NYCFC is a plastic team

Nearly every MLS team is a plastic team lol

The whole mls is a plastic league made out of marketing and consumers It’s another corporation No culture for the sport, no history, no identity some clubs even want to change cities due to lack of support

They gotta start somewhere ryte...the question of when did you start following/supporting a club does not matter... We all started somewhere... European,Asian, American doesn't matter.... these fans supported the club at the very start of it all...how many of European Football Clubs supportes can claim that...

Most european clubs were started by the people, e.g Hajduk Split was founded back in 1911 by a couple of students from Split, while your teams are made by corporations looking to suck money out of the people

There are a few cringy chants, but also some absolute beauties, like Real Salt Lake's Believe chant.

@@3dsaulgoodman43 Real? As in the Spanish word for royal?

Agent P please tell me that isn’t the ‘I believe that we will win’ chant...

@@jamiemidge4983 Just looked into it and it's not lol thank goodness lmao. I mean the ‘I believe that we will win’ chant is a fun little thing, but gaaaah damn it's over used

Well said mate.

evan NYRB was originally the NewYork/NewJersey Metrostars. The ownership change happened in 2006. The club still actively admires our past and so do our fans. My issue with NYCFC is that their fans are a bunch of douchebags. In our US Open Cup match against them in June they literally broke a whole row of seats in our arena. They claim to be a real club when they don’t have a real stadium and a consistent fan base. Their attempts to find a new stadium have been pathetic. They share stadiums with the New York Yankees (baseball team). This season the Yankees performed surprisingly well and made it to the playoffs. One of their games coincided with NYCFC so they had to play somewhere else. The “experienced and qualified professionals” at NYCFC decided to move their game to over 2 hours away in a different state. They are one of the biggest laughing stocks in the league, and only exist because of sheikh mansour.

Kemarinhoo Look at your average attendance then look at NYC. Enough said. NJ IS RED

Kemarinhoo The games that coincided with NYCFC were never supposed to be played in New York. They were supposed to be in Tropicana in Tampa Bay, except Hurricane Irma made it unsafe for players and fans to go to the stadium. That's why they had to be moved.

The first club to reach the CONCACAF Champion's League semifinal was from NYC in *1984* a feat that would not be matched until RSL in 2010. Want to guess the club? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't the Cosmos :)

@@supersun0079 RBA average attendance is 19,000 where as NYCFC average attendance is between 20,000 to 25,000 on both baseball stadiums I wouldn't brang about it

Also I’m not a fan of the derby trophy thing but yah I’m glad the MLS is being very original in its system.

Bayern_Lover22 3 dud hell yes

Andrew Yeah that derby trophy thing is pretty american. The same happens in college football. I'm of the thinking that if it doesn't hurt the game, it's cool

I used to thought like that. But considering they have to pay $200++ million for expansion fee and built football specific stadium. The pro-rel were still far away. But in the other side, without pro-rel this league will always be a joke

@@ryanfebrianto8973 a joke???? Lmao, just a because it isn't pure-Euro doesn't mean its bad!

Lol also not made up by MLS. Toronto has hated Montreal for decades

T tba Exactly! Strange to highlight fabricated rivalries over one of the few TRUE rivalries that has existed between two cities before the MLS was even a league!

Honestly

Rabona TV I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL!

I think this was a collab between C90 and MLS. Wouldn't surprise me that Garber hates Canada. Maybe its because we both play on grass, on real fields, not like the retards down south. Who knows. Either way the Cup is coming to Canada

Thank You from a Hard Core MLS Fan. We do believe and were are getting stronger every year.

im also british, wolves fan lol gotta be said, and I keep up with the MLS week in week out and I love it. now all I want is the best for the mls and usmnt (usmnt cos I love it when us football haters get proven wrong)

Being there at the beginning of history, never thought about that before. Pretty awesome

WOLVES WWFC1887 respect bro! Been a Columbus Crew SC supporter since 2011 and a U.S MNT fan also since 2011

I dont think the mls is that bad, the playoff system is shit and the defence is as bad as Liverpool's sometimes (I support them incase u didnt know) but some of the attacking players that ive seen are pretty good

LucasXL well said!

LucasXL MLS is not football tho...it’s soccer.

