A weird little side note: You can tell the stainless is low quality *because* magnets stick to it. High Grade Stainless has enough Chromium in it to stop magnets from sticking. I used to build high end kitchens and we had to distinguish between Stainless Steel and "Stain-Less" Steel often.

There are magnets that can tolerate higher temperatures as well. The term you're looking for is the Curie temperature :)

You can drill out the rivets, just the center. Then just put another one in with a cheap rivet gun.

Great work. Didn't know about the magnet thing. I'm waiting for a pump for my washing machine today. I tell my kids you need to learn how to fix things instead of buying a replacement. Mother earth liked it.

Hey Morley! Watching from about an hour outside of Detroit - on the Canadian Side of the border. I’ve watched a handful of your videos over the passed week or so, and your resourcefulness and ability to fix and create things is inspirational. I love how you can see the potential of 3D printing - by creating parts for fixes, and I also love how you use conventional power tools as well (was watching you build the mobile writing yesterday). I feel as if more people started using your mindset when it comes to fixing/creating, the world would be a better place. Kudos to you!

I made a mistake with those magnets in the past also and tried to have them as inserts in a 3D print, the heat of the nozzle made them demagnetize, I was super bummed, but learned that lesson the hard way

Your channel is a jewel! KZfaq recommended one of your videos and I immediately fall in love with your channel. I can't believe all these quality contents don't get a million subscribers already. I really love your craftmanship and problem solving skills. Keep up all the good works and wish you all the best!

You are one of my must watch channels! Simple fun, projects, and almost always very educational! Also you’re not a 3d-printer channel specifically, but you make the best 3d-printer videos! 🙌🏼

Hey man, Whirlpool, the maker of KitchenAid, uses a pretty standard design for the wrappers on their microwaves and toaster ovens. After all the screws are removed from the wrapper, most slide back to unclip from the front of the appliance before they can be removed. Should make your repair easier next time.

So impressed with your 'problem solving' techniques and ability. I do the EXACT same thing you do. There is, in my mind a time limit I can spend on anything to fix it. Example. My Dyson vacuum cleaner will not switch to upright suction. Many problems with this on the internet. I spent hours trying the repairs online. Gave up. Plus, the price to have it repaired is almost twice to replace it with another good brand. Thank you so much. These videos are so much fun and 'educational'. As someone who will try to fix something. Or make something that does not exist.

Love the ingenuity. You are awesome. Keep it up. I have a feeling this channel is going to grow.

I love watching these little projects. Very educational.

Yeah, when I saw the magnets, I immediately thought they would be demagnetized from the heat.

Great editing! Great job fixing the toaster oven!. Love your energy and attitude. Keep it up :)

For anyone doing something like this in the future, if the noise from the spring annoys you, you can lube it with a bit of dielectric grease.

Interesting about the magnets! I'm sure lots of other people have told you, but rivets are awesome 😂😂

Nice save! I bet you that bolt/pin/whatever that held the original spring was engineered to fail. And then just a couple of rivets instead of screws to make it harder to take apart! Built-in obsolescence is the worst!!!

That is a good fix. I love the black marks on the wire insulation near where you got black grease on your finger. I bet that metal door bar rubs on the insulation.

Great video as always. But, I have a confession to make. I loved the spoon temp solution. Genius! 😆

I thought you had it with the magnets! Probably best that you were able to get a spring back in place like the original design!

Nice save Mate 🛠👍😊

Good work man, you are very resourceful

And that's a reason why you test your fixes :). Good catch. I bet those rivets were part of the design for mechanical purposes. As you saw how well the bolt snapped off ... Rivots are good quick fixes for these kinds of structural issues because they are stupid strong and easy to retrofit into something that is already on the floor being built.

Mines the same. Going to do this now. Thanks. Almost just threw it out to get a new one.

Well Done Sir!

Well done, always good to see a simple fix save an otherwise perfeclty fine appliance from being chucked. When you screwed in the spring I worried about the inside of the case. There's no electricals behind there, is there? And I assume it didn't get all the way into the cooking area, cause I imagine there'd be a decent air gap for insulation.

Nice problem solving and fix!

