They Were the Poster Child for the KKK; Now They Advocate for Antiracism

They Were the Poster Child for the KKK; Now They Advocate for Antiracism | Amanpour and Company

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In a new memoir, “The Klansman’s Son," R. Derek Black writes about their upbringing and personal transformation - from a committed white supremacist since childhood to an outspoken anti-racism advocate. The author joins the show to reflect on their journey and offer insight into why people hold onto extremist beliefs.
Originally aired on June 4, 2024
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@terrypetersen2970 Ай бұрын

Who wants to bet that this book will be banned in Florida, Texas, and Oklahoma school libraries.

@Sad_bumper_sticker. Ай бұрын

It may because they are trans :(

@AlisaPowerDashaBlackWoodsHills 26 күн бұрын

Especially oaklahoma

@insaneclownponies9599 25 күн бұрын

As someone born and raised in Oklahoma, yea. Probably be among the first.

@TriniLush7 20 күн бұрын

Unless they block the internet, it would be pointless.

@user-vd9yz1xt9v 5 күн бұрын

@@Sad_bumper_sticker.it’s not trans

@jaioxung Ай бұрын

Stories like this give me hope that we will eventually get there...eventually.

@alphaomega8373 Ай бұрын

After thinning the hate herd.

@HarryFlowerrs Ай бұрын

MAGA has put that back decades if not centuries.........

@feedtherich11 Ай бұрын

I have Hundreds of. MAGA neighbors which I have nothing to do ( I live in a Blue State. ) These folks are in a cult and nothing will change , these folks are unhinged .

@kgreen8527 Ай бұрын

It will never happen because justice has never been served!

@user-bo2yz8ft5e Ай бұрын

He chose to change but he was forced by education system. He is just extreme case but there are less extreme cases in everyday life. As if u have to be part of a group to be hateful and have a sense of superiority. Majority of whites are conditioned to be white supremacist whether in Europe, South Africa or Mexico. Whites are superior to nonwhites in Latin America, look at Mexico and Brazil

@dallingoodrich Ай бұрын

As a wise man once said "The cure for ignorance is education"

@millennialsecularandauthri3338 21 күн бұрын

He literally said that people in this movement are educated and have white collar jobs. I'm one of them.

@cd129 21 күн бұрын

David himself said Dasatan and his radical cult members have embraced the idea of miseducating their followers with the banning of books and certain curriculums. Miseducated people often have to be educated.

@cd129 21 күн бұрын

@millennialsecularandauthri3338… and your “education” proves it was lacking the most important component of education: critical thinking skills! Being “educated” with a degree does not mean you you do not need to be educated. ✌️🫶

@millennialsecularandauthri3338 21 күн бұрын

@@cd129 I got a JD and before that I decided to support a movement for people of my demographics because of it. It’s perfectly rational to take your own side, all other races do it.

@cd129 21 күн бұрын

Banning books and curriculums is a form of miseducating and under educating! ✊

@kymbartley8104 Ай бұрын

What a brave and intelligent guy. I'll check out the book.

@wholeshebang1 Ай бұрын

You must mean "brave and intelligent *person."* _They_ said _they_ are exploring _their _*_transgender identity,_* and the last question by the host asked _them_ about the change in _their _*_pronouns._* Try to *respect* _their_ choice.

@opinion3742 Ай бұрын

@@wholeshebang1 I'm sure she can manage that. Guy is quickly becoming a gender neutral term.

@theodorehaskins3756 Ай бұрын

Whoah! Let’s not make this about gender, this is about a journey of enlightenment, and his gender choice whatever it may be, is none of our business, so let’s stay focused on why this book was written? Read the title, what did the title say? Has anyone read the book?

@sillybirdy1994 Ай бұрын

She isnt a guy.

@gingerthomas5758 Ай бұрын

@@theodorehaskins3756welp, that's gross, but then we always knew there were sexual sickos in the racist groups also.

@michaelhogan4666 6 күн бұрын

Seriously, God bless this young gentleman for getting his peace in his own hands. Imagine the pain. Your OWN FAMILY. stay strong, R. DEREK BLACK.

@BE-ew2pt Күн бұрын

I agree! Also, R. Derek Black now uses they/them pronouns instead of he/him and identifies as nonbinary. It's mentioned in the video, but only briefly.

