughtered so that europeans like you can thrive today. Laws put in place by white supremacists punished our people like we weren't allowed to own land in most states until November 1978. And the truth is over 90% of european owned businesses have never hired indigenous people. So the cycle continues of white supremacists and white privilege. All we wamt is the same advantages europeans benefit from we want to be able to send our kids to universities as well we want to be able to pay solicitors to keep our kids out of jail like europeans do we want to be able to walk down the street without police illegally searching us. Is that too much to ask that we get the same as europeans.... it is europeans hate seeing others get the same as them. Whit privilege and white supremacy needs to stop in this country.

An still then under the current government you can think it is but at the same time helping the WEF push it's you'll own nothing an be happy an later they've had no problem taking away what ppl thinks there's

Same problem in NZ

The vote is not about Aboriginal people coming in and taking everyone's home or properties.

And now these people who have been granted a huge chunk of land are going to sell it for a property development and pocket the cash.

Aboard rat infested ships wearing those leg and neck irons. They, didn't want them escaping!

Same here....husband has convict ancestry...where's OUR land?

You will have to hit Charlie & Camilla up that!

@@r1nkyd1nk66 Monarchy hit’em up

Sue the The British Monarchy. 🇬🇧

if it wins there will be a lot of trouble, eventually violence.

It's not us you need to worry about it's the UN.,. And through anthropology the government know who owns which land and have for the past 50 years.,. It's just the government playing games with the truth like always they give the money to the wrong people

That is exactly what the far left wants@@garyjohnstone6422

you'll wake up one day and realize all this and whats going on is a DISTRACTION TO SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON . most people travel from cradle to grave oblivious distracted guided over here while the real agenda most wont even see of know it . people really are sheep , i gave up trying to inform them for 16 years even with evidence ...they belaive what the official man or women in a white coat tells them on the tell a lie vision (television)

I take it the voice didn't win😅

As if.. hes kiwi not Australian aboriginal..

@@ladytammy6886 it doesn't matter. He can claim anything and get away with it. Many are doing it for what they can get.

I once had a blonde haired blue eyed school mate who got into university to study medicine even though he technically did not get the test results to gain entrance. However he was able to somehow prove he was 16th part Aboriginal to benefit from the pass mark concession. This was 20 years ago. Don't tell me they don't already get education or health benefits. The referendum is a waste of money.

Why does 1% aboriginal & 99% white make one aboriginal ?

Relatives takin away from them so these ppl have a choice, it's not for anyone to decide that for them.

provable facts or dreamtime I'll trust the DNA thanks

Thats the 1st thing we should vote on .not the voice

@@lulurosenkrantz3720 correct.. I got greek heritage and scottish heritage but Im australian. I say im australian, I don't go around saying im greek or scottish cause its only a very small part of me.. its so stupid that there is people saying they are aboriginal when they prob only have 5-10% or less in them..

Albo would have a meltdown.

If the yes vote wins, (and I hope it doesn't) that is exactly what we all should do. 🤔

@@_random_dude ...and the economy would collapse shortly afterwards....

Somewhat difficult with the stolen generation.

Does DNA testing give % of, if any indigenous bloodline? Sad to think all the indigenous people of the northern beaches are extinct, that’s how Manly got its name after the indigenous men chased off the convicts looking for thatching

Here we go another idiot who didn't listen to the interview. We already do have a system and it's called "Confirmation of Aboriginality". YOU HAVE TO BE ACCEPTED BY A CLAN OR TRIBE. Do some research

Sam Kerr id's as aboriginal although her father is anglo/indian and her mother is filipina

Exposed, condemned and Fined$$$ for fraud!!!

none have any right to claim anything

And if test is negative, jail time is required.

What about dna testing to be Australian??

To right mate 👍

it also needs to be decided what % of DNA qualifies a person to be called indigenous. if a 50%, and a 25% person were going for the same say university grant, does the 50% person have more right as being purer blood? a person on disability MUST prove medically they are disabled, surely a white person should have to prove they are Indigenous?

I have native blood in my system ,I never claim to be indigenous for benefits or for education purposes. As far as I'm concerned I'm Australian .All for one 1⃣ for all

@@glennlawson5289 I like your outlook. Every Australian living in Australia today is part of our history and future. Everyone that needs a leg up in Australia needs support from all those that are doing well in life. The support shouldn't be based on race.

