Lol I was thinking the same thing. XD

hes good at arguing but has alot of stupid positions lol

Gotta admit it... can't listen to either without thinking about chalk on a blackboard!!!

i was thinking the same thing!

Hahhahahahahahahahaha. Nailed it.

He doesn't understand much.😅

He's a sociopath that shills for money. He has no morals, only self-preservation. A sociopath is literally biologically wired without empathy. They are master manipulators. You will find a lot of them on the internet.

You are correct

All 5 missed one thing from the start, but Destiny was the worst... 80% of Dem registered voters say they will vote for Biden. But the majority of the country no longer are Dems, or even Republicans. They are 3rd party and indie voters. What does Biden offer THOSE voters, who seriously are not "anyone but Trump" because they know that the beurocratic state will not be threatened by Donald because he already tired, and they crushed him I am not voting Against anyone. Give me someone to vote for.

how

Cenk tried to run against him and lost, so did Marianne, twice, and lost twice

Why would they? 😂

Could you imagine having to listen to a debate between Biden and RFK Jr, would be like nails on a chalkboard, 2 dinosaurs that can’t talk.

@@certifiedlb3451 ... I don't know, I thought they believed in a democratic process... my mistake

Thank God! RFK Jr. is a desiccated husk of a human being.

they're to blame for Hillary debacle and RGB SCOTUS debacle as well

Mainstream Media is to blame for not criticising serial liar Trump. Wonder why that is?

shut up you idiot lol

Stop writing in votes bro.

He endorsed him and used hia platform to get him votes

💯 agreed!

Good point. Statistically speaking, a brokered convention has a 0% history of resulting in a winning candidate.

​@@nathantripathy And 100% of incumbent presidents with under 40% approval in the months preceding election day lost. Badly. I'll take a brokered convention over an incoherent genocide-sponsoring dementia patient any day.

Yep

Really? So we are setting precedent that despite our party rules, if someone wins virtually all the delegates in primary election, that if another person polls any amount better then them in the period before the convection that the party big shots and megadonors get to replace the guy who won the primary ELECTION using some invented process that cancels the primary vote?!?!

You mean like social security and the SSI checks they send you ?

@SteveM-gj2vy yea, in 1935. Not much else since. What's more, Joe Biden, the DEMOCRAT, advocated to cut SS his entire Senate career. Pffft...

​@@SteveM-gj2vyI can't stand Trumpers

​@SteveM-gj2vy you mean the things that keep the country rolling that are slowly getting stripped away?

​@@SteveM-gj2vyNo like paying for illegals in 5 star hotels, forcing vaccines, staggering inflation, weaponizing the DOJ, pushing pedo rights, fiery but mostly peaceful protests, pushing us into WW3.....

😂

That's what the Trump campaign is paying him to do. He works for them.

Ya he’s a mouth breather 😂

😂😂😂

“You are my DENSITY!”-George McFly

🤡 🌎

Yeah exactly. His record means absolutely nothing when he’s not the same person.

​@markyoung2246 You pepple knew how bad Bidens' health was in 2019. You don't care about our country. You have been letting Jill Biden and Hunter to run the country.

Dude....RIGHT?!?!?! It is beyond embarrassing.

You mean 2 of them?

@@xAJxo only one has dementia... maybe you also have dementia to say something like that?

@@Pancajayna bruh, your cope is embarrassing.

The Democratic Party created this problem. The pool of other candidates is incredibly weak. Your best chance (Joe Manchin from WV) isn't even a Democrat anymore.

Those guest were terrible. A new low for TYTs

Destiny is weak and fear based.