@BayouRoach Күн бұрын

Nobody seems to want to ascertain where the FAKE Birth CERTIFICATE that Orly Taitz was touting around originated and who all was involved with that. I find that very strange indeed. Touting around a FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE claiming that CITIZEN of the United States of America BORN in the United States of America was NOT BORN in the United States of America and was a completely different person all together is a much larger problem than racism. That tactic can be used against anyone of any demographic in this country by criminals, terrorist syndicates, foreign intelligence agencies, corrupt government officials, corrupt fiduciaries, a corrupt tech industry, a corrupt healthcare industry, religious institutions, people who have a hatred for religion or a specific religion, etc.

@MicheleEngel Ай бұрын

That's the key reason: A sense of belonging to a community. When your family, friends, neighbors, and the people who attend your church all believe it, it's very difficult to part ways from the community and its belief system. That human need to belong to a community supersedes intelligence and education.

@wisconsinfarmer4742 Ай бұрын

That is my thought as well. We are tribal in life after after life until our innate security no longer needs external definition of who we are.

@mimim8532 18 күн бұрын

@@wisconsinfarmer4742well said.❤

@christianthompson7495 Ай бұрын

Much respect to R. Derek Black and this channel for a great interview and superior bravery and strength to speak up and speak out! 👏

@tytrammell3368 Ай бұрын

Great moral lesson ❤ elimination of all sorts of prejudice. Thank you Derek.

@user-sf9gs2pg1b 6 күн бұрын

Usually I give people a pass for their bigotry based on their upbringing, it’s amazing that this person has been able to change for the better despite everything.

@leadwithgreeneconomy 19 сағат бұрын

Maybe we as a nation need to stop giving some people A PASS for hate and bigotry? Call out the people in your life saying bigoted things

@LA-rv2fr Ай бұрын

Michelle Martin is always masterful. So glad for this young man's desire to plumb his upbringing and live in the light. I wish him well.

@wholeshebang1 Ай бұрын

@sillybirdy1994 Ай бұрын

not a man!!!!!! Did you even watch the interview?

@giovanna722 12 күн бұрын

There's a tendancy to want to correct people who don't understand how to refer to trans people , but one should do it a kind manner. People will often revert to what they're comfortable with without meaning to offend.

@teddydavis2339 Ай бұрын

This country has had a very violent past. I admire this young man's bravery. I have difficulties understanding racial hatred, so I always find it interesting to listen to such stories. I really don't understand the so-called Christians who don't understand God wants us to love each other. Hatred holds the world back in so many ways. Could you imagine the world without hate? Wow! That would be an awesome place.

@mayenessien9370 29 күн бұрын

Your wish will soon come true. The end is very near then in Gods new world love will thrive. Psalm 37:10,11,29

@markcepeda8144 17 күн бұрын

@@mayenessien93702tim3:1-5 😇👍

@marquitaarmstrong399 5 күн бұрын

Love thrives.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@yveeriksson7437 Ай бұрын

Extremely brave person. Great interview!

@MarkSHogan Ай бұрын

It's always possible for people to learn and grow as better humans.

@opinion3742 Ай бұрын

It probably helps to be uncomfortable in your assigned gender.

@cathykrall2937 Ай бұрын

Thank you to Derek and his fellow Novo Collegians for assisting him in his educational journey . This is exactly what a true liberal arts education is all about and why Gov DeSantis and Chris Rufo etc are trying to destroy New College of Florida. As a New College alumna we support the students in trying to keep the focus on open education and inquiry not indoctrination.

@wholeshebang1 Ай бұрын

You must mean *them.* Derek said _they_ are exploring _their _*_transgender identity,_* and the last question by the host asked _them_ about the change in _their _*_pronouns._* Try to *respect* _their_ choice.

@ZoeMC369 Ай бұрын

I am so grateful for the open education, critical thinking and supportive community offered by new college. I was there when Derek started and people knew about his background but that’s not what defines him. Go Derek!

@illegitiminoncarborundum1323 Ай бұрын

@@ZoeMC369yet you ignore their pronouns…you are apart of the problem.