Its not hard at all to conferm aboriginally

it is not hard and it isn't. That is why these two were called out

@@jilljill7647 Rubbish. To confirm that you are aboriginal will get harder with each new generation. The voice will have no meaning in a couple of more generations for many Australians. Only those that want to gorge on the hard work of others will say they are part of the voice. In fact so much corruption will exist that Australian society will be greatly diminished. Surely you can see what has happened in Russia with oligarchs running the show. Vote NO to the racist voice.

Shes NOT Aboriginal - at best 50% as her father is WHITE.

@@navarrenavarre TRUTH !!!!

spot on, did you see the intrview with her father ?, :):):)

Well, early white settlers made sure that cannot happen. Are you serious? Wow, very sad to be you.

Thank god you are not in parliament. It’s people with deformed ideals like yours that have disadvantaged true custodians of this country. What special benefits do Indigenous people get.

agreed tottally otherwise it never ends.

@@navarrenavarre the claims.

Someone shouldn't be more another culture then aboriginal getting financial assistance.. why is someone 1/4 aboriginal getting financial assistance at all..

If they start with they are a percentage or identify as pretty much sums it up!!😂🤣

We can look at South Africa too.

I think I am one millionth aboriginal. Bi the way how about the Yowie I am well believe. YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST NATION. ACCORDING TO your own . Take me on further

Passed as an aboriginal. Sounds like a certain Austrian in the 1930s. Woke only divides.

@@tnytysonthey came from Polynesia, definitely not 1st Nation, they committed total genocide upon The Australian Pygmy’s.

@@MRFIXIT3895 exactly 👍🏻, if we keep agreeing to live in the past, how far do we go back and at what cost. History, it seems is interpretable and can be twisted to suit. My forefathers & mothers, where kidnapped at gun point, beaten, starved, taken to a inhospitable land, held hostage for 10years and forced into slave labour. Surly my convict heritage must equate to being a “Stolen Generation”. Let’s not forget inter generational trauma is a thing. Btw, I’m being sarcastic. 🙃

But it’s not so your comment has zero meaning.

@@shieldmaiden3986 sure it is, your reply is meaningless

The British tried to do that.

Exactly. The definition of Aboriginal is just the ‘original inhabitant of a land’ so we are literally ALL Aboriginals to somewhere.

Everyone is an indigenous person. EVERYONE is a descendant from a first person somwhere. In the main they dont make it a way of life.

Commies, who are thieves by stealth anyway!

you remember hindmarsh island,, i knew that was bs from day 1..

@@harrywalker968Secret women's business! It was seen for what it was, as bridge went ahead.

Pauline Hanson suggested testing and was screamed down

​@@kellysouter4381 ridiculous that we aren't even allowed to get proof.. this voice better not go through, or we're screwed..

Base it on the method of getting a passport for the land of your ancestors. If your ancestors landed here on the first fleet, bad luck too far back. If a Grandparent can be traced to the land of your ancestors then bingo, you're in!

Except that some Land Councils deny that the traditional descedants are actual descendants of the traditional owners.

@@scottjones6921 What do you mean 'traditional owners'? Indigenous people had no concept of land ownership before European settlement. So this whole argument about land being stolen from aboriginal land 'occupiers' is a farce. If anyone were to be serious about European settlement in this country, it is that the establishment of a unifying government (not tribe) ensured land access and rights may be shared and accounted for fairly among all citizens, indigenous and otherwise.

Your correct

@@techo61 Not true, they had a concept of tribal area and the fought to keep others out of their traditional lands. They also had arrangements with neighbouring mobs to share some resources, seasonally, hold corroborees, intermarry and to fight together against other invaders. So I would say they had traditional ownership of their lands. They just didn't own a block of land and live in the one place as the Europeans did. Whether native title can coexist with modern land ownership would depend on how much land and which land was taken from them, and what rights Europeans had to settle in the country. Did their native title exclude Europeans from settling in the country? It appears that Mabo and Wik decided this and since then various governments have been handing back land to the Land Councils.

yeah, say you are black and you are

Should be able to freely choose NO without Govt. pressure and tricks.

i wouldn't be at all surprised to learn China has already offered Aboriginal leaders large sums of future cash for mining rights, provided they can get access to the land and nullify existing mining leases.