​@jesse_co You think that he is fair-based but you agree with a guy who benefits if Trump wins? Progressive media needs Donald Trump to win because that's going to be excellent content for them and therefore they're going to make a ton of money. You listening to people who have a conflict of interest with you. You're the one that's going to suffer from whatever Trump does not these millionaire content creators that can live in anywhere in the country They can even make their videos in another country if they wanted to. The stakes are high for us not for them. I feel like Cenk. If you ask me my opinion on where my instincts are they are with what he's saying however I don't make decisions based on my feelings I make my decision based on facts and logic. There is no data that aligns with what this guy saying. The data says that every alternative does worse than Joe Biden except for camela Harris but she only does better by one point. So getting rid of him to replace him with somebody who trails him is lunacy

@thedebatemechannel4746 1. I said "fear based," not "fair-based." 2. EVERY media outlet benefits from a Trump win, and most of them are pushing Biden. I agree with Cenk on the substance. Biden has lost his ability to win. Your long-winded argument didn't hold up, sorry.

Let me make a baseless statement... and have mindless trolls like it.

Destiny probably made a ton of money in the last 4 years. He ain't hurtin'. (he also has a hot Swedish girlfriend. Grrr!)

I thought she left him for that guy in the dr​ess?@@johnpjones182

@@johnpjones182 Boy are you out of date

There’s a subset of Americans who have made a ton of money under this POTUS. You don’t seem to be one of them. Density, the Morning Joe & The View hosts and that TikToc kid who acts like he wants to squeeze the piss from JB’s used adult diapers into his morning smoothie every day, are some of them!! Sadly most of us are barely scraping by since he took office and it’s only getting worse!!

A vote not for biden is a vote for trump. You leftist will kill this country with this attitude

Yeah, that really bugged me. I think there's an argument for keeping Biden, but man, that was just a stupid blatant strawman. Obviously everyone on this panel would vote for anything over Trump. Surely they could have found someone with non-strawmen arguments in favor of the pro-Biden side.

@KaitlynBurnellMath what strawmans were made? I'm pretty sure cenk has said on his show that he won't vote for biden. Not voting for biden is a vote for trump.

@barkerrhett Agree - completely disgraceful

I see the average TYT viewer has issues with comprehension. His point was that Cenk wouldn't support Biden regaurdless of how he perfromed in the debate, and wants to put forth an untried candidate that has a higher failure possibility than Biden.

Age alone is enough to make you completely switch sides and support Trump? Tell me you’re unprincipled and don’t know anything about politics without telling me

​@@certifiedlb3451Unprincipled? You voted for a dude that showered with a 12 yr old.

He said he would vote for Biden even if he was over a 100 years old, not Trump. He is the never Trump guy.

Primary is fair, Bernie loses them. He's not electable.

He's the worst. How does he have a platform

@@noreenmcgovern1023 Destiny is triggering people just by existing. Lmao. There is no such thing as palestine, only Israel. Day 1: Palestinians dancing, singing, celebrating and cheering for hamas for what they called "VICTORY". Day 2 onwards: Crying like babies and seeking for help, lmao. Israel has a right to exist and has a right to defend itself. Hamas should never have started something they couldn’t finish 🇮🇱. There wouldn't be any borders or fences if gaza wasn't a terror base, and that's a fact, whether you like it or not. P.S. Mohaumad had a child lover. Justice for Aisha (she was 6).

Destiny is triggering people just by existing. Lmao. There is no such thing as palestine, only Israel. Day 1: Palestinians dancing, singing, celebrating and cheering for hamas for what they called "VICTORY". Day 2 onwards: Crying like babies and seeking for help, lmao. Israel has a right to exist and has a right to defend itself. Hamas should never have started something they couldn’t finish 🇮🇱. There wouldn't be any borders or fences if gaza wasn't a terror base, and that's a fact, whether you like it or not. P.S. Mohaumad had a child lover. Justice for Aisha (she was 6).

​@@James-8841I'm not Jewish (I'm Polynesian/Japanese/Roma) but I'm a woman and I support Israel over Hamas. Israelis wouldn't kill me or r*pe me just for being a woman. Love and prayers from the US 🇺🇸❤🇮🇱

Seems like he was the only one making an adult argument .. lol By the way Cenk just made a video essentially cheer leading the Biden "defections" confirming what Destiny said in this debate.

13 points ahead of who?

Exactly!