@hildeschmid8400 Ай бұрын

@@illegitiminoncarborundum1323there are people who believe and support transgender people, but let's face it, many, many people have grown up with the old pronouns, and mistakes are made. Perhaps a gentle reminder would have been more appropriate.

@ZoeMC369 Ай бұрын

@@hildeschmid8400⁠thank you. When i went to school with Derek, “he” was the pronoun used, and I was referring to the person I knew back then, as I knew them! Also I think ostracizing others for a simple pronoun slip is more problematic than the error itself. Although now I wonder, in talking about a person in the time before they transition, would it be ever appropriate to use their former pronouns? Idk.

@cherylalt101 Ай бұрын

Excellent interview. This never-ending anthem of the south will rise again continues piercing the heart of America. From the end of the Civil War, the United Daughters of the Confederacy have been rewriting our history. This group is responsible for the majority of all the Confederate statues and monuments around the country. They have also been extremely influential in selecting history textbooks for many of the public schools across America. It's hard to believe, but to this day, this group is wielding much power and spreading much misinformation about the cause of the Civil War and downplaying any part played by slavery. Much of America's history has truly been whitewashed and imo the government has been complicit in this in so many ways when they should have been much more aggressively working to stop these same old south will rise again white nationalist beliefs from dividing and destroying us all.

@Maliceless100 Ай бұрын

SO TRUE

@anastasiabeaverhausen8220 Ай бұрын

Well said.

@wholeshebang1 Ай бұрын

I was not aware of that!

@tlee4218 Ай бұрын

Yet the leaders are the white men not the women. Yes they have their corner the men let them lead the nit picking work but men rule not women.

@Livingtheinvisiblelife Ай бұрын

I’d like to see the sources you have that prove this

@linalesia5188 6 күн бұрын

It is always amazing to see the change in demeanor in people who have let go of hateful ideologies. They seem relaxed, peaceful and attractive. Hate is a killer of souls.

@SixOneNiner23 Ай бұрын

Good for this kid, I was a stupid right wing troll and took anti-rascist college classes and it changed my life. Blessings all we need to stick together more then ever.

@sohu86x 2 күн бұрын

Glad to hear you changed. The alt right keeps churning out all of these hateful, misogynistic, racist teens and young people. It's despicable to me.

@leadwithgreeneconomy 19 сағат бұрын

That’s why the right is attacking education

@louisachalarca6494 Ай бұрын

Love kids finding themselves ❤

@brucebennett5338 Ай бұрын

Well done, Mr. Black. Respect. Yasher koach.

@carolbulmer8253 Ай бұрын

Great interview! Thank you👏👏👏👏👏

@rebekahcuriel-alessi2239 Ай бұрын

Great conversation.

@cynthia4326 Ай бұрын

R. Derek Black ~ THANK YOU

@michellelattanzi8110 Ай бұрын

So grateful for this person's incredible story and the courage they have to tell it. It's an example of how delusion works, i.e. the stories we tell ourselves. Each person is responsible for interrogating who we authentically are, independent of the culture and society in which we were raised. Everyone is vulnerable to the right kind of manipulation. We owe that to the victims of historic injustice.

@feedtherich11 Ай бұрын

Welcome Derek to the right side of the world, ❤

@toddleyland1131 Ай бұрын

Gives me hope in humanity. Inspiring 🙏🏼

@laurellussen3512 Ай бұрын

Wow. I will read the book and return to this salient conversation. I appreciate you both.

@mytruecrimelibrary Ай бұрын

Happy Pride ❤🧡💛💚💜💙

@JamFlava1 Ай бұрын

F 🏳️‍🌈

@o0R3stless0o Ай бұрын

🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈

@tysonb3568 Ай бұрын

Whoo hoo!

@amyfake1406 Ай бұрын

Love to Derek🤗🤗🤗. Definitely purchasing his book ❤

@msmacmac1000 Ай бұрын

Brave and beautiful young man.❤ what a tragedy for New College and Florida- and all of US

@Girlhead Ай бұрын

Derek could have disappeared into obscurity, but they went the extra step and now they speak out. Amazing.

@basicallyno1722 7 күн бұрын

What an intelligent, thoughtful and honest person.