M football, soccer same shit. We love our league.

LucasXL finally, thank you.

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Yeah, it's quite sad

The NYCFC vs NY Red Bulls one is really fucking sad. Have a gander at the videos

So many haters😂 I love it. That's how u know we're doing something right when people hate on "forced rivalries"

people are only hating on it, because it's right in front of us on copa90, otherwise no one would give a toss. i didnt even realise there was a rivalry between vancouver, seattle and portland until i watched this

+Rob S Ass munch, there are plenty rivalries in the NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB. The competiveness tends to cover an array of demographics.

dramatish and if their was a relegation they would have more teams wanting to win the league for once and not have the same teams versing each other every year

TheDevilsMessenger4 um guessing ur about 6

dramatish so? its much funner to watch mls than liga bayern munich... Oops i mean bundesliga.

DCUnderdog3000 its because they struggle kicking the ball

just face it no one gives a shit about the mls it’s where are players retire because of the nice weather and it’s not that good a league since players who can no longer perform well enough in our leagues go to the mls so it’s time for the mls to stop thinking it’s the shit cuz no one gives a shit about it and no team will ever be better than Europe teams because there is no trophy to be won which matters unlike champions league premier league

One of the advantages of not having relegation is every team has a chance to win. The MLS has different champions because they have financial rules to prevent a team from buying the best players available. To MLS fans, it’s worth it rather than seeing the euro leagues have the same damn team win all the time.

Well no, because the league would be simply to big and also you would have big teams such a LA going up against teams who go for a kick about at the park every Sunday

That's different to promotion/relegation. You can still have that and also have a fair financial regulation.

HazardlyNP I feel like the main reason why there is no promotion or relegation in the MLS is that there just isn't enough popularity to create enough teams for multiple tiers/leagues. Soccer just doesn't have the same influence here that it does over in Europe. With any luck that will change in time, but for now, we're happy with what we have.

That's just how pro leagues are here in the United States. You don't drop level of play if you lose the league. It's impossible for the NFL since there isn't a lower league. Question, are college/university sports a big deal in the UK like over here, or no?

Colby Denton They were offered the opportunity on two separate occasions and turned it down.

They dont have the financial ability to. Part of the reason for that is that there is no national tv coverage of the 2nd tier here. At least i havent been able to see it. I cant even watch Indy Eleven games and theyre the biggest club in my state. The people in charge here dont want to create a culture around the game, they just want profits. Hopefully within the next few decades the literally thousands of clubs in the US will all have a fair chance.

Why do they need relegation? Show your work.

Because otherwise teams have nothing to lose, if you finish bottom every year and don't lose anything teams won't care as much

That doesn't appear to have led the four major North American sports into disaster and apathy.

Reece Morrison we'll stop copying us British then

Craig Miller lmao! in what way do we copy the british?

Craig Miller I mean. Most of those white people are descendent of English people. ENGLABD BLEW A 13 COLONY LEAD. We ended you guys and we'll gladly do it in sports. Just like the first time. It takes time.

Europe: Big teams buying leagues. MLS: Salary cap. Competitive league. Struggles internationally.

@@luisrosales9349 Never will that happen in football. MLS is full of players who have retired and its too competitive. No clubs getting relegated etc. I mean your national team is in shambles losing to the worst teams in the world.

Daniel van Maanen...Americans don’t get football violence. But Europeans didn’t until about 1998. England created this football thug culture but the authorities called us “The English Disease” whenever it kicked off. All over the BBC and radio if a fan even runs into the pitch now. They’ve ruined it in England’s Premier League. You have to go to the Championship and lower leagues for the non plastics now. Sheffield Utd have just been promoted so maybe they can do some old school thuggery. Real fans love it.

Jamis Ins Europeaans didn’t before 1998? You know that ultra’s and hooligans groups from Serbia, Greece, Germany, poland etcetera. Already exist for 50 years...

Geertje Me niffo so why did British fans do what they wanted all over Europe before about 98? We’re the European Ultra and hooligan groups you mention not bothered? Maybe they were happy to see English thugs take the piss out of the foreign stadiums and cities? Why did English fans do what they wanted with no opposition for decades?