Bernie was a serious challenger to Biden in 2020, and then out of nowhere, Buttigieg drops out, effectively sending the non-Bernie votes to Joe. It was almost as if some kind of deal was made behind the scenes to convince Buttigieg to drop out. The establishment doesn't like Trump, but it REALLY doesn't like Bernie.

Too bad he was destroyed by Biden, who then proceeds to destroy Trump as well.

And for the record just about everyone who "wins" the debates loses the elections

​@@ooulalah4333Yep. John Kerry, Mitt Romney and Hilary Clinton never became president.

Yes stop saying age😮, I'm 82, here on KZfaq comments and cooking a large meal at the same time😅! Btw, I've been retired 20 years from teaching 5th grade. We need a new candidate!

EXACTLY

Check out any interview with Australia’s Paul Keating

Yes and Biden’s not sharp or witty. Biden’s had dementia for over 4 years now.

The problem is we have elected 8 white men born in the 40's as president and they are all corporate serving stooges. Biden started the student debt crisis that he loves to say he fixed which he definitely didn't fix anything because he works for the predatory lenders!

At least a vegetable cannot suspend the constitution, something Trump has explicitly threatened to do.

@@c-spam9581 Hey, I think both parties are cults

@@c-spam9581what’s it like to be retarded?

Most Democrats are not in their right minds. Most can't tell you what a woman is.

Right? It is absolute INSANITY!!!! Imagine if the Republicans did this. They would NEVER STOP CRYING. EVER.

(The dems would never stop crying)

the primary already happened, stop being a schizo

@@Zurph-qs1te which primary? the one where party establishment bullied and guilted and forced everyone out who tried to run against Biden? if that happened in some wartorn third world nation we'd be in shaking our fingers at it and the poli-sci majors would have a few names for what that is besides democracy

​@Zurph-qs1te there was no primary. If there had been, Biden would not be the candidate.

How are they Anti-democratic?

@@Wate the practices they engage in within their own party. The DNC with the cooperation of the liberal media CNN, MSNBC, ABC, ensured no other democratic candidate had any airtime essentially rigging the primary for Joe Biden. And yet they were able to get airtime on Fox News. They also squashed any primary debate from happening. Now we are in the situation we are now because of the Democratic party elite. I say this as a Democratic voter myself.

@@Wate you didn't notice how they manipulated the primaries? Florida and n. Carolina didn't even HAVE dem. primaries and they manipulated the media where Biden challengers barely got ANY media exposure at ALL. They totally, TOTALLY manipulated the system in Biden s favor...... THAT'S anti democracy. They didn't give we the people a CHANCE to even consider anybody else because they shoved Biden down our throats, TWICE now and silenced the opposition to Biden. Now they're trying to hide just how feeble Biden is and REFUSE to give the people another better candidate . That's not democracy...... that's INSTALLING an oligarch That's not democracy

​@@Wate Because they rig primaries to make progressive candidates lose the nomination. And they also smeared Bernie Sanders with attack ads calling him a commie etc

TYT IS A PURE CULT "ONLY WE TELL YOU THE TRUUTH" that's what's ludicrous. that anyone even listens to these people. #tytcult #CENKisJIMJONES #ChurchOfCenk More dangerous rhan Scientology --L Ron Uygur

Sadly the money raised for JB can’t be used by anyone else except Kamala. It would be very hard to raise the money for a full and successful campaign now.

What credibility? 😁

You don't know what gaslighting means.

I'm pretty sure it was more of a "just so we're all on the same page" thing, not sure why Cenk flew off the handle over it. Not every concession is bad.

@@ALocalClown Dying on the hill of existing in the same world is a waste of everyone's time. I know people love Cenk's toxic masculine energy, but fighting every single thing a person says just to fight is horrendously unproductive.