@eliannafreely5725 23 күн бұрын

Wow - this is the exact outcome I hoped for, for this kid, when I saw their childhood interview. What a thoughtful and kind person. I thought it was interesting that, while outsiders describe hate groups in terms of who and why they hate, the author described it based on what they love. I think that distinction is important, if we want to get through to people. I don't think fascists/supremacists view themselves as small minded (obviously). They view themselves as having a sense of responsibility both personal and community, and of citizenship. They don't view themselves as evil, but as protectors. I thought it was a fascinating insight when the author said that what is needed is to expand the circle of people for whom they feel responsible.

@akosuakoranteng3327 5 күн бұрын

Yeh, super interesting observations!

@FelisImpurrator Ай бұрын

They're kinda cute, ngl. Coming out as trans in the same book as "how I escaped the cult of white nationalism" is a power move. Based.

@snorristurluson5849 Ай бұрын

He, not they

@FelisImpurrator Ай бұрын

@@snorristurluson5849 Wrong, and no one cares that you think otherwise.

@snorristurluson5849 Ай бұрын

@@FelisImpurrator wrong? I'm not the one who's intentionally fking up English grammar. Also the vast majority of ppl care bout what I think bc they understand that it's absolutely a bunch of silly, ridiculous nonsense fairy tale horseshit for a singular individual male to go by the pronouns they them

@faithhope5833 29 күн бұрын

He rejects himself. No confidence in himself so he’s all confused.

@FelisImpurrator 29 күн бұрын

@@faithhope5833 Source: You made it up. This kind of loony-bin nonsense is exactly why no one with two braincells to rub together takes conservatives seriously.

@dolceanstar 14 күн бұрын

What a beautifully intelligent and eloquent young man

@awoken1445 Ай бұрын

"We shall overcome..." Truth always wins! Peace!💙

@bluesquirrel3919 Ай бұрын

Hope he'll be safe and watch his back, because KKK ain't gonna' be happy with him. Be safe R. Derek, very brave you are.

@gabbylaughs0574 Ай бұрын

Excellent interview. What an honorable person to have come out on the other side of that depraved movement.

@fizzedupslade4082 Ай бұрын

Very enlightening interview. Many thanks.

@chikamsoodume3601 Ай бұрын

“As long as something is serving your community, people can be convinced to believe anything “ ..

@nicki66 Ай бұрын

I actually have worked with grassroots organizations in Florida to support them in trying to become to stem this disturbing attack on the 2SLGBTQ2+ community, particularly the trans community. Terrific story and reporting! Thanks so much for sharing this with your audience. R. Derek Black, I love that speak up for the world you want to see.❤😊

@marquitaarmstrong399 5 күн бұрын

David Duke. Shivers from the past. Thanks for sharing your story. Derek.

@rosbel4119 4 күн бұрын

I knew about Derek and their father because their dad is from the same town in Alabama my paternal grandfather is from but wondered what happened to Derek since denouncing their racist father. Glad to see they’re still fighting racism.

@davidroberts5577 Ай бұрын

Happy Pride Month 🏳️‍🌈

@glenagarrett4704 Ай бұрын

That is one morally brave person right there.

@justmyopinion9883 7 күн бұрын

R Derek Black is a very brave guy. I admire him for speaking out the way he is. I want to read his book.

@stephenhansen Ай бұрын

I am curious to know how he gets along with his father and crew now.

@gailflanagan1214 Ай бұрын

Good question. I'm guessing, that's going to be a struggle but I hope he's opening their minds if only a crack.

@sandraloomis8179 Ай бұрын

They are one of the bravest, most love filled humans i’ve had the pleasure to listen to… ❤️

@maxlogan215 Ай бұрын

Wow…very deep. This is a courageous young man. Thank you

@hooliganlexx 12 күн бұрын

It takes courage to break the cycle. ❤

@user-xu2rv7vi5h Ай бұрын

Thank you, for this.

@maryjane2965 Ай бұрын

Great interviewer,great guest!!!🎉❤

@janetkruth3813 Ай бұрын

Glad to see that this exceptional man is apparently not in the country. Hopefully he's not even where the video shows. Interesting that he attended New College in Florida, the liberal arts college that Ron DSantis later destroyed.

@stevegovea1 Ай бұрын

I give major props to him for being able to change from that environment.

@inn8self 24 күн бұрын

Somebody said that a BBC triggered that positive change.