@@jamisbillson4872 football violence was born in italy in the 80's. There was a lot of trouble in that period

Carlo Clemente is that why Italy were banned from European competition in the 80’s then! Italy have never even been in the Premier League of football trouble. Italy have absolutely no name or reputation. In fact...as most English thugs will tell you...Italy are known as melts. 20,000 British soldiers took OVER 1 MILLION Italian soldiers in North Africa during the war. The joke about the shortest book in history being “Italian war heroes” or what colour is the Italian national flag? White! For surrender. And do you know what many Italian (Roma for one if I recall?) fans used to do? On their mopeds they’d drive up behind the opposition fans with Stanley knives and cut behind the knee. Why? Maybe so they can’t be chased? Those are all facts. Give me one back. By the way mate...Ultras are embarrassing. Face painting, drum banging flag waving nonsense. Which suggests to real hooligans that Italy just don’t get it. And they never did. Which glory team do you support mate? Jive? AC? Inter? Lazily?

Because they say they’re just as good as any Euro or even Mexican team, but all they do is sign retiring players and try to quicken the growth. Football is the number 1 sport in the world, the MLS will soon be the number 1 sport in America, it’ll take years, but that’s fine. MLS is just trying to rush it.

Because teams such as Atalanta United are buying their way to success. No german club except Red Bull Leipshit bought their way to success. You support a club because of its success. We support clubs because we love them and we have a lot of history

Robin Willmann that’s not true Bayern Munich , in Europe it’s basically all the elitist football teams winning the champions league.

MLS, in my opinion, can't beat a team like Bayern Munich, but definitely could beat Sunderland and Amiens. MLS is probably on the level of the Championship.

@@robinwillmann6693 a lot of our teams don't just come out of nothing. They start out in another league, like NSL, then eventually get picked to join MLS. So it's not fans saying "oh look, I chose to support this new team" but rather fans from when it was an NSL team following them to MLS. Like all 3 Cascadia teams did.

Mohamed Haiqel they have no money

Mohamed Haiqel that team has died twice no fans second division football they’re players wont last in the top flight

+Mohamed Haiqel I hope that when NASL folds they bring NY Cosmos to MLS, or at least to USL...

They play in a stadium with like 5k seats

You fucked it up when you mentioned Pele. And true. NY Cosmos should come back and maybe rebrand a little. Also, New York RB should rebrand to Newark RB or something

I'm not a MLS hater but u can't tell me the football is decent quality Calibre of players yes, but tactically and intensity wise I'd say a lot of Asian leagues are better

Zadkovich Raj oh come on, they aren't that bad

I'm not sure about that The defence across the league is lacking and most of the time it's depending on raw talent Even Howard can't save Rapid's non-existant defence line

where do you live in europe? malta? most MLS teams couldn't even make it in the championship...

that's definitely a lie you know its fucking shit

as an MLS fan And liga MX fan I don't get it either

Wally West because yh but there actually good

Wally West because some teams dont deserve to be in the playoffs, a team that has less points than another team in a different conference somehow makes it to playoffs, not fair for the teams

Wally West cause the mx has proper passion and great fans

Wally West Liga MX has the same level of quality but has a much higher level of passion from the fans.

It's a retirement league.... Not much potential mate

Cameron David villa scored 50 goals since he joined mls

name 5 retirement players in MLS right now. you cant. also last transfer window there was 1 player over 30 signed. average age of MLS is on par with that of any normal league and a year younger than EPL

because hes a class player. hed do the same in liga MX im sure itd suit his style even better

Hawkins Stern Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Kaka, David Villa and Tim Howard. Easy.

R0b Anthony who is named after a soda drink

Lindo Hay red bull new York .

R0b Anthony Oh yeah I was thinking about Cascadia

Before they were metrostars

KingShadow11 yea & they sold their identify, tradition & history to a shitty drink company to get the same things that other clubs are getting without selling their souls . It's as disgusting as that shitty drink they're selling.