@@nathantripathy Gaslighting means intentionally manipulating someone into questioning their own reality e.g. knowingly saying someone said something that they didn't actually say. Destiny knows Cenk is going to vote for the democratic nominee no matter what, but he is trying to convince the audience otherwise to get a leg up on the debate. He wants the audience to think there is some ulterior motive for Cenk to be against Biden. Destiny wants the audience to think Cenk is against Biden because he doesn't agree with his policies so he wants to sneak a progressive or someone more left leaning in to replace Biden. This is gaslighting. It's well known what Cenk's stance is. He has said multiple times that he would want any generic democrat over Biden. Cenk does not want Biden because he does not think Biden could beat Trump again.

exactly. I would have voted for Cenk in every election if I could, just because he's a fighter.

​@@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584 He's also a truth teller in a world full of liars.

But Cenk also shows ignorance, arrogance, bigotry and stupidity. Most people catch up on that solely by his extremist rhetoric, which is show yourself as angry, emotional, unable to think straight, unable to see any nuance or compromise and belittling/labeling anyone he dislikes.

💯 exactly!

Because liberals are the weakest and most naive humans. They know literally nothing about domestic or foreign policy. The right and left are the only ones who arent cowards. :/

what do you expect from a guy whose name is Destiny…..😂

@@patrickmitchell4134 eheheh his name is destiny, you got him xDDDD

Yes it is

​@scottinterestsall this dude knows how to do is talk a lot of premium bullshit real fast. He's a fraud.

Cenk is supportive of party insiders picking the nominee. We don't seem to care about that.

And a DNC fanboy.

hes more of a knee jerk defender of institutional norms and loves to instinctually argue against the current momentum

So, he's like a normal functioning member of the society?

@@karllaur3866 I guess If you think crony capitalism is normal. Personally I’m against a rigged economy, but ok …

​@karllaur3866 A patently broken society.

Not to mention that the DNC is what got us into this mess in the first place. The DNC should have run Biden in 2016 instead of Hillary Clinton. Her hubris, her sense of self-entitlement, "It's My Turn!" cannot be overstated. Then there's the DNC's pied-piper strategy to elevate Trump as the Republican candidate in the primaries, which backfired spectacularly.

NOBODY was talking about that prior to the election, including you.

@@PeacefulPariah Michael Moore was certainly ringing the alarm bells when Hillary failed to campaign once in Michigan if care to know.

More like a friend that is trying to drive while on that state and won’t listen to you when you tell him he’s crazy if he thinks he can drive 🤷

We can do better. "All we got" isn't going to beat Trump. The whole world has now seen the shell of a man that Biden has become.

The DNC didn’t want to have this conversation; so they didn’t.

In reality it all comes down to the Biden campaign, no one is going to make him step down. If he did then I do think we could get a stronger candidate in place, which is pretty much anyone who can stay on point and make a persuasive argument at this point.

We were having this debate a year ago. Many, many, many of us said he should drop out then. But Joe is apparently not much different from Trump, in that both care more about grabbing power than they care about our country. It's a pity because Joe had the opportunity to go out with a proud legacy. As a President, he did a fine job. But now he will go down in history as the guy whose insatiable ego helped end the USA.

The party of yelling at sky, apparently is getting their rocks off by putting a good number of the politically uninvolved through a rollercoaster ride that did not need to happen.

Biden is sadly the best candidate bc he has the most popular name, let's be honest. Idk why Destiny AND Cenk fail to mention this. The strongest candidate outside of Biden in such short notice is Newsome... Newsome wouldn't stand a chance

Destiny is also on Adderall.

I thought he was in the kitchen making a sandwich 😂

@@Texas612Honey Maybe he was... Thank you. CLANG CLANG. Ok let's take an apartment tour. It was jarring wasn't it?

ya, people would like to stay alive. imagine that. Trump in office will easily spell 10 million people dying within 6 years in the USA. Trump said he would deport 15 million people, and thus collapse our entire economy overnight. ya, people hate trump because that's the right thing to do.

Trump broke him

As it should be. If you vote for Trump, you are legitimately insane.

The only way I'll vote for Trump is if he is in a coma.