@@AmandaGardner-cv4gy Definitely has. A few decades ago I read a story about a Chinese fishing boat coming to the NT. A fisherman on the boat married the daughter of a local Aboriginal elder. Not long afterwards, the tribe was granted Native Title which gave them control over an LPG deposit worth estimated $60 billion. So his Chinese-Aboriginal descendants stood to become richer than 99.99% of Australian kids, and they'd still get privileged access to Parliament and Executive. Fair? Hardly. That fraud that all Aborigines are poor so need special access to Parliament through a voice is a disgrace.

They owned the land before invasion fool...

The land was taken from the original pygmies peoples, they annihilated and hunted them until there was none left.

​@@joycekennedy5252you're the bigger fool for believing there was an invasion.

@@joycekennedy5252 Fighting for land was the traditional way of establishing ownership of it prior to European arrival. The Europeans conformed to local customs and acquired the land in the accepted, traditional way: they started using it and resisted any attackers.

Our stupid government decided aboriginals could just claim it then sell it. Land which was national park

An end to a forever pay out is needed.. how did we come to the decision to pay for life..

No one wants the white side. They already have a system in place for ID.

The land was taken from aboriginal people without consent. Go figure.

I don't remember voting if they deserve free houses Forever, which they got

@@joycekennedy5252 Which throughout history has happened WORLDWIDE. So what is your point? WE are Australian. To vote Yes to the Voice is divisive and racist. VOTE NO

​@joycekennedy5252 and the currant 1st nations stole it off the original indigenous peoples who were hear before them.

Rubbish!!

Or go into a reserve ,extra on fishing licenses,gun licenses,permits for where ever and what ever,dipping into super accounts ,the theft and graft is endless,this is the stuff of a civil war ,taxation without representation

Which local aboriginal land council have u usually paid to?

Yep

Make me…

Agreed.. how do you claim for getting paid, when you're majority the same as everyone else having to pay..

If you were born in Australia, you are indigenous to Australia

@@Maxindifference no your not

There is no test for aboriginality, if there was I would take it, both sides of my family, two different areas, so I'm in no man's land.

So you’re a British Aboriginal.😊

​@@julzhunt7790 Yes, we should send him back to England under neck and leg chain, aboard a leaky ship, where he can land and lay claim to a nice part of England. :-))

@@chrisreynolds352 if your legitimately aboriginal then your DNA test should say your Dna is from around Oceanania particularly Australia. I have a small % of dna directly from Nigeria of all places yet I'm less white than most Aboriginals 🤣🤣🤣

Exactly.. live on the land like you did before us horrible settlers came.. about time we settle at a cost and stoo this forever payment on the heads of ppl who had nothing to do with coming here.. sick of an unknown future because I was born here, but not born of the right blood..

Well that's politicians The World over I'm afraid.

Shouldn't get anything if your less than 50%..

You shouldn't be recognised as an Aboriginie unless you are an Aboriginie. The ABS points out correctly there are less than 40,000 Tribesmen left, that is full blood Aboriginal. These government funded tribal communities are by far the most neglected people in Australia. The church run tribal communities fare considerably better, particularly in Western Australia. These Aboriginal activists and the virtue signalling victimhood social constructs they have created are a scam and the Tribesmen don't trust them. As a West Australian who had worked with the Tribesmen for 45 years I scoff at their fabricated claims they care about the Tribesmen. In so far as our profoundly corrupt media is concerned both left and right of the political BS they propagate, these clowns wouldn't have a God damned clue who the Tribesmen are. I don't think the majority of people on the east coast even realise the Aboriginie's have jet black skin and more, english is not their first language not least that they still hold on to their belief systems. Which I might add are not respected by this Voice scam. How can you claim respect for the culture when you state the election of office bearers will be conducted on the principal of equality when tribal Aboriginies are a patriarchal culture, women and the uninitiated have no say in their decisions and certainly not some hand bag carrying pink haired white boy living in Sydney who's only link to their Aboriginal heritage goes back a hundred years. In that case and as Aboriginie's until 1967 had no birth records their claims cannot be varified. Even here in WA we still have thousands of Tribesmen who's births are not registered. The whole deal is a power and money grab by people who are better identified with the very settlers who they themselves proclaim are the perpetrators, it's an absolute joke. By the very election processes of the Voice the Tribesmen are excluded from holding key central committee positions. It's all BS and serves to diminish the importance of these remaining Tribesmen even further making them more vulnerable to corporate control via Canberra. Disgraceful ?

100%.. the polls already show its rigged.. no way there's over 40% support in every state.. we're screwed..

Oh yeah twill be rigged

Yeah. Nothing suss there though hey Albo. 😡