@jenniferpogue5464 Ай бұрын

Smart person and brave to own their own life… A lot smarter than I would have ever thought that movement would produce.

@tracevicente Ай бұрын

Important interview. Thank you both.

@maryburrell3948 Ай бұрын

I would read this book for sure.

@hildeschmid8400 Ай бұрын

I wonder if this book will be banned in Florida? I hope not! I definitely want to read this, and will buy it, even if they ban it here. There are a lot more states that don't ban them. This young person has looked beyond his past, and gives us hope for the future.

@RoseA.Dewine 25 күн бұрын

Thank you young person! You helped me understand, well, more than I did before. I hope you are able to help shift some hearts and minds! I wonder what I can do to help you in your quest and hopefully help heal our country's bitterly devided soul.

@inn8self 24 күн бұрын

❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

@arianahoule7223 Ай бұрын

This was a very informative and moving interview. Bravo, to this young man for having the courage to speak his truth. I am sure he has helped a lot of people. Sending loving thoughts to everyone.

@djack915 Ай бұрын

Brave and smart ❤

@mattlohr Ай бұрын

Just finished this book. It's a hell of a story.

@gittel_malky Ай бұрын

Very intelligent and well-spoken person.

@shermanwellons Ай бұрын

Bravo to this young man👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@chrischase7300 Ай бұрын

Wow! What a great interview.

@LisaLGruman Ай бұрын

Very special interview. Very special to see the transformation in this super articulate, caring person. Thank you for presenting this.

@i-6820 5 күн бұрын

I’ve shared this video with everyone I know and then some. I only wish it could have been shared sooner but better late than never. This offers so much hope! We can only hope for the amount of insight it took to get here.

@pauobunyon9791 Ай бұрын

No matter what you did or believed anyone can learn and change if the desire is sincere

@LisaRichards_123 Ай бұрын

“I was a racist, because I care about my family,” doesn’t work. It’s that you did not want to think for yourself. Just like all the people that want Fox News or Donald Trump to think for them. And that want them to tell them who to hate. So many people are afraid to think, but glad he came around.

@annmariebusu9924 3 күн бұрын

A large proportion of people are lemmings.

@vivalaleta Ай бұрын

My mother shipped me over to my much older and very religious sister in jr high. What I went through with them and how I came out of it after I was apart from the religion made me a new person. A good bunch of it was based on, not hate, but disgust at least.

@ritahall8148 Ай бұрын

I read that a test to determine if someone was a Republican was to determine how easily disgusted that person was. 95% of the easily disgusted persons were Republicans.

@devos3212 Ай бұрын

Gonna pick up their book today

@EllieM_Travels Күн бұрын

Very intelligent and thoughtful. Thank you for sharing!

@pppantz Ай бұрын

Education isn't just school. Experience among people that are different than ourselves is valuable knowledge. I am in rural Colorado now and I see the ignorance that comes with a lack of experiences prevalent. People that do not experience a varied life and remain insulated can convince themselves of anything.

@billnickels6667 Ай бұрын

Wow. Prescient ideas. Brilliant social observation

@howardcrews4410 21 күн бұрын

THis happens alot. People who get raised in racism grow up seeing the truth and realize they were raised wrong.

@MrTimothy87 8 күн бұрын

I commend you for your change..we all grow from the mistakes we make and it takes a big person to know amd to change..May God bless you..

@SparklyCoconut-le3fu Ай бұрын

Great interview

@davidk1493 Ай бұрын

What an enlightening interview! I am reminded of a quote from Thich Nhat Hanh: “There is the mud, and there is the lotus that grows out of the mud. We need the mud in order to make the lotus.”

@wisconsinfarmer4742 Ай бұрын

good one.

@LethalSaliva Ай бұрын

I like it👍

@onecompass7290 Ай бұрын

His father looks like a stone cold psychopath.

@karenreese4910 Күн бұрын

My God bless you‼️❤️👍🏽

@theblackcottonball5987 Ай бұрын

So I googled him because Jenny Jones is such an old talk show but he looks like 21 years old in this interview. Shockinly, he is 35!

@janetpartyka5968 Ай бұрын

Good job, Derek!! This is a teachable moment if there ever was one.