But why, that only proves TDS to the ¹⁰th power for that person.... I can see somebody saying I'll choose Biden even though Biden is a vegetable on life support not even breathing on his own but I'm still voting for Biden and lose by a landslide resembling Reagan's landslide in 1984😂😅 I agree with whoever Biden will lose I'ma go farther and say no democrat this election cycle can beat Trump, democrats put their self in the position they're in. As a matter of fact democrats need to use some cheap fakes, Truthfully the only way to beat Trump is to have an anonymous person wearing a Joe Biden hyper realistic face mask on so none of Biden's flaws and mishaps occur.

Destiny is more logical than you'll ever be. No one is saying Biden is the ideal candidate, but he can always be replaced AFTER the election. If he gets replaced now, it's extremely messy. If Kamala is natural conclusion, then we can transition to her via the 25th amendment at anytime post-election.

@@Placid_Falcon and voters should vote for someone who wouldn't serve his term why?

@@sascharai1335Crank is completely out of his mind on most issues

@@sascharai1335 LOL its probably just fking Destiny on his spam account, or some kid he paid to spam bullshit... theres no point in talking to these people

Now?

Omg right??!!

He's not even on the left, he hates the left more than anything. He's to the right of even establishment Dems (who are full on right-wing).

He's like completely in line with the current administration, who are his viewpoints opposing? The far-left who have virtually no support outside of the internet?

Classic opposing viewpoints like lets vote for the incumbent democrat

@@goodmonson9903 Yeah, when the majority don't think he's fit to serve....

@@tablesalt2628 not hard to be in the majority when you align yourself with republicans

He's not even center left, he's to the right of establishment dems, who are full on right-wing.

Destiny is triggering people just by existing. Lmao. There is no such thing as palestine, only Israel. Day 1: Palestinians dancing, singing, celebrating and cheering for hamas for what they called "VICTORY". Day 2 onwards: Crying like babies and seeking for help, lmao. Israel has a right to exist and has a right to defend itself. Hamas should never have started something they couldn’t finish 🇮🇱. There wouldn't be any borders or fences if gaza wasn't a terror base, and that's a fact, whether you like it or not. P.S. Mohaumad had a child lover. Justice for Aisha (she was 6).

Very good analysis.

He's not on the left at all, he's a centrist and one that needs Wikipedia to even debate lmao

He is not center-left at all. He is a corporate Dem, Center Right. please. Sanders is a center-left person.

Yes, even after watching this I still don't know who this destiny guy is, but he's a moron 😂

Yes! Yes! Yes! 💯 agreed.

Thats not how it works anymore. Vote 3rd party. Vote rfk jr!

@@breelee4362 no.

@@breelee4362 RFK? NOOOOOO JUST SAY NO!

@@eagzsez8925 keep voting for the uniparty bc that's been working out so great for everyone. SMH.

In that case Kamala Harris would take over which would be the next logical candidate if biden stops

The fact that he's making that argument is a perfect reason why you should never run a candidate like that. That specific argument works against Biden. He's just too stupid to see it.🙄

Biden has proven to be able to remember twice that amount. Jokes on you.

@@dannystillschooling7768 The issue is that Biden had probably tried to remember lots of facts and figures to lots of questions and statements that were never asked. Anyone would get confused over trying to come up with the right one. How many facts and figures do you think Trump remembered? None. He did not even answer the question most of the time. Trump just gave the same (wrong) talking points he always gave about topics unrelated to the question. ..but he gave them fast and forcefully. Deflection. Heck, I did not prep for the debate and I knew how much Bullsh*t Trump was spewing, and I am almost 74!

Biden stuttered with 2 answers in 90 minute debate. I'm pretty sure he does remember a ton. Fuck all this Biden hate. You're just doing yourself disservice by continuing these Russian talking points.

Ehhh i mean, he can. The whole Trump lied was started by Biden. And media ran with it.

He sure likes the sound of his own voice.

Just like fat turk ​@@johnpjones182

he gets paid by the trump campaign, what did you expect?