👍😂😂😂

My club was already 110 yrs old. Fuck sake

Daniel Perez I know people wont give it a chance

Bob Bob thank you for not being so arrogant and closed minded. I truly appreciate you and other people like you

I gotta say that I used to want to hate the MLS because I thought our European competitions are way better. I still believe this, but now I too realise the league has a lot of potential. I'm getting more convinced with every nice goal I see :)

Bob Bob respect❤️

Resident Sleeper thank you very much for being more open minded as well. Americans understand that European leagues are better (and I usually watch more of the EPL, Bundesliga, La Liga, than the MLS tbh) but we're trying to enjoy the sport as much as we can because we obviously can't enjoy European leagues in person, so this is all we got, so when people hate on it, it sucks

so real theyre all 🏳‍🌈

@ G M- you keep waiting for a minute, i'm gonna wait for a second.............ohhhh wait a second

Wait a... 4 year bro. Not a minute...

G M the savage level is unreal 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 OMFG

Andre Winata lmap fr

hahahah they had a EASY group and could not qualified

Joseph Garcia Garber...Garber cares about MLS being the best league. He literally said he wants MLS to be one of the top leagues by 2020. This isn't the first time he's made goalpost for this either. For him it's more about making the sport big to make more money than progress. He used to work for the NFL, he's used to working with the best.

😂 😂 😂 😂 mls is a retirement league. Most fans in the US support a player over a club. How many Americans claimed they were Barcelona fans and then became psg fans when neymar Jr went to psg. That American golden boy in Germany as well jezze America your not relevant in football. Your players are lazy and lack the hunger to learn and play in Europe. Which is the best way to go for your players. Learn how its done in Europe and go back to the mls and take that experience and develop players.

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just face it no one gives a shit about the mls it’s where are players retire because of the nice weather and it’s not that good a league since players who can no longer perform well enough in our leagues go to the mls so it’s time for the mls to stop thinking it’s the shit cuz no one gives a shit about it and no team will ever be better than Europe teams because there is no trophy to be won which matters unlike champions league premier league

good point. i didn't even realise you didn't have relegation/promotion. where are the stakes!?

That's not really true

Wow. That is why Ghana knocked you out of the World Cup in 2006. I feel sorry for Pulisic. Your comment does not have logic.

Renko the Cascadia derbys have been around since 1974..

I remember when they tried to force Toronto FC vs Montreal Impact, now after the 2016 season the rivalry is true, now it is no longer forced.

Renko I find it funny how New York City was built and people actually left red bulls to support city and now the same snakey supporters are cheering on city at derbys lol

Hudson River Rivalrys have existed in both professional and non professional (college) sports for decades.

that's cute. the merseyside derby's been around since 1892. were you lot even a country then?

It's just kids mate, the FIFA generation.

Edu Kumabe no MLS is still shit

We could if they just accepted that football is football. And handegg is handegg. No such thing as soccer

Football was huge in America before the great depression. A price cap is a good thing in my view. This season's transfer window in Europe has shown it's getting out of control now we have billionaire's owning clubs they're like fat kids in a cake shop.

Plenty of opportunities for money laundering too

Say it louder for the people in the back!🙌

Mesut Özil exactly. They see that Kaka plays here and immediately say no to all the talent from around the world who are nurtured on our academies and then play in Europe.

Because the MLS has a limit on DP's ;)

it's because the good players are really old

Itz evil Not at all

Mesut Özil those 25 yeras old cant compete an actual big competition

Not triggered, your just wrong. Football uses peoples feet, soccer is what Americans call football. The rest of the world is right and you are wrong. But we’re not triggered. Just baffled.

its actually brooklyn bridge park

Pier 5 in Brooklyn

@@brandobabini5198 I play there occasionally for fun 😂😂😂

dude, you can't even fucking spell "derby". the fucking irony...

Tom well my bad thanks for pointing that out!

Corey Phillip What local team? New York Red Bulls are in New Jersey lol

Sonny Lulgjuraj because NYC doesn’t have any space for new stadiums, hence why NYCFC plays in a baseball stadium LOL. They’re in the NY metro area, they’re a NY team at heart, same as Jets and Giants

Eric Johnson NJRB

Sonny Lulgjuraj lmao ok

NY cosmos so sad USA people have no clue of that team... that team had pele and other legends!

#EmptySeatsGalore

Tinpot clubs

LA is so overrated.

And Sporting KC we have a lot of history and always have done pretty well, we have a big rivalry with Houston also

JPBrown22 they have the most trophies. Overrated my ass

Honestly, the amount of dick measuring and attention seeking that goes on with MLS is a fuckin embarrassment. I've seen the word "cringeworthy" being tossed around these comments. Quite accurate.