Moving the spring attachment point down a little will tend to help hold the door closed by the detent in the guide channel.

Was typing a comment about how magnets demagnetize above 80c but you starting talking about that right as I hit the submit button... goes to teach you should watch the entire video before commenting lol

Fixing toaster ovens is his new side hustle! Great video though

I can't believe reputable brands like KitchenAid do this. Whatever makes the next quarterly profit to go up I guess. Either way, even though this was a simple fix, it encourages more people to take apart their appliances and fix it themselves instead of buying new all the time. Recently, I replaced a belt and a gasket on the washer and it is very rewarding. Keep making more videos like this. Thank you.

Electronic engineer here, if the magnet is not heated above its Curie point it will not permanently demagnetize (btw just fyi they can be remagnetized by the same process, heat them up above their Curie point and expose them to an external magnetic field). They will lose some strength when they are heated, but if it doesn't reach above the Curie point (roughly around 300C for neodymium magnets, which, kitchen ovens usually don't even approach easily) then they won't permanently demagnetize.

For future reference you can get samarium cobalt magnets that are rated for much higher temperatures, they're a bit weaker than a neodymium magnet of the same size though but for something like this that wouldn't have mattered much.

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Thanks A. Paley I was just about to say something...🤔😂🖖✌🍻

Did you take the magnets out again? And maybe heat-seal the hole in the steel, for the heat might melt the black plastic cover. Great work though, you got me with the magnet solution....

We have a Cuisinart toaster oven just like this. The door switch failed and wouldn't let the oven operate or turn on. After looking for a way to fix the switch, I said F it and just bypassed the switch. I had to open the side just like how you did. I cut the two wires and connected them together, and bam works great. I definitely think they are made to not be repairable and they want you to buy a new one.

I may be late to the party, and I love the videos, dont get me wrong, however I was just wondering, if this is a broken toaster oven, not that we have such things in the UK, what happened to the original broken bits? Has someone already cleaned them out? Where you not able to look at the old spring and determine the size and strength, as it seemed the spring didnt really have the strength to keep the door closed firmly. It didn't snap shut like it would have done when new.

I love how the manufacturers try to out smart the customers with a faulty design, yet you out smarted the manufacturers haha

You are awesome!

Could put a wedge under the front to use gravity, but then you'd have to design an internal rack that is on the same angle lol, I first thought magnets as well, sucks they don't like high temp

Quality stainless steal is non-magnetic. The magnet idea is good you just need magnets with a higher curie point.

Nice!

im sure the spring will demagnitize also !

Undo the screws that surround the case, and then slip the casing back to clear the clips. Simples. Would have saved you so much time fannying around with magnets and a multitool to butcher the door.

I wanted to imbed magnets into my print by melting them in. Made the same experience you did :(

Mmm. KitchenAid. Such quality. I love how Americans who love baking always go "buy KitchenAid, the spare parts, when they break, are cheap" or "I love my KitchenAid, but it's broken just now". :-)

I doubt that it was rivited at that corner, because those rivets were holding only the bracket for the spring arm.

You can drill out the rivets and get a cheap rivet gun and some rivets from Harbor Freight, or a big box store.

The only people who dislike this work for KitchenAide

1. Magnets only stick to low quality stainess steel. 2. You can rill rivets out.

What happened to the old spring?

For future, it's very common for tinkerers to just drill out rivets and either replace them with screws, or add new rivets. A rivet pop gun is like ten bucks, rivets are cents. Dope solution though.

you don't gotta break this at all to use magnets to fix it. you just gotta tie a loop of string over the handle, and put a magnet, probably with a with a hook, on top. pull the string up and over to the magnet, boom, closed

Stainless steel doesn’t mean it’s magnetic. Some types of stainless are not magnetic. I’ve got an entire outdoor gas grill built of it. So stainless you always need to check it it’s magnetic first; it’s not a given.

Couldn’t you just drill out the rivets and then fix spring then re rivet it?

I probably would have just screwed on a small latch on the top from home depot or something lol. Don't have the energy for fiddling with springs or a Dremel and all that.

kitchen aid stuff is expensive too right?