Destiny sounds like my teenage niece who thinks she knows everything arguing with her daddy...... He even still lives in mommys basement😂 ... He "debates", (not to arrive at the truth ), but to at least pose as having not lost..... by derailing it.......not unlike like the insufferable, overrated bad faith besserwisser- "debaters" Vaush, Hasan, Pakman or Seder..

​​@@xycap8351mega cope and cringe...😬 If you truly believe what you said why don't you source some evidence for your claims bro ? Nobody is falling for this weird characterization of someone without seeing actual laid out examples of such conduct.

Now can you actually give some examples of "unsubstantiated statements" he apparently made?

That old dude in the bottom left corner is just as bad. He says over and over and over that the ONLY REASON he is voting is to make sure that Trump does not get back in the White House. Yet, Trump did not do anything that harmed the liberals whatsoever in his 4 years. Smh. Talk about delusion.

Destiny is triggering people just by existing. Lmao. There is no such thing as palestine, only Israel. Day 1: Palestinians dancing, singing, celebrating and cheering for hamas for what they called "VICTORY". Day 2 onwards: Crying like babies and seeking for help, lmao. Israel has a right to exist and has a right to defend itself. Hamas should never have started something they couldn’t finish 🇮🇱. There wouldn't be any borders or fences if gaza wasn't a terror base, and that's a fact, whether you like it or not. P.S. Mohaumad had a child lover. Justice for Aisha (she was 6).

@@James-8841 what does israel have to do with any of this? This is a video about replace joe biden. I hope your handlers don’t deposit funds into your account for this one

@@James-8841 Tiny hat detected. Your grip on America is slipping. Hollywood is a joke, young people aren't religious anymore and the banking system is relying on a dollar that is at the end of it's reign as the worlds reserve currency. You lot are done.

@James-8841 nah dude, destiny keeps going onto debates (the Peterson one is a prime example) absolutely jacked up on some sort of stimulant. It’s embarrassing.

Hes jacked up on adderall

Mr. Divorcelli

I don't hate him but he's establishment opposition in the form of a relaxed podcaster, the power players try to make him look like a normal dude, but he's on a heavy agenda, he ignored the unelectable approval rating and quickly aggravated Cenk on purpose, to jump away from the objective facts.

His name is Destiny, enough said.

Is the goal to beat Trump? Or is our goal to start building a 3rd party?

Why do you think he thinks of himself as serious?....Has he ever said that?...Honestly he seems to not take himself that seriously lol

Harris or Newsom would lose in landslides just short of Dukakkis. If Biden were to withdraw, a Clinton-[Sherrod] Brown ticket would have the best chance beating Trump.

Lies. Making you constantly fight against your own candidate doesn't make him stronger. Hillary mainly lost because these "I'm a leftie, but f*** Hillary" was being constantly shouted by people like Cenk. He's one of the reasons why Trump won. Do you think right wing media having 4 years in row constantly attacking Biden's age has been to his strength? Even those cheap fakes where he's just talking to parachuters? No. The whole point of everyone quickly dropping out in GOP primaries was because they didn't want to contest Trump's lead. They didn't want people to rally against him. Even Nikki Haley was against Trump but after dropping out she went and endorsed him. It's pretty f***ing clear that Cenk has no idea what he's talking about. Every moment he breathes he's making it more sure that Trump is the winner, constantly attacking Biden as if it was preposterous that he's the candidate. That is NOT a winning strategy.

Agreed. He was a little twat, but Cenk shut him down hard, especially at the end when he brought up Lyndon B. Johnson 🤣🤣🤣 Look at him through the rest of that. He was totally hanging his hat on that last straw-man argument thinking he had Cenk trapped somehow 🤣🤣🤣

Indeed

I like how that clown said they didn't need Progressives and was happy they were unpopular in the Democratic Party, yet expects these idiots to bend the knee. Sadly, Cenk let that shit slide, which to me is asinine.

He was gaslighting anybody not supporting Joe Biden.

I know when Cenk makes you look like a bad . You got problems. Destiny is basically just an establishment tool.