Kinda feel this way about the Liga Mx. I know it will never be the biggest league in the world , because it will always be in Europe. However, I watch Liga Mx the most it has the most value to me.

Delcio Acosta clearly an American channel? Check the description, this is Copa90. I don't subscribe to Copa90US, for obvious reasons.

If only there was a way in which you did not have to watch videos and matches that you didn't want to watch....

Even the Japanese league is better

it boggles the mind. same with RB Leipzig in Germany, to be fair. another plastic, fake, corporate team.

Or Man City

I support my local team (LA Galaxy) because it is the place I've grown up, and I don't care who funds them, as long as I get to watch them play and support them with my fellow LA residents.

Every club is artificial when it's created. How could it not be? Did you find yours growing out in the woods?

Enigmatic In defense of RB Leipzig, they won promotion from Germany's lower leagues, unlike these new MLS teams that didn't have to win a place in their league. Besides it's not like RB Leipzig is any worse than any of the big name clubs in Europe, which the majority have big corporations behind them- just like RB Leipzig. So stop with the "pot calling the kettle black".

Kent Erickson it's shit it's not that hard to realise no quality or competition in it dull fans who need music to make noise no quality and no where near the level of the European or south American leagues

Bryan the chelsea fan Have you ever been inside an MLS supporters section? Have you even watched derby games on TV? How the hell would you know how our supporter culture is?

Kent Erickson we don't need to know anything about it to know it's a shit league

Bryan the chelsea fan shut up I swear u comment everywhere and ur probably just a fat 10 year old that can't play football

Bryan the chelsea fan also Burnley 3-2 Chelsea

MLS has a salary cap, don't forget that basically every PL team budget is 20x that of an MLS team

Satierdeen ha! The SJ earthquakes would destroy Newcastle weak ass 😂

Derp Herp still would love to be on what their on 😂 kaka earning like 5 million but obviously not much compared to other leagues

The premier leagues better at everything fans history quality get over it

Satierdeen as a Newcastle and Chicago Fire fan. I’d like to point out the following. 1. Newcastle lost at full strength to Sporting Kansas City in 2012. 2. Chicago was beating Man U’s starting 11 until we brought in the rookies to give them the experience. 3. Chicago, Toronto, NYCFC, and Cascadia would survive in the BPL. Not saying they’d win it, but they’d avoid relegation. Besides, if Leicester can pull a league win out if their ass after avoiding relegation, what’s that say about the quality of your league?

If you came to one of the NY derby games, you would know the hatred between the teams.

Apple Pie FC Just because there is hate doesn't mean there is meaning to the rivalry. They just hate eachother for the fun of it. It's not like european rivalries where there is history and actual reasons to dislike the other team.

We hate each other because we’re rivals

Boston and NYC

who the fuck cares about league one no one mls may not be as big as the epl but more people watch the mls then league one is it even played on tv my point is you made a really shitty point

Devin Darley 😂😂 you haven't got a clue!

you dont think they dont have pride?

Just because people don't act like hooligans doesn't mean its not a rivalry. I know the knuckledraggers in Oxford are incapable of understanding that.

KingShadow11 being from the usa... No

Bob Bob helemaal mee eens, ondanks dat ik een AZ supporter in hart en nieren ben heb ik toch respect voor vak-P, altijd een achter hun club staan en de keren dat ik bij Twente ben geweest een mooie sfeer. Respect!

If you came out to a game than I think you would feel differently. Also it's not like we're born into a team. For instance there are multiple clubs in London. If someone lives in Montana than who are they going to support?

Instead of helping the sport grow into something special, you're here spreading negativity. Congrats for contributing f*ck all

You don’t understand conferences and playoff spot fighting then.

@@okStevie Yeah but that's just for the trophy. There should be a second league with promotion to the MLS and relegation from the MLS to said league.

Soccer isn't popular enough in the United States to allow for a financially viable pro/rel system. The second and third divisions in the united states are like non league level teams in England. They are largely semi pro and no team could financially survive going down a division, it would force them into insolvency.

J jamie and why palace of all clubs? Palace fans and their songs are annoying.