@cathypreston1095 Ай бұрын

Good on you. Thank you for sharing your experiences. Indoctrinating children and vulnerable people seem to learn that (All-or-nothing' thinking, a reluctance to question authority, intense fear of punishment and a lack of empathy for non-believers) You are a brave and kind soul.

@insaneclownponies9599 25 күн бұрын

As an enby who has their own complicated history with far-right ideals (though more of the national populist variety than anything racial), Derek's story inspires me to wanna recount my own history. To relay the nuances of my own experiences and how I ultimately got away from it.

@ComradeCatpurrnicus Ай бұрын

A testament to education and socialization. When we learn to critically think and socialize around people with differences, we're all better off and more likely to be empathetic and understanding people. I'm so glad they were able to escape ❤

@maryegarcia2432 4 күн бұрын

Thank you for your bravery! To rise above your upbringing and share your growth is a gift and inspiration to us all! It is important to recognize that our colleges are under attack because they can be so transformative and challenge the status quo. Thank you for bringing this to light for us all.

@matthewsimpson1268 5 сағат бұрын

This is a very interesting and insightful video. Very brave to speak about this.

@SuzyGarcia324 12 сағат бұрын

Wow, what a beautiful human being!

@billbernhard3582 Ай бұрын

Hate is easy. "Different" opens the door to Distance ! We can work on this, or decide to remain upset by the indices of 'different'. Better would be to interact, witnessing the value of someone brand new and unknown, without the pre-judgement. We KNOW individuals like Trump. We can and should judge them. But we cannot know a race, a religion, a socio/economic group without doing the hard work of meeting and assessing the thing we do not know yet.

@wisconsinfarmer4742 Ай бұрын

I sometimes think in the eternal scheme of things that DJT has great courage to volunteer his person as a model of what every conscious being finds reprehensible. Kind of like a national, and international, public flogging. We have to get these things out in the light for people to see[hopefully in ourselves] question them and realize what is useful and eliminate what is not.

@Donnie-Lee-Gringo Ай бұрын

Good interview with them/her, that I watched and listened to all the way to the end. As I read some of these comments below, I think som people who commented did not listen all the way to the end. R. Derek Black explained that her pronouns are They/She, and that they/she indentifies as Trans. So writing He and Mr and Guy in the comments is not respecting her/their identity.

@DH-uw3us Ай бұрын

They are confused.

@hildeschmid8400 Ай бұрын

I like how you phrased this. You weren't denigrating the commenters, just giving a gentle reminder. I'm 68, but when I saw the pronouns in the title, I realized to use non-specific pronouns. I wish them all the best, and am planning to buy their book.

@Donnie-Lee-Gringo Ай бұрын

@@DH-uw3us or possibly you are not open minded enough to let go of your possible confusion ?

@DH-uw3us Ай бұрын

@@Donnie-Lee-Gringo Rewatch the interview. They even admitted themself that they are confused. Unless this person is a hermaphrodite, they don't have a leg to stand on. They are making this a lot more complicated than it is, but it's very simple.

@seppo532 Ай бұрын

@@DH-uw3us yeah, I bet it’s hard to come out as a transgender woman when you’ve grown up in the Kkk-especially when it’s pretty mainstream to attack transgender women! I bet the nonbinary identity feels like the much safer option. If they identified as a trans woman, the comment section would be full of hatred. If you’re not 100% sure about your identity, that open hostility can really suck.

@bon9410 6 күн бұрын

Education should be teaching people to think critically. It should not tell them what to think. Students should feel free to share themselves and ideas with others. This young man is truly a good example of self awareness and others being open enough to listen and share other perspectives with him. His courage to share his personal experiences is commendable and shows that we can all change and look at one another with respect and dignity.

@caroljackson9363 22 күн бұрын

Congratulations on your new journey!💙

@rozchristopherson648 2 күн бұрын

Keep walking forward, young man.

@izabelreis5274 2 күн бұрын

What an interesting interview! Thanks

@victoriagallop9164 Ай бұрын

This young man has a lot of courage

@wholeshebang1 Ай бұрын

You mean, "this young *person."* _They_ said _they_ are exploring _their _*_transgender identity,_* and the last question asked by the host was about the *change* in _their _*_pronouns._* Try to *respect* _their_ choice.