If rivets are in your way, I always drill them out and just pop a new rivet in.

"If a magnet is exposed to high temperatures, the delicate balance between temperature and magnetic domains is destabilized. At around 80 °C, a magnet will lose its magnetism and it will become demagnetized permanently if exposed to this temperature for a period, or if heated above their Curie temperature."

Rivets are the bane of my existence

Note: magnets usually do not stick to stainless steel, most have Austenitic crystal structure which is not magnetic. Magnetism isn't determined by the atoms but rather the crystal lattice that they form.

Demagnetized magnets, I feel your sorrow!

AND...heating the SPRING up to 400 degrees F...allows it to stretch too much making this solution worthless. Right?

nice

I just start the video but magnet in a hoven is a bad idea because of Degaussing point of magnet. And rivet like this can be drilled and just change the spring.

I would put a stronger one but nice job indeed

A normal diy_er would have gone with the second option first, lol

I did not buy the breville smart oven air fryer pro for a similar reason. The same area but instead of a spring it has a washer that is made of GOD DAMN PLASTIC. For the price of 400 dollars you get an oven whose door will fail after opening and closer after about a year and a half cause the metal arm similar to this door with a slot for the washer cuts it away after repeated use. I forget if there is a spring as well but the failure point in the mechanism is the plastic washer. The only caveat that makes it better than this oven is the side panel comes off easily to repair that BS. which costs like a dollar at home depot for some METAL washers. It is ridiculous that companies build this jump and expect you to TRASH it when it stops working or refuse to repair it. So I could buy the oven and fix that issue myself but I find it ridiculous that I have to do additional work for an oven that COST $400.

Looked pretty repair friendly though

Could have just drilled the rivets out and replaced them later. You can get pop-rivet tools super cheap

Rivets are cheap drill/grind them off repair then re rivet.

Not all stainless is magnetic.

Stainless Steel should not be magnetic as it is a non ferrous Metal, but cheap stainless can be magnetic as in this case but It wont be very corrosion resistant

Glue a magnet to the lid. Bang, el fin!

old hard disk magnets are good for this

But you didn't heat test the spring!

....they have been using a wooden spoon to wedge it CLOSED, not open. :)

Actually stainless is not suppose to be attracted by magnet (so that probably not stainless)

May i suggest never snap anything on from cold to max on. Pop !

There is no filament that can withstand 400 degree; if not, he would have opened up Fusion360 do doubt.

Those indestructible rivets huh?... LOL Just drill them out, fix it and screw it pack up.

Your spring is definitely work against you as heat rises

Above 80 degrees Celsius the magnet it loses the magnetic power!!

stainless steel is non magnetic, i guessing there is ferros steel under the outer cover.

Fail to design or design to fail ?

Those rivets can be taken off and be replaced with less effort than what you made....

Not all tipes of stainless steel is ferromagnetic

"this is stainless steel and luckily magnets stick to it" what? I thought stainless steel wasn't magnetic, that's how we separate stainless steel screws from electro plated screws at work

Could have just drilled the rivets LOL

I advocate for repairs, but d statement that this oven is made obsolete to repair with fixing through rivets is just misguided.

You could have just drilled the rivets out.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kNKKdMWXr9iRZKc.html "This is stainless steel, so... magnets stick to it" - oh boy, are you in for a surprise one day. :D

I know many things are designed for replacement not repair, but when you're blaming planned obsolescence for your own inability to remove the housing cover that is only held in by screws and pressure, it makes you look inept. You kept blaming rivets, yet it's clear to see no rivets reached the cover. Instead of removing it properly (sliding backwards), you were trying to force it which can deform the housing. Also, since you finally reached the spring area, you could have done the better thing of drilling out that tiny rivet and then putting in a new one.

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I'll just buy a new one, the cost like $40

No offence but why was your first thought modify it with magnets? My first thought would be can I replace the spring that’s broken.

You are doing it wrong. Slide the outer case toward the rear. The front lip is just wedged in place. It only takes 1/2" (12mm) of movement to release it. The entire top cover will come off.

id have just put a metal hasp at the top to keep it shut and not made a video about it

Another reason that KitchenAid appliances are garbage. :(